New Jersey mayor arrested at ICE detention center where he was protesting, prosecutor says
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Newark Mayor Ras Baraka was arrested Friday at a federal immigration detention center where he has been protesting its opening this week, a federal prosecutor said.
Alina Habba, interim U.S. attorney for New Jersey, said on the social platform X that Baraka committed trespass and ignored warnings from Homeland Security personnel to leave Delaney Hall, a detention facility run by private prison operator GEO Group.
Habba said Baraka had “chosen to disregard the law” and added that he was taken into custody.
Baraka, a Democrat who is running to succeed term-limited Gov. Phil Murphy, has embraced the fight with the Trump administration over illegal immigration.
He has aggressively pushed back against the construction and opening of the 1,000-bed detention center, arguing that it should not be allowed to open because of building permit issues.
Witnesses said the arrest came after Baraka attempted to join a scheduled tour of the facility with three members of New Jersey’s congressional delegation, Reps. Robert Menendez, LaMonica McIver, and Bonnie Watson Coleman.
When federal officials blocked his entry, a heated argument broke out, according to Viri Martinez, an activist with the New Jersey Alliance for Immigrant Justice. It continued even after Baraka returned to the public side of the gates.
“There was yelling and pushing,” Martinez said. “Then the officers swarmed Baraka. They threw one of the organizers to the ground. They put Baraka in handcuffs and put him in an unmarked car.”
The Department of Homeland Security said in a statement that as a bus of detainees was entering the detention center, “a group of protestors, including two members of the U.S. House of Representatives, stormed the gate and broke into the detention facility.”
It said the two members of Congress, Reps. Robert Menendez Jr. and Bonnie Watson Coleman, and a number of protesters were currently “holed up in a guard shack” at the facility.
Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin was quoted in the statement as calling it “beyond a bizarre political stunt” and saying it put agents’ and detainees’ safety at risk.
“Members of Congress are not above the law and cannot illegally break into detention facilities. Had these members requested a tour, we would have facilitated a tour of the facility,” McLaughlin said.
The department said the facility has the proper permits and inspections have been cleared.
An email and phone message left with the mayor’s communications office were not immediately answered Friday afternoon. Kabir Moss, a spokesperson for Baraka’s gubernatorial campaign, said, “We are actively monitoring and will provide more details as they become available.”
The two-story building next to a county prison formerly operated as a halfway house.
Then in February, ICE awarded a 15-year contract to The Geo Group Inc. to run the Newark detention center. Geo valued the contract at $1 billion, which is an unusually long and large agreement for ICE.
The announcement was part of President Donald Trump’s plans to sharply increase detention beds nationwide from a budget of about 41,000 beds this year.
Baraka sued GEO Group soon after the deal was announced.
Geo touted the contract with Delaney Hall during its earnings call with shareholders Wednesday, with CEO David Donahue saying it was expected to generate more than $60 million a year in revenue. He said the facility began the intake process May 1.
Hall said the activation of the facility and another in Michigan would increase total capacity under contract with ICE from around 20,000 beds to around 23,000.
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Congresswoman LaMonica McIver is on video pushing an agent trying to get in the facility.
Insurrection charges incoming? Have to apply the law equally...
Really?
I get you skepticism, because Democrats are massive hypocrites and have destroyed that principle. Good job highlighting their attempt to prosecute Trump for the same crime they ignored Clinton committing. And of course, their failure to spend years pursuing all the summer of 2020 rioters, particularly the ones who attacked the white house, federal courthouses etc, yet throwing the book at J6 rioters.
So this is a chance to show Democrats have to follow the law too, and this Congresswoman should be prosecuted to the maximum extent possible, even using creative interpretations of statutes that have never been applied before to send her away as long as possible.
Good luck with that. (Sign!) Look! If it is inevitable that all we will have is political warfare for the next four years and beyond. . . if this is all we are. . . all we have become . . . well, let's get to it.
Sorry, that’s bull. I don’t know who told you that, but hundreds of people were prosecuted by DOJ for rioting that summer.
I don’t know who told you that, but hundreds of people were prosecuted by DOJ for rioting that summer.
Rather than attacking strawmen, you should try reading and responding to what to actually I wrote.
So you're admitting that trump is committing crimes. Good to know.
So you are admitting the Democrats in New York prosecuted Trump for the same crimes they ignored Clinton committing. Good to know.
No one attacked a straw man, just the bullshit in your comment. You want people to believe the rioters of 2020 weren’t prosecuted, but they were.
Hilarious that they don't realize when they think they are giving you a gotcha, they are actually agreeing with you.
Yea, you could pad the bill against Baraka, too.
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She and the other democrats breaking the law were lucky the Babbitt standard wasn't applied to them.
This area of discussion is not suitable for NT!
This is UNSUITABLE for discussion!
Then, Trump should be pardoning him.
No. The standard set by Biden is to pardon cronies and family members only.
WTF are you talking about? First of all, Biden pardoned lots of people that aren’t connected to him in any way. So, that’s another lie from you.
Second, if Biden really set a standard, then either Trump violated it afterward, or you are connecting him to the rioters on January 6. By your assessment of how this works, all those rioters were his cronies.
We will see...
The for-profit prison system is just loving this. Each detainee is like a cash cow and the dumb fuck bigots gladly approve the tens of millions it costs because this isn't a financial issue, it's a racist one. White nationalists are shitting themselves in fear of losing what they see as some fantasy white conservative Christian nation to what they see as godless liberals and criminal foreigners with different cultures, different religions, languages and skin colors.
That's why they gladly will pay to incarcerate as many brown undocumented people as possible. They don't care about the tens of thousands of undocumented Canadian immigrants, hell, they can't even tell them apart, so I guess out of sight, out of mind. But boy can they get hot under the collar when they see a Hispanic person that they automatically assume must be undocumented even though there are roughly 65 million legal Hispanic Americans living among them already, especially if that person is speaking Spanish around them. If they were actually upset at the legality of an immigrant born outside the US staying in the US without documentation, then we'd hear the rightwing conservatives talking about the undocumented Canadians and how they need to be removed from our shores because it's the law and that's what they're really concerned with, not the race or culture of the immigrants.
Tens of thousands of Canadian illegal migrants?
Please give us a link.
There was literally a seed the other day about the Trump admin trying to deport an irish woman with a green card. But sure, it's just brown people. They cling to their myths come hell or highwater.
And the racist thing is part of their ideology.
Referring to Hispanics as "brown people" is extremely racist.
Why? Tell us why you think that.
In America, you cannot arrest your political opponents“. - Ro khanna democratic congressman
Pure comedy. Late night tv cannot write something this funny.
This story is obviously worthy of attention
Suddenly insurrection is good again on the left. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds. Watch them defend a member of congress attack a federal LEO after justifying putting non violent trespassers in jail “
The insurrectionistC who attacked ice officers today, Democrat Rep. LaMonica mciver, has a track record of call for violence , : “God d*mn it, shut down the city! We are at war”
Hahahahahahahahahaha, didn't know that you posted this article from the liars point of view.
Your proof?
Well, being a very left-centered source, yeah, a very definite "liars point of view".
You would expect what else from the Dem/Libs?
Do you consider the New York Post leftist?
You betcha.
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Your point?
The Post, not The Times
They told him to leave. He left. They closed the gates. Then they opened the gates and came out onto public right of way and arrested him.
This apparently illegal arrest is what the congressional delegation objected to.
Just like democrats objected to arresting people who trespassed on January 6th literally months or years later, right?
Little to the right -
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Don't think that makes them as a "liars point of view" - unlike the Times who definitely is.
Without feeble , exaggerated , and misleading "whataboutism" I think MAGA would dry up and blow away.
It is the only thing fueling MAGA at this point.
Work to find ways around their whataboutism bull. It is possible, because context matters.
For example, An elected mayor, standing on federal property, who did not respond violently, who did not resist arrest, but removed himself from federal property as instructed, is no way shape, form, or fashion the same as people who trespassed into our nation's capitol building - partially trashing the place, taking unto themselves powers that they did not posses by touching official congressional documents, machines, and other paraphernalia even as the legislators, themselves, were in full session carrying out one of the most significant perfunctory acts of their office with clear constitutional mandate with the Vice-president in attendance.
Anybody saying the two situations are the same is a fool and a liar. Call it out!
It must be frustrating that such arguments confound you because so many progressives lack any other principle than political expediency.
So what? Do you imagine laws don't appply to mayors? Did you forget your "no one is above the law" talking point so soon? By all means, show us the legal powers that a mayor has to break the law on federal property.
ho did not respond violently, who did not resist arres
As if that mattered when J6 trespassers were prosecuted. Didn't keep them out of jail.
- partially trashing the place, taking unto themselves powers that they did not posses by touching official congressional documents, machines, and other paraphernalia even as the legislators, themselves, were in full session carrying out one of the most significant perfunctory acts of their office with clear constitutional mandate with the Vice-president in atten
What does that have to do with people who went to jail on J6 despite doing none of those things? The mayor broke the law. It's on tape. Treat the mayor the exact same as those whose only crime on January 6th was non violent trespassing.
It's sad, but not surprising, the shallow commitment to the rule of law on display from those apologizing for the mayor and the even more egregious acts by the deranged congressmen. Full of excuses they would never apply to those whose politics they don't like.
Your arguments are the broken record of all broken records. The idea that an abomination like Trump can be excused by anything Democrats have done is dishonest and frankly depressing.
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Trespassing is a misdemeanor offense that carries a maximum punishment of up to 30 days in prison and a fine of $500. And it will be determined by a judge. It is notable that the mayor was released without bail.
And for the record, our mayors (within the city of their jurisdiction) are dignitaries , raised up to protect and serve the ordinary rights of people. While it is unclear who is telling the whole truth here. . . for example, how long was the mayor on federal property AFTER being asked to leave it? Or, how many times he was asked to leave federal property before he stepped onto city property. . . it goes without a long 'debate' that we do not wish our elected officials to be treated disrespectfully, without value, or with indecency, or suffering injury or death delivered from the hands of other elected officials in-charge.
Because as we well know, those federal officials have to traverse local, city, and state routes, streets, and shops to get to their multiple and practical destinations too. No need for 'tit or tat.' Power resisting power— especially if the governor gets involved .
So I will not accept a mealy-mouth statement like, a federal law of trespassing on federal property, in and of itself, rises to the level of arresting and removing elected officials from a city 'street' address.
There is plenty to be said for tact and discretion in such matters.
Unless the federal government is willing to declare political warfare on its state and local officials. . .for some short-term, short-sighted, gain. No one wins when that occurs.
As for the congress people present and engaged in this scenario. I can not make out who is dong precisely what from the video. I will say this: Congress people are elected officials who should know how to react in a situation. Thus, I say let them explain themselves (for the actions I can't see in the video clips), and if that does not serve them sufficiently in a court of law. . . then, let the outcome produce itself .
As for "J6" trepassers, there is no comparison to what those who acted in the capitol building with what occurred in this incident. Because there is technical trespassing and there is violent, degrading, demoralizing, and injurious trespassing (leading to a death inside the capitol building). So this "J6" obsession of MAGAs has no place in this discussion. Let it be discussed on its own merits.
Wow. That mirror image crap ain't working on anybody. That said, I guess we will have to show that is not working. Shame too to waste so much time. Nobody is going to let MAGA win with bull and a pretense - so keep sharing, we're keep explaining where MAGA is wrong. And why we are right.
Because a vehicle was entering. He and his thugs tried to enter with it.
You ought to get out more often. Wherever you are getting your news from is not a good place to get your news from. They get the facts wrong all of the time.
Gee Thomas, if I get out much more, I won't have any time for the internet whatsoever.
Wherever you are getting your news from is not a good place to get your news from.
And here I thought I was reviving the legacy of Edward R Murrow.
They get the facts wrong all of the time.
You mean the New Jersey protests, in which 2 more people were arrested for trespass again last night, were gentle & harmless?
That is shocking.
Do you mean the members of the clergy who were peacefully protesting?
I don't recall clergy members being arrested. I did note a few women dressed as Priests. You do know that there is no such thing in the Catholic Church, right?
did note a few women dressed as Priests
I don’t know the denomination of these ladies but it would not surprise me if they were Episcopalian. See if they would do this if it were white South Africans incarcerated.
My guess, and I am usually correct, is it is a big no.
It was an ecumenical and interfaith gathering. Some faiths are obviously more broad in their definitions of who can lead congregants than Catholics. Most people show more deference to the callers to the sky faeries, but hey, there is no accounting for taste. It does not matter though because they were a peaceful group using nonviolent protest methods.
DHS obviously lied, yet you cling to this sinking administrations ship of state as it reveals itself as what it truly is: Just another way to fleece the people of America and the world for the enrichment of those who don't need it.
I don't think there is much sympathy for them. There are many black South Africans who might want to come here simply for a better life. About 40% of them are in poverty. I wonder if that might move the needle for South Africans seeking refuge.
My guess, and I am usually correct, is it is a big no.
Well done.
That is a unique way of saying that you think religious people are nuts, but the rest of us should listen to them when they support the right cause. I don't think you can have it both ways.
DHS obviously lied.
A trial would determine that. You see, I believe in due process.
I think that everyone is nuts, so that has little to do with anything. Who/what others pray or not to does not enter into my calculus. Other people do, however, lay import as to the religious beliefs of others, specifically the leaders of their faiths. Some of these leaders are people who feel motivated to speak as representatives of their faiths, and as such wish to be seen and witnessed. So this gathering of presumably multiple religious leaders of multiple faiths was meant to show solidarity between the faiths against a common cause. But you already new that.
You mean you don't believe your eyes? A trail is necessary to determine what is obvious?
Oh please oh please oh please.
The comments on this article are revealing. I won't forget what I have read.
And well you shouldn't.
someone on twitter pointed out how badly bodycams have backfired on the libs. In general, they've shown how restrained cops are in the face of rabid provocation and in this case, the cams demonstrate conclusively what liars the Democrats in Congress are with their bogus claims of being assaulted. Expulsion from Congress should be considered.
He was told to leave or he would be arrested, so he did. Then the agents came out of the area which he was told to leave and into public property. He complied with their directive and was still arrested.
The promotion of the idea that someone should be expelled from Congress for attempting to stop an apparently illegal arrest should cause shame on most thinking adults. Unfortunately, it arrives as no surprise at all from someone who has lost their moral bearings.
Prove the arrest was illegal?
Maybe try with showing the entire incident instead of just the last 1:46 of it?
Also prove this whole thing wasn't a publicity stunt by the Mayor.
It's clearly obvious that the protestors started the pushing and shoving. Body cams don't lie.
I did watch it, and from several angles. Why don't you post something to prove what you say is true?
You prove the arrest of the mayor was not a public stunt! Because it sure looks like it, since he was allowed to leave federal property and was arrested while standing on city property.
What was the provocation here?
Trying to assert rule of law on a bully.
They're arresting judges, they're arresting mayors, maybe if the pope comes here and says something unflattering to Trump about immigration he will get marched away in handcuffs too.
And the expiration date on the "everyone is equal under the law" talking point has expired.
Everyone is equal under the law. Just remember that when the time comes for what will amount to 'payback' or 'back-lash' or whatsoever it will be called when happening! Two can play that 'game,' albeit it will make this country look small and petty to an onlooking world. A world that for whatever reason had thought we were such a better country than their own nations-now see how 'ordinary' and lacking in exceptionalism we are.) The façade is cracking and on its way down to the dirt!
You mean Democrats will arrest Republican presidential candidates and charge them under theories no one has been convicted of ever before and spend years hunting down trespassers and imprisoning them while intervening to ensure terrorists who throw Molotov cocktails at cop cars during Democrat approved riots are treated with leniency? That sort of backlash?
It's like you've forgotten what happened during 2021-2025.
No. I mean going forward 'karma, can be a bitch.' So, just keep it up. It's all being recorded either way. And, in the end, we will see who can play it best! It would make better sense for everybody to drop their 'stones' and try to be civil with one another, nevertheless!
That said, it is what it is! Nobody is going to just let themselves be mistreated because one side wants to play 'tit-for-tat' over and against being right or Wrong!
He was lucky. If he wasa conservative and it was the last administration they would have shot him ala Ashley B..
MAGA seems to wish to fan the embers of violence retribution in this country.
There is plenty of evidence to display that these two situations are not equal, locations are not the same, different jurisdictions, differing personalities, departments, city and state policies and rules, and policing and jurisprudence to take under consideration. But, of course, MAGAs would love to ignore all that (even though they use those same rationales to get away with mistreatments of citizens in red states) just to persist in political 'combat.' Well, it does not work in courts and it does not work on NT!
Sure, sure, and where were they going to stash his body? In the pizza parlor child sex dungeon basement? That must be where all the bodies are stashed that the Clintons had killed too!
Conservative comments are often so deranged and unhinged they would be really funny if I didn't think they were actually being serious.
The "last administration" was not in power on J6! And the unfortunate A. Babbitt was not shot because she was a conservative. She was shot because she attempted to breach a federally secured (barricaded) room in the United States Capitol where representatives of our representative democracy were hunkered down and secured during an overrunning of the capitol grounds and office spaces.
Actually it was. Power did not change until January 20
Then, your comment at 11 "He was lucky. If he was a conservative and it was the last administration they would have shot him ala Ashley B." - does not have any basis. The Biden Administration has assumed no responsibility for anybody getting shot in the Capitol.
Another case of a bad whataboutism.
She got what she deserved.
Wasn't Trump's father arrested at a racist KKK rally? Republicans always make a bigger deal if someone of color is arrested for anything even when innocent.
The Mayor and Congressional representatives are allowed to visit so the escalation was unnecessary.
If this location isn't up to code, doesn't have the proper permits, doesn't meet with city ordinance, then the mayor has every right to address it, the blatant unnecessary use of force was for show and intimidation.
Pretty accurate statement:
They could not make it any clearer that they're pro-illegal immigration, pro-illegal immigrant, anti-law enforcement, and anti-deportation.
If you want to destroy America, those are the best policies.
It's also total bullshit. Liberals, progressives, Democrats of all stripes love America, they just don't want to live under the disgusting religious conservative racist white nationalist America that the MAGAites want. Democrats want immigration reform that creates a realistic pathway to citizenship as well as a transparent review of asylum requests that is faster and fairer.
We know why MAGAites scream and rage and lie about immigration policies Democrats support, and it's not because Democrats want "open borders", it's because Democrats support the immigrant populations that are here and they know the current immigration system is broken and Republicans refuse to work with them to fix it to be something fair and give opportunities for immigrants still wanting to come here legally.
The problem is that conservatives have a deep corrosive underbelly of racism in their party that they actively try to obfuscate so they scream about drugs and criminals and rapists when what they're really pissed off about is what they see as the browning of their white Christian nation, they just can't come out and say that. So instead, they're stuck screaming in rage about the very tiny percentage of undocumented immigrant drug runners, gang members and rapists among the undocumented immigrant population.
Every Democrat I've ever seen or heard has been against the drug traffickers, gang members and rapists, they're just not willing to lump 11 million other people who are just seeking a better life or trying to escape gang violence in with the small percentage of true criminals. When you point this out however, the bigots just scream about how they're all criminals because they're here illegally.
And when you point out that for most of them as a first offense it is considered a misdemeanor no different than a speeding ticket, it's not a felony, that just loops the bigots back to saying even one undocumented immigrant raping a woman (we all know what skin color female these bigots are imagining) is too many. And we're back to Democrats looking for real immigration reform and the rightwing conservative MAGAites raging about gang member rapists so they don't expose their racist underbelly.
Emphatically. MAGAites come here and code-talk alot. We know it and need to expose them when they do.
Which is absolutely true. A criminal is someone who broke the law. Too many illegal have done exactly that. Then there are too many that come here and been found to have been deported several times in the past so have actually committed a felony.
Code talk? Similar to what you do when you stereotype everyone who disagrees with you as a Magite? Is that what you are claiming?
Lol. what a ridiculous strawman. The lies some democrats tell themselves.
nd it's not because Democrats want "open borders
Are you saying they are such gigantic fools then? That they don't want open borders but support the policies that create them out of their own ignorance? I at least give Democrats credit for knowing what they are doing.
Code-talk? Really? That's hilarious.
I would be more plain with my terms, but then it potentially will cause a moderation issue.
And I would be more direct with individual commenters but it potentially would be considered a taunt. Thus, I speak generally to all MAGAites. ( You misspelled MAGAite in your comment.)
It would be shall we say more. . . "accommodating" if you would identify your specific political stance and not leave it up to others to discern for themselves. But, alas, no 'help' from you on that is expected.
Really. I didn't stutter. Don't try to gaslight me,as I am well beyond anything like that. Your laughter is wasted on me. Yes! MAGAites come here and code-talk and worse 'empty out' their loaded word 'cart' even.
Not sure if I'd call it "code-talk" but it certainly is virtue signaling in a way that obfuscates their true purpose. They will scream and deny till they're red in the face that their true motives are deeply rooted in the racist hate towards Hispanics, but it's made all too obvious when rational immigration reform is proposed that would allow for an increase of legal Hispanic immigrants and asylum seekers from Mexico and South America.
First, it's all about "Argh! The legality! They're illegals! They're criminals!"
Then when a pathway to citizenship is proposed that would streamline the process and allow for an increased number of immigrants to come here legally, they start whining about resources and jobs and the language barrier and anything else they can think of to stop any more brown people from, what they see as, invading 'their' white Christian nation. And when you point out that legal immigrants actually create jobs and help the US economy, they loop back around to racistly accusing them all of being watermelon calved drug running cartel rapists.
Elimination of 'DEI" is code-talking by white supremacists to resist equality for minorities and not include the Other. "America First" is code-talking for 'Whiteness' as a standard for the country and conservative Christian ideology. "Colorblindness" is code-talk for disarming minority people groups in our country from seeking higher placement by making them mindful of a given "value" as second-class citizens under a white majority.
Perfect. Anyone who opposes the government engaging in racial discrimination is a white supremacist. It's quite a racket you have going.
ALthough I'm not sure how the minorities who oppose DEI feel about being called white supremacists.
You need a new decoder ring. The one giving you all the "code talking" is full of shit
MAGA is not against racial discrimination. Your mention of the very thing, is an example of code-talking. Because if you were against racism you would be keen to promote the constitutional provision to give migrants in this country due process—MAGAites do not wish to see that happen. Because it would create an environment where the migrants' complaints for why they are here would have to be listened to and 'heard' by unbiased judges following the rule of law. And yet, we can fly in South Africans due to a conspiracy 'theory' that they are being killed (in their home country) because they are White (and not due to some other rationale). Also, Errol Musk, a South African, and father of Elon Musk - literally escaped the United States in the early 2000's and returned to South Africa where he is today. . . doing an interview where he says ACTUALLY there is no genocide in South Africa. But, he must not know what you know, or don't you don't care to know that about his home.
As for minorities that selfishly forget that they are standing on the shoulders of freedom fighters (White and minority both) when they support white supremacy, all I can hope for is they stop PISSING down on their predecessors' heads.'
That comment is weak and does not land. Do not try to bait me.
By the way, anytime you wish to have a proper (substantial) 'talk' about DEI. . . I am easy to find. But shallow-talk or long interludes will wilt the narrative!
The comment is accurate.
Why? Does your 'ring' say something positively different? Let's test that (and see how substantially far we can get in discussion too): What is the in-use meaning of "patriot" to conservatives?
What do you call them? Friend?
I wish my ring told me to wake up....
In use meaning of patriot to conservatives?
While your decoder ring on "conservatives" probably meets my definition of MAGA, both of their definitions probably include armaments , bulging muscles, and an insane amount of flaggot imagery....
Well since Right Down the Center has removed himself from this timely discussion: I would like to 'say': Patriotism for (MAGA) conservatives is actually nationalism and has an "us versus them" world view. Nationalism is allegiance to one's own tribe.
Patriotism is loyalty for one's country and love for (all) its people.
(Credit: Steven B. Smith -'Reclaiming Patriotism in an Age of Extremes.)
You didn't make a single bit of sense either.
Meh. Well, since we are done here. Moving on.
Who are 'they'? If the statement refers to the Democratic representatives, the statement is false on its face. The fact you think it is true, even after given the ensuing time since the incident to update your views on what happened to conform with reality, you persist in calling the quoted statement accurate even though it is most certainly not, does not reflect well on your critical thinking skills.
I asked ChatGPT for the laws regarding Congressional Oversight Authority.
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The fact that this administration cares so little for appearances that it would blatantly lie to its constituents while there exists proof that they are in fact lying should concern you. There are multiple videos and accounts of people who were there that prove there was no storming of anything.
No links to anything. Just that you asked AI. No mention of scheduling, coordination, security protocol, nothing. And you think that is how it's done because ChatGPT told you?
You are more than welcome to refute it. I don't think that you can. The two people who voted you up can try also. Why don't you try?
Oh.
Because you all cannot refute it. So Hahahahahahaha back at you.
Refute what? Your opinion?
Refute what chat GPT said.
Yes. That is primarily what we do on this site. You insinuated that the information that I posted was not valid due to the fact that my source for the information was ChatGPT. I claim that the information contained in my post is accurate and factual. It is up to you to demonstrate that it is not so. Otherwise, it stands asserted as factual.
Respond with a refutation or else you're just trolling.
There is nothing wrong with using Chat GPT as a source.
They are far more reliable than your average Trump administration member.
Of course "oversight" doesn't mean you can assault ICE security guards whenever you want. How can anyone say that with a straight face? You and CHATGPT are stealing so many bases with your dishonest framing.
They have to coordinate inspections with with ICE. They can show up and demand access and then will be allowed allowed in when safe and it won't interfere with operations.
The absurdity of thinking being in Congress allows them to do whatever they want, whenever they want, including assaulting LEOs just by claiming "oversight" might be one of the more ludicrous claims yet.
Your opinion? You're welcome to it.
So you are just trolling. Got it.
Show me where anybody assaulted an ICE guard. I would contend that the ICE personnel were the initial aggressors on May 9th.
How do you sleep at night knowing that your intellectual dishonesty is written large on these pages? I am not the one dishonestly framing this event. You are.
They do not have to coordinate their inspections with ICE.
They did wait. Don't you know this? Research helps.
It's right there on video. This is starting to be "Biden is fine" all over again
hey do not have to coordinate their inspections with ICE
Literally the first sentence:
They obviously did not comply with instructions when they assaulted the ICE agents and bum rushed the gate.
hey did wait. Don't you know this? Research helps.
Try reading what I wrote again and responding to it.
See #9.1
From your link:
The NJ Mayor is NOT a congressional member delegate or staff delegate. That makes it a "MIXED GROUP". Your own link is why they were denied access. Now lets talk about the cell phone video. From your link:
IT appears somebody attempted to take a recording device into the facility. By your link, that is not permitted.
YOU provided reasons why they were denied entry. What you haven't provided is why they assaulted the officers.
Yeah, your nonsese, as expected, is wrong.
Then there is from you:
You disprove that in #13.2.9 and I point it out line by line in #13.2.11 .
So what were you saying about intellectual dishonesty?
Once again with your dishonest framing of events.
Show me where in the video they rushed the gate. Post it. Right here. Right in your comment if possible. You can't, because they didn't.
Twist in the wind. That says "on site". The arrest was made in the public right of way. They told the mayor to leave OR he would be arrested. He complied. He left. The detention personnel closed the gate. Then the detention personnel came through the gate onto the public right of way. They were no longer on site.
And, if you read beyond that first sentence (The emphasis is mine):
Show me where in the video they rushed the gate. Post it. Right here. Right in your comment if possible.
That shows the mayor trying to gain entry into the facility. When he is refused entry and told to leave or get arrested, he leaves and the facility personnel close the gate. The members of congress then left the facility proper and went out to bodily surround the mayor when it became apparent that the facility personnel were going to try to arrest him. In order to get to the mayor, the facility personnel had to physically remove (ie. assault) members of congress and others. They did not have the authority to arrest him after he complied with their order to leave. He was not fleeing arrest, he was standing in the public right of way.
You are really confused about this event. The members of Congress were not denied access. The mayor was. The Congressional members got in. Get your facts straight. The video in 9.1 is body camera footage released by the government.
The members of Congress were not denied entry. They were assaulted outside the facility though. I believe the New York Pos t or maybe News 12 has video footage from the outside.
I would suggest you don't embarrass yourself any more.
First off, both the quote citing 5 U.S.C. § 2954 from ChatGPT and the direct quote you provide say substantially the same thing. The difference is ChatGPT paraphrased it and provided commentary.
AS for the rest of your comment see 13.2.13 .
Shhhh! Some here may enjoy watching conservatives embarrass themselves. What's even funnier is when they don't even realize they've embarrassed themselves and are still just standing there looking all confused while pretending to be so sure of themselves.
Unlike you, I looked up the regulation. Even provided a link to it. Maybe try doing some research. I read the link you provided. BOTH debunk the bullshit you are pushing. And that is not my problem.
Wrong. I did look it up.
Here's a fucking lolly-pop. Good boy.
I have spent hours on this topic alone. You spew bullshit and I correct it. Your research is woefully inadequate if it leaves you with the impression that you are even close to the truth.
So this claim:
is false. And If you believe that your claim is true, then that is most certainly and by definition, your problem.
And still put up and are defending the wrong information.
I have the correct information, you just refuse to believe the correct information because the federal government is lying to you. You would rather look foolish in front of the whole world than admit the government, and your party, your news sources, even your friends are all lying to you. MAGA, where the truth goes to die.
Not sure if the truth 'goes' there willingly. It's more of the truth getting jumped in a back ally, hogtied, taken back to their rightwing religious conservative compound, threatened, and when the truth refuses to change, they slit its throat and replace it with what they think no one will notice isn't the real truth waving its arms in friendly welcome...
"I'm the truth! Yes I am!"