Trump's defense secretary denies there were orders to have 10K troops ready to deploy on January 6 - CNNPolitics

  

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Trump's defense secretary denies there were orders to have 10K troops ready to deploy on January 6 - CNNPolitics
Former acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller told the House select committee investigating the Capitol Hill insurrection that former President Donald Trump never gave him a formal order to have 10,000 troops ready to be deployed to the Capitol on January 6, 2021, according to new video of Miller's deposition released by the committee.

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(CNN)Former acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller told the House select committee investigating the Capitol Hill insurrection that former President Donald Trump never gave him a formal order to have 10,000 troops ready to be deployed to the Capitol on January 6, 2021, according to new video of Miller's deposition released by the committee.

"I was never given any direction or order or knew of any plans of that nature," Miller said in the video. Miller later said in the video definitively, "There was no direct, there was no order from the President." "We obviously had plans for activating more folks, but that was not anything more than contingency planning," Miller added. "There was no official message traffic or anything of that nature." Trump has previously said that he requested National Guard troops be ready for January 6. He released a statement on June 9 that he "suggested & offered" up to 20,000 National Guard troops be deployed to Washington, DC, ahead of January 6 claiming it was because he felt "that the crowd was going to be very large." Read More The committee released Miller's testimony after already revealing that Trump did not make calls to military personnel or law enforcement to intervene as the Capitol attack was unfolding. General Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the committee that he never received a call from Trump as the attack as unfolding. Milley testified to the committee that he spoke to former Vice President Mike Pence "two or three" times on January 6. Keith Kellogg, former national security adviser to Pence, also told the committee that Trump never asked for a law enforcement response.


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JBB
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1  seeder  JBB    2 months ago

Trump Lied - People Died

 
 
 
JBB
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2  seeder  JBB    2 months ago

original

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 months ago
President Donald Trump never gave him a formal order to have 10,000 troops ready to be deployed to the Capitol on January 6, 2021

According to DOD there were no requests for anything over the 350 Guardsmen that were already in the city.  It wasn't until 6 PM that authorization for additional Guardsmen to move.

The DOD is supporting the Justice Department, which is the lead federal agency in this situation. They relied on estimates of the Metropolitan Police and Capitol Hill Police. Those organizations, which had experience with pro-Trump groups in November and December, believed the request they made for personnel was adequate.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    2 months ago

Key word, formal?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1    2 months ago

That's how they phrased it.

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.2  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    2 months ago

Well, here you are again blathering misinformation about the NG on Jan. 6th. 

That's an interesting link you provided Jeremy. Did you review it before you posted your bullshit about 'NG from surrounding states' already in DC?

Did you notice that YOUR link states that 'surrounding states' NG weren't authorized until 6PM on the 6th? 

It isn't MY problem that you didn't know that fact and still refuse to admit that your claim was FALSE. 

Note that YOUR link cites a 40 member 'Quick Reaction Force'. NO ONE has explained WHY SecArmy McCarthy restricted Gen. Walker's ability to deploy that force except as a 'last resort', nor has it been explained why that QRF wasn't deployed 'quickly' from Andrews. 

Oh, and while the initial DOD press release claimed there were 340 DCNG deployed for traffic control/metro stations, the number was actually 114. Gen. Walker testified that those 114 had ' force protection, helmets, shin guards, and 
body protection' gear in their vehicles. Yet they were ordered to withdraw to the armory to 'regroup' and gear up. The initial DCNG deployment to the Capitol was 154. 

Again, those FACTS are included in last years Joint Senate Committee report. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @4.2    2 months ago
Well, here you are again blathering misinformation about the NG on Jan. 6th. 

Then you should take that up with the National Guard.  

Oh, and while the initial DOD press release claimed there were 340 DCNG deployed for traffic control/metro stations, the number was actually 114.

So you are disputing the National Guard numbers.  Again, something you should take up with the National Guard.  

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.1    2 months ago

No, we dispute what you and Trump told us...

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.2.3  Ronin2  replied to  Dulay @4.2    2 months ago

Haven't learned anything? Trump offered; and Pelosi, Schumer, and Bowser- who are in charge of Capitol security never accepted.

Oh, and the head of Capitol Security requested 6 times for extra security; and was turned down.

The former chief of U.S. Capitol Police says security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed his early requests to call in the National Guard ahead of a demonstration in support of President Trump that turned into a deadly attack on Congress.

Former chief Steven Sund --who resigned his post last week after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called for him to step down -- made the assertions in an interview with The Washington Post published Sunday.

Sund contradicts claims made by officials after Wednesday's assault on Capitol Hill. Sund's superiors said previously that the National Guard and other additional security support could have been provided, but no one at the Capitol requested it.

Sund told the Post that House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving was concerned with the "optics" of declaring an emergency ahead of the protests and rejected a National Guard presence. He says Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger recommended that he informally request the Guard to be ready in case it was needed to maintain security.

Like Sund, Irving and Stenger have also since resigned their posts.

The former chief of U.S. Capitol Police says security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed his early requests to call in the National Guard ahead of a demonstration in support of President Trump that turned into a deadly attack on Congress.

Former chief Steven Sund --who resigned his post last week after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called for him to step down -- made the assertions in an interview with The Washington Post published Sunday.

Sund contradicts claims made by officials after Wednesday's assault on Capitol Hill. Sund's superiors said previously that the National Guard and other additional security support could have been provided, but no one at the Capitol requested it.

Sund told the Post that House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving was concerned with the "optics" of declaring an emergency ahead of the protests and rejected a National Guard presence. He says Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger recommended that he informally request the Guard to be ready in case it was needed to maintain security.

Like Sund, Irving and Stenger have also since resigned their posts.

Funny how the top 3 beneath Pelosi, Schumer, and Bowser have been forced to resign. But the 3 most culpable in the failure are still in power.

According to the timeline, a DOD official reached out to Capitol Police Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher four days before the attack on the U.S. Capitol to inquire about whether Capitol Police anticipated they would request National Guard troops be deployed to prepare for Jan. 6.

“Carol Corbin (DOD) texts USCP Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher, Protective Service Bureau, to determine whether USCP is considering a request for National Guard soldiers for January 6, 2021 event,” the timeline reads in an entry listed for Saturday, Jan. 2, 2021.

The next morning, the timeline indicates, “Gallagher replies to DOD via text that a request for National Guard support not forthcoming at this time after consultation with COP Sund.”

However, that initial rejection from Capitol Police came as they were beginning to change their assessment of the potential threats of violence.

Just hours after Gallagher’s rejection of DOD’s offer for troops, Capitol Police issued a new warning to its commanders and executives, as well as to the two congressionally appointed House and Senate Sergeants at Arms responsible for congressional security, the timeline shows.

Due to the tense political environment following the 2020 election, the threat of disruptive actions or violence cannot be ruled out,” stated the new assessment, chronicled in Capitol Police's Jan. 6 timeline. “Supporters of the current president see January 6, 2021 as the last opportunity to overturn the results of the presidential election. This sense of desperation and disappointment may lead to more of an incentive to become violent.

Within 24-hours of the new assessment’s circulation, then-chief of the Capitol Police Steve Sund changed course and began requesting permission to deploy National Guard troops from the House and Senate Sergeant at Arms – both of whom report to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democrat Leader Chuck Schumer, respectively.

“COP Sund asks Senate Sergeant at Arms (SSAA) Michael Stenger and House Sergeant at Arms (HSAA) Paul Irving for authority to have National Guard to assist with security for the January 6, 2021 event based on briefing with law enforcement partner and revised intelligence Assessment,” the timeline notes. “COP Sund's request is denied. SSAA and HSAA tell COP Sund to contact General Walker at DC National Guard to discuss the guard's ability to support a request if needed.”

As Sund’s requests were denied, the Trump administration continued working on getting then-President Trump to formally authorize the deployment of as many as 20,000 National Guard troops to the Capitol ahead of the Jan. 6 rally, according to Just The News , which conducted interviews with then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and his Chief of Staff Kash Patel.

The Capitol Police timeline shows what we have been saying for the last year — that DOD support via the National Guard was refused by the House and Senate sergeant at arms, who report to Pelosi,” said Patel. “Now we have it in their own writing, days before Jan. 6. And despite the FBI warning of potential for serious disturbance, no perimeter was established, no agents put on the street, and no fence put up.

Furthermore, as word began circulating around Washington of the Capitol Police’s changing stance on the need for National Guard troops on Jan. 6, Democratic Mayor for the District of Columbia, Muriel Bowser, wrote a letter to Miller and other Departments of Defense and Justice officials asking that National Guard troops not be deployed unless the local Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) approved.

So where are the calls for Pelosi, Schumer, and Bowser to answer for their rolls in the security breakdown that occurred on Jan 6th?

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.4  bugsy  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.3    2 months ago

And you will hear again, ad nausea, from one of our readers, that Pelosi is not responsible for Capitol security, even though it has been pointed out repeatedly that she is.

Funny how that poster has never been able to prove otherwise.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @4.2.2    2 months ago

"No, we dispute what you and Trump told us..."

and any of his supporters/enablers

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @4.2    2 months ago
"Well, here you are again blathering misinformation about the NG on Jan. 6th." 

That's all some have on top of projection, deflection, and denial, plus making it up as they go along.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @4.2.2    2 months ago

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Dulay
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4.2.8  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.1    2 months ago
Then you should take that up with the National Guard.

So, you're denying any responsibility for YOUR OWN statement. Got ya. 

BTFW, the incorrect information was released by Trump's DOD, NOT the DCNG. 

So you are disputing the National Guard numbers.  Again, something you should take up with the National Guard. 

No, I am stating the FACTS, which YOU can't refute, and I have already documented here, over and over again. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.2.9  Dulay  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.3    2 months ago
Haven't learned anything?

Yes. One of the things that I have learned is that you have no fucking clue what you are talking about, yet you're absolutely positive about what it. 

Trump offered; and Pelosi, Schumer, and Bowser- who are in charge of Capitol security never accepted.

Utter bullshit. There is NO evidence that Trump had ANY involvement whatsofuckingever in the planning or implementation of Capitol security on Jan. 6th except for delegating his authority.

Secondly, the fact that you cited Schumer is hilarious and clearly illustrates just how clueless you are on the subject. 

The Capitol was under attack, NOT Washington DC. Bowser is the Mayor of DC and has NO responsibility for security of a FEDERAL building. Get educated. 

Oh, and the head of Capitol Security requested 6 times for extra security; and was turned down.

There is so much bullshit in the content of that link it's unworthy of my time to rebute. Go READ the Senate report instead of bullshit written by sources like Sinclair. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.2.10  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @4.2.4    2 months ago
And you will hear again, ad nausea, from one of our readers, that Pelosi is not responsible for Capitol security, even though it has been pointed out repeatedly that she is. Funny how that poster has never been able to prove otherwise.

IMHO, it's cowardly to address other members through others. But hey, you be you bugsy. 

Pelosi is NOT responsible for Capitol security. You can repeat that lie ad nauseam, but it will NEVER be true. 

The members of the Capitol Police Board and the USCP hold that responsibility. 

From that Joint Senate bipartisan report which I have linked here multiple times:

This report addresses the security, planning, and response failures of the entities directly responsible for Capitol security—USCP and the Capitol Police Board, which is comprised of the House and Senate Sergeants at Arms and the Architect of the Capitol as voting members, and the USCP Chief as a non-voting member

BTFW, the fact that you and yours ALWAYS give Mitch McConnel a pass [you know, the guy who was actually in charge of the Senate at the time], even though the Senate floor WAS breached but the House floor was NOT. Mitch and Nancy have the SAME limited participation, they nominate their respective SAA. That's IT. No more, NADA.

This continued dissemination of bullshit isn't a good look for you bugsy. 

 
 
 
JBB
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4.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    2 months ago

Does that explain why Trump lied about numbers?

NO!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Another Donald Trump talking point shot to hell. 

And they all will be because they were all lies. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6  JohnRussell    2 months ago

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Greg Jones
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7  Greg Jones    2 months ago

Trump was not responsible for securing the Capitol

 
 
 
JBB
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7.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @7    2 months ago

Well then why do you think he lied about all of this? 

 
 

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