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Why Trump's Viciousness Matters

  

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Via:  bob-nelson  •  11 months ago  •  5 comments

By:   Paul Krugman

Why Trump's Viciousness Matters



He wants to destroy our values, not just our democracy


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The Nazis made a concerted effort to "involve" ordinary people in their evil. They wanted excise all ethical decency from the German people. They wanted murder of enemies to be acceptable.

Sound familiar?

There are links in the seed.





S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


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My first reaction upon reading Donald Trump's despicable statement on the murders of Rob Reiner and his wife Michele was a sense of both shock and lack of surprise. It wasn't news to me that the president of the United States is a vicious shmuck. My second reaction was the thought that I have nothing new to contribute here, as plenty of other people were already denouncing yet another example of Trump's vindictive narcissism.

Yet, on reflection, I realized that there's a story here that's bigger than Trump, a story in which Trump is one especially egregious example of a larger pattern. What is that pattern? That being vicious and bigoted is cool, is based in current slang. Trump is one data point in the midst of an epidemic of performative hatemongering in America. And while most of this is emanating from right-wing extremists, not all of it is.

I am not going to present some rose-tinted, Pollyannaish view of America's past here. There were people who crowed over the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. For most of our history there were Americans who reveled in harming, subjugating and dispossessing those who were considered of the wrong race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation or gender identity. But we, as a country, changed. Over time, Americans on the whole became more humane and tolerant.

It's true that significant numbers of Americans were never fully on board with liberal humanism. For example, a majority of white American's didn't approve of interracial marriage until 1997. However, we were slowly becoming a country in which open bigotry was frowned upon. Although we were never perfect, there was a growing sense of norms that contained any underlying hatred.

Now the impulse to hate is back. For example, according to a long-running survey conducted by NORC and the ADL, antisemitism has been making a big comeback:

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And Trump has made innumberable crudely racist comments about Black Americans, particularly about Black American women. He's demonized immigrants and Muslims, and suggested Democratic politicians should be executed. But the resurgence of hate speech isn't just about Trump, nor is it solely about politics. Grown men — it's mostly, although not only, men — now feel free to be publicly cruel and vindictive, spouting childish insults against whomever they dislike.

Why is this happening? The rise of social media is one significant factor in making it far easier for the like-minded to find one another and magnify their hate.

The app formerly known as Twitter is thoroughly infested with bigots and bots, and all too many people who immerse themselves in that toxic environment end up internalizing the viciousness. Even right-wing activists like Chris Rufo are complaining that X has been "increasingly hijacked by bad actors who peddle baseless conspiracies and indulge their personal psychopathologies." And G. Elliott Morris's Substack "Strength in Numbers" has an excellent post on how Fox News polarized American voters and helped break American politics.

However, media alone are not to blame. I've been reading the British economist Simon Wren-Lewis, who has been writing about "the growing acceptability of xenophobic discourse" in the UK. His thesis is that there have always been a substantial number of people in Britain — and, surely, in every Western nation — who are socially reactionary and racist. In the past, however, mainstream political parties refused to associate themselves with anyone espousing such views. Eventually the cynical search for votes led to a breakdown of this cordon sanitaire — the Germans call their equivalent the Brandmauer , or firewall — and the latent viciousness broke into the open.

In a follow-up post Wren-Lewis, citing the work of the political scientist Vicente Valentim, acknowledges thatbroader social norms, largely established after World War II, also made overt racism and other forms of bigotry unacceptable in the public sphere. Even people who were privately cruel and bigoted - some of them in influential positions - felt obliged to be hypocrites and hide their true nature.

In time, however, events, ranging from the Syrian refugee crisis in Germany to the election of America's first Black president, loosened the grip of these social norms. The already-existing pool of cruelty and bigotry, which had previously been veiled by hypocrisy, came back into full view.

A similar phenomenon is occurring in the US, where some Trump supporters are gleeful that Trump's presidency will allow them to drop the veil of hypocrisy. For example, the Financial Times reported on the reasons some on Wall Street were welcoming Trump's return:

"I feel liberated," said a top banker. "We can say 'retard' and 'pussy' without the fear of getting cancelled . . . it's a new dawn."

But where I would differ from Wren-Lewis's analysis — although I'm not sure Simon would disagree — is that he implicitly treats the number of reactionaries and bigots as immutable. In fact, as G. Elliott Morris likes to point out, ordinary voters' positions on issues — and, I'd argue, elites' positions too — are far less fixed than political strategists tend to assume. They can and do shift greatly based on what people hear.

If this is true, then the world in which we lived until recently was a world in which the general public was steered away from the worst bigotry because, over time, it had been made socially unacceptable. Yes, there was substantial hypocrisy lurking below the surface, but the hypocrisy was a useful tool that reduced the amount of violent and hate-filled rhetoric.

Now, Trump is purposely breaking norms and engaging in open expressions of hate and bigotry. And among a set of people, this serves as a signal that it's now socially acceptable to do the same - look, for example, atthe extremely racist and Nazi-praising chats among young Republican activists leaked to Politico. While these young MAGA-landers were outed and chastised, it's clear that within MAGA-world emulating Trump's hate-filled rhetoric is considered a way of signaling that you are loyal to the movement.

And it's also clear that if Trumpism persists, we are facing a future in which such behavior is no longer publicly unacceptable. Because Trump's remarks about the murder of the Reiners weren't just his personal venting. They were a symptom and a symbol of his systematic destruction of our norms, our humanism, just as he tried to destroy the norms of American democracy on January 6, 2021. It's a profoundly nihilistic vision for America.

And one of these days, I predict, history will judge harshly those who stayed silent.

Addendum: Trump gave a speech on the economy last night. It was nasty, brutish but mercifully short. It was, of course, full of lies. Were there any true factual claims? So far I haven't found any. And it closed out with ugly claims about immigrants. A few more words about it tomorrow.


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Bob Nelson
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1  seeder  Bob Nelson    11 months ago
Trump is purposely breaking norms and engaging in open expressions of hate and bigotry. And among a set of people, this serves as a signal that it's now socially acceptable to do the same - look, for example, atthe extremely racist and Nazi-praising chats among young Republican activists leaked to Politico. While these young MAGA-landers were outed and chastised, it's clear that within MAGA-world emulating Trump's hate-filled rhetoric is considered a way of signaling that you are loyal to the movement.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    11 months ago

Trump has done more to destroy the fabric of American society than anyone I can think of in our history. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    11 months ago
However, media alone are not to blame. I've been reading the British economist Simon Wren-Lewis, who has been writing about "the growing acceptability of xenophobic discourse" in the UK. His thesis is that there have always been a substantial number of people in Britain — and, surely, in every Western nation — who are socially reactionary and racist. In the past, however, mainstream political parties refused to associate themselves with anyone espousing such views. Eventually the cynical search for votes led to a breakdown of this cordon sanitaire — the Germans call their equivalent the Brandmauer , or firewall — and the latent viciousness broke into the open.

Then trmp comes down that gold escalator and tells people that it's ok to be openly racist and bigoted. And he chose the Republican Party because he knew it would be easier to form his own cult if he went there. Democrats never would have embraced such a vile, bigoted human.I actually want to vomit when I call him a human.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4  Jack_TX    11 months ago
I feel liberated," said a top banker. "We can say 'retard' and 'pussy' without the fear of getting cancelled . . . it's a new dawn."

Herein lies the problem. When you define almost anything as bigotry or hate, you should not be surprised when you find it everywhere.

The extreme left (not all liberals) are running into the same problem that Christians have faced for thousands of years.  Every so often, the zealots rear their ugly heads and demand everyone else in the world comply with their ridiculous puritanical code of conduct.   

  • The Bishop of Alexandria tried to ban sex on weekends before communion.
  • The early Calvinists tried to enforce rules about how many dishes could be served at dinner, outlawing lace and jewelry, etc.
  • The Catholics would send the Inquisition around if you changed the sheets on a Friday or didn't like pork.
  • The New England Puritans tried to outlaw Christmas celebrations, claiming they were corrupt.
  • The Baptists have STILL managed to outlaw the sale of whiskey on Sundays in most of the Bible Belt.

So we're pros at this.  We know what happens next.

The problem with this bullshit is that people eventually realize there is no level of purity that will ever satisfy these assholes, so they stop trying.  They realize that the problem was never their own behavior, but the underlying mental illness of the puritans in question.  Then they start flaunting how they're not trying, demonstrating clearly that the religion has lost control.

Welcome to the post-woke period of American history.  People are beyond tired of constantly having every little nuance of language filtered for liberal purity and corrected.  It's not that they don't care anymore, it's that they're fed up and are emphatically telling the self appointed woke censors to go fuck themselves.  In that process, they condone things they probably don't don't approve of personally, and say things they probably wouldn't say otherwise.  They're making a point.

The good news we can learn from history is that eventually the revolt works, sane people step in to retake leadership and put the loonies back in the corner.  That will happen with both American liberalism and conservatism eventually.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1  Tacos!  replied to  Jack_TX @4    11 months ago
Every so often, the zealots rear their ugly heads and demand everyone else in the world comply with their ridiculous puritanical code of conduct.

None of the examples you listed involved being a dick to other people. That’s what the seed is about. I don’t disagree that social conservatives have tried to impose their morality on others throughout history, but how we behave toward ourselves is fundamentally a different topic than how we treat others.

So, how I behave for my myself in my private life is my business. But if I’m going to be an asshole to others, it’s reasonable to expect a reaction.

 
 

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