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Fraud investigator Nick Shirley goes viral after slamming Newsom

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  vic-eldred  •  8 months ago  •  42 comments

By:   Elizabeth Heckman (Fox News)

Fraud investigator Nick Shirley goes viral after slamming Newsom
Nick Shirley responded to California Gov. Gavin Newsom's office after it mocked his fraud investigation efforts in Minnesota on social media.

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YouTuber and independent journalist Nick Shirley went viral Monday for his response to California Gov. Gavin Newsom's office on social media after it mocked his efforts to expose alleged fraud by daycare centers receiving millions of dollars of government funding.

Newsom's office mocked Shirley by posting a photo of a man carrying several cameras at a daycare and asking a teacher, "Hey, can I see your kids?"

Shirley did not hold back in his response.

"You do realize I'm trying to help America eliminate fraud and waste right?" he said in a reply to the post Monday night. "No need to try and make me look like the bad guy for exposing fraud. People are over it. Start working for the people and not against them."

Shirley gained national attention after releasing videos he said expose fraud in Minnesota.

A 42-minute video of him investigating Minnesota daycare centers that appeared inactive despite receiving millions of dollars in government funding went viral in December.

The video, which has been viewed more than 138 million times on X alone, prompted investigations by federal officials and led the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to freeze all childcare payments in Minnesota.

Shirley testified before House lawmakers in January during a hearing investigating the state's fraud scandals.

Shirley's Monday response to Newsom's office has received over 190,000 likes, 20,000 reposts and reactions from some high-profile X users.

The online exchange with Newsom's office came shortly after Shirley posted a video on his YouTube page titled, "I Investigated California's Billion Dollar Fraud Crisis."

On X, where the video was shared on Monday, Shirley alleged the fraud he discovered in California was larger than in Minnesota.

"We uncovered over $170,000,000 in fraud as these fraudsters live in luxury with no consequences," the post said. "Like it and share it, the fraud must STOP."

Shirley went on to speak out about the fraud he discovered in the post, "We ALL work way too hard and pay too much in taxes for this to be happening. These fraudsters have been able to defraud American taxpayers for years without any pushback from the public and politicians. It is time to EXPOSE IT ALL and end America's fraud crisis."

Shirley did not immediately respond to Fox News Digital's request for comment.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

Nick Shirley strikes again!

Where is the msm?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    8 months ago

looking for voter fraud in Texas, /s

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @1.1    8 months ago

The topic is daycare fraud. You may be on the wrong article.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    8 months ago

Nick Shirley is exactly why teenagers should not get cell phones until they are 18 years old, maybe not until they have two years driving experience.

He is the center of attention and in his own world of self importance with "followers" online.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    8 months ago
The topic is daycare fraud. You may be on the wrong article.

That's not what the title of the article says.  It's about Shirley's inventions and Newsome's behavior.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    8 months ago
The topic is daycare fraud. You may be on the wrong article.

Oh they don't care if they are off topic.  It's all about the narrative and deflecting.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    8 months ago

Question (you) .Where is the msm?

Answer  (Me)  looking for voter fraud in Texas, /s

You are the seeder,  do you see how that works?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.4    8 months ago
It's all about the narrative and deflecting.

I accept your expertise on the subject. /s

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.1.7  Jack_TX  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.2    8 months ago
Nick Shirley is exactly why teenagers should not get cell phones until they are 18 years old, maybe not until they have two years driving experience.

God forbid we identify fraud.

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.8  evilone  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.7    8 months ago
God forbid we identify fraud.

We should identify fraud, we shouldn't entertain the fraudsters who claim to have found it for ragebait clicks.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.1.9  Jack_TX  replied to  evilone @1.1.8    8 months ago
we shouldn't entertain the fraudsters who claim to have found it for ragebait clicks.

The number of arrests would seem to make this accusation look a bit silly.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.10  GregTx  replied to  evilone @1.1.8    8 months ago

Mmmmm, 512

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.11  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.7    8 months ago

Lets exam the focus in MN.  56 convictions of American citizens, who happen to be Somalians, continues to be beaten like a dead horse by Nick Shirley and others,

in spite of 48 of those convictions being accomplished under the Biden Administration long before Nick Shirley showed up with his camera's. A lot of this includes Covid relief fraud.

Medical fraud (medicare & medicaid) are white collar crimes usually committed by doctors and pharmacist's. 

  Biggest health care fraud crackdown in U.S. history targets $14.6B in alleged scams | Medical Economics

It's "so bad now" Oz is even going after Florida, a red state.

Well funded, rich healthcare networks owned overwhelmingly by non immigrant, non minority health care professionals who overbill for overlapping or already included services and they get away with whatever they can.

A $60 Billion Problem: Annual Medicare Losses Due to Fraud and Abuse - Miller Shah

Approximately   $28.83   billion
In   Fiscal   Year   2025 ,   the   estimated   improper   payment   rate   for   Medicare   is   6.55% ,   which   amounts   to   approximately   $28.83   billion   in   recoveries.   Additionally,   the   Department   of   Justice   announced   a   national   health   care   fraud   takedown   in   2025 ,   resulting   in   charges   against   324   defendants   and   the   seizure   of   over   $245   million   in   assets,   indicating   ongoing   efforts   to   recover   funds   lost   to   fraud.   Overall,   the   federal   government   loses   between   $233   billion   and   $521   billion   annually   to   fraud,   with   Medicare   losing   an   estimated   $60   billion   each   year   to   fraud,   errors,   and   abuse.  
Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services +3
2025, not a Democratic Administration, SSDD.
Interestingly enough Canada's worst year for fraud was 2022, involves overbilling.
Canada has about 42 million citizens in a mostly not for profit healthcare system and it's government loses about $13.00 per person annually to fraud.
America has 339 million people in a mostly for profit healthcare system and the government loses about $177.00 per person annually.
So again I say, why the partisan fascination with the guppies while the whales and sharks swim free?

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.13  evilone  replied to  GregTx @1.1.10    8 months ago
Mmmmm, 

Who is this woman, what has she done and when did she do it. I suspect its that chick that ran the COVID lunch program in MN. If so then Shirley had nothing to do with uncovering her fraud.

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.14  evilone  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.9    8 months ago
The number of arrests would seem to make this accusation look a bit silly.

I'm not aware of any arrests that can be attributed directly to Nick Shirley. Please enlighten the rest of us.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    8 months ago
Nick Shirley strikes again!

How much fraud has Nick Shirley actually exposed?  Shirley has made wild assed guesses to drive social media engagement.  Trump Republicans have used Shirley's celebrity press credentials to make even wilder wild assed guesses.  But where is the verified accounting?

Trump Republicans are once again boasting about a buffet of condiments without offering any beef.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.2.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Nerm_L @1.2    8 months ago
How much fraud has Nick Shirley actually exposed?

Depends very much on who you ask.  

It's almost surely not zero.

But where is the verified accounting?

It will come with the report on the official investigation, which should take several months.  

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.2.2  goose is back  replied to  Nerm_L @1.2    8 months ago
How much fraud has Nick Shirley actually exposed? 

Enough to get 98 people arrested.

Breaking: DOJ announces 98 total arrests in Minnesota fraud case - 85 of 'Somali descent'

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.3  Nerm_L  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.1    8 months ago
Depends very much on who you ask.   It's almost surely not zero.

Minnesota's prosecutions has shown $300-$500 million in fraud; so it is not zero.  Most of these fraud cases are related to COVID relief funds.  

The Trump administration basically encouraged fraud by injecting massive amounts of COVID relief with lax Federal administrative oversight of self certification and waivers.  Trump wanted to quickly boost economic numbers prior to the 2020 election.  Oversight would have slowed and added costs to distribution of relief funds.  Trump's fast & loose injection of COVID relief made fraud highly likely.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.4  Nerm_L  replied to  goose is back @1.2.2    8 months ago
Enough to get 98 people arrested.

Arrests are not convictions.  At most, the amount of fraud attributed to these 98 individuals is in the range of $300-$500 million.  And the fraud is related to COVID relief funds that Trump deployed based upon self-certification, unverified wavers, and virtually no Federal oversight.  That leaves ~$8.5 billion unaccounted for.  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.2.5  Jack_TX  replied to  Nerm_L @1.2.3    8 months ago
Minnesota's prosecutions has shown $300-$500 million in fraud; so it is not zero.  Most of these fraud cases are related to COVID relief funds.  

There was a lot of Covid money dedicated toward childcare.

The Trump administration basically encouraged fraud by injecting massive amounts of COVID relief with lax Federal administrative oversight of self certification and waivers.  Trump wanted to quickly boost economic numbers prior to the 2020 election.  Oversight would have slowed and added costs to distribution of relief funds.  Trump's fast & loose injection of COVID relief made fraud highly likely.

I don't know if you remember, but we were in a state of national emergency then.  Over a million Americans died.  People couldn't work.  School buildings were closed.

For many kids, including many that I coached, school was their primary nutrition source.  When they couldn't go to school, they went hungry.  So a lot of programs were fast tracked to deal with the emergency.  Much like how you don't take time to audit your water bill while the firemen are keeping your house from burning.  

The question should be "why is this still going on after all this time?"

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.6  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.5    8 months ago
The question should be "why is this still going on after all this time?"

American greed?  We live in a for-profit society that worships its billionaires and millionaires.

Investigations cost money and man hours. This Administration has laid off or redirected the IRS and DOJ/ FBO investigators.

Imagine the fuzzy warm feeling of a job well done convicting some pirate

only to have this POTUS issue a pardon?  To date in 2025 &2026 over a billion in restitution and fines wiped away by a Presidential Pardon of his

cronies and fellow pirates.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.2.7  Jack_TX  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.6    8 months ago
American greed?

Which shouldn't explain dereliction of oversight responsibilities.

We live in a for-profit society that worships its billionaires and millionaires.

We worship attention, and by extension those who garner it.  The vast majority of millionaires are anonymous.  Nobody cares about those people.

Investigations cost money and man hours.

The question is why are all the "emergency" funds still flowing long after the emergency is over?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.8  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.7    8 months ago
Which shouldn't explain dereliction of oversight responsibilities.

Whole sections of the DOJ have been shuttered, fired or reassigned.  White collar crime is no longer a priority there or at the FBI.  DOGE laid off 300,000 women and minorities to "eliminate DEI".  Many of those people are being paid Admin leave while their cases wind through court and the investigations of real issues slow down. 

Nobody cares about those people.

Trump does.

The question is why are all the "emergency" funds still flowing long after the emergency is over?

Emergencies created by EO, never seem to be shut down by EO.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    8 months ago

Democrats publicly embracing and defending fraud is not where I thought we'd be, but here we are. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    8 months ago

How do you explain Dave Gentile and Donald Trump?  Are they also Democrats?

Trump commutes $1.6 billion fraudster's prison sentence just days into seven year term

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  seeder  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

Well, you heard Walz, we don't want to be Islamophobic. Let's just move on.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    8 months ago
we don't want to be Islamophobic

Walz and his ilk are the living embodiment of the Norm MacDonald joke about being really worried about the Islamophobia if Muslim terrorists kill millions of Americans with a nuke. 

We've had Islamic terrorist attack after Islamic terrorist attack and they only worry about a backlash that never happens. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4  Dismayed Patriot    8 months ago

Shirley you're not serious!

This guy is a joke. He got called out by Newsom and his response was like a little whiny bitch baby, "Whaaaah! "You do realize I'm trying to help America eliminate fraud and waste right?". No, you're a fucking moron grifting rightwing morons for likes and views to boost your finances. It is pretty funny though that anyone listens to this tired turd.

And where is the evidence of all this fraud in CA he has supposed to have uncovered? 

Shirley did not immediately respond to Fox News Digital's request for comment.

LOL. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    8 months ago
This guy is a joke.

[✘] This guy has exposed more fraud with an iPhone than the left wing bloggers have with all their "resources".

He got called out by Newsom and his response was like a little whiny bitch baby,

You mean like virtually every left wing mouthpiece that steps up to a microphone?

No, you're a fucking moron grifting rightwing morons for likes and views to boost your finances.[✘]

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    8 months ago
This guy is a joke.

He's a kid with a phone who discovered some as yet undetermined level of obvious fraud.  

The correct response from an elected official with oversight of that program is "We'll assign an investigator immediately.  Please save all of your information.  What's the best way to contact you?"

But no, instead the governor's office thought  "let's behave like brainless partisan fucktards because, our followers use their political views as their religion any suggestion of any error ever is a direct assault on the Faith."

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    8 months ago

This guy and his followers seem to be under the impression that states like California and Minnesota (i.e. “blue states”) don’t investigate and prosecute fraud. But they do.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @5    8 months ago

Sure...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1    8 months ago

Influencer, White House welfare fraud claims are distorted, but the system has risks

Public policy experts say the structure of U.S. safety-net programs does create opportunity for scammers, and more could be done to tackle that. At the same time, there's concern that the Trump administration's  mounting   drumbeat  of unfounded fraud allegations could undermine public trust in a system that millions of people rely on.

Accusations of benefit fraud are as old as the programs themselves

The first major American social welfare program was pensions for Civil War veterans, "and that likewise was associated with a lot of accusations of fraud and mismanagement by the government," says public policy expert Don Moynihan at the University of Michigan.

He says longstanding   tropes around welfare fraud   persist today, along with actual fraud, but the Trump administration is politicizing the issue.

The extent of benefits fraud is not known since presumably not all criminal behavior is caught. But "the bottom line is there are billions and billions of dollars that are lost by taxpayers to improper payments, including fraud, every year," says Matt Weidinger, who studies poverty at the conservative American Enterprise Institute and has worked on unemployment benefits policy.

Most fraud is by providers or outside scammers, not as much by recipients. Individuals who have been   convicted of such fraud   are overwhelmingly U.S. citizens. In fact, undocumented immigrant workers   pay billions into Social Security   every year, effectively subsidizing a program they will never collect from.

Democrats say Trump aims to "punish" them, not actually address fraud 

The Trump administration has specifically alleged "extensive and systematic fraud" in five Democratic-led states: California, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota and New York. Letters sent to each this week say there is "reason to believe" they are "illicitly providing illegal aliens" with benefits, although the administration has offered no evidence of any ongoing fraud.

Fraud happens in every state, blue and red, says researcher Weidinger, because criminals "will find weakness wherever it is."

One massive recent scandal over cash aid was in Mississippi. In December 2024 the Biden administration notified the state it must pay   back $101 million   in welfare money that was misspent. Last year the Trump administration   rescinded that penalty letter , agreeing to the state's request for more time.

Benefits fraud is long-standing in both blue and red states : NPR

Fraud happens in both red and blue States because the scammers don't give a fuck about politics, they only care about opportunity, and all States have some programs that scammers will likely consider an opportunity for fraud.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.1    8 months ago

Why do you defend fraud?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  bugsy @5.1.2    8 months ago
Why do you defend fraud?

Have you stopped beating your wife?

The question you ask is a ridiculous one, just like mine, because I did no such thing.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tacos! @5    8 months ago

When did they prosecute fraud?  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tacos! @5    8 months ago
But they do.

Yea, they investigate it to get their cut.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.4  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @5    8 months ago

Especially since Covid, I believe there were 48 convictions for fed fraud in MN during the Biden dministration.

Butt Trump!  and Shirley !

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.4.1  Tacos!  replied to  Split Personality @5.4    8 months ago

Can we do more? Of course. We can always do more. But this fake hysteria over fraud is like saying that because murder or other crimes still exist, no one cares or is trying to stop it. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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5.5  Jack_TX  replied to  Tacos! @5    8 months ago
This guy and his followers seem to be under the impression that states like California and Minnesota (i.e. “blue states”) don’t investigate and prosecute fraud. But they do.

I think the impression is more along the lines of "their bleeding hearts cause them not to suspect things they obviously should and they care much more about preserving their white savior identity than they do any number of dollars going missing".

There is undoubtedly also the impression (valid or not) that if these were white Christian daycares, shit would have been caught a long time ago.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.5.1  Tacos!  replied to  Jack_TX @5.5    8 months ago

The impression doesn’t come from nothing. It’s intentional and manufactured. So much of it is disingenuous or straight up deceitful. I think last week, we had a seed here about hospice fraud in California. And the whole theme was that California either didn’t care or encouraged the fraud. The whole story was copied into the seed except for the bit about the people California had been prosecuting.

So, the Right is leaning very heavily into the lie that blue states are encouraging and/or ignoring fraud and waste. 

 
 

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