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"Affordability."

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  100 comments

"Affordability."
"My message to the American people who are still feeling like things are unaffordable... is, look, we get it and we hear you and we know that there's a lot of work to do.

The democrats who put a lot of time and energy into creating narratives and slogans have recently launched the one they intend to run on in the 2026 midterms; It is called "affordability."  It is another method of gaslighting recent history. Under the Biden administration the country underwent hyper-inflation, which hit a whopping 9.1%. It crushed much of working-class America. Although inflation has come down since, prices have remained high and home ownership has become more elusive. According to the reasoning of democrats, Trump is to blame for not fixing their mess as soon as he entered office. Inflation currently is at 2.9 %. In the meantime, the democrats have fought against any solutions he has tried to implement.

The measures that Donald Trump has put in place will ultimately grow the US economy. The question is will the economy improve fast enough for next year's critical midterms. Why are they critical? Because the democratic party has become a far-left revolutionary organization which has embraced Socialism and Marxism. It uses violence & lawfare. Should they regain congress, the President will immediately be impeached and his agenda will be demolished. The President is therefore in a race against time. The bright spot is that he is a master politician, and he has already begun to hijack the "affordability" mantra.

Yesterday the President sat down with NYC's newly elected Socialist mayor. They focused on shared goals. Behind the scenes GDP is expected to grow by about 3% (the Atlanta Federal Reserve Bank estimates it could be as high as 4%) for the year and the stock market continues to hit new highs as new foreign investment begins. It has turned out much differently than the recession and trade wars we were told about by the media.

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After yesterday's meeting one is left to wonder who really owns the "affordability" issue?


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    last year


"The word is affordable and affordable. It should be our word, not theirs," Trump said Monday evening during McDonald’s Impact Summit 2025 in Washington. "Because the Democrats got up in affordability, the front of it. And they don't say that they had the worst inflation in history, the highest energy prices in history. Everything was the worst. What? The great ad is lying. They say affordability. This stuff was all much more expensive." 

Trump battles Democrats over 'affordability' as key campaign message theme | Fox News

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year
It should be our word, not theirs ...

I for one cannot wait for the release of The MAGA /Trump Dicktionary/Pictionary.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.1    last year

Careful what you wish for

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1.1    last year
the democratic party has become a far-left revolutionary organization which has embraced Socialism and Marxism. It uses violence & lawfare.

I'm really looking forward to defending the US Constitution from the christo-fascists that seek to dismantle it.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    last year
Careful what you wish for

Revenge is your wish-toy, not mine.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1.1.3    last year

POS/POTUS's revenge and retribution campaign is the maga party platform ...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    last year

Trump is a showman and recognizes his like.  Not surprised at all he’d say nice things about Mamdani once Mamdani symbolically bended the knee. 

the interesting what if about the last ten years is that the democrats could have had pretty much any policy they wanted from trump if they’d simply played nice and given him a symbolic victory on the wall in 2016. Instead democrats went nuclear and got effectively nothing and saw so much of their work rolled back.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year
Mamdani symbolically bended the knee. 

Is that how FOX is now charaterizing it after spending an entire day caterauling about an uncivil war?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hallux @2.1    last year
Is that how FOX is now charaterizing i

Even DSA types recognize going to the White House and playing nice with Trump is bending the knee. What else could it be? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    last year

"bending the knee"????

Did we become a monarchy overnight?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year
Instead democrats went nuclear 

That's not going nuclear.  That's just who they are now.  Somewhere along the way, they became the party of angry white women. This is what it is now.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2    last year
Somewhere along the way, they became the party of angry white women.

No doubt that is the view of misogynistic conservatives. Democrats are the party of women, minorities and historically discriminated against Americans who are sick and tired of the moronic white Christian patriarchy that is being clung to desperately by conservatives. Conservatives are so fucking desperate they're willing to adopt many fascist ideals in their attempt to battle equality and their inevitable loss of political power. Reality has moved on without them, these are just the last gasps of brain damaged religious conservatism flailing in an attempt to stay relevant.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.1    last year

You mean you are not a fan of trad wives? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.2    last year

Married women support republicans over democrats  and the misogynistic argument is that  married women are stepford wives.  The democrats advantage with women is solely based on single women and that’s who controls the party.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.2    last year
You mean you are not a fan of trad wives?

I support trad wives in the same way I support the right of men to seek out a dominatrix. If they're an adult and they choose to be abused, spanked, whipped, it's their choice, but I think they're likely sick in the head and probably have some serious childhood trauma they should go to therapy for instead. But, they're adults and can do what they want.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.1    last year

Liberal women (and men) are angrier   and have more mental health issues  than their conservative counterparts.  Simply paying attention to the world should tell you that, but here’s the data.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.5    last year
Liberal women (and men) are angrier   and have more mental health issues  than their conservative counterparts.

Ah, so the answer to be happier as a woman is to just accept your place in the world which is as second class citizens always reliant on a male head to make decisions for them. And if they try and fight against this imposed reality they're viewed as an "angry woman" who must have mental health issues because they keep refusing to be held captive by their male masters. Those just bowing their heads and accepting the fate that the old fucking useless bigoted Christian or Muslim male dominated society forced on them are the ones with the real mental problems.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.3    last year
the misogynistic argument is that  married women are stepford wives.

There is an endless supply of You Tube videos proselytizing the traditional wife lifestyle. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.8  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.1    last year

Are you attempting to refute my statement or demonstrate its accuracy?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.6    last year
o the answer to be happier as a woman is to just accept your place in the world which is as second class citizens always reliant on a male head to make decisions for them

What are you talking about? That's a quite a strawman you are arguing against rather than dealing with reality Why can't you admit the obvious? 

hose just bowing their heads and accepting the fate that the old fucking useless bigoted Christian or Muslim male dominated society forced on them are the ones with the real mental problems.

Lol. Nothing more ironic  than progressive  men telling women they are liars because they don't live the way you demand they do, nor more dishonest than calling married women captives held by their male masers. Married women and men  are generally more happy, sorry if you've been brainwashed to think otherwise.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.7    last year
ere is an endless supply of You Tube videos proselytizing the traditional wife lifestyle.

So what? That doesn't make trad wives, or married women in general, step ford wives. Why do some women choosing to be homemakers upset progressive men so much? 

Is it that hard to believe that making their  family a priority instead of working 40 or 50 hours a week in an unfulfilling corporate drone job might make some people happy? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.10    last year

It is funny to see how things have changed. When I was younger, the progressives were the anti-corporate, "money isn't everything" party. Rebelling against corporate America and its system were its animating force. Now they are consumed with rage at the idea that some women won't dedicate their lives to maximizing their income and  slaving away to maximize shareholder value. How dare a smart women want to have a family rather then become a middle manager working 50 hours a week at a fortune 500 company until they retire? They treat them like traitors. 

While progressives may be consumed by money, others aren't necessarily .  It's time to accept that all women aren't the same and some aren't really driven to be cogs in the corporate world, though some are. And that's okay.

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.12  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.3    last year

I wish conservative women would have more (all) babies. . . because we 'know' their little babies are born PERFECT and all that this country needs in a child. /s

I say it again, any conservative woman who even attempts to use birth control or have an abortion should be outed. We need to see if they mean what they say or are just faking it for the 'cameras.'  :)

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.13  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.5    last year

I don't know, Trump is one "angry" white man who wants to terrorize (me). And, yes, I know this because I have no choice but to pay attention as I watch MAGA supporters try to scrub (me) from society! 

Nice PROJECTION, nevertheless! :)

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.14  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.8    last year
Are you attempting to refute my statement or demonstrate its accuracy?

I was just pointing out that there is plenty of justification for women to be angry. You say it like it's a bad thing, like a confederate saying "Somewhere along the way, the Union became the party of angry black slaves. This is what it is now." as if there was no reason for their anger. I think if you're a woman and you aren't a little bit pissed off at the inequality and misogyny in society around you, especially in those countries dominated by one religion or another, then you're either asleep or been brain washed and are nothing but a captive with Stockholm syndrome.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.10    last year
So what? That doesn't make trad wives, or married women in general, step ford wives.

Some of these videos I have seen are downright creepy. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.16  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.6    last year
Ah, so the answer to be happier as a woman is to just accept your place in the world which is as second class citizens always reliant on a male head to make decisions for them.

Who has this marriage you're imagining? Afghans under Taliban control?

I've been married for 35 years.  All of my friends are married. I've been hanging around other married couples for 35 years. I have literally never met a single one who operates under this fantasy that you project.

And if they try and fight against this imposed reality they're viewed as an "angry woman" who must have mental health issues because they keep refusing to be held captive by their male masters.

It's easy to mistake someone as angry when they shout and call people names.  It's easy to presume they have mental health issues when they seek care for mental health issues. 

Those just bowing their heads and accepting the fate that the old fucking useless bigoted Christian or Muslim male dominated society forced on them are the ones with the real mental problems.

The true irony here is that the most bigoted comments on this thread .... by far.... are yours.

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.17  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.6    last year

Christian nationalism is 'dead-religion walking.' Why? Because our first amendment guarantees all religions are equal. There is NO SUCH THING as Christian dominance over other religions. Time to break it to those fools persisting in delusions (of religious control).

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.18  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.16    last year
by far.... are yours.

You keep telling yourself whatever you need. Just because I don't sugar coat my opinions and I talk about my disdain for bigots, you're welcome to see me as being extremely bigoted against bigots. I can't stand white people who think they're better than other races and cultures. I can't stand men who think they're better or smarter than women. I can't stand religious people who think their brand of faith is superior to all others as they go around doling out false pity. Does that make me bigoted against those bigots? If so, then I'll accept that. I am prejudiced against white supremacists, black supremacists, misogynists, pedophiles, sexual predators, rapists and anti-education anti-science conservatives and I don't feel the least bit bad about it.

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.19  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.18    last year

Ditto. I am a Christian believer, and I have better sense than to believe that I am better than another individual or group simply because I 'elected' to be Christian. I resist such arrogance. More to the point, our faith tells us to resist arrogance-wholesale. Our nation is a republic of, by, and for, its people. Not just Christians (like me).

White Christian nationalists would do well to remember and accept this or it will not go well with them.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.20  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.14    last year
I was just pointing out that there is plenty of justification for women to be angry.

They like to think there is.  And there used to be. 

There was a time when Ivy League schools didn't admit women.  Women used to need their husband's authorization to open a bank account or get a credit card.  They used to get reduced Social Security benefits based on gender.  The presumption was that men were pilots and women were stewardesses or men were doctors and women were nurses.

But that was a very long time ago.  Now, the majority of law school students are women. The majority of med school students are women.  The majority of accountants are women.  It's socially acceptable for women to have a career or stay home with their children.

Women are far less likely to be victims of violent crime.  They are far less likely to be homeless, and less likely to commit suicide.

We even have massively stupid sayings like "believe all women".  You're only going to fall for that if you've never met one.

No, our current "feminists" have every opportunity men do and still can't stop telling everybody they're the victims.

like a confederate saying "Somewhere along the way, the Union became the party of angry black slaves.

We were talking about melodrama.  Thanks for the demonstration.

I think if you're a woman and you aren't a little bit pissed off at the inequality and misogyny in society around you, especially in those countries dominated by one religion or another, then you're either asleep or been brain washed and are nothing but a captive with Stockholm syndrome.

Y'know... ask any married woman who the boss of their family is.  The answer is almost universal.... "oh... I am... obviously".   As a card carrying member of The Patriarchy, I can absolutely tell you that the majority of our time is split between "doing shit our wives told us to do" and "trying to find a moment of peace between instructions".

The reason you don't get any traction with this eternal victim bullshit is because married people all know how stupid it is.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.21  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.18    last year
Just because I don't sugar coat my opinions and I talk about my disdain for bigots, you're welcome to see me as being extremely bigoted against bigots.

That's a fantastic rationalization.  

I can't stand religious people who think their brand of faith is superior to all others as they go around doling out false pity.

You are describing white liberals.

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.22  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.20    last year
The reason you don't get any traction with this eternal victim bullshit is because married people all know how stupid it is.

And yet Trump still is 'bitchin' - just yesterday that he won the 2020 election. . . and there is more: He wants to spend time, effort, and resources to 'prove it" (he can not.) 

Sorry, Jack_Tx, Trump is a "eternally" dripping wet with victimhood. And nary a MAGA supporter will tell him to cut it out! Oh and "Donald" has the nerve to keep stating the old 'saw': 'Had I been president in 2021 (what does he think we can do about that now?) the Russia/Ukraine war would not have happened'? A fine example of a fool yet 'pouting' about loss. Most mature adults would let it go. . . the first year—but as we still in see in 2025 not the 'Bitter' ones!

What Trump needs more of is people around him that will tell him to grow up, and be a less petty man/president. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.23  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.10    last year
Is it that hard to believe that making their  family a priority instead of working 40 or 50 hours a week in an unfulfilling corporate drone job might make some people happy? 

Does this apply to both men and women or just women?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.24  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.20    last year
As a card carrying member of The Patriarchy, I can absolutely tell you that the majority of our time is split between "doing shit our wives told us to do" and "trying to find a moment of peace between instructions".

Poor you. Mr Giggles doesn't need me to tell him what needs to be done. He finds it and does it. If anything he's always telling me what to do

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.25  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @2.2.22    last year
Had I been president in 2021 (what does he think we can do about that now?) the Russia/Ukraine war would not have happened'? A

He's delusional or lying. Putin would have walked over the Ukrainian border if trmp had one and trmp would be applauding Putin

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.26  Jack_TX  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.24    last year
If anything he's always telling me what to do

And you willingly accept that patriarchal oppression?  

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.27  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.25    last year

The larger point is this: Donald knows there is no way to prove him right or wrong about it. Time, of course, has moved on to the current problem: Russia and Ukraine at war and Trump NOT able to end it as promised "Day One." The assumption being Trump would have had communications with both combatant leaders during his 2024 campaign. Clearly, he was talking out of his pie/lie 'hole.'

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.28  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.26    last year

I ignore him

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.29  Jack_TX  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.28    last year
I ignore him

Right.  OK.

So this whole "patriarchy" thing isn't real at all, is it.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.30  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.29    last year

I think it's funny that your wife orders you around

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.31  Jack_TX  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.30    last year
I think it's funny that your wife orders you around

I'm glad.  It's the simply pleasures in life, really, isn't it?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.32  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.31    last year

If you like being subservient....

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.33  Jack_TX  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.32    last year
If you like being subservient....

I was talking about you.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.34  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.33    last year

lol

sure you were

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year

Trump may have just taken all the air out of any future argument by Mamdani that Trump tried to undermine his efforts.

 
 
 
CB
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2.3.1  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.3    last year

It would seem you think Trump has 'stolen Mamdani's thunder'. . . but if one person can see through the subterfuge attempt. . . .

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.3.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @2.3.1    last year
It would seem you think Trump has 'stolen Mamdani's thunder'

Mamdani made a mistake by appearing with Trump. Mamdani's base considers Trump the evil incarnate. 

For MAGA supporters, we know that Trump is transactional in order to get things done.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.3.3  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.3.2    last year
Mamdani made a mistake by appearing with Trump

Would not surprise me if he starts getting death threats from some on his far left base. 

 
 
 
CB
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2.3.4  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.3.2    last year

Well, we outside of New York are yet to see how Mamdani fares under the scrutiny of the MAGA 'force' aligned against him. He, if he is any kind of intellect, should know that MAGA supporters are going to be watching him like a hawk for any chance no matter how trivial to pounce and pluck his feathers clean off him.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.3.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @2.3.4    11 months ago

It is all in his hands now

 
 
 
CB
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2.3.6  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.3.5    11 months ago

Sure. Let's see how it goes. . . . 

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Vic Eldred
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2.3.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @2.3.6    11 months ago

We know how it goes. Just ask the Cubans or the Venezuelans.

 
 
 
CB
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2.3.8  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.3.7    11 months ago

I'm sorry. . . I have no clue what that curt remark means. :)

 
 
 
Snuffy
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According to the reasoning of democrats, Trump is to blame for not fixing their mess as soon as he entered office.

Let's be fair, Trump did campaign on his ability to 'fix' this on day 1. Common sense says there's no way he could have been able to do this but he did set himself up for this so it's understandable that the Democrats will use this to hammer him. 

While inflation is down from where it was at, prices have not come down much which TBH is expected. It will take much longer than just one year for wages to increase to compensate for the price increases caused by inflation. I believe this is why he's floating the $2000 tariff checks for the middle of next year. Rather Bidenesque of him to float a measure to buy votes.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1  CB  replied to  Snuffy @3    last year

The GOP has no shame. And I do not say this likely. As it is clear, the circumlocution and projection by MAGA supporters is not helping our country. We spend a 'god-awful' about of time fighting 'endless' rhetorical war against people like Trump and MAGA supporters. Why just this Saturday AM Trump is on the air 'endlessly' stating that the Ukraine war would not have started if he was president instead of Biden. What is absent from the logic is- he is the same individual who LOST to Biden because he could not beat Biden. 

But, do not mention that aspect aloud. /s

Therefore, since "Donald" lost to Biden, according to Donald, Russia took the 'liberty' to invade Ukraine. But here is the kicker, 'numb-nuts Donald' doe not even realize that according to his logic, his 'strength' with Russia and potentially with  Ukraine should have manifested in the war being over in minutes of him taking office. . . as he PROMISED IT WOULD BE.

It was a lie then and it an irresponsible lie now.

Donald Trump is one old (sick) pathological liar who can not tell matters straight if his feet were glued to its path.  

Hopefully, this nation will learn from Donald not to just let pathologically ill business types to hold public office. Little to nothing good comes out of a pathological liar.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1.1  Snuffy  replied to  CB @3.1    last year
The GOP has no shame.

Neither does the Democrats. It doesn't matter which political party gains the majority in Congress as the loser is always the American people. They don't care about us, it's all a game for them to obtain more money and power. 

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.2  CB  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.1    last year

Well, the democrats do want people like me to have jobs that republicans won't give 'us.' Republicans think people like me have 'cooties.' So, I'd imagine democrats are 'caring.' :) What say you?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1.3  Snuffy  replied to  CB @3.1.2    last year
Well, the democrats do want people like me to have jobs that republicans won't give 'us.'

In other words you prefer democrats because they GIVE you stuff whereas republicans want you to EARN it. All that free stuff has to be paid for somehow. How long can that free stuff be given out before the entire country is bankrupt and sleeping over a steam grate?

Republicans think people like me have 'cooties.' So, I'd imagine democrats are 'caring.' 

I don't even know how to respond to this. What are you, 11? 

You don't like Trump? Not an issue, hell I don't care for him myself. But ignoring the problems that BOTH parties continue to bring is missing the forest for the trees. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.3    last year
In other words you prefer democrats because they GIVE you stuff whereas republicans want you to EARN it. All that free stuff has to be paid for somehow. How long can that free stuff be given out before the entire country is bankrupt and sleeping over a steam grate?

CB doesnt mention being "given" a job, but that is your take. People are not given jobs, they are hired. 

Or do workers "give" the boss and the company their labor? 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1.5  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    last year

Nope, his line was that democrats want people like him to have jobs that republicans WON'T GIVE. Easy to understand.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.5    last year

People are not "given" jobs. 

In other words you prefer democrats because they GIVE you stuff whereas republicans want you to EARN it. All that free stuff has to be paid for somehow. How long can that free stuff be given out before the entire country is bankrupt and sleeping over a steam grate?

Your comment has almost nothing to do with someone being hired to a job. It doesnt even have anything to do with someone being "given" a job. 

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.7  CB  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.3    last year

Your comment is oblique, thus it misses the point. Damn, the time taken to come up with alternative meanings to direct points is gob-smacking. Well, I won't bother further clarifying an already clear message. So have at it as you wish. 

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.8  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    last year

Thank you JR. The amount of time spent by some people here to use a comment as a pretext to state a red herring fallacy is. . . disturbing. One would think conservatives are from Pluto and liberals from Jupiter or some such places. 

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.9  CB  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.5    last year

I suggest you read in context and not deploy any pretext .

Well, the democrats do want people like me to have jobs that republicans won't give 'us.'  Republicans think people like me have 'cooties.'  So, I'd imagine democrats are 'caring.' jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png   What say you?


The question at the end of the paragraph signifies the importance of applying context to the answer forthcoming.

So here is a couple of definitions:

Pretext :
pretext  /prē′tĕkst″/ noun
  1. A reason or excuse given to hide the real reason for something.
  2. Ostensible reason or motive assigned or assumed as a color or cover for the real reason or motive; pretense; disguise.
    Similar:  pretense disguise

Context :  

context  /kŏn′tĕkst″/
  1. The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning.
  2. The circumstances in which an event occurs; a setting.
  3. The part or parts of something written or printed, as of Scripture, which precede or follow a text or quoted sentence, or are so intimately associated with it as to throw light upon its meaning.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition 
Trump and the speaker of the house pretexted the democrat ad message to the armed forces this week, and it blew up in both their faces making them both look inept at reading comprehension. 
 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1.10  Snuffy  replied to  CB @3.1.7    last year

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Thought you might like to have a conversation but guess not. And we're done.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.11  CB  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.10    last year

Ditto. jrSmiley_76_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @3.1.2    last year
So, I'd imagine democrats are 'caring.

As long as you understand it's all in your imagination.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.13  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.6    last year
People are not "given" jobs.

You probably need to clarify that with CB.  It's his term

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.14  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.13    last year

Not necessary. It takes a "special talent" to misunderstand the context of my comment-especially after I took the extraordinary step of providing farther clarity at 3.1.9.

I would copy/paste 3.1.1 here but that would be superfluous.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.15  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.12    last year

And some lack consideration, understanding, and the ability to accept too. Seems to be the case here. One word, "give" is doing "triple duty" here well beyond anything I could imagine  for it. And, one wonders why the two 'sides' can't come together. This thread seems to be:  Stuck on stupid.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.3    last year
In other words you prefer democrats because they GIVE you stuff whereas republicans want you to EARN it.

We saw how that "free stuff" / taxpayer funded stuff, worked out during the shutdown the democrats forced.  SNAP benefits stopped, air travel problems, people not getting paid.  They always forget that the people giving them the "free stuff" can also cut it off.  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.17  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @3.1.15    last year
And some lack consideration, understanding, and the ability to accept too. Seems to be the case here. One word, "give" is doing "triple duty" here well beyond anything I could imagine  for it. And, one wonders why the two 'sides' can't come together. This thread seems to be:  Stuck on stupid.

The belief that politicians are more likely to "care" about you based on the party who funds them is indeed "stuck on stupid".  

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.18  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.17    last year

Well, one thing for sure. . . the GOP does not give a damn about its own: Marjorie Taylor Green is heading out the house into the fields: thanks to MAGA lackeys wishing to 'hide' the files which a good citizens wish to see given the 'sunlight' treatment. That's. . . wait for it: Stuck on Stupid.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.19  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @3.1.18    last year
That's. . . wait for it: Stuck on Stupid.

You are suggesting that Marjorie Taylor Greene.... a person as famous as AOC for her stupidity... leaving Congress is somehow bad for the country?    

How does that work, exactly?

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.20  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.19    last year

Ask a MAGA lackey, Marjorie is no kin or friend to me and mine. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Snuffy @3    last year
Rather Bidenesque of him to float a measure to buy votes.

giggle

that's funny and I'm not being sarcastic

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    last year

The only value to an article like this is that it can be used to point out preposterous political propaganda. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year
The only value to an article like this is that it can

make you cry.  Again.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    last year

And here's where Democrats succeed because of the gullibility of the average voter. Prices are significantly  higher than they were when Trump took office the first time, largely because of the massive inflation under Biden. Inflation is down under Trump but it's never going away and prices aren't ever going to go down. 

But the idea that democrats can make things affordable is laughable.  The most expensive places to live are blue states. The cheapest red.  Imagine thinking the policies that turned a state like Illinois into the wreck that it is will somehow work wonders if spread to the nation at large.  Regulation, taxes and massive government spending cause prices to go up. That's as basic an economic law as exists.  The proof is literally in the pudding if one only looks at the laboratory of America.

But Democrats rely on the gullibility of voters and their allies in the media to push their narrative. People don't like to be told the government can't magically fix things without sacrifice.  When Mamdani fails to make things more affordable he'll blame Republicans (and Jews) and claim if he's reelected with  more power, his magic government will solve all the problems. It's worked for decades in blue areas, it will continue to so.  There's no reason to expect voters won't fall for empty promise anytime soon.   

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    last year
The most expensive places to live are blue states. The cheapest red.

It's called supply and demand. More people want to live in Blue States and blue cities, so the demand is higher, thus the prices are higher. It's pretty simple math. The majority of blue States are donor States like California that pay more into the federal government than they take, unlike the majority of red States that are nothing but a drain on our economy. The gullible voters are the dumb fuck conservative voters thinking everyone wants to be like them, ignoring and ridiculing higher education, crying over lost coal mining jobs that took little to no education which were the jobs religious conservatives preferred since that way they could avoid learning any facts that run counter to their faith.

Mamdani will do fine, NY'ers will support him and NY will prosper under his leadership. All the whining crying moaning fascists out there trying to tear him down will continue to get nothing but disappointment in the fact that all their rhetoric turned out to be about as valuable as a truck full of snot at a Kleenex convention.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1    last year
It's called supply and demand. More people want to live in Blue States

Right. That's the left wing fantasy that completely ignores reality. Imagine believing people are fleeing Florida, Texas etc and flocking to the Illinois and New Yorks of the world.  Even California, which for a century served as the mecca for internal migration due it's weather now exports citizens to the rest of the country and imports foreign immigrants to try and maintain its population.

In fact the five most high cost states are California, New York, Massachusetts, Illinois and New Jersey. All reliably blue and those five are the states with the highest internal migration deficits among the 50 states. 

Though it's funny you grasp that and support massive migration which has contributed to affordability issues across the country 

You claim to get more people increases demand and causes prices to rise and still support the party doing it's damndest to flood the country with foreigners.

Amazing.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    last year
Right. People are fleeing Florida, Texas etc and flocking to the Illinois and New Yorks of the world.

There are people leaving some blue States and cities because they're TOO popular and prices have risen making them less affordable. The blue cities and States are still the most populated even with those leaving for cheaper areas like dead end red States and cities that have no other draw than that they are cheap.

Though it's funny you grasp that and support massive migration which has contributed to affordability issues across the country. You claim to get more people increases demand and causes prices to rise and still support the party doing it's damndest to flood the country with foreigners.

While an increase in a specific overcrowded area like a prosperous blue State with incredible natural beauty and amazing year-round weather like California can see increases in the cost of living as the population increases, you also see an increase in job opportunities and the increased population creating larger customer bases. And for communities that are slowly dying the influx of new residents can be a huge boon. Increased legal immigration boosts our economy and creates more jobs than they take away. It's an overall net gain which is why I support it. Only brain-dead conservative bigots oppose increased legal immigration because they stupidly think nothing should change, they should still be mining coal and paying 99 cents for a loaf of bread in their rural village of 150 people. They can't understand why others would be fine paying $5 for that bread and think the world has gone to hell because they're not getting retrained for the jobs that pay $50 an hour that would allow them to afford the $5 bread. They're still pining for their $10 an hour job and 99 cent bread instead of just nutting up, going back to school and get a better job so they can still buy the same 10 loaves of bread per hour of work.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.2    last year
people leaving some blue States and cities because they're TOO popular and prices have risen making them less affordable.

That's comedy.  Kamala Harris lost the election because she's too popular!  Orwell couldn't imagine the lengths you are going too.. 

And for communities that are slowly dying the influx of new residents can be a huge boon

They are only dying because blue state policies pushed their residents to leave. How do you not grasp that? 

are slowly dying the influx of new residents can be a huge boon.

what world are you living in?  Migrants have put severe stress on the economies of blue cities like New York, chicago, denver and caused tax increases and service cuts to pay for their care. This is all easily acceessible from online sources..

. Ty can't understand why others would be fihene paying $5 for that bread and think the world has gone to hell because they're not getting retrained for the jobs that pay $50 an hour that would allow them to afford the $5 bread. T

So now you are claiming the affordability crisis is a myth. Good luck with that. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.3    last year
Kamala Harris lost the election because she's too popular!

? Not sure where you got that one. High populations in blue States does not equate to some fantasy Harris support so no clue why you'd drag out that dead horse and start beating on it.

They are only dying because blue state policies pushed their residents to leave. How do you not grasp that?

The blue States and cities that have high costs aren't dying, they still have plenty of people which is why the costs are still so high. The places that have been dying and need an influx of immigrants are the backwards rural red States and cities that have had declining populations for decades.

So now you are claiming the affordability crisis is a myth. Good luck with that.

Not claiming it's a myth, the affordability crisis is real. It's just that those who have already transitioned to higher paying jobs and got retrained for skilled work aren't feeling the pain like those who didn't because they're able to still afford that bread loaf or gallon of gas for $5.

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.5  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.3    last year

People move around. . . it's why we have 10 year census taking. So there is nothing to note about people moving inside the nation. Now then, if people start moving out of the country. . . .

Once again, MAGA tries to split we the people (all of us) over bull--it, and of course the weak-minded will fall for it. Solution: Hey! Weak-minded people- buck the "h" up!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.4    last year
igh populations in blue States does not equate to some fantasy Harris support

Its because you don't don't understand the word popular. People have been fleeing blue states for a long time. Claiming states that are losing Americans are too  popular is just asinine.

The blue States and cities that have high costs aren't dying, 

You ae the one who  described cities that import migrants to maintain their population as slowly dying, not me. It's only by importing migrants that states like New York, Illinois and California are able to minimize population loss. Whatever you call it, that what's happening. 

It's just that those who have already transitioned to higher paying jobs and got retrained for skilled work aren't feeling the pain like those who didn't because they're able to still afford that bread loaf or gallon of gas for $5

Yes, no kidding. Rich people are immune to price increases. Again, the "affordability crisis" is why a communist was just elected in New York City. It perfectly demonstrated just how bad blue city policies have been for those who aren't wealthy.   

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @5.1.5    last year
So there is nothing to note about people moving inside the nation

That's silly. People vote with their feet.  It's not good for a state to be so unaffordable they drive their own citizens to leave. You get that, right? 

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.8  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.6    last year
People have been fleeing blue states for a long time.

Er' you do realize that some of those people are moving back to blue states after a while. Also, it is. . .'appropriate' that people who develop a MAGA-strain should go be with MAG—wait! Marjorie Taylor Green says MAGA is 'falling away' under Donald. . . 'Winter' is coming. 

Also do be careful what you wish for: Liberals coming to your alleged "pristine' locations on the map. It could get very interesting as well as politically 'dicey.' 

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.9  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.7    last year

Feed red state citizens or else. BTW, what is MAGA supporters gonna do without Obamacare?! OMG! Will they be 'voting with their feet (AGAIN)?!!!!!

Oh and do keep 'red' states children home. Away from 'blue' states so that we can be blue states FIRST without worrying about helping them since conservatives can't or won't.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @5.1.8    last year

I wish more would move to Arkansas. Then maybe we could get out from these red chains

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.11  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.10    last year

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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6  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year
Should they regain congress, the President will immediately be impeached and his agenda will be demolished.

The only problem with that is that there has to be justification for an impeachment.  Making Democrats look like shit doesn't qualify as an impeachable offense.  Especially when the Democrats make themselves look like shit.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7  TᵢG    last year
The measures that Donald Trump has put in place will ultimately grow the US economy.

Bullshit.   Trump has damaged our nation and hindered our growth.   How can some not see this?

 
 
 
CB
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7.1  CB  replied to  TᵢG @7    last year

Because MAGA supporters are as selfish as "Leader Trump." They really have deluded themselves into thinking they can run this entire country while dragging half of its citizens around in suppression. Trump believes that too! They believe they can reconstruct the past 'glory days' of conservative dominance. . .if they can just follow the constitution to its end. . . because the document itself is static—without and lacking conservative support for new change/amendment.

BTW, to be open about this. Some of Trump's points are worthwhile, but (and it is a big but) he can not and must not be granted license to steamroll (flatten) and ditch the rule of law for the sake of expediency and personal legacy. We are a nation that functions through order; not chaos and free-wheeling by a single unbound leader. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8  TᵢG    last year
Because the democratic party has become a far-left revolutionary organization which has embraced Socialism and Marxism.

Emotional nonsense.   The Ds embrace social democracy.   People should not fester in ignorance —tossing out emotive labels with contrived alternate meaning— and focus on reality.   

 
 
 
TᵢG
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9  TᵢG    last year
Should they regain congress, the President will immediately be impeached and his agenda will be demolished.

Trump is a fine example of a PotUS who should be impeached, convicted, and removed for cause.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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10  Trout Giggles    last year

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JohnRussell
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11  JohnRussell    last year

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