The mockery of prayer by the left
Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey's comments regarding prayer following the brutal murder of two Catholic schoolchildren by a crazed trans shooter may have shocked many, but to those of us here who have listened to the left it came as no surprise. During a press conference where he expressed concerns for the safety of trans kids, he said: " Don't just say we need thoughts and prayers. These kids were literally in a church praying." That was followed later by leftwing activist Jen Psaki saying: "Prayer is not freaking enough. Prayers does not end school shootings. prayers do not make parents feel safe sending their kids to school. Prayer does not bring these kids back. Enough with the thoughts and prayers."
Isn't it odd that those on the left who pretend that it is all about guns seem to sympathize with the shooter. How many recall the trans shooter in Tennessee, who had a manifesto which Biden authorities suppressed?
That manifesto was not only very incriminating, but it also had to have given us all some insight into the derangement of the mind of the killer. If the killer had simply been a young white straight male, I'm sure it would have been released without objection. The problem is the ideology of the left which requires the suspension of rational thought when it comes to certain groups. Wasn't that one of the lessons that the Biden administration gave us during covid, when we had to wear masks, employ social distancing, no gatherings EXCEPT when you wanted to protest. Then it was ok for thousands to gather in tight quarters and hurl rocks at the police.
I think the White House Secretary spoke for all of us when she said:
"I saw the comments of Ms. Psaki and frankly I think they're incredibly insensitive and disrespectful to the tens of millions of Americans of faith across this country who believe in the power of prayer, who believe that prayer works."
MAGA Fury at Democrats' Remarks on Prayer After Annunciation School Shooting - Newsweek
They may turn to violence, but the left is getting weaker by the day.
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The fall season is already upon us:
School is open again, Saratoga concluded its summer meet yesterday and congress returns to conduct a lot of unfinished business with deadlines looming.
There is a crispness in the air.
"The House and Senate returned to Washington after a month-long August recess and are racing against the clock as the government shutdown deadline approaches."
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She lies on a daily basis for a president who lies on an hourly basis.
Do you disagree?
You don't think Frey's comments were disrespectful to people of faith?
Anyone else?
Can we conclude that she did speak for all of us?
Then it's unanimous.
I wonder what the parents of kids killed in school shootings think of nothing but "thoughts and prayers".
Maybe they should ask Governor Walz.
Or maybe he just didn't read the talking points memo that morning.
No, you cannot, the 'lady' is one of the several Kings and Queens of Bitterness and Mendacity currently soiling the People's House.
No. They were highlighting the difference between wishing that an action would stop and actually doing something to make the action more difficult to achieve.
I think that Levitt has zero credibility since she is a pure propaganda mouthpiece for the Trump administration. About the only thing complementary I can say about her is that she can lie with a straight face. The fact that anyone accepts what she says as gospel just makes me laugh.
‘I think that Levitt has zero credibility since she is a pure propaganda mouthpiece for the Trump administration.’
I went through a lot of your past posts and Lo and Behold, I couldn’t find where you said the same about KJP. Was that an oversight on your part or do you believe she always told the truth?
What you cannot find any evidence of or do not remember someone not doing is not even a thing. You cannot prove a negative. Smart people understand this kind of basic logic.
Smart people know when hypocrisy is right in front of their face and call the person out, knowing there will be no counter argument because the truth is known.
OK how about you answering….
Do you think KJP always told the truth.
Leavitt is a cartoonish figure. Her main role is to tell Donald Trump how great he is.
Biden is sharp as a tack. He does circles around the White House staff.
Now, that is cartoonish if not a blatant outright lie
I don't think Frey's comments were disrespectful to people of faith. Since you are asking US our personal opinion about a potential insult to people of faith. . . put your personal opinion on record: Do you think Frey meant disrespect to people of faith? How so? I am okay with you making it pithy.
No. I do not. I think his comments were spot on. Funny how conservative Christians have an unlimited amount of thoughts and prayers, if thought of in terms of money they'd be obscenely rich. But apparently, when it comes to action (and morals) they are completely bankrupt.
I think people of faith are as impotent to do anything about the rampant gun problem in our society as anyone else. In fact, not only are they as impotent, many seem to be intentionally supporting the rampant unchecked gun problem because they think they're going to need to stockpile weapons themselves for the ongoing "war on Christians" and want the same access to unlimited unregistered guns as the criminals have because they have a criminal mindset, an 'us' against the world belief where they believe they'll be surrounded by hordes of unbelievers they need to shoot.
Which means Christians willing to kill violate their own spiritual rules. Nobody is telling Christians to not defend themselves and those whom they love, but to involve themselves in stockpiling weapons along with the masses is anti-spiritual and shows a non-reliance on the very God they 'say' (with their lips) is their Protector in "the valley of death" -according to David. Of course, we know that Paul and the early Christians did not wage war against anybody. They accepted persecution of their bodies (if need be) as 'testimony' of service to a peaceful God.
I certainly think Frey's comments were disrespectful. Have you ever lost a child? I lost my only son in 2017. That was four months after his mother passed in 2016. If you have not lost a child, then you have absolutely no frame of reference as to what me or those parents felt or are feeling. My faith took a tremendous hit that is only now starting to come back, but I can tell you from experience that those "thoughts and prayers" were for me a tremendous benefit because I realized I was not alone and helped get me through. I pray they will help the parents of those children as well.
None of his comments were directed at the parents of the victims so I'm not sure how his comments could be seen as disrespectful to them.
I'm very sorry to hear that, I truly am. Losing a loved one is one of the most painful experiences known to man and while all of us will experience it at some point in our lives, it's not something any sane person would wish on their worst enemy.
I'm glad you've found something you can rely on that gets you through tough times. I am all for clinging to whatever one can to get us through hard times, but I don't believe Mr. Frey's comments had anything to do with trying to stop the victims parents from having thoughts and prayers or accepting the flood of thoughts and prayers they will undoubtedly receive. His comments were targeted at those who are in positions to do more, who could actually support sensible gun laws that might save an extra life or two, but choose to only send "thoughts and prayers". That's what he was talking about, and I think he's right. Fuck those conservative dicks who are in positions to do something but choose not to because it's politically inconvenient for them in their district.
Before I present my passage below, I must point out something of a mystery to me. I do not clearly understand how so many MAGA supporters can get their 'bible' missed, confused, or twisted—unless they do not read it deep(ly) enough. Thus, all I can say to evangelicals whom wish to have "authority" over others based on a Christian understanding of moral/wisdom texts: Study deep(ly) your Bible! And above all your getting from it—get understanding!
Now the presentation: (Because we know Christians are expected to be true to the text/context and extrapolate wisdom for 'today' from it):
2 Samuel 12 ERV (Easy to Read Version)
11 “This is what the Lord says: ‘I am bringing trouble against you. This trouble will come from your own family. I will take your wives from you and give them to someone who is very close to you. He will have sexual relations with your wives, and everyone will know it! [ b ] 12 You had sexual relations with Bathsheba in secret, but I will punish you so that all the people of Israel can see it.’” [ c ]
13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord .”
Nathan said to David, “The Lord will forgive you, even for this sin. You will not die. 14 But you did things that made the Lord ’s enemies lose their respect for him, so your new baby son will die.”
David and Bathsheba’s Baby Dies
1 5 Then Nathan went home. And the Lord caused the baby boy who was born to David and Uriah’s wife to become very sick. 16 David prayed to God for the baby. David refused to eat or drink. He went into his house and stayed there and lay on the ground all night.
17 The leaders of David’s family came and tried to pull David up from the ground, but he refused to get up. He refused to eat with these leaders. 18 On the seventh day the baby died. David’s servants were afraid to tell him that the baby was dead. They said, “Look, we tried to talk to David while the baby was alive, but he refused to listen to us. If we tell David that the baby is dead, he might do something bad to himself.”
19 David saw his servants whispering and understood that the baby was dead. So David asked his servants, “Is the baby dead?”
The servants answered, “Yes, he is dead.”
20 Then David got up from the floor. He washed himself. He changed his clothes and got dressed. Then he went into the Lord ’s house to worship. After that he went home and asked for something to eat. His servants gave him some food, and he ate.
21 David’s servants asked him, “Why are you doing this? When the baby was alive, you cried and refused to eat. But when the baby died you got up and ate food.”
22 David said, “While the baby was still living, I cried and refused to eat because I thought, ‘Who knows? Maybe the Lord will feel sorry for me and let the baby live.’ 23 But now the baby is dead, so why should I refuse to eat ? Can I bring the baby back to life? No. Some day I will go to him, but he cannot come back to me.”
Nearly all the above passage is for background and context to set up the significant portion of this 'exercise' is in red . When the tragedy (misfortune) has happened - weep, and then get up and "eat." That is, do something PRACTICAL.
In our case in 2025, don't just offer 'thoughts and prayers' (a Given in a time of tragedy and death), but act with reasonability, respect, and PRACTICAL-facing "lessons learned" to reduce another tragedy.
That is the meaning buried in Mr. Frey's words. It is a sentiment I, and many others, can agree.
Thus, we will not permit GRANDSTANDING by anybody to tell us what we know better about apparently already! Christians (who 'talk') should comprehend the depth, height, and width of their morality before 'making up' matters and 'moments' to be offended through an epistemology of ignorance (a pretense of not knowing or worse not caring to learn)!
Chirp chirp chirp...
Reading it at all would be a first for many of them. Heck, reading comprehension in general seems to be scarce among those I've come across. But even the ones who do read some of it, they cherry pick the ones that make them feel special, they claim to be the new chosen ones with the Jews having given up their position when they rejected Jesus. That's the bible they read, the one with white Jesus telling them to arm themselves to the teeth because Satan and all his infidels, aka anyone who doesn't ascribe to their version of Protestant Christian faith, are waging a war on them aka not just doing what they want all the time.
To them, as you can see, just saying that thoughts and prayers aren't enough is considered an attack on their faith. Saying Happy Holidays is now considered an attack on Christians according to some. It's completely mental. And none of it really has any roots in the bible, it all comes from their sick self-absorbed self-supremacist hubris which is entirely of their own making.
These people understand context in and surrounding statements. They are simply hard at work looking for another item to add to their 'culture war' - in hopes of damning liberals further. It's all so disheartening to see some people act this way. They hate us. Really, it's clear to me now. And the lies! Oh, the lies being told everyday with each new story spun up and made to go 'viral.'
I truly wasn't expecting an answer
Saying things you don't agree with isn't lying. I've yet to see her proven wrong.
You dont think Trump lies either, so excuse us if we dont pay any attention to you.
I never said he didn't. Unlike yourself and the rest of the left, I acknowledge that ALL politicians lie. Despite your outrage on that, I'm not going to hyper-focus on one person.
Yep, politicians in DC lying is the nature of the beast in all elected officials in DC no matter what party affiliation.
Some people can't seem to grasp that basic fact.
I'm curious. Does any individual one of you bother to qualify the statement: ". . . all elected officials in DC lie. . . . Because lying can not be a legitimate stance for electing politicians (whether it is true or not). . . it can't be accepted as matter-of-fact. Granted, their may be rationales for why coming completely clear and clean on any given subject may be not the right action when asked by reporters, journalists, writers, or even in speeches. . . but lying being acceptable as "nature" for politicians is not an excuse for gratuitous lying!
The talking points from democratic politicians and the murderer‘s message are the same.
Only if you consider the message to be that thoughts and prayers after the fact are a piss poor means of stopping an idiot wack-job with a gun.
Great, we agree Democrats and the shooter believing in taunting christians without understanding what they are even talking about. Peas in a pod.
What a strange interpretation of my comment.
No. Wrong again and as usual .
Where has taunting Christians even entered the conversation? You put it there because you wish to portray the left as some kind of monsters, but you cannot without taking the words said and distorting them to mean the opposite of what was intended. Show me where anyone who has made a statement about this event has called it anything but the tragedy it is. You cannot without being disingenuous, as you are about claiming that the various commenters referenced in the article are attacking Christians.
This whole article is about a bunch of snowflakes melting because of a made up premise.
Lol. You should probably understand the subject before commenting then. That's that point. T
Oh, yes. Some people have a "Christians are being persecuted complex" so badly that they will cling to any little utterance, no matter how contextually removed from reality and cry, "They're hurting me." Of course this persecution exists only in their heads.
Hhmmmmm... Should they be the ones receiving counseling to help them with understanding of their delusions?
Yes. Start with TBN! Those people are 'thick' into "the persecuted Church/end times can't be long away" narrative. They blame pagans for all their shortcomings as a Church beset by the world. Even though "the world" barely even know that churches are still in business-as far as mentioning them in daily life. On the other-hand, today's (religion of Whiteness) evangelicals are desperate to make liberals 'repent' of being being so and force them to become conservative-minded.
What a perfectly dishonest response from you. Snice you can't keep up the charade anymore that Newsom and company weren't mocking people for praying (it takes a special kind of dishonesty/idiocy to do that) you pivot to a strawman.
See 4.1.17. If more is needed. . .let me know!
Hahaha. I am not the one being dishonest. Show me where people are taunting Christians in the article. They aren't. But then snowflakes melted and opened themselves up to criticism for duplicity. After that, they deserve all of the criticism they get. Maybe they had aught to observe what actually goes on and stop trying to create out of whole cloth narratives where they are always the victim. I think that they take the teachings of Jesus and turn them on their heads, going from the holy martyrs to the unholy, unscrupulous deceivers.
Donald Trump is quite unpopular. In a new poll a few days ago he was seriously underwater on 5 of 6 major issues. The right "runs" on one thing, cultural issues, such as gender, abuse of Christians, DEI, ad nauseum.
They cant defend his abuse of power, this is a man who routinely gets shot down in the courts, almost all of it over abuse of power issues. They cant defend his bizarre , sometimes incoherent speech and behavior, they cant defend his endless largely unsupported bragging. They cant defend his idiotic social media posts. They certainly cant defend his humongous personal corruption. And of course no honest person can defend his pathological lying.
So we hear every day about trans, Sydney Sweeney, Cracker Barrel, persecution of Christians and all sorts of other endless nonsense.
Your words:
But the left don't sympathize with the shooter. She was colloquially "crazy", as anyone who performs such acts has to be.
I defy you to find a statement that does not claim these killings as a tragic event.
Fact vs. Fiction: Did Transgender People Commit a Disproportionate Share of Mass Shootings (2015–2025)?
Posted By: Media Bias Fact Check
Claim by End Wokeness:
A viral chart posted on August 28, 2025, claimed that transgender individuals committed a disproportionately high number of mass shootings in the U.S. from 2015 to 2025, based on a “mass shooting rates by demographic” graph that showed trans/nonbinary shooters with the highest rate per million population.
Explanation:
The chart circulating on X.com provided no sourcing and was not supported by any reputable mass shooting database. In fact, organizations that systematically track such data—including the Gun Violence Archive and The Violence Project —confirmed that the numbers were inaccurate.
Gun Violence Archive’s director, Mark Bryant , stated that from 2013 to 2025, only five out of 5,729 mass shootings involved transgender perpetrators—representing just 0.087% of all incidents. Similarly, The Violence Project found only one confirmed transgender mass shooter in its database from 1966 to 2024. These findings contradict the viral chart’s implication that transgender individuals were significantly overrepresented among mass shooters.
Additionally, research from the U.S. Department of Justice’s National Institute of Justice confirms that the majority of mass shooters are cisgender white men. The chart not only misrepresents transgender data but also distorts the racial and gender distribution of mass shooting perpetrators overall.
Conclusion:
Fact or Fiction? Fiction. There is no evidence to support the claim that transgender people are disproportionately responsible for mass shootings. Verified data from established archives shows they represent a fraction of a percent of such incidents.
Right. Now do school shootings (at random students, not drug deal shootings on the school grounds that take place in the middle of the night) and other political violence.
"Mass shootings" are primarily gang related. Transgenders aren't committing those.
That is an odd statement coming out of the administration and political party that mocks feeling everyday from tens of millions of Americans of faith. . .and non-faith! You can't have it both ways in an argument: As it makes for vacillation.
Okay conservatives, what is the problem you think you have with these comments. Real deal/problem, not just trying to 'dirty' up the messengers.
Peace in our time? Trump said today that he is going to "see what happens" in Ukraine.
Well, show me Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham, Mike Johnson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, the entire Freedom Caucus, JD Vance, Susie Wiles, Caroline Leavitt, or Trump himself for that matter, show up and actually pray with these families. Where was the Republican Party actually SHOWING UP?
Any of them can issue a social media post saying thought and prayers or direct their staff to do so, but how about some actual real life, real time praying with and facing the many families affected?
If Republicans refuse to go back to even the Bush era and restore the previous bans that were effective, then do they even have the courage to pray in real life facing the aftermath?
Republicans in real life prefer to send out a tweet or a statement, then AVOID doing anything. They don't do anything.
I pray for Republicans to wake up tomorrow and do something, anything, maybe get on a plane and actually pray with the families.
Prayer literally does nothing, period.