Another NYT video analysis of the Minneapolis ICE shooting
This has been on the news over the past couple of days, but it wasn't on YouTube until this morning.
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Ross stopped just forward of the driver's-side quarter panel (where he shouldn't have), and started to draw his weapon as if he was just looking for an excuse.
When Good starts to pull out, he got his excuse and went out of his way to lean in to aim – way in. If he hadn't already been thinking about shooting her he never would have done that. A person not intent on getting that shot off would have simply tried to step back from the vehicle as it was pulling out and away from him.
The contact heard in Ross's cell phone video is the sound of him banging his phone (which was in his left hand) against her hood as he was leaning in to make that first shot. That's why his left arm and chest made contact with the vehicle. If he hadn't been so intent on shooting her in that split second, when he could have been stepping back instead of leaning in, he might not have contacted the vehicle at all.
On the subject of justification, once her vehicle started moving, shooting her was going to accomplish absolutely nothing for Ross's safety. It's not as if his trigger was some kind of magical brake pedal that was going to stop the vehicle dead in its tracks.
It still looks like an unjustified shooting to me, especially the second and third shots when Good may not yet have been fatally wounded. Those shots were made from the side of the vehicle as it passed by him, when there could be no argument at all that he was in danger.
If it turns out that she was not fatally wounded when he made those last two shots, then this would seem to be a clear-cut case of murder. Unfortunately, we'd need a proper, good faith investigation to determine that, and I seriously doubt the most corrupt administration in U.S. history will provide one.
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Where's the video of Ross being "run over" again?
it's still in production at grok ...
Trump supporters will, as usual, deny what they can see clear as day.
The biggest problem in our nation today is having the worst PotUS in history in charge.
This problem exists because of those (useful) who blindly support and defend him no matter what he says or does and will do so in spite of cold hard facts and reason.
Ross had a choice, and he chose to waste that split second aiming instead of trying to get farther out of the way, even though shooting her was going to make no difference whatsoever for his safety.
Personally, I think he wanted to. Why else would he stop where he did and draw his weapon, other than to give himself a pre-meditated excuse if she started to pull forward?
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He positioned himself on the driver corner and drew his weapon. That alone is a direct violation of protocol. If he did not intend to shoot this woman then one can only wonder what else he was thinking. Maybe trying to stop her when she saw a gun? Regardless, he crossed the line when he used deadly force rather than follow protocol and step aside (if he felt he was in her path).
the shooter jumped at the chance to take the ICE job, he could never qualify for previously, specifically for the chance to perform the act that he committed ...
Bingo! Which is why I call this premeditated murder
What would America be today, it a cop had shot Rosa Parks in the face?
the maga 4th reich, like it's moving towards now ...
I guess it depends on the situation.
Did Rosa hit a cop with the bus?
Its show tremendous ignorance of the past to imagine law enforcement in the 1950s would have been more tolerant of a criminal ignoring orders and driving a car at an officer. They could, under a common law rule going back centuries, have shot her just for fleeing without caring whether she was a danger. .
Excellent example of what I posted @2.
A Trump supporter denying a crystal clear video showing that Good did not hit the officer who killed her.
And another example of a Trump supporter denying a crystal clear video showing that Good did not hit the officer who killed her but was instead driving her vehicle to the right (away from —not at— the officer) towards the road (where the momentum of her vehicle took it after she was shot).
mp supporter denuying a crystal clear video showing that Good did not hit the officer
Does having to make things up make this argument give you any pause, at all? It just makes it harder to take you seriously.
He was in front of her. She drove at him and struck him. It doesn't even matter if she hit him or just narrowly missed him. All that matters is he perceived a risk of injury at the time he shot her. To believe he didn't is silly.
Putting the best face on it, your argument is that the LEO should just trust that the criminal who is ignoring commands to accelerate towards him will choose to just narrowly miss him and not in fact make any minute changes in orientation that could easily lead to his death or injury. And that' your best argument.
Imagine thinking the LEO wouldn't be reasonably afraid of injury in that situation.
Just flat out amazing. We have the video right here in this article and you still present a fantasy.
Denying clear evidence. Perfect example of Trump's main tactic.
.Are you talking about narrator of the video you keep pointing to? Because there is no way to reconcile your claims about the video with what the narrator says it shows.
You have a knack for asking incisive questions...
The capacity of MAGA to deny reality is the perhaps the most baffling aspect of this mess.
To say Good was trying to hurt Ross is refuted by several videos. So persisting in that line means that appearing a fool to most people is less important than demonstrating loyalty to MAGA.
Appearing a fool...
What's the time stamp where they read Good's mind before she died? Much more importantly , where does do these videos read Ross's mind to show that he knew she wasn't trying to hurt him?
Not to mention if it was icy and the wheels were spinning the suv may not have gone in the direction the driver wanted, assuming she didn't want to hit him
‘You have a knack for asking incisive questions’
What I have is a knack to ask questions liberals are unable to answer coherently.
Keep on illustrating to everyone just how far you will go to deny reality.
If this were not such a serious matter, I would be amused by your ridiculous postings.
Amazing. Now we have another Trump supporter refusing to acknowledge reality and instead speculating about something that demonstrably did not even happen. How fucking pointless.
Do you recognize that Good did NOT hit the officer, that her wheels were turned away from the officer?
You cite a video that directly contradicts your claim that's its " crystal clear video showing that Good did not hit the officer who killed her." I don't have to do say anything. Your own cited narrator explaining your handpicked evidence does it for me. Did you not actually watch your own cited video?
It's a pretty comical situation you got yourself in...
Totally irrelevant to my comment. Which part of my comment was not a plausible possibility?
if it was icy?
the wheels were spinning?
the suv may not have gone in the direction the driver wanted? Think a little about what may have been going through the cops mind at the time, wheels spinning on ice .
assuming she didn't want to hit him. She probably didn't. As far as irrefutable proof she never hit him? I think there are conflicting videos unless you ignore
I am not sure about some of this which is why I am more than happy to defer to the process no matter how much that seems to bother some folks here.
PS, this is not about Trump no matter how much some folks try to make it about him.
What you described as a possibility did not happen. Thus: irrelevant.
Focus on what actually happened. She did not hit the officer and she was moving away from him.
Buy a vowel. The Trump administration is doing their best to bury this. Trump supporters are (of course) doing their best to try to blame the victim and hold the ICE officer without blame.
This is what you are (still) doing. So, yeah, this is most definitely about Trump and his corrupt administration.
Who do you think you are fooling?
You continue to illustrate the perfect Trump modus operandi in action. Deny, deny, deny. Forget about how obviously wrong you are ... just deny, deny, deny.
What I described are things that actually happened and how a person might interpret it, not if he got hit. nuh uh is not a response
I showed a video that shows some doubt to your claim. You conveniently ignored it.
What happened that day was not about Trump. I can't understand why some folks have to interject him into everything
Ah, making it about me again, Yawn
Yawn
Do you hold that Good steered her vehicle to hit the officer?
Do you believe the officer was hit by her vehicle?
Do you believe the officer had a reasonable fear for his life or great bodily damage?
Do you know what the protocol is in situations like this?
Did you seriously, objectively watch this video?
Was she driving it?
You cited a video a that literally contradicts your claim and you accuse others of engaging in the Trump MO?
Physician Heal thyself.
The video is there for all to see. Any honest person can see that the analysis on your own chosen video refutes your claim of a crystal clear video showing Good did not hit the officer. It's the "unedited videos showing Biden freezing on stage are cheap fakes" all over again. Progressives literally denying what their senses tell them.
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This is a screenshot of a video taken from across the street.
In this picture Good has already backed up and prepared to go forward. The shooter can be seen on the street in front of the car . He is shown here just to the right of the tree branches.
The shooter knows, if he has the slightest bit of common sense, that she is preparing to pull out, yet he does not hurry out of the way.
Ross knew she was about to come forward (drivers behind the wheel do not back up for no reason).
What responsibility did Ross have to get out of the way and thus prevent himself from being frightened into shooting Good?
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Renee Nicole Good appears to block road before fatal Minneapolis ICE shooting: video | New York Post
And again, you resort to posting an outrageous lie.
The video clearly shows Good did not hit the officer yet, just like Trump, you repeatedly deny the obvious and stick with a lie.
What on Earth drives people like you to engage in such obvious intellectual dishonesty?
Why does the analysis on your own video say differently?
people like you to engage in such obvious intellectual dishonesty?
Lol. You cited a video that disagrees with your claim and you accuse others of "intellectual dishonesty" for pointing out the actual analysis in the video ontradicts your claim?
This is the theatre of the absurd.
Ross also knew that she was being directed to stop and get out of the car, that another officer was trying to reach into the SUV to stop it and that she knew he was in standing in front of the SUV.
She made the choice to drive at him. Under all the circumstances, he had reason to think that was done with hostile intentions.
He was within ten feet of the car during this entire incident. Only a moron would not have noticed she had backed up preparing to pull out, yet he chose to step in front of the car anyway. When a car backs up in a parking spot, they are getting ready to leave. This is 100% common knowledge.
What responsibility did Ross have to avoid what Happened?
Of course he can say he felt threatened . He could say if he felt threatened even if she had not moved an inch, just by the fact he was standing in front of a car with the motor running.
Other than low-grade trolling, what do you hope to accomplish by repeatedly posting such an obvious lie?
Incredible.
These two facts alone should be damning evidence.
First, he is holding his phone trying to shoot video while firing his weapon one-handed. No part of that develops out of professional training.
Second, he clearly is leaning his upper body into the path of the car - after his feet are already to the side of the vehicle’s path - so that he can shoot through the windshield. And if you have seen the bullet hole, you know he barely made it. The truth is, if he were holding and aiming his weapon as trained, every one of his shots would have gone through the side window. He had to physically struggle and rush to get even one bullet through the extreme lower corner of the front windshield.
Nothing about this shooting was useful or necessary. Shooting Renee Good did not - and could not have possibly - improved anyone’s safety. In fact, it directly caused the vehicle to go down the street out of control. This was murder, and he very easily could have caused the death of someone else.
No you are clearly wrong Tacos!
Paying attention to hard evidence and using reason is entirely the wrong way to get to the truth.
The truth comes from the Trump administration and from all the sycophants and useful supporters who spend their days trying (stupidly and in vain) to defend this abysmal human being and his corrupt administration.
let them dig that hole deep enough that they will all fit within it ...