Government asks for $10M to study how to ask about sexual orientation

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  2 weeks ago  •  43 comments

By:   Timothy Nerozzi (Fox Business)

Government asks for $10M to study how to ask about sexual orientation
The U.S. Census Bureau says it needs at least $10 million in funding to craft, test, and implement new questions about citizen's orientation and sexual identity.

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The United States Census Bureau is requesting at least $10 million to fund research and development on how to ask citizens about their sexual orientation and identity.

The money, which would be spent over several years, would be used to test different wordings for the question, examine response patterns, and craft the most succinct questions for the American Community Survey.

The census and its questions are often used as guides or referenced by other government agencies when crafting their own questionnaires for employees or the public.

A major consideration in crafting new questions for the U.S. Census is that many citizens' information is reported via proxies. This includes parents, spouses, heads of household and more.

Proxies often fill out census information for everyone in their home, and how proxies describe the sexual identities of others in their house is another area of consideration.

The wording and details of the question could have cascading ramifications on how the government asks about sex and sexuality for years to come.

The House Committee on Oversight and Reform is currently discussing legislation that could require federal surveys to provide more nuance on sexual identity questions.

Population estimates released last month by the U.S. Census Bureau revealed that eight of the 10 largest cities in the U.S. lost population during the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

From the same "non-partisan" agency that no longer asks about citizenship and made mistakes that cost states like Texas additional representation.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2  Right Down the Center    2 weeks ago

I will tell them how to ask those questions and I will only charge them 5 million. 

Man

Woman

Something  else.

As for sexual orientation,  none of the governments business.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    2 weeks ago

I hear ya!  I'll do it for $1 Million and I'll have them back to when there was no question about Hispanic.

The only descriptive boxes I'd have would be:

Male or Female

Black or White

Citizen or non-Citizen

 
 
 
bccrane
Freshman Silent
2.1.1  bccrane  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    2 weeks ago

No that can be shortened even further, forget even the second one.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    2 weeks ago
As for sexual orientation,  none of the governments business.

Keep the government out of the bedroom.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2    2 weeks ago
Keep the government out of the bedroom.

Unless they supply the whips and chains

 
 
 
arkpdx
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2.2.2  arkpdx  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.1    one week ago

Cool

 
 
 
TTGA
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2.2.3  TTGA  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2    one week ago
As for sexual orientation,  none of the governments business.
Keep the government out of the bedroom.

Definitely; and keep sexual preferences in it.

 
 
 
Lucifer Morningstar
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2.2.4  Lucifer Morningstar  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2    one week ago

And my wallet

 
 
 
Gazoo
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3  Gazoo    2 weeks ago

This COULD be another one of those reasons the world is laughing about us.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Gazoo @3    2 weeks ago

You mean the the world doesn't hold us in the highest regard as Joe and his minions keep saying?  I guess an old senile mumbling president leading from behind and focusing on pronouns while causing and ignoring the countries problems is not revered as much as the democrats would tell you.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.2  pat wilson  replied to  Gazoo @3    2 weeks ago
the world is laughing about us

You know this due to your vast traveling ?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  pat wilson @3.2    2 weeks ago

Do you find this a legitimate use of taxpayer dollars?

If so, why?

 
 
 
Gazoo
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3.2.2  Gazoo  replied to  pat wilson @3.2    2 weeks ago

Leaving out a key part of a sentence is a dishonest way to quote something. That dishonesty speaks volumes and none of it’s good.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.2.3  pat wilson  replied to  Gazoo @3.2.2    2 weeks ago

My question stands.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.2.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  pat wilson @3.2.3    2 weeks ago

Perhaps Gazoo sits.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.1    2 weeks ago

"Do you find this a legitimate use of taxpayer dollars? If so, why?"

Interesting that you got absolutely zero answer.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Sophomore Silent
3.2.6  Gazoo  replied to  pat wilson @3.2.3    2 weeks ago

I suppose if it’s stuck deep enough in the mud of dishonesty it’ll stand. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4  Texan1211    2 weeks ago

Nice waste of taxpayer money.

Sheer stupidity.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @4    2 weeks ago

"Nice waste of taxpayer money.

Sheer stupidity."

Well, we are talking something from the leftist liberal Democrats in charge here. If somebody from the government shows up on my doorstep asking about something like that, I will just enough time to tell them it's none of their business and to get off my property before slamming the door shut in their faces. I'm really curious to see how long it will take our resident lefty libs to chime in and defend the horse manure Biden and his minions came up with on this 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1    2 weeks ago

All that money to determine something most people don't give a shit about.

Brilliant, just fucking brilliant.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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5  magicschoolbusdropout    2 weeks ago

The U.S. Census Bureau says it needs at least $10 million in funding to craft, test, and implement new questions about citizen's orientation and sexual identity.

That's just Fucked Up !

256

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6  Drinker of the Wry    2 weeks ago

$10M?

1. What sex were you assigned at birth on your original birth certificate?

Choice of answers: Male or Female.

2. Do you currently describe yourself as male, female or transgender?

Choice of answers: Male, Female, Transgender or None of these.

3. Which of the following best represents how you think of yourself?

Choice of answers: Gay or lesbian; Straight, that is not gay or lesbian; Bisexual; Something else; I don’t know what I want to be when I grow up.

4. After answering how you think of yourself (above), which would you rather be?

Choice of answers: Gay or lesbian; Straight, that is not gay or lesbian; Bisexual; Something else; I don’t know what I want to be when I grow up.

5. In the past 4 years who have you had sex with?
Choice of answers:  Straight Men only, Gay Men only, Transgender Men only, Straight Woman only, Lesbian Woman only, Transgender Woman only, Both Straight Men and Lesbian Woman, Both Gay Men and Straight Woman, Both Trans Men and Trans Woman, Other combinations, I have not had sex

6. People are different in their sexual attraction to other people. Which best describes your feelings? Are you:

Choice of answers: Only attracted to females, Mostly attracted to females?, Equally attracted to females and males?Mostly attracted to males?  Only attracted to males? Not sure

America needs these answers.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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6.1  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6    2 weeks ago
America needs these answers.

Kinda makes the Jan 6th Trials look like a mediocre need to know!

"THESE" Questions are more impotent.......... ummmm......... ooooops ......... I meant "More Important" (sorry bout that mix up) ! 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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6.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6    2 weeks ago

Last week my granddaughter asked her mother how many sexes there were? My daughter thought about it for a minute before answering and said "There only three. Male, female, and hermaphroditic!". After my daughter explained what hermaphroditic meant, my granddaughter looked thoughtful and said okay, I get it and walked away. It was all I could do to keep a straight face.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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6.3  afrayedknot  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6    2 weeks ago

“$10M?”

Chump change. For those thinking the expenditure is warranted and for those grousing about it. Just another in the seemingly endless list of points of departure.

Wasted money, wasted time…

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.3.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  afrayedknot @6.3    2 weeks ago
Chump change

Yep, about 85 seconds of federal spending.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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6.4  arkpdx  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6    one week ago
What sex were you assigned at birth on your original birth certificate?

You are not assigned a sex at birth. You are either born male or female. The do not decide that at birth. You are one or the other. Period. You will also die as one or the other as what you are born as. No amount of surgery can change that fact. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7  Texan1211    2 weeks ago

Too many woke idiots with access to taxpayer money.

 
 
 
Lucifer Morningstar
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8  Lucifer Morningstar    2 weeks ago

I'm sure Bill Maher would include this in his new laundry list of really fucking stupid things that prove the republic is on its last legs.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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9  Tacos!    one week ago

I don't see the value in this. It's not like we've got massive government programs aimed at LGBTQ people, so I'm not sure why we even need to count them. It also won't affect representation. If you want to know how many gay people there are in the country, ask Gallup.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
9.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Tacos! @9    one week ago

“I'm not sure why we even need to count them…”

Really? At what point does a demographic merit consideration? This is a much larger segment of the population than you imagine. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
9.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  afrayedknot @9.1    one week ago
At what point does a demographic merit consideration?

What sort of consideration?  Why not save the money and let everyone self-identify with whatever labels they prefer?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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9.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  afrayedknot @9.1    one week ago

At what point does a demographic merit consideration?

Maybe after they hit 1 million in the census they should get their own state.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
9.1.3  afrayedknot  replied to  Right Down the Center @9.1.2    one week ago

“Maybe after they hit 1 million in the census they should get their own state.”

Specious, even if offered sarcastically.

In what state do you and yours reside for certainly there are more than a million who share such idiocy.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Freshman Guide
9.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  afrayedknot @9.1.3    one week ago

Take a deep breath, it will be ok.I would still love to know what sort of consideration you are talking about

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
9.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  afrayedknot @9.1    one week ago
At what point does a demographic merit consideration?

Consideration ≠ Counting. You tell me why the federal government needs to count them and I'll listen. 

This is a much larger segment of the population than you imagine. 

First, you have no fucking clue what I imagine. And B, it's irrelevant anyway.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
10  Drinker of the Wry    one week ago
At what point does a demographic merit consideration?

What sort of consideration?  Why not save the money and let everyone self-identify with whatever labels they prefer?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
10.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10    one week ago

“Why not save the money and let everyone self-identify with whatever labels they prefer?”

If only individuals could do so without being chastised, discriminated against, and being subject to politically motivated denigration. 

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Quiet
10.1.1  charger 383  replied to  afrayedknot @10.1    one week ago

Individual Census information is confidential and census workers have to swear an oath on that and are subject to prosecution and large fines for divulging individual information 

 
 
 
Lucifer Morningstar
Professor Guide
11  Lucifer Morningstar    one week ago

By the way if any of you think that women have penises, then nothing you say after that would be of any importance  to me.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Lucifer Morningstar @11    one week ago

I think some of them have a collection of balls they have collected over the years. Do they count?

 
 
 
Lucifer Morningstar
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11.1.1  Lucifer Morningstar  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1    one week ago

Only if they’re not busted

 
 

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