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Clarence Thomas suggests Covid vaccines are developed using cells of 'aborted children'
Cells obtained from elective abortions decades ago were used in testing during the Covid vaccine development process, a practice that is common in vaccine testing.
"They object on religious grounds to all available COVID-19 vaccines because they were developed using cell lines derived from aborted children," Justice Clarence Thomas said of the petitioners. | Drew Angerer/Getty Images
Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas in a dissenting opinion Thursday suggested that Covid-19 vaccines were developed using the cells of "aborted children."
The conservative justice's statement came in a dissenting opinion on a case in which the Supreme Court declined to hear a religious liberty challenge to New York's Covid-19 vaccine mandate from 16 health care workers. The state requires that all health care workers show proof of vaccination.
"They object on religious grounds to all available COVID-19 vaccines because they were developed using cell lines derived from aborted children," Thomas said of the petitioners.
None of the Covid-19 vaccines in the United States contain the cells of aborted fetuses. Cells obtained from elective abortions decades ago were used in testing during the Covid vaccine development process, a practice that is common in vaccine testing — including for the rubella and chickenpox vaccinations.
A group of doctors, nurses and other health care workers brought the case, suing the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of New York in an objection to the state's vaccine mandate on religious grounds. The district court issued a preliminary injunction, but the Court of Appeals reversed it and the Supreme Court ultimately declined to hear the challenge on Thursday.
The Court instead left in place the lower court ruling rejecting petitioners' claim that New York's mandate violates the First Amendment right against religious discrimination. All 16 health care workers were either fired, resigned, lost hospital admitting privileges or decided to receive the vaccine.
Conservative Justices Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch joined Thomas in his dissenting opinion. And some Thomas defenders noted that he was simply reciting the allegations made by those refusing to get the vaccine.
Thomas argues in the opinion that the court should have granted a petition to open for full deliberation the question of whether a mandate like New York's can ever be neutral or generally applicable if it doesn't exempt religious conduct but does permit secular conduct — such as medical exemptions.
The state allows a narrow medical exemption for those who are highly allergic to the Covid-19 vaccine.
"Because I would address this issue now in the ordinary course, before the next crisis forces us again to decide complex legal issues in an emergency posture, I respectfully dissent," Thomas writes.
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Fine, I am saying straight up Thomas has dementia!
He is no longer competent to preside as a Justice...
This is disingenuous, even for the left wing media. I guess they don't think enough of their readers that they will either read the case or even understand basic English.
He cited the argument made by a party, which is what Justices do. That's it.
This gets even funnier.
Politico then tweets out a statement confirming what the healthcare workers Thomas cited claimed, that vaccines were tested on cells obtained from abortions.
Thank you for posting this. It really exposes how dishonest the media reporting is.
No. He didn't. He explained that that was what someone else thought. It happens to be technically true, but more on that below.
Also,
That's also not what he said. He didn't say the vaccines contain the cells of aborted fetuses. It's not even what the people he was referencing said (although there are some dummies who think this).
This is an important discussion and not one that should be argued with straw men. This objection needs to be debunked or called out on truthful terms. What he said was,
And that is 100% true. Drugs are tested on human cells that are thousands of generations removed from the original aborted tissue. These aren't the actual cells from those abortions. They are cell lines derived from them. Just as was said.
Nevertheless, some people claim a religious objection on this basis. However, even the Catholic church has said people should get vaccinated. Perhaps one reason is that the many religious hospitals all around the world have been dispensing drugs and vaccines tested on these cells for decades.
Many - if not most - medicines are tested using these cell lines to see how the drugs would interact with human cells before actually testing them on living people. That's why the objection is so absurd. Tylenol was tested this way. So was Advil, Tums, Pepto Bismol, Sudafed, Preparation H, pretty much every antihistamine you could name, etc. The list is LOOOOOOONG. If you're willing to take any of these drugs, you should be willing to get a Covid vaccine.
A damned fine post, Tacos. Also, according to the article I read yesterday, the Rubella vaccine (developed the same way) is required for healthcare workers in NY without exception for religious reasons and no one sued there.
So what if they were tested on abortion waste?
That's what I say. And who cares anyway? Besides, perhaps Justice Thomas should stick to law and not medicine!
You didn’t understand the story either
So Justice Thomas did not say the Covid vaccine was developed from fetal cells?
We know the answer about comprehension.
No, he didn’t. At least not for this story. He summarized someone else’s position.
Thanks for clarifying. Of course, such a position is inaccurate and based on ignorance. I've heard some make that claim before.
Steven----err I mean Clarence can pontificate all he wants. Doesn't matter. He still can't attend the Klan rally with his wife.
Lol.. DO you know what pontificate means? It's not summarizing what someone else argued...
The optimist in me says the glass is half full - maybe Thomas isn't going to take this conspiracy theory to its obvious conclusion and ban Covid vaccines because unborn life is sacred.
The pessimist in me says the glass is half empty - of course that is where Thomas is going to go with this.
But the historian in me knows that Thomas would just want to know whose pubic was floating in the water.
... and yet Ketanji Brown Jackson was trashed from the get-go, and as of today in a seed by a NT member still is, as a "radical leftist" before she has even made one ruling. The hypocrisy of whining over Thomas's treatment is laughable.
First, kudos for using a yet another seed attacking Thomas based upon a laughably dishonest mischaracterization of his work to attack people for defending him.
But sure. The woman who claims to not know what a woman was criticized for her ideology, and that makes it okay for the left to engage in racist attacks against Justice Thomas and for the MSM to lie about his rulings.
You should really be posting over at FOX with the other lemmings who have been trained to spout the same comment ad infinitum and always leaving out the rest of the response to Martha Jackson's attempt at 'gotcha'!
Lol...And who trained you? The deflection to Justice Jackson after yet another dishonest attack on Thomas blew up in your face is textbook partisanship. Did you graduate from the Wile E Coyote school for Democratic apologists?
Vampirella and assorted Vixens.
Oh and if I ever make a racist attack, point it out and I will permanently and willfully leave this site.
Just to get this straight:
Thomas said "They object on religious grounds to all available COVID-19 vaccines because they were developed using cell lines derived from aborted children,"
The next paragraph confirms what Thomas said is true " Cells obtained from elective abortions decades ago were used in testing during the Covid vaccine development process"
The same people that were all for confirming a Supreme Court Justice that doesn't know what a woman is are getting their panties in a bunch over this.