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Poland says it shot down Russian drones in its airspace for the first time in Ukraine war

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  perrie-halpern  •  last year  •  42 comments

By:   By Mithil Aggarwal

Poland says it shot down Russian drones in its airspace for the first time in Ukraine war
Poland's military said it scrambled its own and NATO allied air defenses to shoot down Russian drones on Wednesday after they crossed from neighboring Ukraine, the first time in the Ukraine war that Warsaw has engaged Russian assets in its airspace.

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The Polish military scrambled NATO and its own jets after Russian drones entered its airspace while attacking Ukraine, it said early Wednesday, making this the first time Warsaw has directly engaged with Moscow's assets since the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

"During today's attack by the Russian Federation targeting objects on the territory of Ukraine, our airspace was repeatedly violated by drone-type objects," the Polish military operational command said in a post on X.

The military also advised people to stay home as the operation was still ongoing. The areas most at risk were mostly along eastern Poland, namely Podlaskie, which directly borders Ukraine, as well as Mazowieckie and Lublin.

"An operation is underway aimed at identifying and neutralizing these objects ... weapons have been used, and service personnel are carrying out actions to locate the downed objects," the military command said.

"The Operational Command of the Polish Armed Forces is monitoring the situation, and subordinate forces and units remain on full readiness for immediate response," it added.

This is the first time Poland — or NATO assets — have directly engaged with Russian targets since Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Radars operated by Poland and NATO had tracked several drones before some of them were shot down, the Polish military said in a separate statement on X, adding it was locating the crash sites.

At least three airports across Poland, including the Chopin Airport in Warsaw, were "not available due to unplanned military activity related to ensuring state security," according to NOTAM alerts on the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration website.

Known as "Notice to Airmen," these alerts inform aircrews about time-sensitive aerial conditions for safe flying.

"The airport remains open, but no flight operations are currently taking place," the Chopin airport said in a post on X.

Southwest of Warsaw, the Lublin airport was also closed, according to a NOTAM. The Rzeszow-Jasionka airport, a logistical hub for military and passenger transfers to Ukraine, was also closed.

The Polish engagement came as the Ukrainian air force earlier warned that Russian drones had entered Poland's airspace and posed a threat to the city of Zamosc, before later removing that statement from the Telegram messaging app, Reuters reported.

The Ukrainian air force issued warnings of dozens of Russian drones and missiles attacking its own territory early Wednesday.

Poland and the U.S. are members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, which at its core is a mutual defense pact, meaning an attack on one is an attack on all.

Since Russia invaded Ukraine, neighboring Poland has remained on high alert, especially after a stray Ukrainian missile struck a Polish village just a few months into the war in 2022 and killed two people there. Stray Russian missiles have also briefly entered Polish airspace on at least two occasions.

In the U.S., Secretary of State Marco Rubio told CNN he had been briefed on reports of Russian drones over Poland as he left a dinner with President Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said the NATO airspace violation was a sign that, "Vladimir Putin is testing our resolve to protect Poland and the Baltic nations."

"After the carnage Putin continues to visit on Ukraine, these incursions cannot be ignored," he said on X.

Reuters contributed.


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Trout Giggles
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1  Trout Giggles    last year

Way to go Poland!

And I thought NATO countries were too chicken to get involved....

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    last year

I'm sure putin's official spokesman in the USA, trump, will provide the kremlin's spin on the story very soon ...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    last year

Well when some foreign prick's drones are detected in one's own backyard, that would be the natural response. That is, unless it is a Chinese balloon doing who knows what the hell, and giving it time to traverse the country prior to shooting it down.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.1  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2    last year

I'm going to start calling you Ringo Starr for never missing a beat. ; -)

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2    last year

but, but, but, what about ...

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.5  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2    last year

That is, unless it is a Chinese balloon doing who knows what the hell, and giving it time to traverse the country prior to shooting it down.

Which is better than being totally oblivious to Chinese balloons crossing the country.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.5    last year

And that happened when again?

Sure, let the mission complete and THEN pop it............wouldn't want to piss someone off now would we. /s

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2.7  Krishna  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2    last year
Well when some foreign prick's drones are detected in one's own backyard, that would be the natural response. That is, unless it is a Chinese balloon

Do you really think the Poles don't know the difference between a drone and a balloon?

Graphic from Epstein's 50th Birthday Book 

While those girls are definitely underage-- what Epstein is holding are not drones! (You don't have to be a Pole to know which way the _____ goes!)

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.8  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.6    last year
And that happened when again?

During the Trump administration.

Sure, let the mission complete and THEN pop it

Your idea is better?  Pop over the US where it coming down may hurt or kill someone?  Especially when we had no idea what the balloon was carrying?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.8    last year
During the Trump administration.

When? Please show your work.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.10    last year

from one of your sources............

On Monday, John K Kirby, a US National Security Council spokesman, confirmed suspected surveillance balloons flew over the US during Mr Trump's time in office.

"From every indication that we have, that was for brief periods of time — nothing at all like what we saw last week in terms of duration," he said.

Brief periods of time........

I do stand corrected however, degrees matter........a LOT in this case.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.12  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.11    last year
Brief periods of time........

Wow.....  You had to dig deep through all my links to find something, anything to try and give your cult leader some kind of response.  You're missing a small detail however. 

1 balloon fly over for Biden, multiple balloon fly overs for Trump.  Trump missed every single one of them.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.12    last year

Really? Did those balloons dawdle or fly over practically (although TPTB admitted they missed them due to the speed at which they traveled) at the speed of sound??

You had to dig deep through all my links to find something, anything to try and give your cult leader some kind of response

Nope just read one of the links you provided. It just so happens that it was the one with the admission.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.14  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.13    last year
Nope just read one of the links you provided. It just so happens that it was the one with the admission.

Yet it also confirmed that he missed multiple balloons.  You're not concerned with that part though because it makes your cult leader look bad.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    last year

There is a difference between protecting your borders and protecting someone else's borders.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.3    last year

but...but...that's not what I've been hearing around here. I've been hearing that Europe needs to step up in defense of Ukraine

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.3.2  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.3    last year
There is a difference between protecting your borders and protecting someone else's borders.

That border is both! The Ukrainian border and the Polish border.

(You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the border goes!)

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.3.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Krishna @1.3.2    last year

Are you really suggesting you don't know what I meant?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2  Sparty On    last year

NATO country defends its border …… news at eleven ……

 
 
 
George
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2.1  George  replied to  Sparty On @2    last year

Still has to be a way to blame trump

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.1  Krishna  replied to  George @2.1    last year
Still has to be a way to blame trump

Or #Epstein!

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2  Krishna  replied to  Sparty On @2    last year
NATO country defends its border

Which #NATO country, specifically,  are you referring to?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Krishna @2.2    last year

Really?

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.2  Krishna  replied to  Sparty On @2.2.1    last year
Really?

Maybe yes, maybe no.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.2.3  Sparty On  replied to  Krishna @2.2.2    last year

Sounds about right.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    last year

So do we send air defense systems and munitions to Poland or to Ukraine?  Do we beef up defenses on NATO's borders or supply Ukraine?

Seems like Russia is forcing Europe to choose priorities.  Whether or not that's intentional really doesn't matter.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3    last year
Seems like Russia is forcing Europe to choose priorities.

Based on your comment-- could it be possible that you are the one mentioning that its a choice. As far as I know we've been sending arms to Poland all along and possibly to Ukraine intermittently-- but I'm not entirely sure...may I'll google it!)

(And FWIW, this has nothing to do with sending weapons-- or even balloons-- to Epstein & Trump's girlies!)

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Krishna @3.1    last year
Based on your comment-- could it be possible that you are the one mentioning that its a choice. As far as I know we've been sending arms to Poland all along and possibly to Ukraine intermittently-- but I'm not entirely sure...may I'll google it!)

So, the war has really been more about NATO than about Ukraine?

Poland invoking Article 4 has a higher priority than Ukraine.  The United States has NATO obligations with Poland.  Zelenskyy will be so jealous.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.1    last year
Poland invoking Article 4 has a higher priority than Ukraine.

Why do you think one is higher priority than the other?

A strong Poland as well as a strong Ukraine is in our interests.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.3  Nerm_L  replied to  Krishna @3.1.2    last year
Why do you think one is higher priority than the other? A strong Poland as well as a strong Ukraine is in our interests.

Articles 13 & 14 are interesting.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.2  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3    last year
Seems like Russia is forcing Europe to choose priorities.

I don't think Europe lets Putin "force them around"! (Perhaps you are confusing #Trump with #Europe???)

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Krishna @3.2    last year
I don't think Europe lets Putin "force them around"!

Unless natural gas and oil is involved.  Europe did stop buying coal from Russia after the 2022 invasion; what a sacrifice.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.3  Sparty On  replied to  Nerm_L @3    last year

Poland first, by NATO charter.    The ONLY NATO country besides Estonia to pay a larger % of GDP to fund NATO than the US.    Based on 2024.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.4  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3    last year
Do we beef up defenses on NATO's borders or supply Ukraine?

Are you not aware of the fact that Ukraine borders Russia?

(Don't believe me-- look ar a map!)

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.4.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Krishna @3.4    last year
Are you not aware of the fact that Ukraine borders Russia? (Don't believe me-- look ar a map!)

Are you not aware that the United States shares a border with Russia?  Where's the NATO assistance to defend our border with Russia?

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.4.2  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3.4.1    last year
Where's the NATO assistance to defend our border with Russia?

Are you trying to imply that the U.S. has no militsry presence in Alaska?

Or are you saying that we do have a military presence in Alaska, but that still countries in Europe should send troops into Alaska to help our troops there?

(Why such a low opinion about the U.S. military???  jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif )

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.4.3  Sparty On  replied to  Krishna @3.4.2    last year

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Nerm_L
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3.4.4  Nerm_L  replied to  Krishna @3.4.2    last year
Are you trying to imply that the U.S. has no militsry presence in Alaska?

Are you attempting to acknowledge that the United States is NATO?  Are you admitting that NATO doesn't exist without the US military?  Have we finally gotten around to the fact that NATO is nothing more than a welfare program for Europe?

Or are you saying that we do have a military presence in Alaska, but that still countries in Europe should send troops into Alaska to help our troops there?

If NATO is responsible for defending the member states then, yes, other NATO members should be contributing troops and weapons for the defense of the US border with Alaska.  If the United States is expected to defend that border alone, then that defense should be considered a contribution to NATO.

Europeans had better thank the American taxpayer (and American suckers) for keeping them free, safe, and prosperous.  

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.4.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Nerm_L @3.4.1    last year

"Are you not aware that the United States shares a border with Russia?"

Most people are not aware of Big Diomede Island and Little Diomede Island in the Bering Strait. Big Diomede is actually a part of Russia that is the Easternmost part of Russia while it's sister island, Which is known as Little Diomede and part of the US and is about 2.4 miles away. The two island are separated by international border and the International Dateline.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.4.6  Krishna  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.4.5    last year
Most people are not aware of Big Diomede Island and Little Diomede Island in the Bering Strait.

That is correct.

I actually personally am aware of that-- I am a very curious person so I know a lot of information on varied topics.. (Of come some of it is entirely useless but sometimes some of it can be good to know).

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4  Ed-NavDoc    last year

No way in Hades do I think this may have been in any way accidental! Vicious Vlad is trying to send a clear message to Poland and other countries in the region as well as the US, and that is do not f#*k with Russia, and keep your hands out of Ukraine. It is nothing but sheer intimidation on Putin's part! He is absolutely certain Xi has his back.

 
 

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