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The left's journalistic malpractice.

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  72 comments

The left's journalistic malpractice.
"This article has been updated to include information about Mohammed Zakaria al-Mutawaq, a child in Gaza suffering from severe malnutrition. After publication of the article, The Times learned from his doctor that Mohammed also had pre-existing health problems," the editors’ note stated.

I choose to verify news stories before I submit them on this site. Evidently I have done a good job, because although our majority left that resides here likes to complain about my news items, never has anyone been able to dispute anything I have listed as news. Such is not the case with legacy media & what was once mainstream media. There we find constant activism and retractions. I'd like to focus on two recent examples.

The first is the front-page misleading story from the New York Times dated July 25, 2025:

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The Times’ front-page headline: "Young, Old and Sick Starve to Death in Gaza: ‘There Is Nothing.’"

The photo’s caption noted the boy was "born healthy," and the accompanying story was a rant about the hunger crisis in Gaza reaching "new and astonishing levels of desperation" focused on Palestinians dying from starvation. The subject was Mohammed Zakaria al-Mutawaq, an 18-month-old whose father was "killed last October when he went out to seek food," according to the Times.  Those who follow the real news, quickly realized that Mohammed was the same boy who had previously been featured by other media outlets because he was living in Gaza with a significant preexisting disorder. After ignoring all the criticism for days, the Times finally added this note:

"This article has been updated to include information about Mohammed Zakaria al-Mutawaq, a child in Gaza suffering from severe malnutrition. After publication of the article, The Times learned from his doctor that Mohammed also had pre-existing health problems," the editors’ note stated. 

The misinformation was posted on the front page. The retraction was buried under a related story days later. Needless to say, I won't be giving them the Edward R Murrow Award.


Then we have the case of the over-the-top activist Jim Acosta.

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Former CNN activist Jim Acosta

What did he do?  He "interviewed" a dead teenager from the Parkland shooting. A grand exploitation of grieving family members and the dead. An AI version of a dead child was created. Decent people were furious.



For our friends on the left. That is what the President refers to as "Fake News."



In the real news:

An Israeli strike near a hospital in Gaza City killed four Al Jazeera "journalists." the network said. Israel said it targeted one of the men killed and claimed he was a Hamas fighter. He and Al Jazeera had denied that accusation.

Vice President JD Vance said the government is working to secure a meeting that would include President Trump, Zelensky and Putin.

The tech companies Nvidia and Advanced Micro Devices are expected to now pay the US government 15% of the money they make selling A.I. chips to China.

The government plans to temporarily reassign 120 F.B.I. agents in Washington to watch the DC area at night as part of Trump’s crackdown on street crime there.

Australia said it would recognize Palestinian statehood at the U.N. General Assembly next month.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Good morning to all our readers and all those who multi-task in the morning. 

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Welcome to the news.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

Wait for the hate from our friends on the left concerning this picture.

You know it's coming.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @1.1    last year

Couldn't care less about the picture. 

Karoline Leavitt is the Joseph Goebbels of our time. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    last year
Karoline Leavitt is the Joseph Goebbels of our time. 

Keep saying it 24/7 and maybe it might affect the midterms. Oh wait, Trump is doing something about that, isn't he?  He noticed that democrats have redistricted Republicans out of existence in 4 states and he is getting after red states to do the same. That may seal the deal in the midterms despite the propaganda.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    last year
Couldn't care less about the picture.

And yet, here you are. Commenting about the subject in the picture.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.3    last year

There is always a comparison to the Nazis and others wonder why there is so much violence.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.5  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    last year
Karoline Leavitt is the Joseph Goebbels of our time. 

So what is your proof of this.

Quote exact statements she has made that give a direct equality to Goebbels.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @1.1.5    last year

stop trolling

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.7  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.6    last year

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JohnRussell
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1.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @1.1.7    last year

She is a propagandist, and ONLY a propagandist. I am not going to waste another second discussing this with you. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.9  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.8    last year
She is a propagandist, and ONLY a propagandist.

YOU made the calim. YOU back it up.

Don't make bullshit claims without expecting to be called on them.........

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @1.1.9    last year

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    last year
Karoline Leavitt is the Joseph Goebbels of our time. 

That's one unfounded opinion

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.12  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    last year

"Karoline Leavitt is the Joseph Goebbels of our time."

You obviously have her confused with KJP.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    last year

Nah, that would be Karine Jean-Pierre in all her glory.    And we are still waiting for Psaki to “circle back” to that one …..

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    last year

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1.1.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.6    last year

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.15    last year

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Vic Eldred
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Snuffy
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2.1  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year

I listened to part of this on the drive home from a blood draw, I have two comments to make.

  1. I do wish that someone would write his speeches and be able to keep him to reading the speech rather than talking off the cuff. 
  2. I expect all sorts of law suits over this to challenge the constitutionality of this. The US Constitution created the District of Columbia as a 10 mile square district. Washington DC has a total area of 68.34 square miles. Is the federal control limited to only that 10 square miles? Secondly, there's the Home Rule Act passed by Congress in 1973. This gives some power to the citizens in DC allowing them to elect a mayor and city council to manage some stuff, but ultimate control resides in Congress. Wouldn't Congress need to overturn this act in order for Trump to manage the city as he wants to?

I wonder how many years this will be tied up in court? 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Snuffy @2.1    last year
I do wish that someone would write his speeches and be able to keep him to reading the speech rather than talking off the cuff. 

Amen. 

I expect all sorts of law suits over this to challenge the constitutionality of this.

It's probably going to work out like most things Trump.  What he promises verbally will be outrageous and unconstitutional, but what his people actually implement will be defensible legally.  There will still probably be lawsuits.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Snuffy @2.1    last year

He is safe with the 30 day intervention. It is after all a federal district. I think he only wants the 30 days to make his point.

As to the Home Rule Act, I think we can now see it as a total failure. The mayor keeps walking a line on this because the local activists want to defy Trump yet many of her citizens are afraid to walk the streets at night. Local laws have made it nearly impossible to prosecute minors. The left is arguing that crime stats have gone down, and we know we can't trust those stats anymore. Example A: A DC Police Commissioner, Michael Pulliam has been suspended for trying to alter the crime statistics for the city. 

The bottom line is that people can see Trump taking the heat to help protect the people of DC and tourists in the nation's Capitol. He doesn't need this fight, but he is fulfilling another promise. If there is to be court action, so be it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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TEHRAN, Iran — "Iranian authorities on Wednesday executed a man convicted of spying for Israel by passing on information about a nuclear scientist killed during the 12-day war with Israel in June, the judiciary said."

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“Roozbeh Vadi… was executed following judicial proceedings and confirmation of his sentence by the Supreme Court,” the judiciary’s Mizan Online website said, adding that the man had leaked information about a “nuclear scientist who was assassinated during the Zionist regime’s recent aggression.”

Iran executes man convicted of giving Israel details of assassinated nuclear scientist | The Times of Israel

 
 
 
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Sparty On
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4.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year

How can this be?     I thought Trump hated gay people.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @4.1    last year

That's two he appointed, so evidently he doesn't.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    last year
That's two he appointed, so evidently he doesn't

But the talking point that he does will continue

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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This is hilarious coming from the right considering it was the leader of rightwing media that lost the lawsuit and had to admit it knowingly lied to its viewers to push a bullshit Trump narrative and was fined nearly a billion dollars and admitted they aren't news; no reason to even expect their content to contain facts, they're just rightwing entertainment.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5    last year

I have no idea what that means, but are you up to admitting that what the New York Times and Jim Acosta did amounted to Journalistic malpractice?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    last year

"They're eating the cats and dogs"

is that one of the "news" stories you posted? 

Donald Trump says ridiculous, stupid, false, stuff every day. Never do we see any of it in your version of "the news". 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    last year
is that one of the "news" stories you posted? 

No, I didn't.

How about what I asked you?


 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    last year

How about what I asked you?  A presidential candidate said "they're eating the cats and dogs " during a presidential debate .  Somehow that was not "news" to you, or you presented it as the truth. You are not a newsman you are a far right propagandist. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.3    last year
How about what I asked you?

I answered you. I never posted that as news, nor do I think that is newsworthy.

Is that how you dodge my posting legitimate news stories?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    last year

You, on a daily basis , call yourself a newsman.  Then you say that when Trump said, without a trace of humor, "they're eating the cats and dogs"  , you say that was not news. 

This is why people laugh at you calling yourself a newsman. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.5    last year
You, on a daily basis , call yourself a newsman.

Yes, I do. For some reason you don't want to go near the news I post. Is there something you don't like about hard news.


Then you say that when Trump said, without a trace of humor, "they're eating the cats and dogs"  , you say that was not news. 

If I was going to cover quotes, I'd use Walter Winchell as my avatar.


This is why people laugh at you calling yourself a newsman. 

They don't laugh .... they hide...  hoping I'll slip off the page.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    last year
I have no idea what that means

Hmmm... you seem to pay so much attention to other news 

Fox News agreed Tuesday to pay Dominion Voting Systems nearly $800 million to avert a trial in the voting machine company’s lawsuit that would have exposed how the network promoted lies about the 2020 presidential election.

Speaking under oath, Murdoch confirmed the suggestion by a Dominion lawyer that Fox was "trying to straddle the line between spewing conspiracy theories on one hand, yet calling out the fact that they are actually false on the other."

Under oath, Murdoch concedes Fox stars 'endorsed' lies about 2020 election : NPR

Just read   U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's opinion , leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "

She wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."

The Legal Defense For Fox's Tucker Carlson: He Can't Be Literally Believed : NPR

I guess Fox's defense against journalistic malpractice is simply that they aren't journalists.

are you up to admitting that what the New York Times and Jim Acosta did amounted to Journalistic malpractice?

Saying a child had no preexisting conditions and then later admitting they had preexisting conditions that do not in ANY WAY change the fact that Gaza is in fact experiencing starvation. And at least they corrected the one small detail that really didn't matter in the first place, that's what responsible journalists do unlike the rightwing rags that print bullshit day and night but present it as "infotainment" so they can lie all they want to their poorly educated viewers.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.6    last year

I'm sure nobody here is old enough to remember Walter Winchell, but some may be just old enough to remember the TV series "The Untouchables," which ran from 1959 - 1963. Walter Winchell used to do the opening narration for each episode. Always starting with the place and time ... such as "Chicago ... 1929."

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The famous episode of Al Capone going to jail.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.7    last year
Fox News agreed Tuesday to pay Dominion Voting Systems nearly $800 million to avert a trial in the voting machine company’s lawsuit that would have exposed how the network promoted lies about the 2020 presidential election.

I did mention that in an opinion piece. That was a very important precedent.

Trump saw that and he went out and successfully sued ABC and CBS.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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5.1.10  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    last year

Cannot refute it so the insults are thrown out instead.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    last year
Donald Trump says ridiculous, stupid, false, stuff every day.

After the bullshit from the Biden administration you all are going to have to find something else to cry about. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.5    last year
This is why people laugh at you calling yourself a newsman. 

He’s not the one being laughed at.     At least not by thinking folks.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.13  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.5    last year
This is why people laugh at you calling yourself a newsman. 

There are a few I laugh at on here and he is not one of them. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.5    last year
This is why people laugh at you calling yourself a newsman. 

Who would these people be that you claim to be the spokesperson of?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.1.15  Sparty On  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.14    last year

The local left wing/progressive mafia

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.16  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sparty On @5.1.15    last year

Oh, the critical thinkers. S/

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.17  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.1.10    last year

That's when you know you've won.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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5.1.18  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.17    last year

Yep.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.2  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5    last year
admitted they aren't news

Just curious.....

When did they do this?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  bugsy @5.2    last year
When did they do this?

When the owner of the company admits that they "straddle the line between spewing conspiracy theories on one hand yet calling out the fact that they are actually false on the other." that is an admission that they are not news.

When their defense of Tucker Carlson was that people should recognize "the 'general tenor' of the show which should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses", that is an admission that they are not news.

Fox News admits they "spew" conspiracy theories and people should know from the 'tenor' of their shows that their hosts are not 'stating actual facts'. Why the fuck does anyone watch that shit? Oh, right, confirmation bias for dumb as rocks conservatives who don't want to think for themselves and would rather listen to conspiracy theories and lies because it keeps the biggest lie of all alive, that white conservative Christians are somehow superior to everyone else on the planet.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.2.2  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.1    last year

That sure was a lot to say that Fox never said they were not a news agency.

Maybe you can try again....or not.

"Fox News admits they "spew" conspiracy theories "

Maybe you can show where they have said this.

"their hosts are not 'stating actual facts'."

Many of their shows are opinion based, but I'm sure you believe everything CNN and MSDNC say on ALL of their shows are the gospel. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  bugsy @5.2.2    last year
" Fox News admits they "spew" conspiracy theories "

Well Murdoch did, and he basically was Fox News.

Speaking under oath, Murdoch confirmed the suggestion by a Dominion lawyer that Fox was "trying to straddle the line between spewing conspiracy theories on one hand, yet calling out the fact that they are actually false on the other ."

Under oath, Murdoch concedes Fox stars 'endorsed' lies about 2020 election : NPR

Murdoch said in a January 2021 email that two of his top TV hosts maybe “went too far,” in an apparent reference to their election denial after Donald Trump lost.

“Maybe Sean and Laura went too far,” Murdoch wrote in the email, referring to Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham. “All very well for Sean to tell you he was in despair about Trump, but what did he tell his viewers?”

In the email, Murdoch asked Scott if it was “unarguable that high profile Fox voices fed the story that the election was stolen and that January 6th (was) an important chance to have the result overturned”?

More than a month after the 2020 election, then-Fox News DC Managing Editor Bill Sammon decried the network’s coverage of false election claims in private messages to a colleague, fearing it had become an “existential crisis” for the right-wing channel.

“More than 20 minutes into our flagship evening news broadcast and we’re still focused solely on supposed election fraud – a month after the election,” Sammon wrote to then-political editor Chris Stirewalt. “It’s remarkable how weak ratings makes good journalists do bad things.”

Murdoch prodded Jared Kushner to improve the Trump campaign’s TV ads, the documents show. Murdoch said candidate Joe Biden’s advertisements were “a lot better” than Trump’s, pointed out that Trump’s campaign was “spending less on TV than Biden.”

On September 24, 2021, Murdoch texted Kushner: “Know you are spending less on tv than Biden. However my people tell me his advs are a lot better creatively than yours. Just passing by it on.”

Dominion lawsuit documents show Rupert Murdoch rejected election conspiracy theories | CNN Business

Yeah, that all sounds like a non-partisan News organization and not just the sweat dripping from a convicted felons ball sack.

And you do know what him saying that Fox was "trying to straddle the line" means, right? This isn't a "Well, those conspiracy theories are clearly just that and journalists would never dabble in selling their audience a conspiracy theory, let alone spew it!" No, "straddling the line" means one full leg is over that conspiracy theory and the non-journalist shills for Trump Fox hosts were at least pretending to ride that fake horse aka "spewing" those conspiracy theories as Murdoch admitted under oath.

It really is telling how desperate those on the right are as they simply refuse to accept reality about their dear Leader and cling to their favorite rightwing media infotainment network for its willingness to spew their favorite conspiracy theories in their face daily. How many hours over the last fifteen years has Fox dedicated to things like Obama's birth certificate or the handful of video clips that were watched over and over and over and over of the "thugs" (now the correct nomenclature for anyone the rightwing conservatives would have previously used the 'n' word for) looting at some random BLM or George Floyd protest. That certainly got the scared shitless bigots hiding under their beds. But that's all Fox News does, it just provides conspiracy theories and confirmation bias for xenophobic old poorly educated religious bigots.

 
 
 
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5.2.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @5.2.2    last year

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bugsy
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5.2.5  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.3    last year

Still don't see Fox admitting to any "spewing". 

"It really is telling how desperate those on the right are as they simply refuse to accept reality about their dear Leader and cling to their favorite rightwing media infotainment network for its willingness to spew their favorite conspiracy theories in their face daily. How many hours over the last fifteen years has Fox dedicated to things like Obama's birth certificate or the handful of video clips that were watched over and over and over and over of the "thugs" (now the correct nomenclature for anyone the rightwing conservatives would have previously used the 'n' word for) looting at some random BLM or George Floyd protest. That certainly got the scared shitless bigots hiding under their beds. But that's all Fox News does, it just provides conspiracy theories and confirmation bias for xenophobic old poorly educated religious bigots."

This is a sign of real bigotry, hatred, racism and false accusations of those that are starting to understand their standing in the world has become much less and they are no longer able to get away with the bs they did during the Obama and Biden years. 

Better luck in 4 years s/

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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I choose to verify news stories before I submit them on this site. Evidently I have done a good job, because although our majority left that resides here likes to complain about my news items, never has anyone been able to dispute anything I have listed as news. 

What ridiculous drivel. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @6    last year
never has anyone been able to dispute anything I have listed as news.

Maybe you can start today??????/

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6    last year

I submitted 5 news stories in the column. Can you dispute any of them?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2    last year

Your opinions about Jim Acosta or the New York Times are not news, they are opinions. 

Jim Acosta is a podcaster, I dont think he works for a hard news outlet nowadays. He  is free to experiment with novel ways of delivering information without breaking your "journalistic" taboos.

The dead boys father clearly gave his approval to what Acosta was doing.  That should be the end of the complaints, yet scum like Megyn Kelly and Charlie Kirk try to get up on some sort of imaginary high horse.

Even if one does not personally approve of fabricating a conversation through AI, so what?   Who died and made right wing lunatics in charge of what is acceptable or not? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.1    last year
Your opinions about Jim Acosta or the New York Times are not news, they are opinions. 

That is true and I have classified that portion as an op-ed. There is the second portion which is classified as news.

Do you know the difference or are you deliberately trying to conflate the two?


Jim Acosta is a podcaster, I dont think he works for a hard news outlet nowadays. He  is free to experiment with novel ways of delivering information without breaking your "journalistic" taboos.

The dead boys father clearly gave his approval to what Acosta was doing.  That should be the end of the complaints, yet scum like Megyn Kelly and Charlie Kirk try to get up on some sort of imaginary high horse.

Even if one does not personally approve of fabricating a conversation through AI, so what?   Who died and made right wing lunatics in charge of what is acceptable or not? 

I think it is beyond the pale to insert words into the mouth of a murdered student. You do have the right to a radical view.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.1    last year
our opinions about Jim Acosta or the New York Times are not news, they are opinions.

jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif Thanks for the laugh.

fabricating a conversation

That's what the left bloggers have been doing for years.  Russia Collusion, Pee tapes, Inciting a riot....  All fabricated.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7  Greg Jones    last year

So much for the starving children lies being spread by the media. If there are shortages, it's not Israel's fault

The UN Releases the Reason There's a Lack of Food in Gaza and Here's a Hint: It's Not Israel – Twitchy

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8  Sean Treacy    last year

The NYT posting misinformation that helps Hamas?? It must be a day that ends in y. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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9  Nerm_L    last year

NYT hallucinations have been the model for artificial intelligence.  That was supposed to be a feature and not a flaw embedded in the training data.  It's just that AI doesn't have the institutional cojones to get away with it.

Zelensky attended another summit in Europe (one of many over the last 3 years) to issue demands for any peace process.  Russia was not included.  Apparently the European cats can't whip Russia into line the way they have the United States.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @9    last year
NYT hallucinations have been the model for artificial intelligence. 

I have a major concern with that. AI is based on what is fed into it. Those who worked at Silicon Valley will be doing most of the feeding and they are mostly far left politically. I have been testing it a bit lately by asking questions that I already know the answers to. Thus far the answers have come back bland, but fair enough. Anything involving Trump will be the ultimate test.


Zelensky attended another summit in Europe (one of many over the last 3 years) to issue demands for any peace process.  Russia was not included.  Apparently the European cats can't whip Russia into line the way they have the United States.

The Europeans are known for lip service. The Vice President recently said that President Trump will try to accommodate Zelensky and get him a seat at the table right in the beginning, as it should be.

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1    last year
AI is based on what is fed into it.

I understand that many AI outlets use Wiki as a source.

It is well established that wiki is run by far leftists and most changes/corrections submitted by conservatives are rejected. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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9.1.2  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1    last year
I have a major concern with that. AI is based on what is fed into it. Those who worked at Silicon Valley will be doing most of the feeding and they are mostly far left politically. I have been testing it a bit lately by asking questions that I already know the answers to. Thus far the answers have come back bland, but fair enough. Anything involving Trump will be the ultimate test.

It is possible to ask the LLM how it was trained.  I have asked the various LLMs the following:

  • How were you trained?
  • What was the source of your training data?
  • Did the training data rely on consensus among authoritative sources?

The publicly available general knowledge base of western civilization is dominated by secular humanism, protestant progressivism, and liberalized social analysis from institutional, academic, and popular sources.  Those are biases embedded in western civilization over the last 5 or 6 centuries.  

I have found that an iterative approach to queries or prompts can reveal the inherent biases and can overcome them.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bugsy @9.1.1    last year

The ultimate test is to use something as common as google. Google the riots of 2020. See how many references to Jan 6th come up.

That tells us all we need to know.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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10  author  Vic Eldred    last year

"WASHINGTON —  President Trump announced a historic escalation of law enforcement  in DC on Monday, deploying both the National Guard to patrol the streets and placing the city’s police department under federal control.

“We’re going to clean it up real quick,” Trump told reporters at the White House, noting the high crime rate in the city and the recent attack of a former Department of Government Efficiency staffer by 10 teens Aug. 3."

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Trump federalizing DC police, deploying National Guard in capital crime crackdown

 
 
 
Tacos!
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11  Tacos!    last year
the Times finally added this note:

"This article has been updated to include information about Mohammed Zakaria al-Mutawaq, a child in Gaza suffering from severe malnutrition. After publication of the article, The Times learned from his doctor that Mohammed also had pre-existing health problems," the editors’ note stated. 

So therefore…what, exactly? It’s fine that the child is starving? Unless that preexisting condition was starvation, how exactly does omitting the fact of some other health issue change the story?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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12  Sean Treacy    last year
A little odd to start your rebuttal by noting that, although you could easily live in DC, you bought your way out of there for reasons unstated but known to everyone who lives in Arlington.
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I live in Arlington. I’m a reporter. I travel into DC frequently. I’ve never been carjacked. I know it happens but I don’t know anyone who has been carjacked. I’ve never been the victim of any crime in DC. I have been to cities crawling with troops. Now that’s ugly.

people with the means  pay a premium to avoid living in areas where car jackings are a frequent occurrence. We all know that. What’s odd is how many progressives don’t really care about the safety of those left behind, 
 
 
 
George
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12.1  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @12    last year

This reminds me of the little bitch who was cheering the BLM riots.....until they got to his neighborhood, then he wanted the police to save his cowardly ass.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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12.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  George @12.1    last year

I’ll bet the people in Martha’s Vineyard who called out the national guard because desantis and abbot sent them a couple dozen illegals are having fainting spells over this. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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12.1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sean Treacy @12.1.1    last year

One can only hope...jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 

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