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Republican Women Suddenly Realize They’re Surrounded by Misogynists

  

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Via:  hallux  •  11 months ago  •  34 comments

By:   Michelle Goldberg - NYT

Republican Women Suddenly Realize They’re Surrounded by Misogynists
For years it was almost a truism that the first woman president would probably be a Republican, some steely American version of Margaret Thatcher in high heels and pearls.

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In 1982, Phyllis Schlafly, perhaps the most important anti-feminist in American history, debated the radical feminist law professor Catharine MacKinnon. Schlafly believed that sexism was a thing of the past; to her, if women had different roles in society than men, it was due to their distinct talents and inclinations. She herself, she said, had never experienced discrimination.

MacKinnon pointed out that Schlafly, who’d written extensively about defense policy, had wanted a position in Ronald Reagan’s Pentagon. Any man with Schlafly’s considerable accomplishments, MacKinnon argued, would have been given a job. Schlafly had to concede that her feminist foe had a point.

An ambitious woman who is willing to absolve the right of misogyny can go far, but rarely can she achieve the same status as a man. That’s especially true today, in a Republican Party that’s increasingly giving itself over to the most retrograde forms of sexism.

Recently several Republican congresswomen have been complaining, on and off the record, that their party’s leaders, especially Mike Johnson, the House speaker, don’t take them seriously. It started with Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a onetime MAGA icon who is resigning next month. “They want women just to go along with whatever they’re doing and basically to stand there, smile and clap with approval, whereas they just have their good old boys club,” she said in September. It turns out she’s not alone in her frustration.

Last week, The Times   reported   on Republican women in Congress who say that Johnson “failed to listen to them or engage in direct conversations on major political and policy issues,” which they seemed to attribute to his highly patriarchal evangelical Christianity. (He recently said that women, unlike men, are unable to “compartmentalize” their thoughts.)





Feeling sidelined by Johnson, some Republican women are defying him. All but one of the House Republicans who bucked leadership to force a vote on releasing the Epstein files were women. Of the eight Republicans who joined with Democrats in November to try to censure their fellow Republican Cory Mills — who has been accused  of threatening his ex with revenge porn — six were women.





Recently, rumors have swirled that Nancy Mace, who is running for governor of South Carolina, could soon follow Greene in quitting the House before the end of her term. Mace has denied this, but her disgruntlement is no secret. On Monday, she   wrote in The Times , “Women will never be taken seriously until leadership decides to take us seriously, and I’m no longer holding my breath.”

It’s tempting to roll one’s eyes at women who are shocked, shocked to discover sexism in a political party led by Donald Trump. But it’s a sign of progress that these women are not responding as Schlafly did, demurely accepting their subordinate position within conservatism. They may not all call themselves feminists — though at times Mace has — but they’ve internalized basic feminist assumptions about their entitlement to equal treatment. What they’ve failed to understand, however, is that those aren’t assumptions their party shares.

Much has been made about the rebirth of gutter antisemitism and racism within the conservative movement. There’s been less public alarm about the resurgence of unapologetic misogyny. Last month, there was an uproar over the support that the Heritage Foundation’s president, Kevin Roberts, offered to Tucker Carson after his softball interview with Nick Fuentes, the influential antisemite. We’ve seen far less backlash to Heritage’s hiring of Scott Yenor, who   believes   that workplace discrimination against women should be legal, as head of its B. Kenneth Simon Center for American Studies. Among the sort of young men who revel in transgressive antisemitism — which is to say, among much of the conservative movement’s rising generation — calls to repeal women’s right to vote have become commonplace.

Not long ago, most Republicans at least pretended to accept liberal premises about human equality, sometimes even gloating about one-upping Democrats on diversity. In 2008, Republicans tried to capitalize on the disappointment some women felt about Hillary Clinton’s primary loss by putting Sarah Palin on their ticket. There was a moment in 2011 when Michele Bachmann was a leading candidate in the Republican presidential primary race. For years it was almost a truism that the first woman president would probably be a Republican, some steely American version of Margaret Thatcher in high heels and pearls. Republicans didn’t want to raise up women as a group, but they valorized a certain kind of powerful woman, one who disdained feminism and proved through her success that the strong didn’t need it.

Today, however, Republicans are much less defensive about being the party of chest-beating patriarchy. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has   purged   women from the highest ranks of the military. Johnson has attributed school shootings to the “amoral society” wrought by “radical feminism” and the sexual revolution and has said Americans should strive to live by “18th-century values.” Vice President JD Vance is famously contemptuous of women without children.

And the lower levels of the administration are littered with defiant chauvinists. Paul Ingrassia, who Trump recently made deputy general counsel at the General Services Administration, is probably best known for a leaked email where he referred to his “Nazi streak.” But he also   reportedly   intervened during a federal investigation on behalf of the misogynist influencer Andrew Tate — who is his former client and has been accused of sex trafficking — after electronic devices belonging to Tate and his brother were seized at the border, and he   called   opposition to women’s suffrage “very based,” a term of high praise on the right.

There are still plenty of opportunities in the MAGA movement for women who embody Trump’s preferred style of hyper-femininity, espouse traditional gender roles, or both. Indeed, the president’s obsession with aesthetics can open doors for women who might otherwise never have careers in politics. Many Republicans like having beautiful women around, and they appreciate being able to put a feminine face on their culture war crusades. But as some women in the party are realizing, there’s a big difference between being useful and being respected.


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Hallux
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1  seeder  Hallux    11 months ago

"For years it was almost a truism that the first woman president would probably be a Republican, some steely American version of Margaret Thatcher."

That got blown out of the neo-swamp with the ostracization of Liz Cheney by a muddle of morons.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1    11 months ago
Phyllis Schlafly, perhaps the most important anti-feminist in American history

and leading collector of male arms that had been gnawed off at the shoulder by their previous owners in her bed ...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hallux @1    11 months ago

Many times I've posted that I admire Liz Cheney for puting principle and integrity above party loyalty even risking and being ostracized by the Republican Party and her electorate that lack those qualities.  IMO she should be the first woman PotUS.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.2.1  Snuffy  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2    11 months ago

I agree, she basically dumped the party over her principle. She did what so many politicians cannot do as they are beholden to the party. There's just too much money and power in the two parties so it's difficult to go against them. But I don't think she would ever win a presidential election as she would never win the Republican nomination and I have a hard time seeing her win the Democrat nomination. Without one of those two parties backing her, I doubt she would ever stand a chance to win. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Snuffy @1.2.1    11 months ago

Seems to me to be so many people disenchanted with both major parties, now may be the time for a new one, more so than those that fell by the wayside previously.  However, in America, a political party needs a lot of money to get started, so you're probably right about the present entrenchment of the two present ones.

 
 
 
evilone
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2  evilone    11 months ago

I've been saying this for many, many years. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    11 months ago
Johnson has attributed school shootings to the “amoral society” wrought by “radical feminism” and the sexual revolution and has said Americans should strive to live by “18th-century values.”

Just what are 18th century values? Women being raped with impunity because there are no laws to protect them? Dying before the age of 40 because of having too many children? Slavery?????

Mike Johnson can kiss my big, fat, feminist ass

 
 
 
evilone
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3.1  evilone  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    11 months ago
Just what are 18th century values?

Straight, white, male landowners, that defer to the church and run all things.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @3.1    11 months ago

eh....

I've cussed enough today

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.2  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.1    11 months ago
I've cussed enough today

I look forward to tomorrow's edition.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @3.1.2    11 months ago

Tomorrow is here!

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    11 months ago

maga bitches be confused that they only really call the shots when their clothes are off ...

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.3  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    11 months ago
ust what are 18th century values? Women being raped with impunity because there are no laws to protect them? Dying before the age of 40 because of having too many children? Slavery?????

well, there were negatives to this chronillogical increment asz well, cause Johnson seems too tense, sorta like a recent former VP named Pence, a religious zealot who at least could differentiate B tween the grabber of pussies and asz wholes taint nut thin butt a phat asz Orange clown who wood have hung him upside down just to pull his and our legs, cuz who can't relate to women having to beg men for any and all irregardless of how big or small these dix e crat clowns were, asz the (R's)shore a pier to have known how to keep a Fe male down, asz he continue to tri and bend, and until our country wakes the fck up, the fck up in our White Power House of pains, will cun tinue the cursive trend that grabbed US and our attention, as he has done since the (Rs) allowed the dis grace to becum the face that Bubba made Trump, make America White sailors happy and gay while they bare it till the mesage be a send, asz they swim for the exact reason Trumps' treason will fckn fck him in the rear, and in     ,the  end

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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3.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    11 months ago

They want women to return to being financially and socially dependent on men.  Because then more men can have a cook, maid, nanny, gardener, and baby factory at home. Men who can't convince a woman to do that now, because we can support ourselves.  But they'd like every man to be able to have a wife under his thumb.

Not for free, of course.  He'd have to feed her now and then, buy clothes or fabric, etc., to make clothes.  But if she didn't perform her duties to his satisfaction, he'd be free to apply a little "domestic correction" with his hands or his belt.  Nothing thicker than his thumb, right?  That would be going too far.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.4.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.4    11 months ago

I'm too old to go back to those ways

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.4.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.4.1    11 months ago

I'm in favor of maga females losing their right to vote ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.4.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @3.4.2    11 months ago

I'm not. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and hope they turn their lives around

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.4.4  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.4.3    11 months ago

yeah, that's worked out well the last 60 years ...

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.4.5  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.4.3    11 months ago
hope they turn their lives around

you could probably kick start that idea by neutering all maga first ...

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.5  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    11 months ago
Mike Johnson can kiss my big, fat, feminist ass

LOL, he doesn't like women ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.5.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @3.5    11 months ago

He doesn't have to like women to kiss my ass. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.5.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.5.1    11 months ago

he's got a thumper app on his phone that keeps him from sucking maga prong and humping kids, so you're probably safe ...

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.5.3  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @3.5.2    11 months ago

... oops

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4  Bob Nelson    11 months ago

The fascists have been completely open about attacking non-Whites. Black and Latino support for Trump has collapsed.

The fascists have been equally open about attacking women, but not so vocal. Perhaps women are capable of seeing what's happening...  jrSmiley_19_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @4    11 months ago

Most of us are not as dumb as they think we are

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1    11 months ago
not as dumb as they think we are

that's the main weakness of those that aren't as smart as they think they are ...

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1    11 months ago

... wouldn't touch that with a ten-foot pole.... 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.2    11 months ago

Go ahead, Bob. Just don't call me stupid. Or Sandy. Or Perrie. Or Raven Wing

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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4.1.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.2    11 months ago
.. wouldn't touch that with a ten-foot pole.... 

no one can touch me with a ten foot pole, as an 11'

 pole be required. Possibly due to all of the ten foot poles sticking out of me from previous persons showing me how dumb I didn't think I wasn't, asz phat, drunk, and stupid iz the only way to get my self uneducated asz on a diet, cause that's the only one I see myself able to control, so they and I, eat it up, till my wait came down, and I just squezzed tinto the call wait waiting room where I try and keep myself busy, waiting to get call waiting, in the call waiting waiting room,  where I keep myself busy waiting to get call waiting, till it dawned on me that evening at dusk, and though corny, it was A Maze in, or so eye saw and herd from sew many ears knot listening to the volume of husk e kernels out inn the fields of play wear they work and stay a way asz they Wade into the Roes of domiknows the bus boy schedules in and on, while on trains watching training film debuts while waitin four all the finale finalists who waited longer at the self check out known asz a mirror that reflected the image i'd imagine i couldn't picture of me as a waiter in a call waiting waiting room waiting to get call waiting till I got a call   from the call waiting weight room, due to me not being a waiter, cause i;m the mate errrh D spiesed buy so and woe men e waitresses, who are not waiters either, just others looking to keep busy, a tempting to find themselves, at the lost and found myself at the lost and found, too busy, in the call waiting waiting room to locate the lost and found in the call waiting weight room sifting and lifting waits, that made me a waiter when i was too busy, to manage, to find a manager as i felt i had been a waiter long enough to know how to better manage my time than reading and writing this bull ship,   asz i set sale to find a bargain, the best I ever had...not waited fore B 4....

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
4.1.5  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.3    11 months ago

Oh! Are you all women?? Gosh!

You all sound smart! 

How is that possible?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.5    11 months ago

It's in our DNA

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.6    11 months ago

funny how thumpers always seem to forget that according to their book of fairytales, females are human 2.0 ...

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1.8  seeder  Hallux  replied to  devangelical @4.1.7    11 months ago
females are human 2.0

Corrections to Beta Boy were needed ... and still are.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.9  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @4.1.8    11 months ago

maga is anxious to designate those that they determine to be genetically incorrect as sub-human, as a counter balance to their expanding lack of self esteem. I recommend screening them for neanderthal DNA, after acceptable no greater than levels have been standardized, by using samples from control groups of non-maga participants, in order to officially name maga as the 2nd class citizens they so desperately require, and quite frankly need to function within america's social and cultural fabric. they claim it's a heritage thing, but it's probably their defective and neanderthal tainted DNA ...

 
 

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