Trump suggests he will declare national emergency and use military to push through mass deportations
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Trump backs up talk of using US military to enforce mass deportations
Donald Trump gave the nod on social media this morning to the notion that he wants to use the military to enforce his previously-stated intentions for the mass deportation of undocumented immigrants from the US once he gets into office.
The Republican president-elect talked on the election campaign trail about declaring a national emergency in order to trigger powers that would facilitate a rare and highly controversial move to engage the US military to help deport millions of people he deems to be in the US illegally.
Trump responded "TRUE" in an early-morning post on his own platform, Truth Social, after a conservative activist had said he heard such reports.
Tom Fitton , the president of the influential conservative group Judicial Watch, had posted: "GOOD NEWS: Reports are the incoming @RealDonaldTrump administration prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program."
Trump reposted with his own comment, "true", appearing to confirm.
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It's all legal and proper. They need to start with the terrorists and criminals that are assuredly somewhere in the mix with the law abiding and hard-working immigrants. So many claims as needing asylum have turned out to be not true. Everyone else needs to get in line and wait.
Melon prices will go through the roof.
Almost all food prices will go through the roof. Hotel and construction costs will rise too.
They went through the roof over the last four years. I'm just glad you are engaged and concerned about inflation now. Welcome to the discussion.
I'm sure we'll see a jump in quality and a reprise in American businesses.
O... M... G...
Call out the Army!
Trump did say he also wanted to increase defense spending. I didn't realize it would be for farm labor, but I guess that works.
Roomba tractors!
Coming sooner than we suspect.
You mean we need 20 million unvetted migrants to work the fields?
There are a lot of lawns that need mowing.
Who will pick the cotton when the slaves are freed??? Oh noes..
If that is all we care about, then we should change the law.
However, most Americans disagree:
Majority of Americans support mass deportation, poll shows
You maybe wanna think that through, Sean.
What?
You care about something other than your lawn?
He doesn't have too. most Democrats haven't changed, that want whatever minority group they can find to do their labor for them, at slave wages.
Why?
I care about many things, Bob, including the ideology that influenced so many.
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Posse Comitatus Act is very specific on what the military can and cannot be used for within the Continental US.
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Another death threat, you are 2 for 2 today.
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Law, schmaw...
Who cares what the law says?
I do.
Good for you!
Trump doesn't give a flying rat's ass.
I never said he did.
We always seem to have a Trump expert, who knows what he is thinking.
With the number of known terrorists that come into the US under Biden, it only makes sense to use the military to target them domestically the same way we do overseas.
Trump campaigned on this, America overwhelmingly voted for it. It's happening.
Democrats tried to secure future elections by allowing tens of millions of unvetted to illegally enter the country and then used tax dollars to fly and bus them to swing states. America soundly rejected this.
Winning by 1.6% of the popular vote is not overwhelming or a mandate.
It doesn't matter where they ended up, they could not vote.
Your beloved political party intended to change that. That is the point, a nefarious way to permanently change the electorate. America soundly rejected the attempt to highjack elections.
That fact doesn't seem to matter to some. They have their conspiracy theories and by gawd they are not giving them up
Just like all the Latinos that were supposed to vote in lock step with the Democrats? that apparently didn't work out as planned this year and can never be counted on in the long run as it may take most folks 10 years to get the right to vote.
You keep saying that as if it is correct, meaningful or anything other than conservative propaganda.
Trump won the popular vote by 2,659,742 votes in a race
where some 20 million registered voters stayed home.
Not a mandate or a landslide or "soundly rejected", sorry.
312 over 226 would be called overwhelming - 59% of the electorate - the votes that counted.
The EC was concocted to keep the power in the hands of property owning white men.
The Framers also thought that the popular vote would eventually allow a popular but unqualified candidate to win the popular vote so they concocted a system where each state picked it's own electors, the adults in the room, to make sure only qualified candidates could win.
Well, sorry to say that ship has sailed and the EC has been figured out and usurped by party politics, not what's necessarily the best for the country.
Once again it boiled down to PA, MI & WI.
That's hardly fair and many West coast voters simply don't bother voting, the election is over before all of their votes are counted.
It's a broken system, Trump hated it when Obama won, loved it when Trump won, despised it when losing to Biden, now he loves it again.
Lol. The EC was constructed to protect the power of small states and induce them to join the union. The founders weren't nearly as racialist as the typical modern progressive, who sees the world through a race based prism.
They spent a billion plus 20 million more and couldn't win a single battleground state and even lost some of their coalition vote.
Please supply evidence of anything remotely like this ever happening. Where are these armies of illegal aliens voting? - especially in the tens of millions? And this being the case - allegedly - how in the world do Republicans keep winning elections?
His so-called facts need to be fact checked
They don't care about evidence. They don't care about facts. "Reality" is whatever they declare it to be.
... and they control the future of the country.
Start with California voter rolls.
Where are they?
So RFKJR, Elon and Vivak want to fire tens of thousands of unionized government employees and all of the so called experts that run those agencies by April 2026
and Trump wants to round up all the construction and agriculture laborers... to deport them using the military?
I guess the unemployment number isn't so important after all.
The Posse Commitas Act is only 146 years old, just another piece of paper to ignore or maybe have SCOTUS rule unconstitutional
So, you saying that government workers really need to be unionized? The teacher unions have proved the insanity of that notion.
So, you're also saying that the Hispanics that work in the construction, agriculture, and the various hospitality industries are illegals?
It seems the Biden and company have broken existing laws by allowing this invasion of unvetted illegals into the US
Where oh where did I say any such thing? Project much?
Can you point that out anywhere in my comment history or are you projecting your own biases again?
We have been over the vetting process and the vetting process for sponsors too many times in the past for me to repeat
myself to the victims of Trump media and propaganda.
Not as important as removing the criminal element.
The military can be used in the Posse Comitatus Act and has done several times. Reality is, there is nothing to be crying over on this issue.
Are they wearing a sign, facial tattoos or are you just assuming you know how to identify this criminal element?
you do know how investigations work don't you? But, hey, if you want THIS running around your neighborhood more power to you.
and you know this because you see it in your neighborhood?
You really don't pay attention to what's going on do you? It's been reported Tren de Aragua is a problem in the US.
Since it was reported mostly by the one campaign as evidence that crime is rampant in the US; the same campaign that railed against the economy after inflation has come back down, I will simply use my years of experience to make my own conclusions and not rely on the lies of politicians, thank you.
the DoJ and the FBI reports crime down significantly ( like 70 %? ) since 1993.
I have lived all over the states and haven't witnessed this. I was an ombudsman on base for three years and can honestly say that even living on a very secure base cannot keep one from incurring harm from one' neighbors.
So until I can see the crime or the illegal immigrants running down the streets of my Texas town, I will listen to the political hype with much suspicion.
I can only assume he's going to first try to use NG troops, but that will cost a shit ton of cash as well as all those unhappy troops getting shafted at their jobs and in their personal lives while they are away from home.
Trump did say he wanted to pull troops from overseas and station them on the border. That will be a logistical and political nightmare just to pull them. Those nations depend on the money the US military spends in their locations as well as the missions they provide. To put them on the border the Trump admin would have to seize public and private lands and that won't go without a legal fight.
No matter what this will cost a shit ton of money for a temporary fix.
This was preventable and the current administration did it intentionally. Now that the neocons are being purged out of the pentagon and DOD, we are going to have some extra money to secure the border and deport.
Funny hearing the left concerned about government spending. I think I like this new call for Austerity!!!!!
Several states are already using NG Troops at the border and having some success. Others will be using them for protection around DC in January.
The jobs are protected under federal law. They'll still have them when they return and the families should be familiar with how deployments work.
It would be a logistical challenge. As far as the nations depending on the money, I think it's safe to say that the money going to them for "protection" would be cut quickly enough.
Stopping the money flow to Ukraine should about cover it.
The mission was a success, the neocons made a fortune in defense and arms deals and Blackrock now owns a large swath of golden agricultural land in Ukraine. The war can end now after countless Ukrainians lost their lives.
Post War maybe Ukrainians can grow Melons for Whole foods so our elites don't suffer.
Then they shouldn't have enlisted.
"No matter what this will cost a shit ton of money for a temporary fix."
Probably true if a democrat (God forbid) gets elected president in four years, the border will open right back up again, and the illegals will just start pouring back in like they did the past 4 years.
How many times do I have to point out to you that the money flow goes to American companies? You seem either unwilling or unable to comprehend that 1 little fact.
Well then it won't be fixed then will it?
What are you talking about?
lol
We Texans have been fighting that fight since 1845. Having been a sovereign nation, the original southern border and the current southern Texas border were private property, cities, towns and in some cases. Indian territories.
There is no Federal buffer zone in Texas as there is in CA, AZ, NM. Cases started by George Bush and Bill Clinton are still being fought in courts over the border, walls and access to water rights.
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Yes. 4 years ago the National Butterfly Center won their appeal against the Trump Admin to build wall sections on their land.
Fixed is a binary choice. There are only 2 choices - fixed or not fixed. If it's reversed with simply signing EO statements then it's not fixed. Congress can allocate proper funding and change the way the laws work. They don't seem to want to. Maybe Trump can push Congress to do that. If so I'll give him all the credit due.
As have the Indian reservations, although the migrants avoid most of the reservations and a wide open border.
Your idiotic statement about the money flow going to Ukraine. Are you not reading your own posts?
We send billions to Ukraine.
So you're talking about...nothing of any importance. Just trying to deflect again.
[✘] hopefully educating others about the truth.
Try harder.
[✘] You have your own false narrative and you refuse to see the truth in the matter.
Allowing 15 Million to cross the border unvetted is a national security threat. We all know why Democrats allowed this. Neocons won't be happy, they rather use our military to defend other countries but the electorate voted, America first. In case you didn't pay attention it was a sweeping victory and Democrats only won states where no Voter ID is required. That's going to change too.
The jig is up, no amount of acrobatics can justify what Democrats did at the border. While your outraged is noted by the echo chamber that supports your statements, the majority think otherwise on this issue.
Buckle up, bite on leather because this is happening.
If anyone knows where the 300,000 children smuggled across the border are, this is the time to speak up?
Good luck!
What are their names? Where do they live? Any idea? At all? What resources will be employed to find out? How much money will be spent finding this information? What if you arrest somebody and they claim you got the wrong guy or they’re here legally? What if they ask for asylum?
Are we just going to skip due process and deport anyone we pick up?
Government can’t scratch its own ass without fucking it up somehow. Does anyone believe that government will just run out into the country, find illegal aliens - and only illegal aliens and make no mistakes?
I’m not saying don’t try. Just stop promising the moon.
2 very good questions. If they are undocumented....they aren't registered any where where some one can go to their residence and pick them up
Your other questions are also very good
Thanks to the Obama administration we have an entire list of illegals who thought he could make them legal through EO, Start there.
He offered them legal status but they had to apply
And thousands did, up to 500,000 if the estimates are right.
So now they're legal right? So what's your complaint exactly?
They aren't legal, the court said he didn't have that power, it's Congress job, so now we have all the information, including where they live, plus probably their illegal parents who didn't quality, so finding them won't be that difficult. I think Biden has tried to appeal it, but they have lost pretty much every round. When it gets to the supreme court, it doesn't look good for the illegals.
And, by the way, talking about removing tens of millions of people from the country - in some short time period - with apparently no concern for the impact that will have on the economy.
But I’m not concerned any of this will actually happen. None of his big promises ever actually happen.
I wish more people followed this thought process.
Those egg prices are gonna spike really quick along with other vegetables, meat, and poultry. Why don't they go after the businesses that employ immigrants? Who do you blame? The wealthy elites who exploit immigrant labor or the immigrants? Republicans never go after the source of a problem.
I blame the source....the corporatists who employ the labor because it's cheap and these people have no means of complaining about how management treats them
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In order to circumvent the Posse Commitatus Law, wouldn't Trump have to invoke The Insurrection Act and demonstrate that the people he wanted the military to arrest, detain and deport were actually involved in an insurrection against the U.S.?
Posse Comitatus Act and Insurrection Act - ThoughtCo
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I do not remember you saying anything objectionable in a comment to me and I certainly did not complain about anything you said so far as this old gray head can remember.
You are one of the smartest guys on NT and able to discuss issues withut melting down - I will miss that
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He missed that chance back on Jan 6th, as he played with himself while watching people he summoned and incited, wreak havoc on our own capitol, thus why i view Trum as a pussy, a pussy grabber, and an American back stabber
Kinda hard to use the Insurrection Act when people are busy picking apples and lettuce