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Fox News' fraud exposed: Inside the real-time con that's hollowing out America | Opinion

  

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Via:  dig  •  6 months ago  •  117 comments

By:   Sabrina Haake

Fox News' fraud exposed: Inside the real-time con that's hollowing out America | Opinion
As of May 12, 2026, 38% of the nation still supports Trump because 38% of the nation watches Fox News, purveyors of pure Trump propaganda.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


Whenever a new poll comes out showing Trump’s abysmal ratings, public reactions follow a pattern. Public comments don’t question Trump’s disapproval rating. Rather, millions of people question the flip side: how does 38% of the nation still support such an obvious charlatan? Are supporters delusional? Suicidal?

Specifically, does MAGA not know that 15 million Americans, mostly their own, have now lost health insurance because of him? Can they not read the Walmart price tags they hold in their own hands? Do they not know he’s weakening the NATO alliance their granddads fought for, or that he single-handedly empowered one of the most dangerous regimes in the world?

The answer is ‘No, no, and no.’ Nearly 40% of the country—38%, to be exact— can’t connect the dots on who’s making their lives harder. We don’t need another study to figure out why, because it couldn’t be more obvious: As of May 12, 2026, 38% of the nation still supports Trump because 38% of the nation watches Fox News, purveyors of pure Trump propaganda. And compared to other consumers, Fox News viewers do not diversify their sources.

After the 2020 election, the Pew Research Center did a deep dive to learn what Americans heard, perceived and knew about it. Researchers found, for example, that 63% of Fox News viewers had given Trump an “excellent” rating on Covid. Trump suggested injecting bleach into unspecified orifices while over 1 million Americans died, yet Fox viewers thought he did an excellent job?

More accurately it was a con job, perpetrated by Fox News.

Fox News propaganda

Coming into the present news cycle, the Pope-Trump conflict illustrates the con in real time. Pope Leo XIV criticized Trump’s war with Iran by condemning leaders who manipulate religion for military gain. Trump, manifestly devoid of impulse control, immediately shot back on Truth Social that the Pope was “weak on crime” and “terrible for Foreign Policy” as if he were a political adversary. In follow up Fox News Digital interviews, Trump doubled down and refused to apologize as Fox hosts clapped like seals.

While most media outlets questioned Trump’s sanity for attacking the spiritual leader of 1.4 billion people, Fox dissembled with headlines like, “60 Minutes accused of using left-leaning Cardinals to bait Trump into feud with Vatican” and “Pope Leo says remarks about world being ‘ravaged by a handful of tyrants’ were not aimed at Trump. When Trump dispatched Marco Rubio to patch things up with the Pope last week, most media reported that it didn’t work, but Fox called it a big success and applauded what a great job Rubio did.

Fox News even tried to accuse other media networks of intentionally ‘baiting’ a response from Trump. They invited Elise Stefanik onto the network to tell Pope Leo XIV to “stay out of politics,” while other guests labelled the Pope’s foreign policy views ‘wrong’ and ‘liberal.’ Sean Hannity questioned whether the Pope fully understood the Iran conflict, and several other Fox commentators questioned whether the Pontiff had “read the Bible” about geocomplexities in Iran. To be clear, not one Fox host questioned whether Trump had “read the map” before he delivered the Strait of Hormuz to the mullahs.

The First Amendment protects political speech but it does not protect fraud

The Pope example alone illustrates how MAGA is being lied to on a daily basis, but it’s just one example. Fox News serves up daily falsehoods about climate change, immigrants, public education, NATO, black crime, ICE, and the war in Iran to craft a pro-Trump narrative, assuming their lies are legally protected by the First Amendment as “political speech.”

Enough damage is now evident to challenge that legal assumption.

In 2010, Supreme Court republicans fast-tracked America’s slide into oligarchy when they ruled in Citizens United that corporate political donations were a form of free speech. Citizens United further clarified that, under the First Amendment, political speech warrants the “highest level of protection against government regulation” following the New York Times Co. v. Sullivan’s restatement, and an earlier ruling that any regulations on political speech must withstand the highest level of strict scrutiny.

But while First Amendment protection for political speech is old news, there’s another long-toothed maxim: The First Amendment does not protect fraud. In 2012, under United States v. Alvarez, the Court confirmed that fraud is a ‘narrowly limited class of speech’ not entitled to First Amendment protection. In Alvarez, the Court struck down the Stolen Valor Act, a law that made lying about military medals a crime, because no one gained a ‘material advantage’ from the lie. Unless someone is profiting from their false speech, the court ruled, there’s no actionable fraud—they’re simply lying. But false speech connected to economic gain on one side and economic harm on the other is fraud, legally unprotected under the First Amendment.

Under this definition, Fox News is engaged in classic consumer fraud. Fox admitted in the Dominion case that they lied to their viewers for profit, and paid out nearly $1 billion in settlement as a result. But their lies didn’t stop after that case, they continue to sell 24/7 Trump propaganda as ‘news.’ They are perpetrating the same fraud, one that hooks viewers, profiting Fox and their corporate backers, while materially harming victims by convincing them to vote against their own economic interests.

Under Supreme Court precedent, Fox News isn’t engaging in protected political speech. It’s engaging in commercial fraud. And the victims aren’t just Fox viewers, even though studies show they are harmed the most: the entire nation is enduring political violence, extreme division and rumblings of civil war because 38% of the country is being lied to.

Albert Einstein once said, “A people that were to honor falsehood…would be unable, indeed, to subsist for very long.” Is mere national survival a sufficient justification to return to requiring accuracy in the news? Is it legally sufficient to pass strict scrutiny? If it is not, after a Democrat-run Congress returns to the Fairness Doctrine, this high court will have elevated partisan interests to the point of national suicide.


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Dig
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1  seeder  Dig    6 months ago
As of May 12, 2026, 38% of the nation still supports Trump because 38% of the nation watches Fox News, purveyors of pure Trump propaganda. And compared to other consumers, Fox News viewers do not diversify their sources.

After the 2020 election, the Pew Research Center did a deep dive to learn what Americans heard, perceived and knew about it. Researchers found, for example, that 63% of Fox News viewers had given Trump an “excellent” rating on Covid. Trump suggested injecting bleach into unspecified orifices while over 1 million Americans died, yet Fox viewers thought he did an excellent job?

More accurately it was a con job, perpetrated by Fox News.

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Unless someone is profiting from their false speech, the court ruled, there’s no actionable fraud—they’re simply lying. But false speech connected to economic gain on one side and economic harm on the other is fraud, legally unprotected under the First Amendment.

Under this definition, Fox News is engaged in classic consumer fraud. Fox admitted in the Dominion case that they lied to their viewers for profit, and paid out nearly $1 billion in settlement as a result. But their lies didn’t stop after that case, they continue to sell 24/7 Trump propaganda as ‘news.’ They are perpetrating the same fraud, one that hooks viewers, profiting Fox and their corporate backers, while materially harming victims by convincing them to vote against their own economic interests.

Under Supreme Court precedent, Fox News isn’t engaging in protected political speech. It’s engaging in commercial fraud. And the victims aren’t just Fox viewers, even though studies show they are harmed the most: the entire nation is enduring political violence, extreme division and rumblings of civil war because 38% of the country is being lied to.
 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Dig @1    6 months ago
Unless someone is profiting from their false speech, the court ruled, there’s no actionable fraud—they’re simply lying. But false speech connected to economic gain on one side and economic harm on the other is fraud, legally unprotected under the First Amendment.

Aren't they selling commercial time based on their 'guaranteed conservative lies' even if they didn't lie about Dominion? I mean, if your business model is to lie your ass off telling gullible people what they want to hear and those gullible people are stupid enough to pay you, is it only a crime if those objectively stupid people wake up and sue?

 
 
 
Dig
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1.2.1  seeder  Dig  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2    6 months ago

I doubt the objectively stupid people would ever sue. They LOVE the false reality. 

What a shame it is that Dominion settled quietly instead of proceeding with a highly publicized public trial. They could have ruined Fox.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3  devangelical  replied to  Dig @1    6 months ago

fox news has equaled bullshit for as long as I can remember and it was the late 80's or early 90's when the maga-types were trying to get it taken off the air because of the simpson's show ... 

 
 
 
RU4Real
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1.3.1  RU4Real  replied to  devangelical @1.3    6 months ago

I remember that, as well as Married With Children, maybe In Living Color as well.  Fox was the "Renegade" (but in a cool way) network.  Then their "cable "News" network began, which always leaned right from what I remember, but now it's just...jrSmiley_85_smiley_image.gif jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif .

Though I do watch their streaming network Fox News channel (Live and Raw?) a few times a week as there are a couple broadcasters on there who stay even kiled.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.2  devangelical  replied to  RU4Real @1.3.1    6 months ago

careful, like alcohol and drugs, too much FOX causes brain damage ...

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Dig @1    6 months ago
38% of the nation

So MAGA and a few others.  Most likely millionaires and billionaires because FoxNews lets them feel better about their life choices to screw over everyone else for money.

 
 
 
Dig
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2  seeder  Dig    6 months ago

Personally, I caught onto the Fox News "propaganda for profit" con job in late 2002/early 2003, during the build up to the invasion of Iraq, when the entire rest of the world was saying that Saddam was not developing WMD, but Fox wasn't having it. That's when I stopped watching. Since then I've only ever tuned in occasionally, and only for short times to reaffirm the craziness, and there's been a loooooong list of craziness.

Tabloid tycoon Rupert Murdoch has probably done more harm to our country than anyone other than Trump, who was himself largely enabled by Murdoch's ministry of propaganda, Fox News.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3  TᵢG    6 months ago

Tragically, too many people can be persuaded by propaganda.   This fundamental weakness historically enables exploitation and results in nothing good.

 
 
 
Dig
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3.1  seeder  Dig  replied to  TᵢG @3    6 months ago
Tragically, too many people can be persuaded by propaganda.

And not just propaganda, but demagogic propaganda. The old scapegoating divide and conquer thing, which is so freakin' obvious. It's astonishing that so many people have proven to be so susceptible to it. I never would have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, beginning with Trump's first run for office.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Dig @3.1    6 months ago

Worse, this has been going on for years and Trump has grown more outrageous over time.   Nothing seems to sink in with these people.   They cannot seem to connect dots that already have a line drawn between them.

It is sickening to behold.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @3    6 months ago
Tragically, too many people can be persuaded by propaganda.

When you look at the results of the Asch conformity experiments which work even on relatively intelligent educated people, it's not hard to see why those with poor educations who have already been conditioned to not trust science, facts and higher education by their pastors would be so easily fooled. And even when presented with the facts and shown the hidden camera footage and told everyone in the room was in on it and lying to them, rightwing conservative Trump supporters would still be in denial. "Well, clearly everyone here is insane and working for Joe Biden because Walmart is closing 250 of its 303 stores in California due to their $22 an hour minimum wage, just like the tweet from the best President in the universe said. And also, why wouldn't everyone, liberals included, want to see their drug prices go down 1500%? Why is everyone giving the most amazing President such a hard time?". They spend all their time in the room with Fox News that is intentionally lying to them and even when shown how Fox had to admit in court that it KNOWINGLY lied to its viewers, these incredible stupid gullible morons line up for another helping of bullshit.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2.1  JBB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2    6 months ago

original

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.2  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @3.2.1    6 months ago

The thing is, this seems to be accurate for many Trump supporters.   And for those who know he is full of shit, one wonders what motivates them to support him when he is clearly damaging this nation and the world (and personally hurting them too).

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.2    6 months ago
what motivates them to support him when he is clearly damaging this nation

Stupid people really hate and resent being called stupid, especially when its proven true. To me the most surprising thing is how people with zero shame could be so proud and haughty as to refuse to admit when they're wrong.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.2.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2.3    6 months ago
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Trout Giggles
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4  Trout Giggles    6 months ago

About the seed photo. Good choice. Hannity claimed during the trmp/Pope feud that he was no longer a practicing Catholic. And to that I say...you never were, Mr. Hannity. The only thing that the RCC is conservative on is abortion and gay marriage. That other stuff about taking care of the poor, the sick, the hungry goes against everything you believe in. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    6 months ago

Yeah that really struck me too.   Hannity has devolved from a partisan with ethics (Hannity & Colmes days) into a partisan whore who would actually denounce his religion merely because the Pope opposes some of Trump's positions.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    6 months ago

As of May 12, 2026, 38% of the nation still supports Trump because 38% of the nation watches Fox News, purveyors of pure Trump propaganda

the irony of this seed and the comments from the left in response is fantastic.   Anyone taking the seed  seriously needs a serious look in the mirror.  The excepted  sentence alone should make any person with any critical thinking skills do a spit take it is so idiotic.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    6 months ago

While I will say you don't get alot of news on fox news without the spin it is still more news than you get on MSNBC and CNN combined.

Cable  "news" has just become a place for people to get their dose of confirmation bias.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1    6 months ago
While I will say you don't get alot of news on fox news without the spin it is still more news than you get on MSNBC and CNN combined.

Fox News started very good.   It is now a Trump spin machine.   This is blatant.   How anyone cannot see this is sad.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.1    6 months ago

My comment is true.  Bret Baier is mostly news which is one more show than CNN and MSNBC combined.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.2    6 months ago
Bret Baier is mostly news which is one more show than CNN and MSNBC combined.

Bret Baier is one of the best at Fox.

Your claim that Fox is providing more accurate news than CNN, et. al. is unsubstantiated bullshit.

Those who buy the collective spin from Fox will align well with Trump supporters.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.3    6 months ago
Your claim that Fox is providing more accurate news than CNN, et. al. is unsubstantiated bullshit.

Perhaps we're blessed with one of Gutfelds comedy writers on our boards, because clearly claiming Fox is in anyway 'accurate' is a joke.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.3    6 months ago
Your claim that Fox is providing more accurate news than CNN, et. al. is unsubstantiated bullshit.

CNN and MSNBC are just for left wing confirmation bias.

It is sad that many people can't see that.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.4    6 months ago

Gutfeld is brilliant but he doesn't claim to be news.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.5    6 months ago

You cannot substantiate your claim about Fox, so instead you pen yet another bullshit comment.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.7    6 months ago

Except for the fact I did.  You just don't like it so you attack.  Standard tactic when refuting the comment can't be done.

I am done with nonsense.  My statement stands.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.8    6 months ago

A lie.  You offered no substantiation for your claim.  

We can all read what you wrote and can all see that all you did was make claims — no substantiation whatsoever.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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5.1.10  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.5    6 months ago
t is sad that many people can't see that.

yes, yes it is

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.1.10    6 months ago

It sure is.  If folks like what they hear it is news and if they don't like what they hear it is propaganda from "the other" side.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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5.1.12  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.8    6 months ago
My statement stands

and for more you will never know,

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one could ever grow.  

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scraped off this guy,

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Right Down the Center
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5.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.1.12    6 months ago

My statement still stands, even after whatever that was.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.14  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.2    6 months ago
My comment is true.

Your comment is opinion, and likely an uninformed one as well.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.14    6 months ago
Your comment is opinion, and likely an uninformed one as well.

That is your opinion(as are the vast majority of comments here), and you are welcome to it.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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5.1.16  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.13    6 months ago
My statement still stands, even after whatever that was.

Oui' finally agree....

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.17  devangelical  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.1.16    6 months ago

as the recognized oracle of maga truth, I guess that means fox's recent trump performance polls must be accurate ...

 
 
 
Thomas
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5.1.20  Thomas  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.13    6 months ago

Your statement, until you provide evidence to back it up, is bare assertion. Until and unless you do provide such evidence it will remain bare assertion. You , however, want it treated on the same level as fact until it is proven not to be so. 

Sorry, but it just doesn't work that way. You claimed it, therefore you have to provide the substantiation of the claim when asked for it.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.22  Right Down the Center  replied to  Thomas @5.1.20    5 months ago

I am still waiting for proof of the claim he is unfit. Until then since he is currently the president doing his duties he is fit

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.23  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.22    5 months ago
I am still waiting for proof of the claim he is unfit.

Typical stupid tactic.   I have repeatedly given you a list of reasons why he is unfit.   You reject them all as only opinion (as if none are facts) and demand proof.   

You even reject the most obvious fact for why Trump is unfit to be PotUS:   he is the only PotUS who tried to steal a US presidential election with fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.   A profound violation of his oath of office and the CotUS!

The only proof you claim you will accept is a medical determination because you know that will never happen unless Trump has a profound medical failure.   Further, you pretend that being unfit for office means medically unfit and disregard being unfit due to character, competence, etc.

In other words, you have nothing but bullshit.   And as you engage in your feeble deflection and obtuseness tactics, we all are observing a Trump supporter who cannot defend Trump, will not acknowledge Trump's unfitness, and instead attempts to play laughably obvious games.

Buy a vowel.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.24  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.23    5 months ago

Different day, same bullshit

Typical stupid tactic. 

Of course, you don't  like it

 I have repeatedly given you a list of reasons why he is unfit.   

No, you haven't.  You have given lists of why you don't like him

You reject them all as only opinion (as if none are facts) and demand proof. 

Rising to being unfit is your opinion so I rightfully demand proof 

You even reject the most obvious fact for why Trump is unfit to be PotUS:   he is the only PotUS who tried to steal a US presidential election with fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.   A profound violation of his oath of office and the CotUS!

What duties can't he perform because of that (assuming it is correct)?

The only proof you claim you will accept is a medical determination because you know that will never happen unless Trump has a profound medical failure. 

Yes, the only one that counts

Further, you pretend that being unfit for office means medically unfit and disregard being unfit due to character, competence, etc.

Of course, anything else is OPINION.

In other words, you have nothing but bullshit.   

Projection

And as you engage in your feeble deflection and obtuseness tactics,  

Projection part 2

Buy a vowel.

End on a high note.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.25  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.24    5 months ago

Do you actually believe that posts like @5.1.24 accomplish anything?   

Do you think you are persuading anyone?

What duties can't he perform because of that (assuming it is correct)?

The duty to preserve, protect, and defend the CotUS.   Of course, you need an MD to declare that Trump has violated his oath of office and the CotUS.   1280

Buy a vowel.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.29  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.25    5 months ago
Do you actually believe that posts like @5.1.24 accomplish anything?   

Yes, it responds to your bullshit post and calls it out for what it is.  An opinion.  What do you accomplish by typing the same list several times a day and claim it is proof of anything other than your opinion?  Do you think you are persuading anyone?

Do you think you are persuading anyone?

Do you think I am trying to?  It seems to be more important to others.

  Buy a vowel.

Obviously you have nothing of substance so you resort to nonsens

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.30  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.29    5 months ago
Do you think I am trying to? 

If not, you are simply trolling.   To what end?

What value is it to post laughably feeble, ridiculous 'arguments' to 'support' your belief that Trump is fit to be PotUS?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.1.31  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.29    5 months ago

Parts of this thread were removed for no value.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.32  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.30    5 months ago
 simply trolling,  laughably feeble, ridiculous 'arguments' 

So bullshit nonsense projection is what the posts have to devolved to.

I do believe I have said all I need to say.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.33  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.32    5 months ago

You believe Trump is fit for office.

That is the key takeaway.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.34  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.33    5 months ago

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Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.35  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.32    5 months ago
So bullshit nonsense projection is what the posts have to devolved to.

Devolved to? This comment thread was started with pure rightwing conservative projection, " Anyone taking the seed seriously needs a serious look in the mirror."

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I do believe I have said all I need to say.

Heard that before.

5.1.8    Right Down the Center    replied to    TᵢG   @ 5.1.7      3 days ago
I am done with nonsense.
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.36  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.35    5 months ago

Uh huh

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    6 months ago
Anyone taking the seed seriously needs a serious look in the mirror.

Why? Can't you address the fact that Fox News is lying to its viewers without attempting a lame what-about-ism? If you're shown evidence that a conservative Republican raped kids, why try and find some Democrat you can claim did something similar? Why not just address the conservative Republican pedophile?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2    6 months ago
Why?

Because I understand numbers. Their claim is so absurd that the readers who it is meant for should be mad they are treated like such gullible fools. Alas...

t you address the fact that Fox News is lying to its viewers

This is from Alternet.  Think about readers of Alternet complaining about other sites lying to their readers and providing partisan propaganda.

Alternet is leading sheep around by the nose and telling them "You aren't sheep, look at the sheep over there."  It's sad so many progressives are so easy to manipulate. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.1    6 months ago
Alternet is leading sheep around by the nose and telling them "You aren't sheep, look at the sheep over there."  It's sad so many progressives are so easy to manipulate. 

It is a great formula for the simple minded.  Give the people what they want, keeping the finger pointing at others you never have to think you are as bad (or worse) than the people you are complaining about.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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5.2.3  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.1    6 months ago
Because I understand numbers.

That sure is swell.

Maybe attempt to understand letters, as well.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.4  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.2    6 months ago

Ironic given this seed is about how Fox has degraded from a somewhat balanced source to a spin-chamber for Trump.

Anyone supporting or defending Trump at this point —with all he has done— has no credibility to criticize other sources.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.4    6 months ago

Obviously credibility, or lack thereof, is in the eye of the beholder.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.6  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.5    6 months ago

Those who routinely deny clear facts will, justifiably, not be seen as credible.   Those who still support/defend Trump are denying the clear facts of his many wrongdoings, his incompetence, his psychopathy, etc.   

Do you, for example, believe Trump is competent, honest, empathetic, law-abiding, honorable, etc., compared to the average American, and is fit to serve as PotUS?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.6    6 months ago
Those who routinely deny clear facts will, justifiably, not be seen as credible.

Clear "facts" are often opinions put forth as facts.  The folks that put them forward can justifiably be seen by many as having no credibility.

And as we all know: credibility, or lack thereof, is in the eye of the beholder.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.8  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.7    6 months ago

And of course you demure.   You yet again fail to even acknowledge the harsh reality of Trump.   What drives people like you to support this abysmal human being no matter what he has done?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.8    6 months ago
You yet again fail to even acknowledge the harsh reality of Trump.   What drives people like you to support this abysmal human being no matter what he has done?

No matter what the subject of the conversation is it always seems to end up here.

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TᵢG
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5.2.10  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.9    6 months ago

Declaring Fox News (which has devolved into a spin machine for Trump) as more credible than the other channels combined is yet another post in support of Trump.

Expect challenges and refutations when you make posts that illustrate approval of Trump.   

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.10    6 months ago
Declaring Fox News (which has devolved into a spin machine for Trump) as more credible than the other channels combined is yet another post in support of Trump.

Not even close.  What I actually said was Bret Baier is the only news guy on all three stations.  If you want to take that as I find other things on Fox as credible that is on you.  Try reading and understanding the context more and interpreting so narrowly less

Expect challenges and refutations when you make posts that illustrate approval of Trump.

Try understanding what is written.  It is amazing that you can be so wrong so often by accident.   

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.12  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.11    6 months ago

Here is what you stated @5.1 and this is what I initially responded to:

RdtC@5.1 ☞ While I will say you don't get alot of news on fox news without the spin it is still more news than you get on MSNBC and CNN combined.

I understood what you wrote and the implications of you claiming that the spin machine for Trump is more newsworthy than its main competitors combined.

So, yet again, you post bullshit.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.12    6 months ago
I understood what you wrote

Obviously not. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.14  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.13    6 months ago

More feeble denials.

Those who still support/defend Trump are denying the clear facts of his many wrongdoings, his incompetence, his psychopathy, etc.   

Do you, for example, believe Trump is competent, honest, empathetic, law-abiding, honorable, etc., compared to the average American, and is fit to serve as PotUS?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.14    6 months ago
More feeble denials.

That doesn't even make sense. 

Those who still support/defend Trump are denying the clear facts of his many wrongdoings, his incompetence, his psychopathy, etc.   

"Clear facts" are often opinions put forth as facts. The folks that put them forward can justifiably be seen by many as having no credibility.

And as we all know: credibility, or lack thereof, is in the eye of the beholder.

Do you, for example, believe Trump is competent, honest, empathetic, law-abiding, honorable, etc., compared to the average American, and is fit to serve as PotUS?

Here we are again.

Sigh.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.2.16  devangelical  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.15    6 months ago
Here we are again

... yeah, a question you cannot answer.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.17  Right Down the Center  replied to  devangelical @5.2.16    6 months ago

Nope. Try again. Better yet, dont bother

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.18  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.1    6 months ago
Alternet is leading sheep around by the nose and telling them "You aren't sheep, look at the sheep over there." 

Whether Alternet is leading their own sheep is immaterial to the fact that Fox News has been caught rogering their own gullible sheep and has admitted to knowingly lying to their viewers. Just because you think its hypocritical does not in ANY WAY make the lies Fox is telling its viewers any more truthful. Obviously you don't like the fact that Fox is being exposed so you're here desperately trying to throw up a defense of the indefensible and trying a sad almost silly 'what-about-ism' to do it. And of course, when it's pointed out conservatives feign victimhood and delve into even more tired lame excuses. But I suppose when that's all conservatives have left and they're standing there, pants down, exposed, embarrassed, weak, shriveled and crying, they will snort back their dripping noses and lash out again with more "But Biden! But Obama! But Democrats!" because these useless Trump sycophants have nothing else to offer. Talk about easy to manipulate, they all spend their days metaphorically leaping in the air, so when Trump tells them to jump, they won't even have to ask "How high?" just like the pathetic loser sidekicks they aspire to be.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.19  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  devangelical @5.2.16    6 months ago
a question you cannot answer.

It seems he just answered your query.

"Do you, for example, believe Trump is competent, honest, empathetic, law-abiding, honorable, etc., compared to the average American, and is fit to serve as PotUS?"

His answer in 5.2.17:

"Nope."

So, the next question, of course, should be "So why would you support and defend an incompetent, dishonest, pathetic, law-breaking, dishonorable dipshit for PoTUS?".

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.18    6 months ago
make the lies Fox

In the cable news business it is called spin and it has been done since the networks realized it was much more profitable to tell people what they want to hear than actual news.  What I find interesting is so many on the left just coming to this realization now and believe it is specific to Fox.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.21  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.20    6 months ago
What I find interesting is so many on the left just coming to this realization now and believe it is specific to Fox.

Another absurd belief.   Most learned people understand that spin is replete in the media.   Some channels spin more than others ... another fact most likely realize.

You, however, claim that Fox spins less than its direct competitors combined.   A laughable claim that you cannot substantiate.

That claim does explain why your posts are so soft on the Trump administration yet routinely harsh on Ds.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.22  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.21    6 months ago

Interesting 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.23  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.20    6 months ago
In the cable news business it is called spin

What Fox News is engaged in isn't just spin, they're blatant lies.

On March   31, 2023, Delaware Superior Court judge Eric Davis ruled in a  summary judgment  that it "is  crystal  clear that none of the statements relating to Dominion about the 2020 election are true " and ordered the case to trial on April   17 to determine if the network had acted with actual malice. Davis rejected the assertion of Fox News that the content in question should be treated as "pure opinion" protected by the First Amendment, ruling that the content was either assertions of fact or "mixed opinion." He added that even if the content were pure opinion, "accusations of criminal activity, even in the form of opinion, are not constitutionally protected."

Dominion Voting Systems v. Fox News Network - Wikipedia

Rupert Murdoch , the billionaire owner of Fox News, acknowledged under oath that several Fox News hosts endorsed Donald Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him.

Murdoch acknowledged in his deposition that he could have ordered the network not to platform Trump lawyers such as Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani on its programs: “I could have. But I didn’t,” he said. “That whole narrative that Sidney was pushing, I did not believe it for one second”.

Rupert Murdoch testified that Fox News hosts ‘endorsed’ stolen election narrative | Rupert Murdoch | The Guardian

That's not "spin", that's knowingly LYING to your viewers. They didn't believe the lies they were selling, but they sold them anyway because they knew the buyers didn't want the truth because they knew their viewers. You don't try to sell lies to honest, rational, good hearted, kind, intelligent people, that would be silly because they'd see right through it. Fox knew their viewers appetite and led them to the trough of lies and the fat bigot pigs gobbled it all up and they're still whining and crying claiming it wasn't really lies at all. No doubt those who ate at that trough would be desperately defending their choice to do so claiming it wasn't a shitty "lie" they gobbled down, it was just a "spun" turd, as if that makes all the difference.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.24  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.23    6 months ago

CNN:

  • Zachary Young (2025): A Florida jury found CNN liable for defamation after a 2021 segment falsely implied a Navy veteran and security contractor participated in an illegal "black market" to evacuate people from Afghanistan. The jury ordered CNN to pay \(\$5\) million in compensatory damages. To avoid a second phase of the trial that could have resulted in massive punitive damages, CNN settled with Young for an undisclosed sum.
  • Nicholas Sandmann (2020): CNN reached a confidential financial settlement with a Covington Catholic High School student who sued the network for \(\$275\) million. The lawsuit was filed after the network's broadcasts and articles falsely portrayed the teen's interaction with a Native American activist at the Lincoln Memorial. [ 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 ]

MSNBC

  • The Claim: In 2020, MSNBC anchors—including Rachel Maddow, Nicolle Wallace, and Chris Hayes—repeatedly aired segments accusing Dr. Mahendra Amin, a Georgia gynecologist who treated detainees at an ICE facility, of performing "mass hysterectomies" without consent. Network hosts and journalists dubbed him the "uterus collector". [ 1 , 2 ]
  • The Reality: A federal investigation revealed the accusations to be false. The doctor had performed only two hysterectomies during that time, both of which were medically necessary. [ 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 ]
  • The Outcome: The presiding federal judge ruled that the statements broadcasted on MSNBC were "verifiably false". Facing a $30 million defamation trial, NBCUniversal reached a settlement with the doctor to have the case dismissed. [ 1 , 2 , 3 ]
 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.25  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.24    6 months ago

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So, when you can't actually prove Fox wasn't LYING to their viewers as has been pointed out, you dig deep for another what-about-ism. It would be funny if it wasn't getting so sad. Also, you don't actually think the shit you're posting is relevant or equivalent to Fox News knowingly lying for YEARS, do you? Really?

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Right Down the Center
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5.2.26  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.25    6 months ago
dig deep for another

Naw, it was right there.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.27  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.26    6 months ago
it was right there.

Right where? wbznewsradio.iheart.com? I'm sure you didn't have to go looking at all. /s

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Right Down the Center
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5.2.28  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.27    6 months ago

That was funny.  S/

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.29  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.15    6 months ago

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Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.30  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.29    6 months ago
Do you ever feel like you the person you are interacting with is just talking in circles and completely clueless about it?  

I think many MAGAites know what it feels like to have others talk circles around them while they sit there completely clueless. Clueless is the MAGA default state.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.31  Right Down the Center  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.29    6 months ago

Yes, it is like they never read my  comments at all and just stick to the same tired script.

Not a very credible look

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.32  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.30    6 months ago

Nice try but......no

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.33  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.31    6 months ago
It is a sad look.

Yeah, we should all feel so sorry for those who laugh at MAGA pain...

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Poor things, out in the cold with no one to wipe their noses for them.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.34  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.33    6 months ago

Nice try but......no

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.35  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.30    6 months ago
I think many MAGAites know what it feels like to have others talk circles around them while they sit there completely clueless.

there is your problem.  You THINK and it's based on little experience.  Now if you go back and actually read the statements, it becomes obvious that you are all talking in circles arguing about something YOU all stated.  Not RDTC.  YOU stated.

Step away from the conversations in your heads and actually read.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2.36  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.30    6 months ago

They are completely clueless but still think they are smarter than every one else in the room. And to prove it they just keep shouting louder and louder

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.37  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.31    6 months ago
Yes, it is like they never read my  comments at all and just stick to the same tired script.

I think that's EXACTLY what is going on.  Your comments don't fit their script that was given to them or of the conversation in their head.  And they will continue to regurgitate the same idiot nonsense and personal attacks until you capitulate

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.38  Right Down the Center  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.35    6 months ago

I think I am not on the approved posters list so attack mode is always enabled when I post.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.39  Right Down the Center  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.37    6 months ago
until you capitulate

Or grow bored because an honest discussion is nowhere to be had.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.40  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.39    6 months ago

Honest discussion possibilites are thrown out the moment they click "Reply".  Before the text box appears they already have already copied from their script and ready to be pasted in there.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.41  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.38    6 months ago

I think it's that you are the most recent to push back against the fiction in their heads.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.42  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.36    6 months ago
And to prove it they just keep shouting louder and louder

Or they circle jerk back and forth between their confirmation bias buddy convincing themselves they're the smart ones.

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devangelical
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5.2.43  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.42    6 months ago

maga bobbleheads ...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.44  Right Down the Center  replied to  devangelical @5.2.43    6 months ago

It seems you have the wrong party.  On sale now for 24 dollars because.........well, you know.

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Tacos!
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5.3  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    6 months ago
The excepted  sentence alone should make any person with any critical thinking skills do a spit take it is so idiotic.

Just declaring it doesn’t make it so. If you really think critical thinking skills would reveal the truth, why don’t you give some examples?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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6  Hal A. Lujah    6 months ago

I think that for 38% of America just hates democrats so fucking much that refusing to vote for a Democrat under any circumstances is a hill they literally see worth dying on.  If the alternative is a Republican, then the Republican gets their vote every time, no matter how awful that decision will be for them and the country.  Pure hatred towards democrats until death.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6    6 months ago
to vote for a Democrat under any circumstances is a hill they literally see worth dying on

because of trump's collective incompetence, diehard republican voters are quickly approaching extinction. we saw the same phenom previous to their tea party infestation. calling themselves independents and then voting for republicans 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  devangelical @6.1    6 months ago
diehard republican voters are quickly approaching extinction

"Die Hard Republicans 2: Die Harder" coming soon to an election near you!

38% of America just hates democrats so fucking much that refusing to vote for a Democrat under any circumstances

It's not that they hate Democrats so much, they just hate anyone who exposes them as pathetic poorly educated religious bigots, and the Democrats platform of supporting women, lgtbq and minority Americans rights has essentially been doing that for the last two decades. And they first began to 'rise up' as the "Tea Party" when the first black President was elected which pissed these bigots off to no end. In fact, they're still pissed off at it and continue to complain and lie about or first black President. And today they have completely sold their apparently very cheap souls off to Donald Trump for a cheap red trucker hat.

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Hal A. Lujah
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6.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.1.1    6 months ago

We can keep insisting that the simple answer is that they are just stupid, but I really think the Trump base is just so deeply hateful of democrats that they would take a bullet before they would ever vote for one.  They are bred and raised this way, and their aversion to democrats is on par with a devout Christian’s aversion to Satan.  This aversion has a cult level control over them, and there is no koolaid too poisonous for them to slurp down with reckless abandon so long as democrats are shunned by it.  You can see it in countless street interviews.  Are they also stupid?  Yes, of course, but even stupid people have some level survival skills that hardcore Trump supporters lack.  If a major third party were to precipitate out of this hopelessly discordant political mess, they could be persuaded away from maga, but it would never be toward democrats.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6.1.2    6 months ago

as soon as FOX is mentioned positively by a rwnj in a political discussion, any meaningful conversation is over ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @6.1.3    6 months ago

Mr G will tell me something he heard on Fox and my ears go numb. Then I walk away

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.4    6 months ago

fortunately for me, there's a lot more intelligent people than maga morons in my family. the magatards in my family are my age and older and for the most part their kids didn't turn into maga-thumpers, they rejected it. after years of humiliation, the magas related to me know better than to mention FOX by name and organized religion in general or there's going to be some hurt feelings. in an ironic twist, all the magas on both sides of my family also pretend to be religious in addition to their facade of being patriotic americans.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1.6  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.4    6 months ago

Caregivers swear blocking Fox News relieves elder rage...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1.7  JBB  replied to  devangelical @6.1.5    6 months ago

original The Archetype of which you speak...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.1.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  devangelical @6.1.5    6 months ago
for the most part their kids didn't turn into maga-thumpers, they rejected it.

Which is also why they're so pissed off, they see their bigoted white conservative Christian universe shrinking with the next generation completely abandoning them. Of course, when you're a metaphorical quarantine zone of infectious brain diseases like MAGAland, most people and especially our youth avoid it like the plague that it is.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.9  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.1.8    6 months ago

I don't understand why they're so pissed, they want to feel special and have their own unique individual freedom in america and they've achieved it. the freedom to be fucking stupid ...

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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6.1.10  Igknorantzruls  replied to  devangelical @6.1.9    6 months ago
they want to feel special and have their own unique individual freedom in america and they've achieved it. the freedom to be fucking stupid ...

All as they reject intelligence, if it is not what they wish to hear, as Rupert and the WSJ have been finding out as of late.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.11  devangelical  replied to  JBB @6.1.7    6 months ago

that's exactly what those racist antebellum southern belles eventually turn into, a wrinkled old bag o' maga shit ...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.1.12  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JBB @6.1.6    6 months ago
Caregivers swear blocking Fox News relieves elder rage...

Caregivers turning the channel to Fox News at retirement homes should be charged with elder abuse.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1.13  JBB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.1.12    6 months ago

It is a real problem in care facilities. One way or the other, the elder citizens exposed to Fox News get angry...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
6.1.14  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JBB @6.1.13    6 months ago
It is a real problem in care facilities. One way or the other, the elder citizens exposed to Fox News get angry...

They just need to leave it on PBS 'Antiques Roadshow', that always calms them down and makes them feel good and fantasize about all the old shit they used to own that they imagine might have been worth millions.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.4    5 months ago

Thank your husband for the suggestion on how to get my wife to walk away.  I will tell you how it goes.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.16  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.1.12    5 months ago
Caregivers turning the channel to Fox News at retirement homes should be charged with elder abuse.

a decade ago I used to block FOX on my mom's cable box whenever I visited, but I had to quit when I found out she was paying some local goober too much to unblock it.

 
 

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