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There is now an ethics complaint against Ilhan Omar over her hateful comments regarding the late Charlie Kirk.



Ilhan Omar hit with House Ethics complaint over Charlie Kirk response | Fox News

Did you see the shameful shit show performed by Rashida Tlaib yesterday?  

This is how low the Democrat party has sunk It's hard to understand how their colleagues support their radical and seditious views 

Average normal rational citizens, the silent majority, who comprise the majority of the American electorate, will not support this bullshit come the midterms and the next general election

WATCH: Rashia Tlaib and Byron Donalds spar on House floor

I watched it on Laura Ingraham's show I believe.

We are getting to the point where congressional representatives will assault one another. She is a particular problem. She has made many hateful coments. If she is taken of committees, the left will cry foul.

 Joe Biden is a bumbling, dementia-filled Alzheimer's, corrupt, tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America.

Any idea who said that Vic ? 

I know who compared Trump to Hitler and called him a Fascist every day.

Did you hear Gutfeld the other day?

We don't care anymore. We have had enough of the left.

And if a left winger calls someone Hitler, that means they  are Hitler and should expect to be shot.  If they didn’t want to be shot, don’t make the left call them Hitler.

that’s the new logic I’ve seen.  Kirk made the left shoot him. 

Did you hear Gutfeld the other day?

Why hasnt Fox fired him yet? The president is very concerned about offensive comedians.

Probably because the right is far less prone to violence.

Probably because the right is far less prone to violence

You made the claim. Statistics links please.

I asked chatGPT "Violence classified by political leanings over the past 50 years" and it returned:

Do you want U.S. numbers? I’ll assume United States, 1975–2025 and separate by broad ideology (right-wing, left-wing, Islamist/other religious, and “other/unknown”). If you meant another country or a different time span, tell me and I’ll redo it.

 

Headline takeaways (U.S., last ~50 years)

 

Most deaths since 1975 come from a few very large attacks (especially 9/11). One recent synthesis estimates 3,597 politically-motivated killings (1975–2025); ~87% were by Islamist terrorists (driven by 9/11), ~11% by right-wing, ~1–2% by left-wing/other. Since 2020, right-wing accounts for >50% of terrorist deaths, with left-wing ~22% and Islamist ~21%. 

 

When you exclude 9/11’s unique mass fatality, the balance shifts: across the post-Cold War era, multiple datasets (CSIS, ADL, GAO summaries reported in press) show more incidents and more deadly violence by the U.S. far right than by the far left, especially since ~2015. 

 

Recent years: ADL’s annual tallies found all identified extremist mass-killings in 2022 were by right-wing perpetrators, with a high share white supremacist; over the past decade, roughly ~75% of U.S. extremist-related murders are attributed to the far right. 

 

Incidents & plots (not just deaths): CSIS’s database of 725 domestic terrorist attacks/plots (1994–Apr 2024) shows a long-running dominance of right-wing/anti-government motivations, plus a post-2016 rise in partisan-motivated attacks against elected officials and party offices (still generally low-fatality). 

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Quick reference table (different datasets = different scopes)

 

Scope & measure What’s counted Pattern by political leaning

 

Terrorist killings, 1975–2025 (Cato) Fatalities from ideologically-motivated “terrorist” attacks in the U.S. Islamist ~87% (9/11), Right-wing ~11% (~391 deaths), Left-wing ~1–2%. Since 2020: Right-wing >50%, Left-wing ~22%, Islamist ~21%. 

Domestic attacks/plots, 1994–Apr 2024 (CSIS) Incidents & disrupted plots, with ideology tagging Right-wing/anti-gov dominant over time; sharp rise since 2016 in partisan-motivated attacks against government/political targets; lethality generally low. 

Extremist murders, recent decade (ADL) All murders tied to U.S. extremist ideologies (broader than “terrorism”) Far-right ≈ three-quarters of extremist murders in recent years; 2022 mass-killings: 100% right-wing. 

Federal/oversight snapshots (GAO/FBI/DHS via press) Mixed indicators, 2009–present Government and oversight digests echo the predominant right-wing threat in the modern period (details vary by definition/year). 

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How to read this

 

Definitions differ. “Terrorism” (Cato/CSIS) ≠ “extremist-related murder” (ADL) ≠ “hate crime” (FBI). Ideological labels also vary. That’s why I show multiple reputable datasets rather than one number. 

 

Big outliers matter. 9/11 drives Islamist fatality share over 50 years; excluding it highlights the far-right share of post-1990 domestic deadly violence/plots. 

 

Recent shift toward “partisan targeting.” Since 2016, more attacks target elected officials/party offices, coming from both extremes, but still low-fatality overall. 

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Bottom line (U.S., past 50 years)

 

1. Deaths dominated by a few Islamist mega-attacks (esp. 9/11). Over the whole half-century, that’s why Islamist fatalities look largest. 

2. Outside of that, the plurality of modern domestic extremist violence is right-wing. Across the 1990s–2020s, more U.S. incidents, plots, and extremist murders are attributed to far-right actors than to left-wing actors. 

 

 

3. Since 2020, right-wing accounts for most U.S. terrorist killings, with left-wing and Islamist shares smaller but non-zero. 

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If you want, I can put this into a one-page chart-pack (with sources on each slide) or filter to non-lethal incidents, mass-casualty events only, or state-by-state breakdowns.

Bibliography

Here’s a clean bibliographic-style list of the main sources I drew from in the “violence by political leanings” summary. I’ve formatted them in APA style for consistency, but I can also do MLA or Chicago if you prefer:

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References

Anti-Defamation League (ADL). (2023). Murder and Extremism in the United States in 2022. ADL Center on Extremism. adl

Cato Institute. (2025). Terrorism in America after 50 years. Cato Institute Policy Analysis. cato (summary of fatalities by ideology, 1975–2025)

Center for Strategic & International Studies (CSIS). (2024). The U.S. Terrorism Database: Attacks and Plots, 1994–2024. Transnational Threats Project. csis

Government Accountability Office (GAO). (2017). Countering Violent Extremism: Actions Needed to Define Strategy and Assess Progress of Federal Efforts (GAO-17-300). gao

U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS). (2022). National Terrorism Advisory System Bulletin. dhs

Selected press coverage summarizing ADL, CSIS, and GAO data:

The Guardian (2025). Rightwing extremism remains top U.S. domestic terror threat, report finds.

NPR (2022). Far-right extremists committed the majority of extremist murders last year, report says.

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Would you like me to expand this into a full formal bibliography (with all report numbers, URLs, and retrieval dates filled in), or just keep it at this compact reference list level for your notes?

Takeaway is that for political violence,  much more is attributed to right leaning sources. So your claim 

Probably because the right is far less prone to violence.

Is false.

Can't argue with the CATO institute even if they deny being conservatives.

Sure you can... BLM riots don't count.. The Waukesha driver doesn't count...

It's all about manipulating what gets counted as "political violence" (any criminal with the most tangential tie to being right wing) and what doesn't (basically a left winger who doesn't leave an explicit memo admitting that his sole purpose in carrying out the violence was afdvanceing left wing causes

Barack, it was you who weaponized the FBI and DOJ.

It was you who tried to derail the Trump candidacy in 2016.

It was you who had intel leaders produce a false CIA assessment which smeared Trump as a Russian agent.

Last but not least it was you Barack that sicked all those radical judges on this country.

What's hilarious is that you see Trump as doing nothing wrong, it's all the black mans fault for everything. I get it, a lot of rightwing conservatives have been hating Obama for daring to upset their record of all white male Presidents. The bullshit narrative by such feckless dickwads like Kash Patel claiming Obama "weaponized the FBI and the DOJ" are just completely unfounded horse shit based on cherry picked intelligence. That narrative is the most hilarious out of all the bullshit you posted so far today, but it likely won't be the last, you seem to have a talent for serving up mountains of conservative horse shit.

It was him.

and now The real victim in the Kirk assassination was Kimmel. 

Narrative # 6

Kimmel is a victim of himself.  Nobody else.  It wasn't Kirk, it wasn't Trump; it was him.  And somehow THAT is the "threat to free speech"?

I had read somewhere that Kimmel can get his job back.  He would have to personally apologize to the Kirk family and make donations to their charities.

The real victim in the Kirk assassination was Kimmel.

Is there a law in rightwing land that there can only be 1 victim generated from a crime?

You guys live in a fantasy world. 

Trump is an authoritarian/fascist leader. He seems to think he can rule by fiat, control the media, control the educational systems, control the economy, control taxes... and while he is doing this you rampage up the bullshit-rage machine so that people have something to think about while their country is actively being destroyed by Donald J Trump. 

I've asked you to prove that propaganda.

Isn't it enough that people have lost their lives over it?

I've asked you to prove that propaganda.

My accusations are proven by his actions. Therefore, it ain't propaganda, it is Trump's own actions that incriminate him.

Isn't it enough that people have lost their lives over it?

What a disingenuous way to debate.  Provide proof that people have died because of my commenting on this website. I double dog dare you to try. 

You cannot, because it isn't so. It's just another melty line from the Snowflake in Chief designed to tug at sympathies whilst eschewing the concept of self determination and personal responsibility.  Might just as well say, "My Mommy made me do it!"

My accusations are proven by his actions.

Such as?

Trump is an authoritarian/fascist leader.

And exactly how is he authoritarian/fascist leader?

See here. NT

He's got a phone and a pen!   Oh wait, that wasn't Trump?

I wonder about the mindset of anybody who calls Trump an authoritarian while ignoring past politicians.

Yeah I saw that.  That is one long, drawn out feelings driven opinion with very little thought put into it.  

I wonder about the mindset of anybody who calls Trump an authoritarian while ignoring past politicians.

The mindset? [deleted] [✘] Past and present politicians are always ignored when they go into their rants.

I really don't think that you looked at it.

I did.  Nothing more than a feelings driven opinion with very little thought put into

Then you didn't look at all 

Oh I did.  When I realized there was little thought put into it, naturally I stopped.  No sense in continuing to read somebody's typed out hissy fit.

The idiotic narrative throughout the whole thing is obvious and ill informed.

When I realized there was little thought put into it, naturally I stopped.

I'm pretty sure it was well before then that 'thinking' was stopped. It was clearly too well thought out and presented for any sort of reasoned rebuttal, which is I'm sure when those on the right stop reading because it starts to hurt. Beyond the third-grade response of "Nuh Uh!", it is clear that the right are incapable of logically refuting the numerous facts supporting the belief that Trump is, at a bare minimum, a wannabe fascist.

I don't think Trump has been able to completely reveal his love for fascism yet, there are still a few remaining guard rails like our constitution. But it's clear he is well on his way and the Republican congress has already completely ceded power to him as happens when any democracy is transitioning to fascism. America is now partially trans, half constitutional Republic, half MAGA fascism. Hopefully we can stop this before the MAGA fascists start using metaphorical scalpels to finish the job.

I'm pretty sure it was well before then that 'thinking' was stopped.

Oh look.  The personal attack when you have nothing of any value to add to a conversation.  

Trump is an authoritarian/fascist leader.

Nothing but emotional hyperbole.

Exactly what has he done to be what you claim?

Use REAL, UNBIASED sources to prove your point. 

Use REAL, UNBIASED sources to prove your point. 

By all means, do provide a list of those "REAL, UNBIASED' sources that are acceptable.

do provide a list of those "REAL, UNBIASED' sources that are acceptable.

Tell you what.

Make a list of sources you would use.

Then you will know which ones are unacceptable.

The whole premise of this seed is ridiculous, but there is nothing to be done for it. 

but there is nothing to be done for it. 

Tyler Robinson said there is.

The whole premise of this seed is ridiculous, but there is nothing to be done for it.

The scary part is that there have been 362 mass shootings in 2025 as of September 19, 2025. 

Up to 146 shootings involving children so far, and republican politicians couldn't give a shit about them. 

1 shooting involving Charlie Kirk and they lose their shit over it.  This shows where republican politicians stand as far as everyone's safety is concerned.

The Canadian substack you rely upon is hilarious pablum and not just the link you provided, the entire site is waiting room psychology. Boo!

Seems like the left's most prominent narrative has been left off the list -- Charlie Kirk deserved it.

The left hasn't condemned the violence.  The blame game only serves to provide excuses for why Kirk deserved what he got.  The left's tactics are to shift blame onto Charlie Kirk.  That's what was repulsive about Jimmy Kimmel's monologue.  Kimmel was attempting to spin a message that MAGA shot one of its own and that's a good thing.

The left hasn't condemned the violence. 

If you mean by that the left has not elevated Charlie to Saint Sebastien level you are correct, however, I can think of no one over at MSNBC other than possibly a guest who has not condemned the violence.

If you mean by that the left has not elevated Charlie to Saint Sebastien level you are correct, however, I can think of no one over at MSNBC other than possibly a guest who has not condemned the violence.

No.  I mean the left's talking points that Charlie Kirk was a hateful, vile, conservative who deserved to be silenced.  There have been a chorus on the left condemning political violence as a de rigueur platitude.  But few, if any, have condemned the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

"We condemn political violence - but - Charlie Kirk was a divisive right wing extremist who stoked political violence."  It is, after all, a shame Charlie Kirk did this to himself.  It's a backhanded way to condemn Charlie Kirk for the political violence.  

"We condemn political violence - but - Charlie Kirk was a divisive right wing extremist who stoked political violence." 

Who are you quoting, and please not some abstract personality.

Who are you quoting, and please not some abstract personality.

I am quoting the political left.  Just keep in mind its only a movement and not an organization.

I am quoting the political left.

Actually you are quoting the political right. Read the comments sections embedded in many of the linked seeds sites.

This is 'fun':

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