January 5, 2023 GOP deadlocked over House speaker vote


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Via:  jbb  •  3 weeks ago  •  4 comments

By:   Aditi Sangal, Adrienne Vogt, Maureen Chowdhury and Elise Hammond (CNN)

January 5, 2023 GOP deadlocked over House speaker vote
A House speaker stalemate continues after GOP leader Kevin McCarthy failed to secure the necessary support in past rounds of voting. Follow for the latest live news updates.

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By Aditi Sangal, Adrienne Vogt, Maureen Chowdhury and Elise Hammond, CNN

Updated 5:57 AM ET, Fri January 6, 2023 90 Posts Sort byLatestOldestDropdown arrow 8 hr 56 min ago

McCarthy says there's no timeline for getting to 218 votes and defends concessions he has made

From CNN's Manu Raju


After the House voted to adjourn for the night, Rep. Kevin McCarthy told reporters that while there has been progress in negotiations, there was no timeline on when he could get to 218 votes.

McCarthy's bid for speaker -- he lost 11 votes in the House this week -- has been stymied by about 20 fellow Republicans.

"I have the longest speech on the floor so apparently I like to make history," McCarthy said, referring to an address of 8 hours and 32 minutes he made in November 2021 aimed at stalling President Biden's plan to expand the social safety net. "If this takes a little longer, that's OK," he added.

McCarthy also addressed why differences weren't resolved before Tuesday, saying "we tried to sort it out before Jan. 3."

On the concessions he's made so far, McCarthy said he's not concerned about giving just one member the power to call for a vote to oust the speaker. "I'm very fine with that," McCarthy said. "I'm not afraid. … I won't be a weaker speaker."

McCarthy also denied that any members would lose committee assignments and said there have been no negotiations that involved giving subcommittee chairmanships to dissidents.

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House GOP members scheduled to hold a conference call on Friday

From CNN's Melanie Zanona and Annie Grayer

House Republicans are scheduled to hold a conference call Friday, a source familiar tells CNN.

Rep. Kevin McCarthy and his allies had wanted to avoid another in-person conference-wide meeting after Tuesday's in-person meeting led to private tensions spilling out into public view.

But the thought is that a call could potentially minimize that, as members from all sides of the conference continue to try to come to a deal over the speakership.

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Here's what to know about Thursday's multiple votes for speaker

From CNN staff

Despite making key concessions to get the top job, McCarthy on Thursday was again unable to persuade enough Republicans to elect him Speaker of the House — failing to get the required majority after 11 rounds of voting that have taken place over three days.

This has been the longest contest for speaker in 164 years.

As the stalemate continues, tensions are rising. One reliably conservative GOP lawmaker told CNN about the "increasing frustration" among centrists at the number of concessions McCarthy has offered opponents as he scrambles to get to 218 votes.

Here are the key details:

  • Opposition: Twenty Republican lawmakers, despite continued talks and concessions, have so far declined to support McCarthy. Republicans again nominated Rep. Byron Donalds for four of five of Thursday's voting rounds. After getting a few votes on the eighth ballot, Rep. Kevin Hern was also officially nominated for the ninth, 10th and 11th rounds of voting. Notably, Rep. Matt Gaetz voted for former President Donald Trump during the seventh and eighth ballots, and he nominated the former president for speaker in the 11th ballot. Trump only received one vote in that round.
  • "Present" votes: GOP Rep. Victoria Spartz, who initially voted for Rep. Kevin McCarthy, voted present on Wednesday and for all five ballots Thursday. She said at the beginning of the day she felt talks needed to make more progress and that McCarthy needed to "move the needle" first.
  • Ongoing negotiations: McCarthy allies and opponents are pushing for a deal Thursday tonight in an attempt to show progress, a source says. But, at least four Republican members are leaving town Friday because of various family issues. Lawmakers hope to have some sort of agreement tonight and then a deal to adjourn at some point over the next 24 hours in order to come back Monday, a separate source says.
  • "Motion to vacate": In a series of new concessions first reported by CNN Wednesday night, McCarthy agreed to propose a rules change that would allow just one member to call for a vote to oust a sitting speaker, sources say. McCarthy had initially proposed a five-member threshold, down from current conference rules that require half of the GOP to call for such a vote.
  • Other concessions: McCarthy also agreed to allow for more members of the Freedom Caucus to serve on the powerful House Rules Committee. While McCarthy's allies are willing to swallow most of the deals, they are drawing a line in the sand over one issue: committee gavels for the holdouts. Later, in a meeting with moderates, McCarthy downplayed the concessions he's made so far.
  • McCarthy's thinking: Asked if he is concerned that he could be a short-lived speaker because of the concessions he's made to give one member the power to call for a vote seeking a speaker's ouster, McCarthy said, "No, not at all." Thursday morning before the House reconvened, McCarthy said he feels talks are "making progress," adding that lawmakers are "working together to find a solution."
  • Democrats: Rep. Hakeem Jeffries continues to have the unanimous support of his caucus. He told reporters before voting started Thursday that his party does not plan to help the GOP, and will continue to be present and stand united. President Joe Biden said he is closely watching the House.
  • A historic floor fight: This is the longest speakership bid in more than 160 years. It took nine ballots for Rep. Frederick Gillett of Massachusetts to be elected speaker in 1923. And in 1849, the House had been in sessionso long without being ableto elect a speaker - 19 days - that members voted to elect their speaker with a plurality rather than a majority. Members ultimately confirmed the plurality election with a majority vote.

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A marathon of speaker ballots: Here's a look at Thursday's votes

Rep. Kevin McCarthy has now failed to win a majority of votes across 11 ballots over three days in his push to become House speaker.

Despite continued talks, 20 Republicans have consistently not voted for him (up from 19 defections in the first two rounds) — and instead have nominated other candidates to take votes away from McCarthy.

The House will remain paralyzed until this standoff is resolved. It's now the longest contest in 164 years.

Here's a look at how the votes panned out on Thursday:



  • 212: Jeffries
  • 201: McCarthy
  • 19: Donalds
  • 1: Other — Trump
  • 1: Present


  • 212: Jeffries
  • 201: McCarthy
  • 17: Donalds
  • 3: Others — Trump, Rep. Kevin Hern
  • 1: Present


  • 212: Jeffries
  • 200: McCarthy
  • 17: Donalds
  • 3: Hern
  • 1: Present


  • 212: Jeffries
  • 200: McCarthy
  • 13: Donalds
  • 7: Hern
  • 1: Present


  • 212: Jeffries
  • 200: McCarthy
  • 7: Hern
  • 1: Trump
  • 12: Other — Donalds
  • 1: Present

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The House has voted to adjourn until Friday

The House has voted to adjourn until noon on Friday — without a clear decision on a speaker. The House cannot continue any business or swear in new members without filling the speaker role.

Lawmakers voted five times on Thursday, but Rep. Kevin McCarthy was unable to secure the votes to win the speakership.

Members say negotiations are ongoing.

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The House is voting on whether to adjourn until noon Friday


The House is now voting on whether or not to adjourn until noon ET on Friday.

The motion needs a simple majority to pass.

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McCarthy is defeated in 11th ballot for House speaker

Kevin McCarthy was defeated again in the 11th round of voting for House speaker.

This is now the longest speaker contest in 164 years.

His GOP opponents nominated two other Republicans - Rep. Kevin Hern and former President Donald Trump - to draw votes away from McCarthy.

Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries had the unanimous support of his caucus.

The final tally was:

  • 212 for Rep. Hakeem Jeffries
  • 200 for Rep. Kevin McCarthy
  • 12 Rep. Byron Donalds
  • 7 for Rep. Kevin Hern
  • 1 Donald Trump
  • 1 present vote

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McHenry says House is probably not going to adjourn any time soon

From CNN's Kate Sullivan, Annie Grayer and Morgan Rimmer

GOP Rep. Patrick McHenry, a key negotiator who is trying to lock in support for Rep. Kevin McCarthy for speaker, said the House is "probably not" going to adjourn any time soon.

But he expressed optimism about the state of the negotiations.

"Each meeting is more positive than the last. And that's a very nice sign," McHenry told reporters as he emerged from the GOP negotiating room.

"This is gonna be a nice evening eventually, just a question of when," he said.

When asked if there was a deal physically on paper he quipped, "Yeah, no, we're not quite digital yet."

"What we want to do is have assurances on paper about what the process is and how to deliver these conservative reforms that I think the conference will appreciate and endorse," he said.

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McCarthy's PAC has given hundreds of thousands of dollars to those now opposing him for speaker

From CNN's David Wright

Rep. Kevin McCarthy steered hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign cash to members of the GOP caucus now threatening his bid for Speaker of the House, FEC records show.

Since 2008, McCarthy's leadership PAC, Majority Committee PAC, has given $316,000 to 17 of the Republican members now opposing him.

One of the largest beneficiaries is also one of McCarthy's most vocal opponents, Freedom Caucus Chair Scott Perry, who has received more than $50,000 from McCarthy's PAC since 2012.

McCarthy has also given at least $25,000 to Reps. Michael Cloud, Andrew Clyde, Andy Harris and Ralph Norman over the years.

McCarthy's contributions to the rebellious members were made through his leadership PAC, Majority Committee. Leadership PACs are fundraising vehicles that exist in addition to a candidate's primary campaign committee. Prominent members, leveraging their profile, use them to raise and dispense extra cash to their allies.

Here's a look at contributions:

  • Scott Perry: $52,500
  • Andy Harris: $26,000
  • Michael Cloud: $25,000
  • Andrew Clyde: $25,000
  • Ralph Norman: $25,000
  • Andy Biggs: $20,000
  • Matt Gaetz: $20,000
  • Dan Bishop: $20,000
  • Matt Rosendale: $20,000
  • Byron Donalds: $20,000
  • Paul Gosar: $17,500
  • Anna Paulina Luna: $10,000
  • Bob Good: $10,000
  • Mary Miller: $10,000
  • Chip Roy: $5,000
  • Eli Crane: $5,000
  • Keith Self: $5,000


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Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    3 weeks ago


Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

I dont have any sympathies for any of these GOP fools. It is interesting though to see a 90% majority (the 200 McCarthy votes) be bullied into submission by a 10% minority ( the anti-McCarthy votes).

I wouldnt mind seeing 20 or 30 Democrats voting for McCarthy, get him in there, and then watch him become even more hated by the "Freedom Caucus" because they will assume he cut some mysterious deal with the Democrats. Watching that play out would be entertaining for a little while. 

Professor Guide
2.1  evilgenius  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 weeks ago
I wouldnt mind seeing 20 or 30 Democrats voting for McCarthy, get him in there, and then watch him become even more hated by the "Freedom Caucus" because they will assume he cut some mysterious deal with the Democrats. Watching that play out would be entertaining for a little while. 

What McCarthy should do is publicly reject these holdouts and renounce all the deals he gave them and then work with Dems to form a moderate coalition to solve some problems. They should be barred from committee assignments regulating them to angry media soundbites. I want to believe the majority of American people are tired of the partisan bullshit. Unfortunately the far right runs the party and it won't happen. 

Professor Guide
3  Tacos!    3 weeks ago

If I were McCarthy, I would retract all the concessions made. (Truth is, I wouldn’t have made them in the first place.) They obviously aren’t helping, and they serve only to make this circus the kind of thing that could be repeated easily. These holdouts are just getting off by being agents of obstruction.


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