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There are no book bans in the US.....

  

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Via:  s  •  11 months ago  •  15 comments

There are no book bans in the US.....

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Europeans play this delusional game where they insist they have complete free speech, and then when you mention the things they can’t say or read, they declare that to be hate speech which totally isn’t free speech. It’s “No True Scotsman” for a continent in cultural decline.

They take everything they’re not allowed to say, post, or read, and conveniently declare that speech as “not free speech” and therefore by definition they have complete free speech because they can say all the things it’s approved and popular to say.

Meanwhile, these delusional folks insist that the U.S. has book bans because a local library may not spend taxpayer money on a book which is still available for anyone to buy on Amazon. It’s a continent of deluded, watching their culture and freedom being torn down around them, trying to convince themselves that all is well and besides the neighbor’s grass is a bit overgrown.

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Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Sean Treacy    11 months ago

On the one hand it's funny to walk into a book store and see a display front and center called "banned books".  How can you miss the point that badly?

But's on the other it's a tactic by used by those who actually do favor censorship to equate real censorship with non-existent  censorship. "we aren't that bad. We throw people in jail for posting pictures of Winnie the pooh.  Your libraries sometimes move books from the kids section to the adult section in accordance with the book's publisher's recommendations.  Everybody censors.  There's no difference between the two"

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    11 months ago
 It’s a continent of deluded, watching their culture and freedom being torn down around them, trying to convince themselves that all is well and besides the neighbor’s grass is a bit overgrown.

An odd comment. The "freedom" people like this complain about losing is the freedom to be a racist and cultural bigot. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2    11 months ago
The "freedom" people like this complain about losing is the freedom to be a racist and cultural bigot. 

Lol. Thanks John for the perfect example.  "Everything I disagree with is racist and bigoted" and is hate speech.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3  Ozzwald    11 months ago

From Google AI from the question "Are there any book bans in the US?":

Yes, book bans are actively happening across the U.S., with thousands of titles removed from schools , especially in states like Florida, Texas, and Tennessee, driven by conservative efforts targeting books about race, LGBTQ+ topics, and sexuality, affecting nearly every state and becoming a "new normal" in education since 2021.  
Key Statistics & Trends (2024-2025 School Year)
  • Widespread Activity : Over 6,800 instances of book bans occurred across 23 states and 87 school districts.
  • Top States : Florida led with 2,304 bans, followed by Texas (1,781) and Tennessee (1,622).
  • Targeted Topics : Books focusing on race, racism, LGBTQ+ individuals, and sexual content are most frequently challenged.
  • Fueled by Legislation : Laws like Florida's "Don't Say Gay" bill (HB 1557) have empowered challenges, notes the   Free Speech Center .  
Who's Behind It?
  • Republican lawmakers and conservative advocacy groups are largely behind these efforts, turning book challenges into a widespread cultural phenomenon
 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Ozzwald @3    11 months ago

One aspect of book banning is removing books from schools and libraries, but the seed argues that as long as you can buy the book on Amazon the book is not banned. 

It IS banned in certain venues, the fact you can buy it doesnt negate that fact. 

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.2  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @3    11 months ago

Those books are not banned, they are just not allowed in school libraries. You can get any of them in a bookstore or online.

Leftists need to stop lying…….and Google AI is nothing more than a regurgitation of stuff that is already out there, including far left wing trash like Wikipedia. Same with Chat Gtp and whatever this site uses.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @3.2    11 months ago
Those books are not banned, they are just not allowed in school libraries.

So what you are saying is that the books are not banned, they are just banned from school libraries????????

You can get any of them in a bookstore or online.

So by your way of thinking, a book is never considered banned because you can always get it even if you have to travel outside the US.

Leftists need to stop lying

I think that needs to go the other way.  Right wingers are clearly banning books in various locales.  Just because it is not a universal ban does not mean the books have been banned.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.3  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @3    11 months ago

Lol. Give me the titles of books you can get arrested for. \

I appreciate you making the author's point so perfectly though. Well done.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.3.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3    11 months ago
Give me the titles of books you can get arrested for.

What do criminal laws have to do with book banning?????

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devangelical
Professor Principal
4  devangelical    11 months ago
folks insist that the U.S. has book bans because a local library may not spend taxpayer money on a book which is still available for anyone to buy

never mind the facts of religious trash trying to end run the first amendment, obstructing the wide assortment literary choices available free to borrow from the public library system, and attempting to be the major proponents of oversight to what the library offers to the public themselves involved in the same sexual antics they wish to keep others from reading about. the poor GOP, from the moral majority to the tea party, to a support group for maga child molesters. it's interesting to watch the republican party as they devolve from what they were in the long ago, to the eventual party of organ donors that they will become in the future.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
4.1  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @4    11 months ago

‘never mind the facts of religious trash trying to end run the first amendment, obstructing the wide assortment literary choices available free to borrow from the public library system, and attempting to be the major proponents of oversight to what the library offers to the public themselves involved in the same sexual antics’

Exactly What books can you not get from public libraries or buy at any retail location or site?

Far leftisrs like Stephen King whine that their books are banned but you can find every one of them in bookstores or Amazon. 
nothing is banned.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.1  devangelical  replied to  bugsy @4.1    11 months ago

maybe you'd care to explain why the laughably so called defenders of the constitution would allow a religious minority to exert any moral control over freedom of expression and then determine what should or should not be available to borrow from a public library supported by all taxpayers in a secular government. no thumper POS tells me what to do in america, by law.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5  Tacos!    11 months ago
Europeans play this delusional game where they insist they have complete free speech, and then when you mention the things they can’t say or read, they declare that to be hate speech which totally isn’t free speech.

The United States also has limitations on speech. In general, I would say we have freer speech than most European countries, but no country has completely free speech. How we define “free speech” can vary, and so depending on who you ask, other countries may be said to have freer speech than we do. The main differences are in the protection of offensive speech, and there is a reasonable debate to be had about which makes for a better society.

Personally, I’d like to see some limits on the ability of government to lie - from the president to police officers.

Meanwhile, these delusional folks insist that the U.S. has book bans because a local library may not spend taxpayer money on a book which is still available for anyone to buy on Amazon.

The library is a free service provided by the government. It can be a critical resource for those who can’t afford to go buying books on Amazon. If a library cannot obtain a book, that is disappointing, but it’s not censorship. When the library refuses to make available a book that it has already, on the grounds that its content is objectionable, that is censorship - specifically, a book ban, for those who can’t afford to get it any other way.

Simply saying “you can just buy books on Amazon” is pretty fucking out of touch.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @5    11 months ago
Simply saying “you can just buy books on Amazon” is pretty fucking out of touch.

"books are not provided for free" is not the same as a book ban, and it's even more out of touch with reality to think it is. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1    11 months ago
"books are not provided for free" is not the same as a book ban

It is when books are provided for free - except for this one your government doesn’t like.

The context was already there in my original post. You just have to be willing to hear it.

 
 

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