The Big, Beautiful Breakup
What happens when two huge egos collide?
We have what truly is America's great hope for the restoration of an exceptional civilization at odds with America's greatest innovator. That disagreement imploded in public yesterday. It began with Elon Musk's frustration over President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill adding to the deficit, which Musk worked so tirelessly and at great personal cost on reducing. Both men brought the brawl to their own personal social media sites. From there it got ugly. In this morning's dishonest New York Times there is a segment titled "read all of the insults here. " Those who hate the country are lapping it up.
It was only one week ago that Elon Musk was given a golden key to the White House. Things went off the rails rather quickly. One has to wonder if there isn't something personal involved. The President has threatened to end all subsidies granted to Musk companies. Musk's companies have performed well. In the opinion of this reporter SpaceX has performed better than its government counterpart (NASA.) Will the left once again embrace Musk now that he has stood toe to toe with the man they hate? I don't think so. People are very disposable to the left. At any rate both men deserve our gratitude.
In other news:
Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced new sanctions Thursday on four judges of the International Criminal Court, two of whom voted to authorize an ICC investigation of U.S. military actions in Afghanistan and two who authorized arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant, the former Israeli defense minister.
Russia launched a barrage of missiles and drones across Ukraine, killing at least "4 people" and damaging buildings in Kyiv.
Israel has been collaborating with an anti-Hamas Palestinian militia in Gaza as part of a broader effort to fight Hamas in the enclave.
Trump and Xi Jinping spoke on the phone. Trump called it a “very positive” conversation, and the U.S. and China agreed to hold more Trade talks.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the health secretary, said he wanted to expand access to “experimental,” unproven medical treatments like stem-cell and chelation therapies.
The SCOTUS decided 6 cases, (3 unanimously.) More to come next week.
A federal judge temporarily blocked the Trump administration’s latest effort to prevent Harvard from enrolling international students.
Trump’s new Travel Ban appears to be airtight from legal challenges.
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Good morning and welcome to the news.
It was 81 years ago today that the US landed troops in France and began the final phase of World War II.
The D-Day invasion ( Associated Press)
It was a war between the first world's industrial powers. It ended with the total defeat of Nazism, Imperialism and Fascism. In its wake rose the consequences of Communism and Socialism and the constant nuclear threat.
uh, ... not so much in DC lately.
So let's play a game of "prove it".
Leave out "orange man bad" hyperbole and feelings.
The Monthly Jobs Report:
"Hiring remained steady in May and the unemployment rate was unchanged in a crucial economic report as some worried that heightened uncertainty amid President Trump’s tariffs would start to hit jobs.
US employers added 139,000 jobs last month, slightly above expectations of 125,000, the Labor Department said Friday."
US adds 139K jobs in May as hiring remains steady despite tariff uncertainty
Hourly earnings increase +4%, "MUCH better than expected!"
Prices are down - LIE
Our border is closed - LIE
Gasoline is cheap - LIE
Inflation is dead - LIE
Maybe he can do like the Biden supporters and tell working people that things are great, and you people just don't understand.
True. Prove otherwise
Maybe he can do like Biden and let the professionals tell people what the conditions are like.
Prove that the border is not closed?
In April 2025, the Border Patrol recorded 8,383 apprehensions at the southwest border, with 906 classified as at large
In May 2025, Border Patrol agents intercepted roughly 10,000 illegal migrants
From your link:
I'm not sure you're helping your cause.
Did you even bother the reading the claim I am responding to? Apparently not.
If the border were closed, there would be 0 illegal border crossings.
Of course.
I suspected that's what you meant. I was hoping you weren't going to try to pursue such a ridiculously silly line of argument.
No, that is what Vic said and what Greg challenged me to disprove !!
So, your only argument is that Vic didn't say what Vic said ....???
The 'argument', in as much as their is one, is that defining a "closed" border as "zero crossings" is an idiotic standard that demonstrates how correct they are and makes liberals as a whole look terrible.
If that's the best point you have on the subject, you should leave it alone.
Which of these doors are closed?
Truth of the matter is that Vic said the border was "CLOSED". Not partially closed. Not less open. He said "CLOSED".
And now all the MAGA brains are exploding trying to find a way to spin out of his claim. The only thing you cannot conceive of is saying that "VIC WAS WRONG".
You can claim that there are fewer illegal crossings, and would have the evidence to support that.
You can claim that it is not as open. While that will be more difficult to prove, you would at least be able to provide some facts to support that claim.
As it is, you are trying to redefine the word "closed".
BUT YOU CANNOT CLAIM THE BORDER IS "CLOSED" WHILE STILL HAVING THOUSANDS OF ILLEGAL CROSSINGS!!
Joe Biden's legacy will be the 12 million people he allowed into the country and the approx. 500,000 of them who are crazies, criminals and terrorists now imbedded in America and who will be wreaking havoc on the country over the next few decades.
Gas is $4.70 a gallon here, that's not cheap.
You you can't support your claim and you can't refute what I said about your claim, so you fall back to a whataboutism. That is really sad on your part.
Where is here?
I've given you 3 links this week, each time backing up basic facts. Now it is your turn. You claim things are worse than they were under Biden. Now prove it.
What does that have to do with you whataboutism?
But I should congratulate you. 3 links in one week is a personal best for you, eclipsing your previous record. So, CONGRATULATIONS!!! We all knew with just a few years of trying you'd do it!!!
I'm glad to keep doing it.
Any thoughts?
Erin should get back to interviewing rugby players, it's where her personality belongs.
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First Ladies should be off limits, and this blonde woman is a complete bitch.
Perhaps you're right.
So whiny bitch complains about Michelle talking about the difficulties of being a first lady, of course this [ ✘ ] phrases it as "being married to a famous man".
It's fairly telling that this [ ✘ ] is complaining about Michelle just sharing some stories, I heard no "tragic" emotions or claims coming from Michelle, she's just talking about little moments that have happened in her life. So, what the fuck is the big deal? Oh yeah, that's right, she's the first black first lady and we saw the ugly face of racism that exists among many conservative communities in America. They depicted Obama as a gorilla in political cartoons, Michelle a black panther militant, claimed she was a man because she has bigger biceps than most of these pasty weak little wimp fuckers that crawl on their bellies hissing like the little racist snakes they are.
Here's the conservatives favorite NY Post from back then:
Stay classy conservatives! You always do! /s Oh, and tell us that hilarious story again about how all the racist white conservative Southern Democrats died off or moved out of the former confederate States allowing all the totally not racist white conservative Southern Republicans to move into their homes, jobs, courthouses and police departments along with local and national representatives. It's the Houdini trick of the century! How did they do it you ask? They'll never tell!
But please, clearly suffering malnutrition and apparent dumpster diver for food white blonde, please do tell us how pompous, haughty and out of touch Michelle Obama is. /s
You are not a reporter.
That is something that Edward R Murrow used to say. I'm doing a bit of role playing as I try and get some actual news onto this site.
can you do a patriotic american that believes in defending the constitution also?
Musk said yesterday that Trump should be impeached. Sounds like quite a bit of news there. Dont see that in your article though.
I leave that to Donald Trump.
Two men trash talking? No that is not what I consider news fit for the front page.
As I pointed out The News York Times is full of that kind of gossip.
When Trump first appointed Elon, I remember saying "this won't last XX months". I don't remember if I said 4 months or 6 months.
Correct answer was 5, so I was obviously wrong either way.
he fails on both counts ...
Adam "shitty" Schiff said he had unequivocal evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, but yet, when he never provided that "proof" you never said that was news.
I wonder what the difference is s/
Is that why he got elected despite all the shit done to him and all the money and bs used to stop him?
Conservative voices are rallying around the cause today, announcing with a desperate hope that the cataclysm is behind us this morning, and everything can go back to what it was 24 hours ago or a week ago.
I'd like to ask Elon Musk a few questions, the most telling being "You tweeted that Trump should be impeached. Why should he be impeached? No backtracking, no rephrasing, you said he should be impeached, tell everyone why."
A question for Trump - "You strongly implied that there is waste and insider politics in Musk's contracts with the government and we would be better off as a nation if his government contracts are cancelled. Specify this waste and any insider advantage that was bestowed on him."
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The GOP will try to rewind and erase recent history, but the allegations they made about each other are pieces of information with a life of their own.
If it is tawdry gossip you like, maybe we could discuss all the buzz surrounding the Obama marriage.[✘]
There is one thing that is as constant as spring storms on this site. Someone will say something to you that damages your false narratives, and you will reply with a non-sequitur.
That is a very silly statement. I have had one here who on three separate occasions asked me to prove something. He immediately got those links, but the odd thing was that those were facts that everyone should have known. Many still live in denial.
You just responded to a comment about Musk saying Trump should be impeached with some nonsense about Michele Obama. You can run but you cant hide.
The hypocrisy is on full display and surprises no one, So now we trust what Musks says because he is telling you something you want to hear?
Nonsense deserves to be responded to with nonsense.
You continue to hang onto nonsense. Yesterday you again raised the time Trump asked Russia to turn over what they knew about the Hillary e-mails that she improperly had on a private server and criminally destroyed. As always twisting a statement to a ridiculous meaning. This site is called Newstalkers. The topic should be news, not gossip nor slander nor leftist ideology.
Musk is a beloved figure among MAGA. Many of them consider him to be a patriotic genius. Why should his announcement that Trump should be impeached be considered to be nonsense?
Talk about delusional.
You really don't know that answer?
It is an emotional outburst. Just like all the members here using the word "fascist."
Another buzzword featured all too often on this site.
"House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) issued a subpoena on Thursday for testimony from former President Biden’s White House doctor, Kevin O’Connor."
House Oversight Chair James Comer subpoenas Joe Biden's White House doctor
"Ibram X. Kendi’s Center for Antiracist Research is set to shutter at the end of June following a deluge of reporting on alleged financial mismanagement , poor leadership, and low research output. Similar academic centers hosted on college campuses across the United States share many of the same struggles that Kendi’s ill-fated venture at Boston University endured.
A Washington Examiner review of public records found that antiracism centers at five major universities received generous financial support following the 2020 racial justice movement but have little to show for it in the way of published academic papers or event programming. Even at centers where funds appear to have led to considerable research output, internal strife calls into question the validity of their work."
What a shame for those who thought racism could be defeated by more racism.
Kendi's entire schtick will be one of those things people shake their heads over in 20 years. How could anyone fall for that??
As we all know, some did.
Did you read his book? I'll post excerpts from it if you like.
Post the part where he justifies endless racism to make up for past racism.
Breaking:
"Congressman Chip Roy (R-TX) has introduced legislation to MAKE DOGE PERMANENT by giving Congress permanent & effective tools to go after waste, fraud, and abuse in our government in real time."
Chip Roy moves to hand Congress radical new DOGE powers after Elon Musk exit | Fox News
I'll have to file that away for a future article entitled: "In memory of Elon."
I think this should always have been part of Congress. After all they control the federal checkbook and it only makes sense (yeah, I know. sense in Washington) that Congress should have the power to audit the federal government to insure the money being spent is proper and to eliminate as much as possible the waste and fraud that occurs. But as we should all be able to agree, this is akin to asking the fox to guard the chicken coop.
Even the Republican fiscal Conservative die-hards have to always remember what Obama set in motion. Do you remember when his budget priority was to spend $2 on social programs for every $1 spent on defense? That meant that the next Republican President would be faced with either rebuilding the military or to continue the slide.
Republicans are always going to want to spend on their own projects and priorities despite wanting to balance the budget and that is exactly where we are today.
Once upon a time there was a thing call "Congressional Oversight". That's how Harry S. Truman made the headlines. What's Chip Roy gonna do, create another independent agency like the EPA? Look how that turned out.
Congress already has permanent and effective tools to go after waste, fraud, and abuse. There's no way Chip Roy can give Congress the balls to do their jobs with legislation.
As I recall, the last time we had a balanced budget it took a lot more than just balls. We had an economy still growing from Reaganomics with more revenue and we had a democrat President make a deal with a Republican Speaker which involved no new spending and no new taxes.
The increased FICA taxes on working people, passed by Reagan, and the heartless scapegoating of damned gubmit workers and shady accounting tricks to take credit for raising taxes on working people by Clinton helped more than a little in creating an illusion of fiscal responsibility.
Reaganomics is responsible for 97% of the national debt. Only 3% of the national debt can be attributed to the first 200 year history of the United States. That's a fact, not a talking point.
Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton did 'turn around' the US economy. Today our currency has so little value that the United States cannot afford to manufacture pennies. Why is that a good thing? The value of the penny falling to one third the value of metals it's made of doesn't show that Free Trade and Reaganomics has been kind to the United States.
Reaganomics proved that the only way to obtain a balanced budget is tax increases. You've inadvertently pointed that out. Reagan and Clinton got away with raising taxes on working people while catering to millionaires. And today the penny has less value than the metals its made of. So what did the working class get for those increased taxes?
That power should be vested in Congress.
There is at least a 70% chance that the legislation in question will not do that effectively, and a 99% chance such powers will never be used appropriately.
I think both you and Nerm are probably right. Legislation is one thing and the will to do it is another.
The name of Musk's space company is SpaceX, not Starlink. The author should issue a correction. SpaceX has been pursuing government contracts, not national priorities. Based on it's short history, SpaceX wastes just as much tax money as does NASA.
Trump's US Space Force was being positioned to address the national security aspects of US interests in space. NASA has been quietly pushed aside in the national security arena. While the media is focusing attention on Tesla, one of the larger frictional issues may be Trump's inclusion of space activities in the Big Beautiful Bill. That's something that hasn't received any attention by MSM reporting. Musk is obviously interested in dominating the US space transportation market as in dominating the EV market. Musk would have known about the changes to EV policy (unless he was too lost in a drugged haze). Musk's heartburn over the Big Beautiful Bill may have more to do with space related funding than with anything else. I seriously doubt that Musk would complain about deficits if he were getting a share.
don't hold your [breath,..][✘]
I doubt the TDS inspired 'Resistance' would even notice since they're laser focused on the Epstein files. Those pussy grabbin' headlines will capture the attention on the left end of the dirty stick.
highlighting traditional christo-fascist family values towards sex trafficked children is fair in cultural warfare ...
Better yet, it is innuendo rather than verified fact. Did Bill Clinton not have sex with that woman, Melania?
The name of Musk's auto company will soon be changed from Tesla to X_Tesla.
Betcha BYD would jump at the chance to buy Tesla. And Elon Musk would be happy to sell. Money is money, after all.
Why, they outsell Tesla with a vehicle just as good if not better?
BYD wants to get into the US market. Buying (and keeping) the Tesla badge would allow that. That's what happened to Dodge/Chrysler.
Done.
SpaceX wastes just as much tax money as does NASA.
Even when SpaceX can retrieve a rocket rather than only using it once? Even when Space X uses contractors that don't overcharge?
I seriously doubt that Musk would complain about deficits if he were getting a share.
You may be right, but just maybe Musk has earned a share. It was the Musk satellite info that helped the Ukrainians:
"Elon Musk has said the Starlink satellite internet system deployed in Ukraine has so far resisted increasingly frequent Russian hacking attempts.
Musk, the CEO of U.S. space technology company SpaceX which operates the Starlink network, announced that Starlink was active in Ukraine back in February shortly after Russia launched its military invasion of the country.
Since then, Starlink has been used as a method of communication within Ukraine where domestic internet infrastructure may not be available due to the ongoing conflict.
Ukraine's Ministry of Health said in late March that 590 Starlink internet stations had been transferred to hospitals and healthcare facilities to help keep them connected."
Elon Musk Says Starlink Has Resisted Hacking Attempts From Russia 'So Far' - Newsweek
Retrieving fuel tanks costs money, too. Now if the idea was to jettison the engines and control equipment (the expensive stuff) for retrieval then that could be justifiable cost savings.
Musk's stupid rocket trick is being used to demonstrate a capability; it has nothing to do with saving money, efficiency, or productivity. Capturing a rocket requires a more sophisticated control system, dramatically increasing the complexity and the cost of the rocket. Musk is utilizing the same, tired, bogus trick of increasing the cost of the rocket to justify capture. Adding complexity increases the value of the rocket. That's a fairly common trick with military procurement. And for all we know, the Federal government has paid for the development of another cost overrun glitz and glamor techno trick.
The retro-rocket landing boosters are intended to demonstrate capability for a Mars mission. Landing rockets on Mars that can be used as habitat has been in NASA planning for decades. Trump has put the kybosh on a manned Mars mission which means Musk's self-landing rockets aren't needed. Apparently Trump listened to the standing Republican narrative that unmanned space missions are just as effective and cost a lot less.
StarLink is not the only space based communication service. HughesNet, Viasat, OneWeb, Telesat, Amazon's Project Kuiper, and several other businesses are currently in direct competition with StarLink. Ukraine could have tied into just about any communications network.
Musk is 6'2" but Trump claims to be 6'3"? Bull!
Ahh, but who has the younger wife?
"Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the health secretary, said he wanted to expand access to “experimental,” unproven medical treatments like stem-cell and chelation therapies."
One gets the feeling RFK jr was once a crash test dummy. Chelation is good for removing certain metals and that's about it: a recent 2024 article from McGill's Office for Science and Society:
I have my concerns with him as well. One thing he is absolutely right about is all the addictive fattening additives in US food.
Being right about one thing does not negate being wrong about everything else. Avoid the tactics of apologists and you too may enter the pantheon of the disinterested.
I didn't know he was wrong about everything else. I'm interested. Tell us about everything else he has spoken on.
If the clown in question had been appointed by Biden or Harris you would have apoplectic.
I guess you aren't going to tell me about all those other things he is wrong about. You had me so curious.
bull
Boys will be boys and other such "I've gotta bigger one than you" manly nonsense.