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The Donroe Doctrine

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  10 months ago  •  20 comments

The Donroe Doctrine
Mr. Rubio was unapologetic about the idea of hemispheric dominance, saying on NBC on Sunday: “This is the Western Hemisphere. This is where we live, and we’re not going to allow the Western Hemisphere to be a base of operation for adversaries, competitors and rivals of the United States.”

Link to quote: Trump Says U.S. Is ‘In Charge’ of Venezuela, While Rubio Stresses Coercing It - The New York Times


I think it's time to evaluate the President's foreign policy. Before I begin, I hope nobody thinks I'm "cobbling a few sentences together." Sometimes people accuse me of the strangest things. Despite all the low blows I will continue to offer my opinion based on the facts. As the world now knows, the President captured a tinpot dictator who was under indictment by the Southern District of New York. It was a flawless operation and a testament to the effectiveness of the US military.

The President laid out a broad outline of what he wants for Venezuela, its people and the US. The U.S. and US oil companies will have access to Venezuela’s oil reserves and the rotting energy infrastructure there will be repaired by those same companies. The President said he expected to keep selling crude to China, which has been one of Venezuela's main customers. The President also intends for the people of Venezuela to share in the profits. The details of all of it are yet to be revealed.

This is all part of Trump's new policy for the western hemisphere. It is based on the Monroe Doctrine. A member here recently asked me what the Monroe Doctrine was. I'm sure he got the Marxist explanation of it, but I will give our readers the real explanation of it.
Almost two centuries ago it was the basis for US foreign policy in the western hemisphere. It was formulated by President James Monroe, our 5th President. At the time, Latin American countries were ridding themselves of their European masters. Monroe feared that Spain and/or Portugal might seek to make them colonies again, thus he laid out the circumstances via which the US would intervene.

I'm sure somebody will want a textbook definition.

For those who want the specifics:

Monroe Doctrine , (December 2, 1823),  cornerstone  of  U.S.   foreign policy  enunciated by Pres.  James Monroe  in his annual message to Congress. Declaring that the Old World and New World had different systems and must remain distinct spheres,  Monroe  made four basic points:

(1) the United States would not interfere in the internal affairs of or the wars between European powers;

(2) the United States recognized and would not interfere with existing colonies and dependencies in the Western Hemisphere;

(3) the  Western Hemisphere  was closed to future colonization; and

(4) any attempt by a European power to oppress or control any nation in the Western Hemisphere would be viewed as a hostile act against the United States:

Monroe Doctrine | History, Summary, & Significance | Britannica


Trump's version is not based so much on foreign colonizers as home grown despots. Trump feels the US has a responsibility to keep the hemisphere free and resources vital to the US protected. I know that some of my fellow MAGA supporters think that it is a contradiction to the "no more wars" policy that Trump promised. I want to remind you all that Trump never said that the US was going to be an isolationist nation. These brief interventions are meant to protect American security. There are no boots on the ground in Venezuela.

 


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

"And in a testy exchange later on “Meet the Press” on NBC News, Mr. Rubio complained that people were “fixating” on Mr. Trump’s declaration at a news conference in Florida on Saturday that the U.S. government would run Venezuela. He added that “it’s not running — it’s running policy, the policy with regards to this.”

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Mr. Rubio said on CBS that the U.S. naval force that Mr. Trump  massed in the Caribbean Sea  near Venezuela over recent months — “one of the largest naval deployments in modern history, certainly in the Western Hemisphere” — would remain in place to enforce the quasi blockade, with the aim of “paralyzing that portion of how the regime, you know, generates revenue.”

Trump Says U.S. Is ‘In Charge’ of Venezuela, While Rubio Stresses Coercing It - The New York Times

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

He went from waving his middle finger to thumbs up!

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JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    10 months ago

Just out of curiosity, why are you obsessed with hemispheric dominance?  

Do Americans lack creature comforts ? 

Or is it commanded in the Bible ? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    10 months ago

Perhaps you missed yesterday's Sunday morning news shows.

Your questions have all been answered.

Here:

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    10 months ago

You cant speak for yourself ? 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1.2  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    10 months ago

Interesting - I understood what he's saying - why can't you?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1.2    10 months ago

Thank you, Sir.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    10 months ago
The President said he expected to keep selling crude to China, which has been one of Venezuela's main customers. The President also intends for the people of Venezuela to share in the profits. 

Is Venezuela now a colony of the United States ?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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4.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JohnRussell @4    10 months ago
Is Venezuela now a colony of the United States ?

I Donroe, but I do know this act is pretty damn sure going to end badly.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    10 months ago

A temporary ward until democracy is restored. Fortunately, Venezuela has had experience with democracy not too long ago.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    10 months ago
......there is no legal authority for the Trump administration to run Venezuela or any other sovereign country. And look, I want to be clear here right off the bat that I agree that Maduro was a brutal dictator and Venezuela is better off without him. But what is also true is that does not give Donald Trump any legal basis to engage in a regime change war with no congressional approval. I understand that he thinks that he’s the king of the world, but his autocratic ambitions are not license to plunge the US into what may be a costly, protracted, and unpopular war. Note too that Rubio says,quote, “We want a Venezuela where the wealth goes to the people.” Right? That’s what this White House is looking out for, the Venezuelan people. which is why they overthrew a dictator and then left the rest of his regime in place. The vice president is literally the one who asserted power right after Maduro was arrested. So, if this was truly about helping Venezuelans, then why are all of the same actors who’d been screwing Venezuelans right back in charge? To answer that question, I spoke with President Obama’s former deputy national security adviser, Ben Rhodes
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.   :   I know Venezuelans who hate Maduro, um,who have friends and loved ones who are in prison down there, right? And some of them are happy today. Um, but the the tragedy to me is that Trump doesn’t give a about them, right? Like he he’s already dealing with the remnants of the Maduro regime. Like he he’s already said he’s not going to try to support putting the opposition in power. Now, that, you know, not that that would be easy either, but he’s making no pretense that this is about democracy or a better life for Venezuelans. It it seemed it seems to me like the only like his only priority here was that Maduro was too much of a bull work against him being able to consolidate natural resources but then the next guy in line who I think is his his female vice president if if I’m not mistaken uh you know she won’t be as much of a barrier and so okay she can stay because it was never ,to your point , about human rights or anything like that. It was just about who’s going to give him the, you know, the the clearest one runway into consolidating uh consolidating natural resources, which of course, you know, he and his cronies derive some financial benefit from. I think that’s right. And and I even take it a step further, Brian, and say,you know, maybe Maduro, because Maduro is, you know, widely disliked. He’s widely seen as having stole the last election. Maybe he was the convenient pretext for, well, everybody can agree this is a bad guy, so this will be my way in to kind of get him out of there,but what I really want to do is get my claws on the oil. And again, if yout hink I sound like a, you know, lefty conspiracy theorist, that’s what Trump said , right?   Like he was like, “We need the oil back. It’s our oil. They stole it.” You know, um, and and and we’ll deal with the vice president. And then he basically said, “And if she doesn’t deal with us in the way that we like, we’ll we’ll come after her, too.”Right?  It’s just about, you know, it’s like we’re going back to the early 1900s here. It’s about finding any form of a vassal state government that will just kind of defer to Donald Trump and his administration and US oil companies in terms of what they’re doing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5    10 months ago

The answer is clear. The current regime must do what has been suggested or remain under embargo.

And that same naval force is pointing its guns at Columbia in case anyone has missed it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6  JohnRussell    10 months ago

True or False - 

Trump has cut María Corina Machado out of his plans for a future Venezuelan government because she received the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize and he didn't. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @6    10 months ago
True or False - 

Trump has cut María Corina Machado out of his plans for a future Venezuelan government because she received the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize and he didn't. 

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Short answer: True — according to multiple news reports.

Based on the information available from reputable news outlets, the claim is true: reporting indicates that Donald Trump sidelined María Corina Machado in his post‑Maduro plans because she accepted the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize, which he has long wanted for himself.

Here’s what the reporting shows:

  • Multiple sources close to the White House told The Washington Post that Trump viewed Machado’s acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize as the “ultimate sin”.

  • Reports say Trump believed she should have refused the prize or insisted it be awarded to him instead.

  • As a result, he reportedly withdrew support for her as a potential leader in a transitional Venezuelan government.

So the statement in your question aligns with what these news reports describe.

If you want, we can dig deeper into how this decision affects Venezuela’s transition or why the Nobel Prize became such a political flashpoint.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    10 months ago

Oh, unnamed sources?

So, far they've been wrong on everything, starting with Trump colluding with Russia.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    10 months ago

You dont seem to know what your hero, Donald Trump, is really like. 

He has forestalled pressure on Russia for almost a year because he believes Vladimir Putin likes him. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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Vic Eldred
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6.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6    10 months ago

He cut Machado out because she won the Nobel Peace Prize?

I'd say that is blatantly false.

I'd say that Edmundo González has a much more valid claim to the Venezuelan Presidency, but I think elections may be held again with all of the above included.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  JohnRussell    10 months ago
Stephen Miller might take on responsibilities in overseeing post-Maduro operations in Venezuela, as the White House is weighing giving him a more elevated role. Miller has been the architect of the administration's anti-immigration and border policy and played a central role in the effort to remove Maduro. U.S. plan to ‘run’ Venezuela clouded in confusion and uncertainty - The Washington Post

Maybe Miller will deport all the non white Venezuelans to some African 'shithole'. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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8  Nerm_L    10 months ago

The Donroe Doctrine is an extension of neoliberal/neocon policy to use military force to directly interfere with the internal affairs of other nations with intent to decapitate governments and change regimes.  The Donroe Doctrine is not constrained by serving the interests of the United States.  The Donroe Doctrine is a more robust form of Reagan neoliberalism that nationalizes costs in order to privatize profits.  The Donroe Doctrine is government by the rich, for the rich, at the expense of American citizens.  

The Monroe Doctrine was intended to thwart Eastern Hemisphere intrusion into the Western Hemisphere.  The Donroe Doctrine allows that interference for the highest bidder.  The Donroe Doctrine is based upon the TEA Party principal of selling out the United States for the entitled benefit of the privileged oligarchs while dumping the expense, sacrifice, and hardship onto the average American citizen.

The invasion of Venezuela and subsequent regime change was intended to serve the interests of multi-national global corporations.  Trump has openly made that declaration.  The United States will derive no benefit from handing control of Venezuela to those global corporations.  The US taxpayer must pay the costs of the military operation and expenditure of munitions but will be denied any benefit from the use of the military.

 
 

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