The China Virus

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  one month ago  •  138 comments

The China Virus
One thing that’s certain: It is high time we called this the China virus and exerted whatever influence we have to get this dangerous country to be more responsible when it comes to global health. In the meantime, we must close our borders to the originators of SARS-CoV-2 — if it isn’t already too late....

Link to Quote: CDC's test requirement for travel from China isn't enough (nypost.com)

It may be happening again. China is experiencing a massive outbreak of covid, and it is once again shrouded in secrecy. China never allowed the western vaccines into their country and depended upon a strategy of preventing infection. Thus, most of its population has neither been vaccinated or infected and highly vulnerable. Our leader, who once called a travel ban on China xenophobic, is now putting into place a travel ban. Biden's travel ban is idiotic since it doesn't go into effect until January 5th. No word yet from the CDC, so we only have the Trump vaccine to protect us.

How bad is the new strain? Nobody really knows. China evidently wants no part in contributing to the international medical community. It has kept everything about covid secret along with it's many allies in the west and has rejected vaccines that could have done for China what they did for the US. They need to be condemned by all the nations who have lost citizens to this virus which has always had so many questions bound to it. As this terrible year comes to an end, it ends with the risk of a new coronavirus variant at our doorstep.



The Week:

Holiday Travel nightmare: The recent storm that traversed the country has exposed weaknesses in the post pandemic airline industry.  Many airline employees have decided to quit the industry and not return following the pandemic. Another problem is retiring pilots. According to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), commercial pilots have to retire at age 65. Our AOL Transportation Secretary is fine with that policy is invested in diversity pilot training. We recall when he told us that "I think it's gonna get better by the holidays." The president is vacationing in the Virgin Islands.


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Violence at Disneyworld: "According to WDW News Today, fights have broken out at  the Florida resort  in multiple places over the past year and a half including Fantasyland in Magic Kingdom, Toy Story Land in Hollywood Studios, Living With The Land in EPCOT, and on the ferryboats to and from the Magic Kingdom."

https://www.aol.com/news/disney-issues-behavior-warning-parkgoers-094630004.html



The rise of the “inadmissibles”: "
President  Joe Biden’s  open borders plan has led to six times the “normal” number of apprehensions, but it is the rush of “inadmissibles” that is causing a  new crisis at Mexico-U.S. crossing stations, according to a report. Those without proper documentation are surging, according to  immigration  expert Steven Kopits of Princeton Policy Advisors. “Inadmissibles, those presenting themselves at official crossing points without appropriate documentation, continues to run hot. Calendar year inadmissibles are likely to come in at 240,000, which is an astounding number,” he said in a  new report  shared with Secrets."

Border apprehensions up six times, but ‘inadmissibles’ the new crisis (msn.com)


The left's dark money: "A dark money group tied to  Swiss billionaire Hansjörg Wyss poured tens of millions of dollars into organizations leading major left-wing campaigns, according to recently released tax filings. Fund for a Better Future (FBF), which has received a majority of its funding from two nonprofit foundations overseen by Wyss in recent years, pushed large sums of cash last year to groups dedicated to overhauling the Supreme Court, supporting President Biden's "Build Back Better" initiative, addressing alleged voter suppression and advocating for  aggressive climate change policies ."


Dark money group linked to foreign billionaire infused millions of dollars to major Dem, left-wing causes | Fox News


Putin unleashes missiles: "Earlier this morning, air raid sirens rang out across Ukraine as Russia's forces unleashed around 120 missiles in a savage barrage which targeted the capital  Kyiv and several other major cities. Distraught civilians were pictured consoling one another amid the debris following the attacks which constituted one of Russia's largest aerial bombardments of Ukrainian civilian centres of the war so far."

Putin rains down 120 missiles on Ukraine | Daily Mail Online


McCarthy still short: In the House, Majority Leader  Kevin McCarthy  (R-Calif.) is still short of the votes needed to secure the Speaker’s gavel next month as a handful of conservative firebrands withhold their support.

Divided GOP enters 2023 attacking itself | The Hill

 

What Have We Learned:

The incident at Disneyworld has left us all asking what has happened to civilized society? We as Americans are among the most generous and decent people in the world. So why are we seeing fist fights at airports and at a sacred place for a once in a lifetime family experience? Could it be that we have failed to make all our people conform to acceptable standards of behavior? I say the answer lies right there.  Before we include we need to educate!

Another issue that has made the news is the common matter of politicians lying. Lying only seems to make the news when it involves a Republican. The leftist media's latest outrage is a Republican elected to represent New York's 3rd Congressional District in the recent midterm elections. His name is George Soros and far left publications like "The Raw Story", The Huffington Post, MSN News and Rolling Stone have gone after him with a vengeance. The more benign left-wing msm is after him as well. The latest is that there is also a Federal investigation over his finances. Why all the hysteria?  It seems that George Santos is a habitual liar of the Joe Biden variety. I had never even seen or heard this individual until Wednesday evening when Tulsi Gabbard once again filled in for Tucker Carlson and had Santos as a guest on "Tucker Carlson Tonight." For the Fox viewing audience, Gabbard completely dissected Santos. As we all know, Gabbard has a very laid back personality. Nonetheless, she was able to ask him direct questions that he had a hard time answering and in the end Gabbard helped the audience draw the inevitable conclusion. This man was elected via a stack of lies by what seems to be an easily manipulated voting public. They are very vulnerable to the cheapest type of propaganda which has been perfected by our dishonest media. (I submit the interview for anyone who is interested):




The pathetic Santos is now in select company along with the likes of legendary liars Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton and Liz Warren.


Cartoon of the Week:

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Honorable Mention:

The unknown man who saved lives in Buffalo NY.


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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

"After China abandoned its “zero Covid” policy, a picture is emerging of the virus spreading like wildfire. Even as official figures from the central government remain low, regional numbers point to explosive outbreaks and overstretched health care systems."

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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    one month ago

800

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one month ago

Don't forget to call it conspiracy theory and Russian disinformation!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one month ago

Good example of trolling.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2    one month ago

More like a visual comment.  

I can do it all , unlike some people here who have one note. 

Do I have to explain to you what the "I see commies everywhere " meme means in the context of right wing obsession with "the Chinese Communist Party" ? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2    one month ago

Funny how it sometimes comes from the very ones who complain about "trolling!"

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
2.2.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    one month ago
"Do I have to explain to you what the "I see commies everywhere " meme means in the context of right wing obsession with "the Chinese Communist Party" "

What obsession? China is not acting in best interests of its citizens, or ours, or the rest of the world in fact.

And somehow, that seems to be OK with you

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.3    one month ago

I am for any reasonable examination of China's flaws.

Constantly talking about "The Chinese Communist Party" when China is brought up (which is what many right wingers do) is not reasonable (it is an obsession).

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.3    one month ago

They are ok with China. Russia is the enemy!  Do you know why?  Hillary said so!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
2.2.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    one month ago

If you read our new National Security Strategy, you’ll see that Joe Biden has an obsession with China as well.

The People's Republic of China harbors the intention and, increasingly, the capacity to reshape the international order in favor of one that tilts the global playing field to its benefit,
 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
2.2.7  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.4    one month ago

TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!

You lecturing anybody on obsession is hilarious!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
2.2.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.4    one month ago
Constantly talking about "The Chinese Communist Party" when China is brought up (which is what many right wingers do) is not reasonable (it is an obsession).

”While we have profound differences with the Chinese Communist Party and the Chinese Government, those differences are between governments and systems – not between our people.”

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2.3  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one month ago

Will remind you of that when the mutated Covid virus that is that is ravaging China right now makes it to the US.

Democrats and the media blamed Trump for Covid reaching our shores. See how fast they are to put the blame on Brandon the Human Fuck Up Machine. I don't care if he requires testing for every last person travelling to the US that originates in China. His open southern border policy will still let them in the US.

2 years in and no mandatory Covid testing or vaccinations for illegal immigrants coming across our southern border. With Brandon wanting to end Title 42 just imagine the disease that will be imported to the US.

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
2.3.1  George  replied to  Ronin2 @2.3    one month ago
Democrats and the media blamed Trump for Covid reaching our shores.

Remember when trump put restrictions on travel from China and Biden called him a xenophobe? 

US to impose new restrictions on travelers from China amid COVID outbreaks

US to impose new restrictions on travelers from China amid COVID outbreaks | The Hill

I guess this make Biden a straight up racist like we all knew he was.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2.3.2  Ronin2  replied to  George @2.3.1    one month ago
I guess this make Biden a straight up racist like we all knew he was.

Democrats can't be racists- no matter how many times they prove they are. That D behind their name gives them clearance to say and do whatever they want.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
2.4  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one month ago

Unless you condemn China's deceit and treachery, by default you support it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @2.4    one month ago

Or like the Bidens you support it because you made millions from them.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

"A report from California’s Governor Gavin Newsom's office revealed that enough fentanyl poured in over the California border to kill every man, woman and child in North America -- twice."

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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    one month ago

  Could it be that we have failed to make all our people conform to acceptable standards of behavior? 

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Republican star MTG with white supremacist Nick Fuentes. Why is this woman smiling? 

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Conspiracy nut at MAGA rally. 

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Montana Amburn, 27, was arrested after allegedly attacking the 33-year-old black victim with a knife at Mickey’s Pub in North Texas on Wednesday.

Witnesses who were in the bar told police that Amburn made several racist comments about ‘White Power’ before pulling out a knife that resembled a switchblade. Management then escorted him out of the bar and he proceeded to fight with staff on his way out, according to   CBS .

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    one month ago

No John, pointing at crack pots on the other side only works with immature youngsters. You know, the ones that democrats signed up to vote in the last two elections. Intelligent people can easily see that you have no defense for any of my points.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5  JohnRussell    one month ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5    one month ago

No John, that happens to be what we'll call an inconvenient truth. You don't like seeing it?

It was a major news story John. That's supposed to be Disneyworld.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    one month ago

Oh please. 

Major news story?  A fist fight? lol. 

When are you going to post pictures of white people fighting or does someone have to do that for you?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    one month ago

Why would I have to show a white fist fight every time a black fist fight makes the news?

Can't you look beyond race and focus on why we are seeing fights in front of children at such a family setting as Dinsneyworld?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    one month ago

By the way, as part of what is supposedly "the news of the week", you posted a story from almost a year ago. 

Drunken, naked brawl breaks out at Disney World in wild scene

February 15, 2022 1:55pm 
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.3    one month ago

Thanks for that correction. I can depend on at least two people here to scan the articles for errors. 

It used to be three.

Allow me to make a correction.

PS

Thanks for the large print.  Of course, no answer to any of the points.

Have a good one.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Sophomore Quiet
5.1.5  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    one month ago

“…every time a black fist fight makes the news?”

While you constantly disparage ‘the news’? It’s so, so obvious…pick and choose…it’s all but poison. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @5.1.5    one month ago

Evidently, you have no answer for the violence in a place like Disneyworld.

Let us know when you come up with something.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Sophomore Quiet
5.1.7  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.6    one month ago

“Evidently, you have no answer for the violence in a place like Disneyworld.”

And evidently, you constantly focus on the anecdotal…easy, peasy, and rather sleazy, vic…

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @5.1.7    one month ago

It's the last place we should be seeing that!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @5    one month ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2    one month ago

Please tell us what that means?

It's clearly not an answer to anything.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

"Dereliction of duty? Buttigieg warned before holidays by own party of looming airlines crisis."

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

"Biden signs $1.7 trillion omnibus on vacation after feds fly the bill to St. Croix"

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Yup, waste on top of waste.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7.1  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    one month ago

Dumbass goes on vacation and doesn't have the brains to sign the bill before he leaves; or to remember to take it with him. Is 4500 plus pages that easy to overlook? 

So they waste tax payer money to fly the bill out directly to him.

If this was Trump the Democrats and media would be howling for a mandatory cognitive test; screaming he was unfit to serve; and demanding his removal.

With Brandon the Human Fuck Up Machine it is "Look what he did now! That is hilarious! Joe is really being Joe these days. What a boob, what a maroon."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @7.1    one month ago

All of it happening while people are stranded at airports over the holidays.

I know he is a dumb son of a bitch, but when it comes to Americans he has absolutely no empathy.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @7.1    one month ago
If this was Trump the Democrats and media would be howling for a mandatory cognitive test; screaming he was unfit to serve; and demanding his removal.

Funny how you do not see the irony here.  

I would save the dramatic condemnation of Biden for significant events such as Afghanistan.  Going all a-flitter over chickenshit (flying a bill to sign) makes it look as though your criticism is purely partisan.   To wit, one would expect anything Biden does will be significantly wrong in your eyes;  every mistake or sub-optimal move will be taken as a big emotional deal.

As for Trump, it is silly to make a big deal of former PotUS Trump cheating at Golf but proper to criticize him for his unconstitutional, dishonest actions during his Big Lie campaign.

Focus on what matters and makes a significant difference to the nation.

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
7.1.3  George  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.2    one month ago
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but unlike you i don't feel the need to tell others what to think or comment on so feel free to drone on and one about the BIG LIE campaign. [deleted]

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.2    one month ago
As for Trump, it is silly to make a big deal of former PotUS Trump cheating at Golf but proper to criticize him for his unconstitutional, dishonest actions during his Big Lie campaign.  Focus on what matters and makes a significant difference to the nation.

Using your own logic: Trump can hardly be criticized for his policies as President, IE..a thriving economy, a reasonably secure border, fair trade deals, Judges who followed the Constitution, America as an energy producer and a vaccine developed in record breaking speed. Criticizing him for being a bad loser is partisan and petty.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
7.1.5  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.2    one month ago

" Focus on what matters and makes a significant difference to the nation".

Why don't the Dems do that?

All they seem to be interested in is...

keeping the border open...

prosecuting Trump...

transitioning minor children...

kowtowing to China...

and enriching the Biden family.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.4    one month ago
Using your own logic: Trump can hardly be criticized for his policies as President

Criticism of Trump's policies is certainly legitimate.   The Ds will have legitimate criticism since they clearly disagree with many of the core GoP policies and Trump policies were core GoP policies.

Criticizing him for being a bad loser is partisan and petty.

If all Trump did in his Big Lie campaign was to simply sulk as a poor loser then it would be petty to criticize him for that.   But surely you know that Trump's Big Lie campaign was SUBSTANTIALLY more than merely being a poor loser.

You do recognize Trump's substantial wrong-doing, right?   Wrongdoing well worthy of criticism (and more)?

Do you recognize that it was wrong  for Trump to try to overturn the results of the election using the authority of his office and against the Constitution?  To:

  • claim that he won the election but was cheated due to fraud in the US electoral system?
  • agitate his supporters into falsely thinking their votes were disenfranchised?
  • try to get officials (e.g.  Raffensperger) to 'find votes' so that he could win states he lost (e.g. Georgia)?
  • try to get state legislators to override the votes in their states (e.g. Michigan)?
  • try to get the Speaker of the AZ House (Bowers) to authorize fake electors?
  • try to suborn an unconstitutional act from his own V.P. — to get Pence to table counts of select states he lost to try to win through all other states?
  • encourage his supporters to fight against the 'fraud' and to protest the count (after months of working them up with lies of a fraudulent election)?
  • tweet that Pence had let them down in the middle of the insurrection?
  • refuse to take action to stop the insurrection for 3 hours?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1.5    one month ago
Why don't the Dems do that?

Nothing but witless projection.   Good grief.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  George @7.1.3    one month ago

Get a grip 'George'.

... let others comment on whatever they want however they want.

Clearly I have the right to comment as well and my comments do not prevent others from commenting.   So muster a clue as to what you are talking about. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.7    one month ago

All some have

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.6    one month ago
The Ds will have legitimate criticism since they clearly disagree with many of the core GoP policies and Trump policies were core GoP policies.

They can disagree ideologically, but any fair minded American would have to say those policies benefited the nation. Republicans disagree with Biden's policies ideologically as well, but they have a much better case because Biden did flood the country with millions of migrants, Biden did spend like a drunken sailor causing inflation and causing workers to sit home and refuse work, and Biden did hold up permits and did hinder the US oil industry. Those are all things that hurt the nation.


You do acknowledge Trump's substantial wrong-doing, right?   Wrongdoing well worthy of criticism (and more)?

No more so than that of the deep state that worked 24/7 to take him down. The day we hear from you on that is the day we talk about citizen Trump.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.10    one month ago
No more so than that of the deep state that worked 24/7 to take him down.

And yet again we see the irrational, counterproductive defense of Trump which serves to keep him relevant and thus able to inflict more damage on the GoP and hand the advantage to the Ds.

What drives GoP members to keep shooting themselves in the foot?? jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7.1.12  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.11    one month ago

It's all the deep state boogie man out to get him doncha know.....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.11    one month ago

You've become a one issue contributer and it's a dead issue.

You beat him and he can't win again. It's time to move on.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
7.1.14  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.11    one month ago

gain we see the irrational, counterproductive defense of Trum

So the whole "resistance" democrats publicly bragged about before it became politically unproductive to admit what they were doing was a lie?  Why do you think  democrats created the  "resistance" conspiracy, if they weren't resisting Trump? 

Maybe Republicans are capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. It's possible to say (1)  Democrats in government subverted Trump and (2) Trump should not be President.   

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.1.15  cjcold  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1.5    one month ago

You got 1 out of 4.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
7.1.16  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.7    one month ago

So you can't dispute any of my assertions?

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7.1.17  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.2    one month ago
Funny how you do not see the irony here. 

Funny that you don't either. We went through this the entire time Trump was in office. The fact that Dems and their media morons are giving Brandon a complete pass on this is sickening.

I would save the dramatic condemnation of Biden for significant events such as Afghanistan. Going all a-flitter over chickenshit (flying a bill to sign) makes it look as though your criticism is purely partisan.   To wit, one would expect anything Biden does will be significantly wrong in your eyes;  every mistake or sub-optimal move will be taken as a big emotional deal.

You would, how damn nice. Where were you again while Trump was in office and every last damn tweet, action, or inaction was held up to scrutiny? The fact that this dumbass cost US taxpayer to get the damn bill to him and somehow it doesn't matter tells me everything I need to know. By the way; I would have felt the same way had Trump been that stupid.

As for Trump, it is silly to make a big deal of former PotUS Trump cheating at Golf but proper to criticize him for his unconstitutional, dishonest actions during his Big Lie campaign.

You think it was just cheating at golf that Democrats and media made a big deal over? Really? jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

So you will have no problem when Brandon gets investigated for his family's ties to China, Ukraine, and Russia financial dealings and receiving pay for play. Especially when he lied repeatedly about having no contact with Hunter's employers. We can expect full support from you on all House investigations and potential impeachments over Afghanistan; the border (should be wonderful watching that buffoon Mayorkas getting grilled before a House panel); Fauci (the man who thinks he is science; but really is nothing more than a POS enriching himself parceling out gain of function research grants in foreign countries); and anything else that pops up- like when this new strain of Covid makes it from China to our shores. I won't be shocked when you attack Republicans over them.

Focus on what matters and makes a significant difference to the nation.

Take your own damn advise. I can be pissed that the Human Fuck Up Machine forgot a bloated 1.7 Trillion dollar Omnibus bill that is full of Democrat bullshit wish list pork. Not to mention another 45 billion to Ukraine. When inflation is still high, the economy is slowing, and the country is in a recession (the real definition- not the Democrats BS made up one). I can be pissed that he cost US taxpayers even more money to fly the POS bill out to him to sign. Then of course they had to fly the damn bill back to Washington after he signed it. Have to make sure it beats the 12/30 deadline to get registered. 

While I am at it. I can be pissed that Brandon is on vacation at St Croix on the US tax payer dime while people are still stuck at air ports across the US with another winter storm coming in this weekend. Brandon never met a crisis he couldn't ignore. With the same damn people that blasted Trump for vacationing too damn much staying silent while the Human Fuck Up Machine does the exact same thing!

President Joe Biden spent the weekend at his home in Delaware, where he met up with his wife, other family members and – if they followed usual practice – Willow the cat and Commander the dog .

It’s a familiar weekly ritual. As of this point in his presidency, Biden has spent more than a quarter of his time working from his home state of Delaware, either at his house in Wilmington or his Rehoboth Beach property.

Some 21 months into his term, Biden has made 55 visits to Delaware , totaling some or all of 174 days as of Sunday, according to a CNN analysis of presidential schedules and a tally kept by Mark Knoller, the longtime unofficial statistician of the White House press corps. In addition, Biden has made 19 visits, or all or part of 64 days, to the Camp David presidential retreat in rural Maryland.

He has now surpassed even the getaway time of former President Donald Trump, so often criticized by Democrats for his regular departures from the White House to stay at one of his personal homes. At this point in his tenure, Trump had spent about 135 days at either his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, or his home at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey. Trump also had spent 23 days at Camp David.

“President Biden is deeply proud of his roots and his family and it has been a staple of his time in public life to never lose touch with either,” White House deputy press secretary Andrew Bates said to CNN. “Presidents of the United States are constantly on the job, regardless of their location – whether they’re on a state visit overseas or just 100 miles from the White House for a short trip to Wilmington, DE. And as all Americans can agree, it’s important for leaders to avoid becoming ensconced in Washington, DC.”

I really hate fucking hypocrites. I don't begrudge Brandon his time out (unless there is a crisis- like thousands being trapped at airports). Any more than I did other presidents. But the way Democrats, the media, and their lemmings treat Republicans as compared to Democrats is beyond the pale. Bush Jr- the media hounded him everywhere. Doxxing his location so rampant protesters over the Afghan and Iraq Wars could hound him. Bitching constantly about the cost to tax payers to staff security. Obama takes office and the media complaints disappear. The protestors forget who is on office- and start harassing military bases instead (shockingly they get arrested and charged). Trump takes office and the media loses it's mind over travel and security costs again. Democrats launch investigations trying to prove that Trump resorts and hotels overcharged his security detail. Brandon takes office; and Democrats, the media, and their lemmings shut up again. 

See the pattern? 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
7.1.18  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.13    one month ago
You beat him and he can't win again. It's time to move on.

Which republicans have announced their candidacy for 2024?  It's not the democrats who are failing to "move on".

 
 
 
Snuffy
PhD Guide
7.1.19  Snuffy  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.11    one month ago
No more so than that of the deep state that worked 24/7 to take him down.
And yet again we see the irrational, counterproductive defense of Trump which serves to keep him relevant and thus able to inflict more damage on the GoP and hand the advantage to the Ds.

And this so perfectly illustrates why it's so difficult discussing things with you.  The Democrats were talking impeachment before Trump even took the oath of office.  Talking about that is NOT any defense of Trump himself.  You continue to refuse to see any daylight between what the establishment was doing and what Trump was doing and any talk that doesn't fit in with your world view you attack as a defense of Trump.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @7.1.18    one month ago

It's way to early for that.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.21  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.13    one month ago

I did not beat Trump; I am not a D.  

Trump definitely cannot win again.  But he still has a shot at the GoP nomination so when someone defends him I am going to point out how counterproductive that is.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.22  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.14    one month ago

Do you consider it rational for GoP members to defend/support Trump?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.23  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.21    one month ago
I am going to point out how counterproductive that is.

Then we are on the same side.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.24  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1.16    one month ago

I ignored your deflections.  You apparently assume that criticism of Trump only comes from a Democrat.   Bad assumption.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.25  TᵢG  replied to  Snuffy @7.1.19    one month ago

Maybe if you addressed what I write you would find it easier to have a discussion.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.26  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.23    one month ago

If that were true you would not be silent  (and certainly not vote up) when people defend Trump; you would instead point out that Trump is relevant only because he has tens of millions of GoP supporters.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.27  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.26    one month ago

You just keep reminding them that Trump can't win.

Trump is relevant in numerous ways, but not as a candidate.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.28  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.27    one month ago

Without supporters and defenders, Trump fades away.   Those who continue to make excuses for Trump keep him relevant and thus able to potentially take the GoP nomination or run as a spoiler.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.29  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.28    one month ago

That is a different argument that simply saying he can't win.

Donald Trump started something within the party. At some point, hopefully, he may come to understand that his role is to nurture that movement. He does have a place within the GOP.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.30  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.28    one month ago
Without supporters and defenders, Trump fades away.  

You want Republicans to denounce Trump?

That would be like a truck driver making $40 per hour + great benefits denouncing Jimmy Hoffa.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.31  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.29    one month ago

It is the same argument I have made repeatedly in this forum to those who support and/or defend Trump.

Do you recognize the need to diminish Trump’s support so that he can no longer damage the GoP by winning the nomination or running as a third party spoiler?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.32  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.30    one month ago
You want Republicans to denounce Trump?

The GoP should have cut loose of Trump at the end of his term given the backdrop of his Big Lie campaign.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7.1.33  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.32    one month ago

As you can see, Vic still thinks he is just a wonderful human being that only ever had Vic's well being in mind...s/

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.34  TᵢG  replied to  Ender @7.1.33    one month ago

I know Vic et.al. were pleased with Trump’s core GoP policies.   That is logical.   What is irrational is the continued defense of Trump who no longer is PotUS and thus can no longer effect policy but who could, with support, secure the nomination or run as a spoiler.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7.1.35  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.34    one month ago

I still don't know of any grand policy of his unless one counts lower corporate tax rates...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.36  TᵢG  replied to  Ender @7.1.35    one month ago

Trump adopted core GoP policies such as border control, nationalism, fossil fuel usage, religious pandering, etc.   He always told his base what they wanted to hear.

Thus it is easy to see why the typical GoP partisan would like ‘Trump policies’.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.37  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.36    4 weeks ago
Trump adopted core GoP policies such as border control, nationalism, fossil fuel usage, religious pandering, etc.  

What a blatantly partisan description of Trump's policies.  Securing the border is part of being President of the US. Only a far left radical like Biden would flood the country with 5 million migrants in 2 years. "Fossil fuel usage?"  We have no choice. Only a far left radical like Biden would try to force the nation into electric cars when the country is a long way from supporting such a move. "Religious pandering?' Only a far left radical like Biden would demonize people of faith.


 He always told his base what they wanted to hear.

No TiG, he didn't tell his base... HE DELIVERED!


Thus it is easy to see why the typical GoP partisan would like ‘Trump policies’.

Thus it is easy to see why leftists hate Donald Trump.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.38  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.37    4 weeks ago
What a blatantly partisan description of Trump's policies. 

I listed some core policies of Trump and you label it 'blatantly partisan'.   You deny that  border control, nationalism, fossil fuel usage, religious pandering, etc.  were not core policies of Trump???   If so, what do you think his core policies were?

No TiG, he didn't tell his base... HE DELIVERED!

Two things.  First, you (intentionally) missed the point.   My point was that Trump told his base what they wanted to hear.   His policies were designed to appeal to his base.   You get that, right?   Second, he delivered on some (e.g. fossil fuel usage rather than continuing to shift to renewables) and failed on others such as his MAIN campaign promise of the wall.   You do remember how Trump promised a beautiful wall that Mexico would pay for, right?   

Thus it is easy to see why leftists hate Donald Trump.

What is your problem, Vic?   Everyone to your left ('leftists') is probably about 80% of the people.   Also, my point was that because Trump appealed to his base that there is no wonder the typical GoP voter would like his policies.   You ignore that and make an obnoxious, antagonistic comment.


Why do you continue to defend Trump and, in so doing, add to those who continue to keep Trump relevant and able to damage the GoP?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.39  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.37    4 weeks ago
"Fossil fuel usage?"  We have no choice.

Of course we have a choice.   The choice is not between an immediate all renewables vs. all fossil fuels as you ( intentionally ) imply.    Rather the choice is the rate of migration away from fossil fuels towards renewables.    Our infrastructure is almost entirely dependent on fossil fuels so the migration will take a long time.   Trump appealed to his base by slowing the migration towards renewables (alternatively stated:  by catering to fossil fuels proponents).   

It is dishonest for you to "read into" someone's comments that a pro-renewable position means a near immediate shift from fossil fuels to renewables.   When one must leap to extremes to make a point, one should reevaluate their position.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.40  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.39    4 weeks ago
 The choice is not between an immediate all renewables vs. all fossil fuels as you ( intentionally ) imply.   

I imply it because that is the way Biden has handled it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.41  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.40    4 weeks ago

What is the point of making ridiculous claims like this?    All that does it encourage people to not take you seriously.

Biden has not —and he does not even have the power to do so— forced a mass shut-down of fossil fuel usage.   He has favored the use of renewables over fossil fuels.   That is an incremental push towards renewables and nothing even remotely close to an all or nothing move.

As I noted, our collective choice is the rate of migration from fossil fuels to renewables.    And no matter what a leader might personally desire, the massive momentum of the USA infrastructure (which is currently extremely dependent on fossil fuels) will change direction only so fast.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.42  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.41    4 weeks ago
 He has favored the use of renewables over fossil fuels.

There is currently no such options. He has pursued a radical energy policy, which has hurt working people.

BTW, try to talk to people without insulting them.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.43  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.42    4 weeks ago
He has pursued a radical energy policy, which has hurt working people.

'Radical' is subjective.    To a hard core conservative many actions by a D PotUS would be perceived as radical.

The point remains that a PotUS is very limited in his ability to transform our nation from fossil fuels into renewables.   The PotUS can only encourage / discourage the rate of transition towards fossil fuels.

Implying ALL or NOTHING (as you have confirmed you have done) is ridiculous regardless of your taking offense to the observation.


Bottom line, the USA should continue to migrate from fossil fuels to renewables.   It must do so at a measured pace because our infrastructure remains very dependent on fossil fuels.   There simply is no way to just cut the cord (practically) and if we could do that we would incur tremendous economic hardships.   Our most sensible choice is to pay as we go at a practical pace with a goal of being predominantly based on renewables within a few decades and ultimately to be exclusively renewable.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.44  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.43    4 weeks ago

It's not ridiculous. It's true. He is trying to force people to buy electric cars. Our system can't even support that.

Anyone who regards the Biden energy policy as "normal" is a radical.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7.1.45  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.44    4 weeks ago

Opinions....everybody has one....

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.46  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.44    4 weeks ago
It's not ridiculous. It's true. He is trying to force people to buy electric cars. Our system can't even support that.

First of all, 'ridiculous' was applied to you implication that Biden is ALL or NOTHING on renewables.   You are shifting that label now to a much lesser claim.

Yes, Biden is encouraging consumers to buy electric cars.   He cannot force them to do so nor would that make any sense.   Our system cannot handle a mass move to electric vehicles and the manufacturers do not produce anything near the amount needed for that to occur.

Partisans typically exaggerate.   Best to not do that.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.47  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.46    4 weeks ago
 He cannot force them to do so nor would that make any sense. 

You do realize that he cause the price of gas to rise above $5 per gallon because he was slow walking permits to drill!

"The Biden administration finally owned up to what we have known all along — killing the Keystone XL Pipeline cost good-paying jobs, hurt Montana’s economy and was the first step in the Biden administration’s war on oil and gas production in the United States," Sen. Steve Daines. R-Mont., said Thursday in a statement. "Unfortunately, the administration continues to pursue energy production anywhere but the United States." 




Partisans typically exaggerate. 

And radicals typically try to normalize radical policy.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.48  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @7.1.45    4 weeks ago
Partisans typically exaggerate. 

But you can't have your own set of facts.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
7.1.49  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.47    4 weeks ago

Speaking of gas prices, South Carolina was down to $2.59 a gallon last week and now it is sitting at $2.99 again. WTH  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.50  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1.49    4 weeks ago
WTH  

The election is over. Joe doesn't care anymore.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7.1.51  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.48    4 weeks ago

Never hurt donald...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.52  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.47    4 weeks ago
You do realize that he cause the price of gas to rise above $5 per gallon because he was slow walking permits to drill!

Our refineries are predominantly based on sour crude.   Our domestic oil resources, in contrast, are predominantly light and sweet.   The historical reason for this strange disparity is that it is cheaper to buy sour crude imported oil than to lift same from our own resources.   To wit, our historical use of cheaper imported sour has left us with refineries that are mostly NOT well suited for the crude at our fingertips.

If we had been strategic (and responsible) as a nation (speaking of our politicians now) we would have reduced our dependence on sour crude and made more refineries geared (predisposed) to domestic sweet crude.   But we did not do that so we are still importing the cheaper sour crude (while exporting roughly the same amount of domestic crude).

The Keystone pipeline was both ill-conceived and irresponsible.   It would have encouraged more dependence on sour crude and would involve one of the dirtiest extraction and refining processes for crude oil on the planet.   It was a major step in the wrong direction for reducing our carbon emissions.  And given the acidity of the heavy sour tar sands crude, leaks in the pipeline would be a constant concern and thus another environmental threat on our land (tar sands crude is nasty stuff).   In addition, the process of refining the dirty tar sand crude is very expensive.   So this is not a great way to even reduce domestic fuel costs.    

On jobs, I am very much in favor of opening new industries in renewable energy.   It is irresponsible for us to pursue dirty crude, with all the climate and environmental problems, and little (some see negative) real economic gain.

The price of gas, by the way, had very little to do with the Keystone pipeline.   There is a psychological effect given the market and producers see the administration was heading away from sour crude ... and that factors into the price.   But the Keystone pipeline was not operational so it is not as though Biden turned off an active spigot.   The key reason for the gas price increases was the refineries not ramping up production from the low-demand of the COVID era, OPEC barrel prices, and the invasion of Ukraine.   

Major events that are out of our control (or where we have limited control) will always happen.   It is not only smart from an environmental perspective, but from an economic perspective for the USA to NOT be dependent upon imported crude but rather be a major consumer and exporter of renewable energy.   It will take time and it will hurt, but we need to change the direction of our nation for the long haul.   The Keystone pipeline would be directly counter to a smart strategy.   

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.53  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.47    4 weeks ago
And radicals typically try to normalize radical policy.

It is an obvious fact that Biden is NOT ALL or NONE on renewable energy.   Amazing that you think noting this fact is "normalizing radical policy".   

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.54  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1.49    4 weeks ago

Who do you think is controlling the prices at the pump?    

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    one month ago
after feds fly the bill to St. Croix

They FLEW it to the human fuck up machine.  So much for going green.  But then again, this administration isn't known for doing the right thing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.2    one month ago

Remember how the media absolutely vilified Ted Cruz for going to Cancun?

Notice how quiet they are now.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.1    one month ago

There's a word for that.......HYPOCRITE.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.2.2    one month ago

Our wonderful msm, who have used their freedoms to slant the news.

 
 
 
Snuffy
PhD Guide
7.3  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    one month ago

The optics on this are bad but I don't believe this is the first time a year-end bill has been flown to a president to be signed as the president is on vacation somewhere.  The only real reason why the optics are so bad on this is that Biden is supposed to be the champion for Green Energy and flying a bill down to the Caribbean is not very climate friendly.  Nor the fact that the President went down where it's warm when it's cold as hell in Washington.  Again not the first time.

My only real issue is the hypocrisy of the two sides.  And I hope that their free stay at a political donor's mansion down there is properly documented on campaign finance forms as I'm confident it will be brought up again should Joe decide to run again.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Snuffy @7.3    one month ago

At least we know one thing: Congress can release Joe's tax returns....along with just about everyone else's.  Let us celebrate the transparency!

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.3.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.1    one month ago

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Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
7.3.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @7.3.2    one month ago

Thanks for another valuable contribution to this discussion.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
7.3.4  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.1    one month ago

Which will be another yawner event.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @7.3.4    one month ago

They have the two years that he paid for another two years. They can point to it and say "look he paid nothing those two years" and some 18 year old, living at home with a struggling mommy & daddy, will go right out and vote democrat!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Lawyer Harmeet Dhillon Claims Victory As January 6 Panel Drops Trump Subpoena

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"Conservative attorney  Harmeet Dhillon  is celebrating the House January 6 Committee withdrawing its subpoena against former President Donald Trump.

The victory for The Dhillon Law Group, which Trump hired to fight the subpoena seeking testimony and documents, comes as  Dhillon is challenging Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel  to lead the Republican National Committee. After Trump was subpoenaed in late October, a lawsuit was  filed in November .

“After my firm filed suit on separation of powers grounds to block January 6 House Select Committee’s illegitimate subpoena to President Trump over his activities while president — the committee waved the white flag & withdrew subpoena,” Dhillon said in a tweet Wednesday.

“We were confident of victory,” she added, “in court, given precedent & refusal of prior presidents to testify in Congress. J6 committee wasted millions for a purely political witch-hunt, total abuse of process & power serving no legitimate legislative purpose.”




Ms Dhillon is currently running for Chair of the RNC.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    one month ago
J6 committee wasted millions for a purely political witch-hunt, total abuse of process & power serving no legitimate legislative purpose

No surprise there.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.1    one month ago

But it was a great commercial for the DNC going into the midterms.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.1    one month ago

And like everything else the DNC is involved in - it failed

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.1.2    one month ago

It did deflate the red wave. I have to think that people were influenced by it. 

I know it sounds weird, but people voted on that.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.3    one month ago

And how many are having buyers remorse over it now.  Quite a few.  Can't rule out there are those gullible fools that are fall for everything.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.1.4    one month ago
nd how many are having buyers remorse over it now.

We won't know until 2024. By then I hope the RNC has their act together and is playing the same game as the democrats.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Participates
8.1.6  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.1    one month ago
But it was a great commercial for the DNC going into the midterms.

Definitely a contender for an Emmy in the Fantasy and Melodrama categories.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @8.1.6    one month ago

The only thing missing was Tom Cruise as Committee Counsel.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    one month ago

Not newsworthy

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @8.2    one month ago

What isn't?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.1    one month ago

The post I responded to at your comment 8, if you're still confused, I can't help you

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @8.2.2    one month ago

You don't think the democrats withdrawing their Trump subpoena is newsworthy?

Interesting.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.3    one month ago

Which Democrats are doing this?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @8.2.4    one month ago

The ones on the Jan 6th House Committee

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @8.2.4    one month ago

Plus isn't it up to the special prosecutor what else might be done regarding all the criminal acts regarding the big fat turd and other charges that he is still facing elsewhere?

It ain't over yet

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.2.7  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.3    one month ago

January 6th Committee is disbanding...

Trump can be charged with contempt! 

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
8.2.8  George  replied to  JBB @8.2.7    one month ago

Any day now, that’s what we have been hearing for years.

Did you send Mitch McConnell a thank you for keeping that piece of crap Garland off the Supreme Court?

 
 
 
GregTx
Junior Participates
8.2.9  GregTx  replied to  JBB @8.2.7    one month ago

Impressive!! So you have a degree in economics and law??....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @8.2.7    one month ago

For what?

The subpoena has been withdrawn.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
8.3  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    one month ago

What bullshit. They had to drop the lawsuit as the committee is ending...All she did was stall long enough to run out the clock.

Which now other people are going to use the same tactic.

Yeah something to cheer on there....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @8.3    one month ago
All she did was stall long enough to run out the clock.

Ya, that been the left's narrative. The truth is the Committee always knew it was a separation of powers issue, but they did it anyway, expecting zero pushback. When you have a chance, look up when Harry Truman was summoned before Congress.  

Shhh...(
In 1953, former president   Harry S.Truman   refused to comply with a House subpoena after he was accused of knowingly appointing a Russian spy to a position while in office.)  


 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
8.3.2  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.3.1    one month ago

Separation of power?

In what position of power is donald currently in?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.3.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @8.3.2    one month ago

A former President, just like Harry Truman was in 1953..

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
8.3.4  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.3.3    one month ago

800

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
8.3.5  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.3.3    one month ago

So Truman ended up testifying seven times....

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
8.3.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ender @8.3    one month ago

ey had to drop the lawsuit as the committee is ending

Of course. It was a political stunt.   If the Democrats actually wanted his testimony they would have subpoenaed him in 2021 and fought it out. They just wanted a headline, so they subpoenaed him in the fall of 2022, election season.  

 
 
 
Ender
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8.3.7  Ender  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.3.6    one month ago

Probably would have had the same result.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.3.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.3.6    one month ago
Of course. It was a political stunt.

It's been a political stunt since 2016.  That's why, after 6 years of "investigations" we haven't seen a damn thing.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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8.3.9  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Sean Treacy @8.3.6    one month ago
They just wanted a headline,

Off topic , but speaking of headlines , i saw one the other day on my news feed , "Harris/ AOC ticket in 24?" with a BIIIIIG question mark. 

 i didnt even bother to read past the head line , but was thinking , the bench must not be that deep for candidates if they are floating that .

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.3.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.3.9    one month ago
Harris/ AOC ticket in 24?

For that it means there isn't a SINGLE Democrat with a functioning brain left to run.  Monkeys would be better candidates.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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8.3.11  Ronin2  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.3.10    one month ago

Hey I like monkeys- stop disparaging them.

I am sure they can throw shit just as well as any politician.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.3.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ronin2 @8.3.11    one month ago

I'm not disparaging them at all.  I'd vote for one over Harris or AOC.  At least the monkey would serve a purpose.  Harris and AOC?  Just oxygen thieves.

 
 
 
George
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8.3.13  George  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.3.9    one month ago
Harris/ AOC ticket

Haven't they already done this movie? Dumb and Dumber?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.3.14  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  George @8.3.13    one month ago

remember , they made a sequel to that one too. Im still sure that the prediction i made back in 2016 here on NT has a pretty good chance of happening , that this country was due for and going to have a couple ( 2maybe 4 ) one term presidents 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8.3.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @8.3.5    one month ago
So

So you don't understand the difference between President's or former President's refusing to appear under subpoena and appearing under their own volition as a witness?

Got it!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9  Sean Treacy    one month ago

It's truly amazing what a bad actor China has been throughout the entire Covid debacle. From trying to cover it up and destroy evidence at the very beginning, to manipulating the WHO and providing false information to the world about the spread of the disease, they've behaved despicably and criminally.  Yet, every time China's abhorrent behavior comes up, the response from some on the left is to minimize it or deflect to "But Trump"

The obsession with seeing America as a villain has just broken some people's brains. They can't process actual villainy when they see it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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10  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

Meet CNN's new "Senior Political Commentator"

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Vic Eldred
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11  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

"The corrupt and compromised Hillary Clinton To Join Columbia University As Professor"

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