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A plea for leniency

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  150 comments

A plea for leniency
“So the karma is crushing here. But the greatest irony, of course, is to hear her counsel and her spokesperson say ‘This is just wrong because Trump campaigned on moving against his enemies.’ For those of us who have covered this litigation for years, having those words come out of the mouths of James’ staff really is breathtaking,” Turley told host Elizabeth MacDonald. “She campaigned on a promise to bag Donald Trump on something. She didn’t even bother to name what it was. She literally...



The Department of Justice has now opened an investigation into New York Attorney General Letitia James, who led the state’s case against President Donald Trump in 2022 for fraud and falsifying business records according to the Washington Post. The investigation is a result of the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, William Pulte, reporting to the DOJ that James had “falsified bank documents and property records to acquire government backed assistance and loans and more favorable loan terms” multiple times.

According to the principle that James demanded in her prosecution of then candidate Trump, everything that was signed in his name made him legally bound to every detail. Therefore, James should be held accountable under the same standard. She faces serious charges no matter how one looks at it over falsifying mortgage documents.

2023-authorizing-purchase-virginia-property-102855504_70995a.jpg?w=1024 Exhibits from Criminal Referral for NY AG Letitia James by U.S. FEDERAL HOUSING FHFA   New York Attorney General Letitia James

FBI opens formal criminal probe into New York AG Letitia James over alleged mortgage fraud

Special thanks go to reporters Nick Pope and Myles Morrell (Daily Caller News Foundation.) They were the first reporters to visit the properties in question. They did the critical work of investigative reporters and uncovered details that challenge James’ official claims and raise new questions about who actually resides there.


In other news:

India and Pakistan are engaged in their most aggressive military conflict in decades, with widespread accounts of attacks in each country well beyond their disputed Kashmir border.
Fighting has escalated rapidly since Wednesday, when India launched airstrikes. It blames Pakistan for a terrorist attack in Kashmir; Pakistan denies involvement. Airlines are avoiding flying over Pakistan and some of northern India.

Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping met for talks in Moscow. In a joint statement, they rejected what they described as Washington’s attempt to contain them.

A new satellite image showed the U.S. has sent two additional U.S. B-52 bombers to its Diego Garcia airbase in the Indian Ocean, underscoring Washington's growing long-range strike capability near Iran as tensions persist despite another round of nuclear talks.

The Trump administration approved its first sale of weapons to Ukraine after signing a memorandum of intent to exploit Ukrainian mineral wealth.

Trump said the U.S. would lower tariffs on British steel and cars. Britain agreed to increase market access for American exports including beef and ethanol. The UK was the first to make a deal on trade.

Trump asked Speaker Mike Johnson to include a tax increase on the wealthiest Americans in the fiscal package that House Republicans are putting together.

The U.S. could bring the first group of endangered white South Africans recently classified as refugees to America next week. Trump indicated that they are being racially persecuted in their home country.

President Trump withdrew the highly controversial nomination of Ed Martin to run the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington, after a key Republicans said they would not vote for Martin because of his support for Jan. 6 rioters. In Martin’s place, Trump named the Fox News host and former District Attorney Jeanine Piro to be the interim U.S. attorney for Washington.

The Trump administration removed the head of FEMA and fired the head of the Library of Congress.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Good morning and welcome to our Friday morning conclave Also known as the news.

There is a new Pope.

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He is an American.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    last year

"Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett is being blasted on social media for jumping ahead of two passengers in wheelchairs while taking a flight out of Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport over the weekend.

House GOP Conference Chairwoman Lisa McClain (R-Mich.) posted photos of Crockett (D-Texas) boarding her flight ahead of the wheelchair-confined passengers and highlighted the security that flanked the outspoken Democrat.

“SPOTTED: Jasmine Crockett with a taxpayer-funded police escort, cutting everyone in line — even making DISABLED people wait,” McClain chided on social media with images of the Texas rep cutting the line."

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Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett accused of ‘abusing her power’ at airport after she cut passengers in wheelchairs

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year

First of all people who use wheelchairs in an airport are not necessarily disabled. Some of them just have difficulty walking the long distances within an airport. But that is neither here nor there. This "incident" is so trivial in nature it makes you wonder about the motivations of those who seek to "expose" the "crime". 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    last year
This "incident" is so trivial in nature

I was brought up to respect the elderly and those in wheelchairs.

Do you think Crockett was?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    last year

Is it because she's black? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    last year
Crockett was born in  St. Louis , Missouri, to parents Pastor Joseph and Gwen Crockett.  She attended  Mary Institute and St. Louis Country Day School  and  Rosati-Kain , an all-girls  Catholic high school  in St. Louis. Jasmine Crockett - Wikipedia

I dont see any evidence that she wasnt brought up to respect her elders and the disabled. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    last year

Why focus on her race?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    last year

Clearly cutting off people in wheelchairs raised the question. Why the callousness?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    last year

Says the person who posts photos of black people acting badly almost every single day.

You are hilarious. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    last year

I post news stories. I don't care about race, and I don't suffer from "white guilt."

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    last year
Is it because she's black? 

Is that why you are saying it was a trivial incident?  Or is that because she is a dem?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    last year
I dont see any evidence that she wasnt brought up to respect her elders and the disabled. 

The evidence was at the airport and it was documented.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    last year
You are hilarious. 

You are deflecting

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.7    last year
I don't suffer from "white guilt."

Now that is a problem.  S/

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.11    last year

I think it is THE PROBLEM.

It is a major cause of racial unrest.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.9    last year

He seems to think that her father was a pastor and pastors are all good.

I wonder if he heard of the reverend Wright?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.13    last year
He seems to think that her father was a pastor and pastors are all good.

Well, that is an issue. Trump's personal spiritual adviser, Pastor Paula White is a known grifter who preys on the ignorance of her "flock". 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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2.1.15  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    last year
First of all people who use wheelchairs in an airport are not necessarily disabled. Some of them just have difficulty walking the long distances within an airportairportqq1

If they cannot walk long distances yes that makes them disabled, unless you are a cruel heartless person. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.16  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    last year

Just pretend she is Trump.

You would be screaming for him to be impeached, tried, and imprisoned for doing the same.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year

Ever hear of SkyPriority check-in? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.3  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year
“SPOTTED: Jasmine Crockett with a taxpayer-funded police escort,

I’m pretty sure that security for anyone in government is “taxpayer funded.” We’re really going to pretend that’s a scandal?

cutting everyone in line — even making DISABLED people wait,”

Kinda looks like they’re all waiting. Even Crockett.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Did anyone catch "The View" yesterday?

They had former president Joe Biden & Jill Biden as guests.

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They were Interviewing a man who is clearly in cognitive decline about whether he was in cognitive decline and then had his wife answer for him when he exhibited cognitive decline.  It was comical.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    last year

Donald Trump called the Mattel toy company a country yesterday. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    last year

We need links when you quote the President.

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Edward R Murrow rules.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    last year

Vic, I always have the links. 

As Donald Trump threatened more tariffs on US toymakers Mattel at a press conference at the Oval Office on Thursday, the POTUS mistakenly referred to Mattel Toys as a 'country.' The 78-year-old's gaffe, which was caught on camera, went viral on social media with people saying that President Trump thinks Mattel is a country. Trump Calls Mattel Toys A 'Country' While Threatening Tariffs, Gaffe Goes Viral | Video
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    last year

Okay, that's better.

He said country instead of company.  And he closed the border and brokered trade deals and ended DEI.

I think I can overlook the slip.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.3    last year

If you any sense you'd stop asking me for links.  I dont make fact based comments without links. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    last year
I dont make fact based comments without links. 

You did in 3.1.

Don't try and compare him to Biden, who was a complete fraud perpetrated on the American people,

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    last year

It’s astounding in this day and age a  cabal not only won a presidential primary election (made possible by hiding him in the basement due to Covid) but secured his renomination despite an inability to function as an independent adult.  

it makes some sense democrats were able to hide presidential infirmities prior to age of television and mass media, but to almost pull it off now just just how corrupt and influential opinion setters are. It didn’t matter how bad the actual video evidence was, they’d just say “cheap fake” and claim that behind cameras he was more energetic than a thirty year old, and tens of millions of Americans believed it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2    last year

The Democrats lost the 2024 election. 

Now people like you try, every single day, to use Joe Biden as a justification for Donald Trump.  It is stupid and embarrassing. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    last year

  It is stupid and embarrassing. 

What is stupid and embarrassing is that tens of millions of people who fell for the "he's  got more energy that  a 30 year old" schtick aren't too embarrassed by their own behavior to ever criticize anyone else again. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.2    last year

You're right, nothing can compel me to stop criticizing Trump and Trumpism. He is a buffoon, a crook , a moron, and completely dishonest and unethical. 

I never cared about Biden except that for four years he spared from the international humiliation of having Trump as our president. 

aren't too embarrassed by their own behavior to ever criticize anyone else again.

And you are too embarrassed to start criticizing trumpism. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    last year
Now people like you try, every single day, to use Joe Biden as a justification for Donald Trump.  It is stupid and embarrassing.

No, actually, Kamala Harris is responsible for Trump and Biden was the second reason. Harris was a shit candidate and people realized the wool that the Dems attempted to pull over their eyes with the "but he is okay" bullshit. They were lied to. Some bought, but not enough. Let that be a lesson................

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.4    last year

And based on the dems seemingly movement to the left they will have a terrible presidential nominee in 2028.  The only way they will win is if the repubs try to hand it to them.  I have faith they will at least try.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.3    last year
He is a buffoon, a crook , a moron, and completely dishonest and unethical. 

You're entitle to their opinion no matter how uninformed and factually wrong it is.  Just don't cry when you are publicly called out.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.7  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.4    last year

You voted for Trump and still try to defend him.   What he does is on you and everyone else who voted for this irresponsible, vindictive, buffoon.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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3.2.8  arkpdx  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.4    last year

Kamala Harris was !it even fit to be :ice president except that she was black and a woman. 

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.9  CB  replied to  arkpdx @3.2.8    last year

Nobody need defend Ms. Harris against your slight, we know what MAGA is about. That is, MAGA is NOT colorblind. Just look at that 2025 presidential cabinet: Not one black woman in it.

MAGA could not find one qualified black conservative woman to be near Trump with her 'black' conservative perspective. Why? Trump is no DEI president. /s

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.7    last year

And you can thank all of us later.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.11  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.10    last year

It is dangerous for our nation to have people who support Trump no matter how clearly he has shown that he is irresponsible, incompetent, vindictive, and toxic for our nation.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.11    last year

Tell it to China..............

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.13  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @3.2.9    last year
Just look at that 2025 presidential cabinet: Not one black woman in it.
MAGA could not find one qualified black conservative woman to be near Trump with her 'black' conservative perspective.

DEI / Affirmative Action (or what ever you want to call it this week) is no longer a requirement.  Want specific demographic(s) in a position then find one that meets the standards / requirements.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.14  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.12    last year

It is important to understand what is taking place and not just declare everything Trump deems a victory as such.

Prior to Trump we had targeted tariffs ranging from 7.5% to 25% on China with planned increases (Biden) on EVs, solar cells, etc.   This is a targeted use of tariffs to promote domestic production of these items.

Trump started the trade war and bumped Chinese tariffs to 145% across the board.   Not only is this an absurd abuse of the tariff tool, this harms the US consumer.   Remember, Trump stupidly thinks that tariffs are paid by the trade partner when in actuality it is a domestic consumption tax.

In response, China imposed a 125% tariff on the USA.

Now, today, we have a 90 pause which reduces the US tariffs on Chinese goods to 30% and China reduces their tariffs on US goods to 10%.  (I think the American consumer would prefer a 0% tariff on Chinese goods.)

Trump creates a problem and winds up 'negotiating' a temporary cease fire given the damage his self-imposed problem has caused and he declares this a victory and his supporters just accept it without question.

Good grief.

Just hope that Trump continues to back off on his brain-dead use of tariffs and focuses on areas where he does not cause as much harm.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.15  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.13    last year

I know you are not talking about qualifications, when Trump won't fire a fool who is in charge of this nation's military and does'nt know an unsecured app when he sees one. Cursing and getting rid of diversity in a diverse nation is stupid and will make for a lot of sad, underemployed people which MAGA says it hates but want to see them unemployed and outdoors anyway. Homogeneity in the Trump administration is 'top-heavy.' And worse, it means that when one goes down - all will go down together. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.14    last year

The tariffs are working to get others to the table for negotiations. That may have been created but, at least his creation and result was the objective. In other words, "the plan". That you don't see that is quite perplexing if not strange to begin with.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.17  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.16    last year
The tariffs are working to get others to the table for negotiations.

That is nonsense.   Trump bullshit.   There is no need to impose tariffs to engage trade partners.  

That may have been created but, at least his creation and result was the objective. In other words, "the plan". That you don't see that is quite perplexing if not strange to begin with.

Again, Trump is incompetent.   He needlessly damaged trade relations and started trade wars instead of just sitting down and negotiating.   He is full of shit.  People need to realize that and cease sheepishly believing what he claims. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.18  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.17    last year

There is a big difference in results between the two methods. Just sitting down and saying, "You aren't fair to us (either party)" just leads to long, drawn-out back and forth. While doing it this way, he got their attention, and it isn't going to be six months or more to get things done as it would have been as volleyball would be played with the former tactics ending who knows when.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.19  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.18    last year

You continue to buy his bullshit.  

We have negotiated trade deals throughout history without preemptive public threats and trolling of trade partners.   It shows sheepish acceptance of whatever Trump says to buy the utter bullshit that the only way to negotiate trade deals is to stupidly try to bully and belittle trade partners before even opening negotiations.

Note that even Trump in his first term (where he had competent advisors) negotiated trade deals using normal, sensible diplomacy.    If threats are needed, issue them privately and with some level of diplomatic sophistication.

Trump is an incompetent buffoon and he is a danger to this nation.   Supporting him is the exact wrong thing to do.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.20  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.19    last year

Per Kamala Harris..............

"we know those who try to incite fear are most effective when they divide and conquer, when they separate the herd, when they try to make everyone think they are alone.”

Seems to me a lot of people don't see the three fingers pointing back at them when pointing fingers at others.

Although she wasn't speaking of Dems, she sure hit the nail on the head when it comes to ANY points concerning Trump and those who voted for him.

Shame shame...................

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.21  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @3.2.15    last year
I know you are not talking about qualifications

What I said is in plain english.  

when Trump

And there is the expected deflection and rant. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.22  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.17    last year
That is nonsense.

Results say differently.  

There is no need to impose tariffs to engage trade partners.

If you want change, it is.  And it's shown to be effective.

Again, Trump is incompetent. 

Again, waiting on proof.

He needlessly damaged trade relations and started trade wars instead of just sitting down and negotiating. 

That's one opinion.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.23  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.20    last year

That was not a rebuttal, just a complaint that your position has been criticized.

There is no way that a trade negotiation is helped by issuing public threats and taunts.   It shows a lack of good faith on the party making the threat and puts the threatened party publicly in a position of having to save face.   It degrades the ability to negotiate.

If a threat must be made, it should be done privately and sensibly.   Follow the notion of speak softly and carry a big stick.  Trump acted like a junkyard dog and then the asshole actually had the classless temerity to publicly claim that trade partners were kissing his ass.  Add fuel to the pointless fire.  This is the guy you support as our president!   He made the USA look like an untrustworthy bully pushing our weight around instead of a trade partner who would negotiate in good faith.

This is so obvious.   Trump is incompetent and damages our nation weekly.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.24  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.22    last year
Results say differently.  

One would have to be in an alternate reality to believe that.

Again, waiting on proof.

The standard line from you.   You never accept proof or evidence.   And your words prove this yet again because after all Trump has done, you still do not recognize the proof of his incompetence.   You never will.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.25  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.23    last year
It shows a lack of good faith on the party making the threat and puts the threatened party publicly in a position of having to save face.

Again, it's the plan. Hasn't registered yet, I guess.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.26  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.21    last year

Call it whatever you wish. It changes nothing about the 'occasion' of bull that was shared by MAGA griping about DEI/Affirmative Action. The response stands.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.27  CB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.25    last year

"The plan" has yet to yield expected results. So far, we are in a 90 day wait and see mode.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.28  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.25    last year
Again, it's the plan. Hasn't registered yet, I guess.

As I noted, it is a counterproductive 'plan'.   It is stupid no matter how you look at it.   Any deals that wind up being negotiated will be no better than those negotiated by and as responsible, rational adults.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.29  TᵢG  replied to  CB @3.2.27    last year

And no matter what negotiations result, they will be no better (likely worse) than what could have been negotiated privately and with some modicum of respect and civility.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.30  CB  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.29    last year

Well,  sometimes something good can be gained from forcibly dragging "dirty laundry" out into the street! All the same, I agree with your view. Now, I watch and see how it plays itself out (in public). Of course, Trump puts on a show that he can't be shamed. Don't know if the same can be said for Xi of China.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.31  TᵢG  replied to  CB @3.2.30    last year

Trump did not even drag out dirty laundry.   He flat out lied about our trade partners.   Especially about Canada.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.32  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.28    last year
 Any deals that wind up being negotiated will be no better than those negotiated by and as responsible, rational adults.

Just a lot sooner...........

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.33  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.32    last year

No, Jim, public threats and taunts hinder progress.   How can you possibly think the opposite?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.34  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.33    last year

Yet look who is coming to the table.........................

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.35  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.34    last year

You continue to believe (for whatever bizarre reason) that one must PUBLICLY taunt and threaten trade partners to get them to the table, that behaving like an arrogant asshole is the way to encourage negotiation with foreign nations.

Any PotUS can negotiate with a trade partner by simply starting a diplomatic dialogue.   Unlike his first term, where he did indeed negotiate trade deals using normal PRIVATE methods, Trump is trying to bully other nations the way he bullied subcontractors, et. al. as a real estate executive.   He stupidly cannot see the difference between the two.

So explain how PUBLIC taunts and threats to foreign nations encourage them to negotiate with the USA in good faith and why that is better than engaging them in the normal fashion with PRIVATE diplomatic meetings based on a well-conceived plan (a deal) which could be agreeable to both sides.   Note, again, that any threat of force could have been communicated in PRIVATE rather than the bombastic PUBLIC threats and taunts of Trump.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.36  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.35    last year

One word. Transparency. He puts it out in the open rather than spoon-feeding the populace with a bunch of bullshit that never happened behind those closed doors. By doing what he does, the responses from the other parties come to the forefront, and we see how both sides react. Being behind closed doors, we will get what they want us to get. Nothing more.

I guess some have to live in the past with the status quo that always has plaugued GovCo.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.37  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.36    last year

So your explanation for how PUBLIC threats and taunts are more effective than PRIVATE diplomacy is that they are public???    Public = "puts it out in the open".

Your argument is a tautology:  public is better because it is public.

Good grief, man.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.38  CB  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.37    last year

To be fair to Jim, I can see his point to a certain level. 1. When individuals, persons, groups, and governments are CONFRONTED in public-they act differently. Generally, people would like to be seen as the way they photograph themselves ("Say cheese.") In the case of nations, the critical leader, will go back and check to see if there actions are in fact up to. . . snuff. . . and their earlier assessment yet real today. Because they are being 'fronted' for all the world to see. 

This can get really 'hairy' and 'testy' for countries that are a bit shady. . . or let's say their national 'books' are not in order and they do not wish for snoopers to come snooping and asking exposing questions. Therefore, they decide to come along and correct the deficiency-which may have been going on. . . simply because this loud boisterous opportunity made them reconsider, reflect, or just plain run 'scared' of what could be revealed. 

Sure, it would be nice to have individuals, persons, groups, and nations 'come forth' without twisting them in the wind. . . but, some of these types need to feel that familiar (for them) figurative 'slap,' 'shout,' or 'stab' to get stimulated to reflect and act differently.

The irony of it all is, for some people such crude behaviors and 'barbaric' treatment (being attacked) is disarming. That is, even 'they' are surprised when they find they are willing to go along with some version of it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.2.39  TᵢG  replied to  CB @3.2.38    last year
When individuals, persons, groups, and governments are CONFRONTED in public-they act differently.

But that is my point.   Public humiliation / threats / etc. put people on the defensive.   And thus less reasonable.   Further, with trade partners, they need to publicly counteract the threats and taunts so that they do not look weak.

Publicly taunting and threatening trade partners is brain-dead stupid.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.40  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.24    last year
The standard line from you.   You never accept proof or evidence.

You haven't provided any to accept or reject.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.41  Right Down the Center  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.36    last year

True.  Many world leaders care about the optics.  With Trump going on the offensive it forces them to go on the defensive for everyone to see.  That may make a difference into how the negotiations turn out.  It may turn out to be a good or a bad strategy but it is a strategy regardless of what the Trump haters say.  They seem to think that continuing to do things behind closed doors will end in different results.  They can come out of meetings and spin them anyway they want just as we see almost daily with every behind closed doors meetings.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Now that we have disposed of the matinee, here is the basis for a great appointment:

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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year

Is that the same Jenine Pirro who was drunk on camera a few years ago? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year

The prosecutor of Robert Durst.

Be respectful.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
4.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year
Is that the same Jenine Pirro who was drunk on camera a few years ago? 

You mean she was accused by a few wingnuts on social media.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    last year

I dont see The Five regularly but i do see clips of it from time to time. At this point she couldnt prosecute her way out of a wet paper bag. The liberal on the show , Jessica Tarlov, routinely dunks on Pirro, who is 74 years old now. . 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    last year
Jessica Tarlov, routinely dunks on Pirro,

When Jessica is interrupted for any reason, she goes silent. Tarlov is a very timid person considering that she is a tv analyst.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
4.1.5  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year

I don’t know but it is hilarious from someone whose worst ‘news’ station had their anchors getting drunk and high on camera during New Year celebrations and not a peep from you. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
4.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    last year

I see the show 3 or so times a week. I won't say she dunks on anyone but she can hold her own.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
4.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year

Is that the same Jenine Pirro who was drunk on camera a few years ago? 

Yep, she is another DUI hire for the epic failure of the trump presidency.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
4.1.8  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.7    last year

When has she been arrested for DUI, or are you just trying to make another "funny" that failed?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year

Only in Trumpland is “being on TV” a qualification for an important government job.

My initial impulse with these appointments is bafflement that anyone would give up what looks like a pretty cushy job - where they get to just shoot their mouth off for an hour - in favor of a job with actual responsibility and accountability that pays a fraction of what they make on TV. 

But then I remember these people have outrageous egos and probably have so much money that being perceived as “important” or “powerful” is now more valuable to them.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @4.2    last year
Only in Trumpland is “being on TV” a qualification for an important government job.

Again, she was a District Attorney who prosecuted important cases.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
4.2.2  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.1    last year

I did not dispute that. Trump felt it was important to mention the TV bit. That’s what matters to him.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.2.3  Ronin2  replied to  Tacos! @4.2    last year

Only in leftist land does DEI qualify anyone for a position in government.

Basing who is qualified on race, sex, LQBTQ++ (how many pluses are they up to now?), and what their personal pronouns are got us the shit storm that was the last administration.

Pirro has actual experience in the field Trump hired her in- which is more than you can say for most Brandon DEI hires.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
4.2.4  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.3    last year
Only in leftist land

Do you start EVERY post like that? Jesus, grow up. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
4.2.5  Tacos!  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.3    last year
Only in leftist land does DEI qualify anyone for a position in government.

There is no reason for you to start bellyaching about DEI. I didn’t say anything about it.

Only in leftist land does DEI qualify anyone for a position in government.

I never said otherwise. Maybe you should go back and read my comment again. You keep referencing things I didn’t say.

Also, being appointed as the US Attorney for the district doesn’t really make her part of the administration, so I don’t know why you’re bringing that up, either. You seem obsessed with Biden, who isn’t even relevant to the story.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5  author  Vic Eldred    last year

"Sens. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., and Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, have launched an inquiry into the National Archives and Records Administration (“NARA”) after documents provided by a whistleblower revealed the archives’ role in the criminal targeting of Trump in the alternative electors case. This recent revelation means NARA stood at ground-zero for both of the special counsel’s criminal cases, with NARA also behind the classified document investigation."

On Monday, Johnson and Grassley issued a  press release  announcing the opening of an inquiry into NARA and its inspector general, to probe the propriety of their involvement in the classified document and alternative electors criminal investigations of Donald Trump. The press release also noted Johnson, the Chair of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, and Grassley, the Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, were seeking “all NARA records, including the NARA Office of Inspector General, referring, or relating to the Arctic Frost and the classified document investigation.”

Whistleblower Docs Implicate NARA In Get-Trump Criminal Case

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    last year

whoop de doo. Johnson is a full blown conspiracy addict and Grassley is 91 and often confused. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    last year

Just a pronouncement, no facts. Well, that's the AOC method.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    last year

"The House has passed a Republican-led bill that would rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, moving a step closer to codifying   President Donald Trump ’s push to rename the body of water.

The bill, which lawmakers approved in a 211-206 vote, now moves to the Republican-led Senate for consideration. One Republican, Rep. Don Bacon of Nebraska, voted with Democrats Thursday against the measure."

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House passes GOP-led bill to rename Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
6.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    last year

Personally I think it is silly

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.1    last year

He loves trolling the dems.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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6.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    last year

He does.   We have a man-child wielding the powers of the US presidency.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.2    last year

We have a real man as President. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    last year

Just incredible that you can post obviously wrong claims like that with seemingly no concern for credibility.

Trump is a con-man and a clown.   His fragile ego is on display for all to see as he abuses the powers that people like you irresponsibly granted him to engage in petty vindictive behavior and promotes himself as some kind of super hero (winner of Golf championships, pope, and the various action figures).   It is ridiculous; the kind of propaganda of dictators used by the likes of Kim Jong-un.   What serious leader does this?  

Worse, though, is that he is incompetent and wholly unfit for the presidency.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.4    last year

Half the nation or so is in complete denial about Trump. The truth is our society is in a lot of trouble. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.2    last year

[✘]

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.4    last year

That's a whole lot of opinion.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.1.7    last year

Yes, that is my opinion.   I doubt that anyone was confused about that.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
6.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    last year
We have a real man as President. 

LOL! I mean, that truly is hilarious. I guess if you believe being a pathetic fat greasy convicted felon and lying sack of shit makes one a "real man" then he certainly would be your poster child. But hearing it said out loud feels like listening to someone trying to convince themselves that the shit sandwich they ordered and are chewing on really isn't as bad as it is. Mind over matter, as long as the conservatives get what they want which is to push our nation closer to the white rightwing conservative Christian nation they desire, then suffering through the shit sandwich will have been worth it. I'm just glad they are the ones who will be the architects of their own demise as they continue to push rational patriotic Americans too far and eventually the pendulum of justice and reality will come swinging back with a vengeance to metaphorically smash their already toothless stupid as sin fucking grins into oblivion.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.8    last year

At least you admit it this time and not push it as "fact".

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    last year

They seem to like it, otherwise they would just ignore it like everyone else.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Senior Silent
6.1.12  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    last year

“We have a real man as President.”

Bullying, braggadocio, and belligerence do not a real man make.

Characterless, as a defining trait, is fine for some who choose to enable it despite its ugliness, but it is not for a second, in any context, presidential nor manly. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.1.10    last year

Another witless dishonest tactic.   You pretend that I push my opinions as fact so that you can invent a personal criticism.

Get an argument.   Provide something of value instead of making shit up to pen obnoxious posts.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @6.1.12    last year

The lack of fear and the persistence is what marks him as such.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.4    last year

Name calling does nothing for credibility.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.1.11    last year
They seem to like it,

They like discussing such things. Tweets & boasts they can talk about all day. Facts are what they don't like to discuss.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
6.1.17  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    last year
He loves trolling the dems.

The fact that he, or you, or anyone finds value in that is fucking sad.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.18  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.16    last year

You lose every single "debate" you take part in here, and it isnt even difficult. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
6.1.19  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.18    last year

That is funny

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.1.20  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.15    last year

Describing Trump accurately is not name-calling; you clearly have nothing of substance to offer.  

Provide an actual rebuttal instead of deflecting with that ridiculous 'name-calling' tactic.

Ignoring all the wrongdoings and failures of Trump and taking any hint of success and exaggerating it to ridiculous proportions shows no desire to be true to reality.

Explain how you support Trump's irrational tariffs and the negative consequences of same (notably trashing the US reputation as a trustworthy trade partner).    Explain why engaging our trade partners privately and diplomatically was not even attempted and Trump instead enraged our trade partners and created a worldwide trade war that will hurt the everyday consumer —given he was elected to do the opposite.

And if you actually believe that this is somehow going to work out great for the USA in the end, then let's hear some real, persuasive logic because the bullshit that Trump offers is not doing it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.20    last year
Describing Trump accurately is not name-calling; you clearly have nothing of substance to offer.  

It is you who have nothing to offer.


Provide an actual rebuttal instead of deflecting with that ridiculous 'name-calling' tactic.

A rebuttal to name calling?  Sorry, I'll stick with critical thinking.


Ignoring all the wrongdoings and failures of Trump and taking any hint of success and exaggerating it to ridiculous proportions shows no desire to be true to reality.

Wrongdoings by Trump? Lawfare was used against him. Could that be wrongdoing? Have you ever accepted that the Russia/collusion hoax was wrongdoing?  Have you ever accepted that the DOJ and FBI under Garland committed massive wrongdoing?  I think you have a lot to learn about "wrongdoing."  
As for Trump exaggerating, I can live with that. I have secure borders, fair trade deals, prosperity and hopefully the eradication of leftist control of our institutions.

Explain how you support Trump's irrational tariffs and the negative consequences of same (notably trashing the US reputation as a trustworthy trade partner). 

That is fairly easy. The US cannot go on with massive trade deficits that have helped to destroy our middle class.

Explain why engaging our trade partners privately and diplomatically was not even attempted and Trump instead enraged our trade partners and created a worldwide trade war that will hurt the everyday consumer —given he was elected to do the opposite.

Because talking to them nicely hasn't worked. Take Canada for instance. They refuse to pay for their NATO defense and only contribute a bit more than 1% of their GDP. They have oil sitting in the middle of their country, which they sell 95% of to us. It would be less profitable to have to ship that oil to one of their coasts and ship overseas. It would have been nice if they reciprocated by buying Michigan or Wisconsin dairy products, but nicety was never part of the game. So, all that Trump has done via taunting Canada etc has led to the Canadian PM asking to meet President Trump, which he is now doing. It was necessary. A trade deal is coming, not a trade war.


And if you actually believe that this is somehow going to work out great for the USA in the end, then let's hear some real, persuasive logic because the bullshit that Trump offers is not doing it.

That is really funny. It is Trump who has put forth policies & ideas. Are you pretending that you don't know about secure borders, fair trade and job growth? What is even more funny is that you started out with name calling and now you want to talk about policies. Maybe you should have asked the democrats what their policies were for the past 4 years.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Senior Silent
6.1.22  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.14    last year

“The lack of fear…”

Like any bully, he is most definitely full of fear. Fear that he has been maligned, fear that he doesn’t fit in, fear that he is not taken seriously. 

Hence the fearfully motivated attacks on the people and assaults on the institutions that only confirm that fear. Retribution and denial, the incessant need for loyalty and surrounding himself with sycophants, the the lack of respect for established national values all point to just how fragile his grip on reality inculcated by fear. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.1.23  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.21    last year
It is you who have nothing to offer.

A Pee Wee Herman rebuttal.

Sorry, I'll stick with critical thinking.

LOL, see below.

Wrongdoings by Trump?

The question mark illustrates a profound denial of the obvious.

The US cannot go on with massive trade deficits that have helped to destroy our middle class.

What utter nonsense.  Good grief man, I have spent plenty of time providing you more than ample information for you to understand how trade deficits work, why a deficit is not necessarily bad, etc. and you still post this Trump-parroted bullshit.  

Because talking to them nicely hasn't worked.

Utter nonsense!   Have you forgotten that Trump in his first term 'negotiated' trade deals with Canada, Mexico, Japan, South Korea, and China?   Negotiations should be private, not public.  The USA should look like a reasonable trade partner, not some fucking bully pushing its weight around.   Again, this has been explained to you many times so you have no excuse blindly supporting Trump.

... secure borders, fair trade and job growth?

All of which I wholeheartedly support.   See, Vic, anyone can talk about nice goals.   What matters is actually achieving the results and not engaging in brain-dead stupid methods which DO NOT achieve the results and instead bring harm.


Trump is incompetent and dangerous.   He is an embarrassment who weekly harms the USA and its people.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
6.1.24  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    last year

What is a "real" man? Think about it long and hard. Now, please share your answer.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
6.1.25  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.21    last year
Maybe you should have asked the democrats what their policies were for the past 4 years.

Or what they would have been if Kamala had one.  They were quiet about that too.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
6.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    last year

What I find hilarious is the people that are crying about this renaming are the same people who renamed military installations, locationsm removed statues and removed certain characters from products.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
6.2.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.2    last year

And **BOOM** hypocrisy uncovered.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
6.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.2.1    last year

And they don't even see it or understand it.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
6.3  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    last year

Is that the first thing they’ve passed this year? I don’t see them working on anything else. Priorities!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @6.3    last year
 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.4  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    last year
The bill, which lawmakers approved in a 211-206 vote, now moves to the Republican-led Senate for consideration. One Republican, Rep. Don Bacon of Nebraska, voted with Democrats Thursday against the measure."

How does that lower the price of food? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @6.4    last year

I'm glad to hear that you are now worried about prices.

I am pleased to announce that inflation is down to 2%.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
Professor Guide
6.4.2  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.4.1    last year

Some experts think tariffs could have some negative effects

The direct result? Higher prices on everyday items. Tariffs function as an extra tax that businesses often pass down to consumers, making goods like food, clothing, electronics, and even cars more expensive.

A Yale Budget Lab study found that disposable income for households earning around $43,000 annually will shrink by 2.3 %, while higher-income households (earning $500,000 or more) will see just a 0.9% decrease. When considering all 2025 tariffs, the gap widens, with low-income families ..

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.4.3  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.4.1    last year
I am pleased to announce that inflation is down to 2%.

Watch what happens when the price hikes due to the tariffs start hitting over the next few months.   You will not be pleased to announce anymore.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.4.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6.4.2    last year

Tell the experts to wait until the deals are made and then judge.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
6.4.5  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.4.4    last year

You mean the deals that were supposed to have happened in 'mere' moments of each Trump executive order? That are now open-ended to some future date? Who has time for that? The people were hurting before and now have been 'instructed' that it will get worse (for them) with this other 'old-guy' in the White House who wants to help the rich 'survive' and prosper.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.4.6  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.4.4    last year

It does not matter what deals are struck.   Trump has already secured the damage.   

Instead of engaging our trade partners privately and in good faith, Trump publicly threatened, imposed ill-conceived tariffs, and damaged the good will of the USA that had been forged by decades of responsible presidents.   The damage will take many years to correct.

And for what??   Nothing.   People like you choose to believe that the only possible way for the USA to negotiate trade deals is to try to force our trade partners into submission, and then keep changing our mind on the tariffs.   It is pure incompetence, not strategy.   And it is stupid;  we are not omnipotent in the global trade market.

In the end, whatever trade deal is struck could have been struck with diplomacy and clever negotiation (with the option of private threats if needed).   But we are already stuck with the damage of Trump and that is because people like you voted for and continue to support this buffoon.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
6.4.7  arkpdx  replied to  TᵢG @6.4.6    last year
whatever trade deal is struck could have been struck with diplomacy and clever negotiation 

But that is actually what was done. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.4.8  TᵢG  replied to  arkpdx @6.4.7    last year
But that is actually what was done.

Trump stupidly and needlessly damaged international trade relationships; squandering USA good will.   I just pointed out how that was totally unnecessary.   You thinking that these negotiations were done with diplomacy and clever negotiation is tacit admission that the threats and tariffs were unnecessary.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
6.4.9  CB  replied to  TᵢG @6.4.6    last year

Trump came in with a head full of 'steam' and thought he should be able to run rough-shod over other nations, because we are so 'big and bad.' It remains to be seen if other country's will allow him to approach and settle new trade agreements with them. Or if China will dutifully exploit this opening that has landed in their laps.

After-all, Trump 'rushed' to a microphone and delivered the most astounding line I have ever heard come out of a mouth of a 'civil' president: "Countries are kissing my ass" to make trade deals. Countries ultimately might 'do' it too!

But let's just be clear, they are not breaking down the door to be the first in line or near the top even. . .for pressing lips to the 'old guy's butt! I mean, really, what country wants to be first: Oh yes, Great Britain entered the 'office' and planted a 'starter' single lip caress to Trump's metaphorical butt. . . the other lip will interact at some time to be determined.

Just know this, the 'old guy' has already established with his rhetoric, that some butt-kissing will occur over these tariffs washing away. . .and, its Trump's position that it won't be the U.S. doing so!

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
Professor Guide
6.4.10  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.4.4    last year

And if the country is in ruins "when the deals are made" and only Trump and his cronies are getting rich(er)?

What should the experts say then?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.4.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6.4.10    last year

What country is in ruins?  The problem with all this chicken littlism is people open their door and things are fine. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.4.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.4.11    last year

Trumpism has done countless and long lasting damage to the fabric of American society.   You cant put a person of his wildly destructive personal characteristics into a position as the national leader and not have it be a calamity.  This is all done, its already in the history books, the only question is how long will this destruction last. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.5  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    last year

A perfect picture illustrating the absurdity of Trump and the feckless, spineless GOP congress rubber-stamping his nonsense.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    last year

"Former Supreme Court Justice David Souter, a Republican appointee who retired from the high court in 2009 after voting consistently with its liberal wing, has died, the Supreme Court announced on Friday.

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He was 85 years old.

Souter, a low-key New Englander who eschewed the national spotlight, was known by some as the “stealth nominee” when President George H.W. Bush nominated him in 1990 to replace the liberal lion William Brennan. Advisers assured the president that Souter would move the court to the right – a misreading that continues to reverberate today."

Supreme Court Justice David Souter, a Bush nominee who veered to the left, dies at 85

He was one of many Republican appointed judges who went over to the left.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    last year
He was one of many Republican appointed judges who went over to the left.

Hard to know what will happen once if office.  Trump seems to have become an early 90s democrat.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1    last year

Thinking about it, Trump really hasn't changed, it's just early 1990s Democrats are "far right" now.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1    last year
Trump seems to have become an early 90s democrat.  

Let us not underestimate him. He is leading a counter-revolution.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    last year
He was one of many Republican appointed judges who went over to the left.

He was one of many Republicans who stayed true to their ideals of true conservatism, not the spineless shit pile of corruption that the Republican party has become as it merged with the sewer dwelling shit eating festering pustule that is Donald Trump. True conservatives would never descend into the overfilled outhouse pit of putrescence that is the new Republican party under their wannabe authoritarian dick tater.

David Souter will be missed by all patriotic Americans on both sides of the aisle but will likely be attacked by those who were angry and bitter he didn't do more to destroy our constitutional Republic in favor of their desired rightwing authoritarian Christo-fascist nation. And to those folk I say, go fuck yourselves.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2    last year
David Souter will be missed by all patriotic Americans on both sides of the aisle

This hate filled rant actually hides a good point among all of its empty invective.  Progressives love  to talk about how much "better"  and honest republicans who are safely dead are when comparing them to modern Republicans. Of course, when they thought Souter was actually   conservative, they treated him no differently than they did Alito or Kavanaugh.  There were mass protests, hysterical claims of how he would "end freedom for women in this country" and all the other tired hysterics they use against every other Republican Judge. Similar to how Trump is attacked with the same canards they used against Romney.   There's no difference between how Democrats treated Souter when he was nominated  and how they treat Trump Republicans. Same hate. The idea they ever thought him an "acceptable conservative" is a lie. He went straight from a progressive boogyman to cherished liberal with a couple court terms. 

Since  Souter publicly showed himself almost immediately  to be a partisan liberal he didn't have to die for the hate to stop. Souter was never a conservative.  If he was, the hysterics Democrats greeted his nomination with would never have stopped. See Clarence Thomas. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
7.2.2  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2.1    last year

The fact is this: Judges ought to be critical personages and not beholden to anyone but the rule of law, and if I may, that law which shows practical deference to the condition and welfare of people. 

We congratulate the life of a man who 'repented' of his undone condition in office. That is, once the weight of his office as justice settled in on him, Mr. Souter, understand the 'howls' and hurts of citizens who were stuck in oppression and repression from yes, an over-bearing conservative majority (or minority as the case may be). His conscience being pricked, Justice Souter followed his mind and his heart (for the people) instead of an ideology. That is what "we" salute about the man. 

That he learned to have a heart for the people. Because at the end of the day, the only think that matters is what a leader can do for (all) the people and not just his or her tribe.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
7.3  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    last year

What a weird understanding of how law should function. Sad actually.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @7.3    last year
What a weird understanding of how law should function.

You mean applying the Constitution is "weird?"

Did Souter read the Constitution on the matter of abortion?

To this very day there is not a word about any right to an abortion in there.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
7.3.2  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.1    last year
Did Souter read the Constitution on the matter of abortion?To this very day there is not a word about any right to an abortion in there.

Please establish a basis for the question above, by relating and linking what background information you have on the matter.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8  author  Vic Eldred    last year

I have to take off

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Be back later

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
9  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year
The Department of Justice has now opened an investigation into New York Attorney General Letitia James

Which brings ALL of her work into question. 

The pathetic excuses from James and her little band of idiots have been hilarious.  This is going to be fun to watch.

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
10  squiggy    last year

I've seen her before - a statue in NY?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
10.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  squiggy @10    last year

The resemblance is uncanny.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
10.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  squiggy @10    last year

Holy shit, you're right.  jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif  

 
 

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