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What other skeletons are lurking in Graham Platner's closet?

  

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Via:  s  •  5 months ago  •  88 comments

What other skeletons are lurking in Graham Platner's closet?
The Maine Democrat joined Kik when it was already known as a hotbed for child pornography, kidnapping, and sexual abuse.

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hat   have we learned at this point about Graham Platner, presumptive Democratic candidate for Senate in the high-stakes race against Susan Collins in Maine? Mainers — and the   national media   — were certainly sold one story about Platner: that of an antiwar Marine during the Iraq War, a hardscrabble oysterman, and a working-class straight talker.

And then, one by one,   we discovered   that each of these biographical points were, when not outright false, distorted beyond all recognition. It turns out that Platner, who frequently accuses Senator Collins of “voting to send him to Iraq,” actively volunteered two years after the United States declared war because — in his own words, later hastily erased from Reddit — “I wanted to have an adventure and kill some people.” (He hated the job so much he later signed up with Blackwater as a mercenary to go to Afghanistan.) It turns out that his vaunted oyster farm’s   biggest customer   is his mother, who buys his tiny haul for her restaurant.




Platner boasts of being a “working-class guy living a working-class life,” but a   New York Times   investigation   into his background earlier this month revealed that he was in fact the rich and downwardly mobile progeny of upper-class wealth, a man who attended one of the most   expensive and elite   private schools in America — but only for a year, before transferring to a   different   private school. He is and has always been financially supported by his parents, who bought his house for him and keep him in “business,” such as it is. In other words, he’s a failson turning to politics in his idle frustration. (It is a story familiar to many   upper-class families .)

And then, of course, there’s the whole problem of the Nazi death’s head he tattooed across his chest at the age of 20 and proudly kept right up until the moment it became public knowledge last November. You know the details of the story already — this, taken with the many “Nazi-curious” acts scattered throughout his known life to date, would have instantly disqualified him from running for office in any sane world, but sanity left the 2026 electoral cycle long ago.

Now, the latest scandal emerges, and it’s quite the doozy. It turns out that earlier in the spring of 2025, mere months before he declared his candidacy, Graham Platner was   caught by his wife   juggling as many as six separate sexting relationships with other people. From the   New York Times :

Mr. Platner’s wife, Amy Gertner, told a senior campaign aide that he had been exchanging sexual messages with multiple other women.

It was the kind of revelation with the potential to damage the political newcomer just as his campaign to unseat Senator Susan Collins, a Republican, was beginning to resonate with voters, especially in a state where female voters make up a large share of the electorate.

Mr. Platner’s exchanges with women were confirmed by current and former campaign officials, who gave different accounts of some of the details. Ms. Gertner said the couple, who had married in November 2023, according to the town clerk of Sullivan, Maine, was working through his indiscretions in marriage counseling.

Democrats were already concerned enough about having to back a man who proudly tattooed a Nazi death’s head across his chest and kept it even   after   the moment he decided he wanted to run for Senate as a progressive leftist. But what will they do if they find themselves politically committed to an actual moral monster? What if there are worse and more reckless things in the world than tattooing a   t otenkopf   on your right breast?

Because you need to understand: I’m not talking about Graham Platner’s marriage difficulties here. That’s what the story (also covered in similar detail by the   Wall Street Journal , suggesting both were working from the same sourcing simultaneously) is nominally about. But as disgusting as Platner’s treatment of his new wife was, it’s the sort of story we’ve all encountered before in politics. It   should   harm him with voters, but I can’t tell the voters of Maine what to think any more than I could convince Texas Republicans not to nominate   Jabba the Hutt   for Senate.

I do, however, think they’ll be turned off by the sight of   a nude Platner , wrapped only in a towel, posing   just perfectly   for his profile pic on an app called “Kik” to conceal the giant Nazi tattoo on his chest. (Remember: He claims he had no idea it was a hate symbol.) And this detail brings us to another problem: I want to know   why an adult male would have a Kik account .

The   Journal   reported that Platner “has an active account on Kik . . .  a messaging platform that has been widely used for sexual encounters.” The campaign told the paper that the candidate “had long deleted the app from his phone but hadn’t deactivated his account.”

Kik is known as a place for teenagers to speak anonymously and   has faced scrutiny   over incidents of sexual exploitation over the years. The   Journal   does not elaborate on Platner’s use of the platform — but the obvious question is raised: Why did he turn to this particular app?

As a secondary question: These new stories are primarily coming from (and being confirmed by) Genevieve McDonald, Platner’s former political director, who resigned in October. McDonald was the person charged with doing “internal oppo” on Platner — the normal vetting process whereby a campaign frankly assesses all of their candidate’s potential personal and political weaknesses. And as all of these stories about Platner’s personal rottenness drip forth, all with immaculate sourcing and ironclad claims, I begin to ask myself: What remaining skeletons could   possibly be hiding   in Graham Platner’s closet that would make McDonald not only quit his campaign, but also potentially dynamite her own career in order to tell the truth about him? What are we about to find out next about Graham Platner?


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Sean Treacy
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1  seeder  Sean Treacy    5 months ago

Graham Platner Has Active Profile On ‘Predator’s Paradise’ Messaging App

The Maine Democrat joined Kik when it was already known as a hotbed for child pornography, kidnapping, and sexual abuse.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    5 months ago

Another “crazed” democratic socialist ….. nothing more.

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.1  evilone  replied to  Sparty On @1.1    5 months ago
Another “crazed” democratic socialist ….. nothing more.

I would think 'crazy' and 'democratic socialist' were synonyms... those Bernie Bros are fucking nuts.

Just so we're all on the same page here - definitions of Democrat and Democrat Socialists are provided below:  

  • The Democratic Party: Operates within the established capitalist system. It aims to reduce inequality through progressive taxation, labor protections, and social programs (like the Affordable Care Act) while maintaining private ownership of businesses.
  • Democratic Socialists: Believe that capitalism is inherently exploitative and that the entire economic system must be transformed. They advocate for worker-owned cooperatives, nationalized healthcare (Medicare for All), and the decommodification of basic needs.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  evilone @1.1.1    5 months ago

Yes and just to clarify, our individual tax system is already very progressive.    The Affordable Care Act …. Wasn’t.    And the Government can’t run a good healthcare system for less than 5% of our population.     Anyone who believes they can do it for 100% of Americans is nuts. 

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.3  evilone  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.2    5 months ago
The Affordable Care Act …. Wasn’t.

Sure. So what's the Majority working on to fix it?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  evilone @1.1.3    5 months ago

Neither side seems interested in “really” fixing it but one thing I know for sure.    Universal Healthcare isn’t the answer until the Fed gets it shit together …. And I’m not holding my breath for that to happen

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.5  evilone  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.4    5 months ago
Neither side seems interested in “really” fixing it but one thing I know for sure.

We can agree on that. 

Universal Healthcare isn’t the answer until the Fed gets it shit together …. 

Congress needs to outlaw direct lobbying as bribery and start doing their jobs, instead of perpetually running for reelection.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.6  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  evilone @1.1.1    5 months ago

The Democrats are Democratic socialists are indistinguishable   as has been clear since the they let Sanders,  a Democratic Socialist, run in their presidential primary. 

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.7  evilone  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.6    5 months ago
The Democrats are Democratic socialists are indistinguishable

Only to people who don't care to pay attention or those pusing partisan propaganda. 

 as has been clear since the they let Sanders,  a Democratic Socialist, run in their presidential primary. 

Yeah... the internet meme that didn't win. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.8  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  evilone @1.1.7    5 months ago
who don't care to pay attention or those pusing partisan propaganda.

I get it's embarrassing that the Democratic Party now says "how high" when Democratic Socialists tell them to jump. But pretending they are separate entities at this point is silly. Like claiming the "freedom caucus" aren't Republicans.

he internet meme that didn't win

He won 23 states in 2016 and was basically bought off in 2020 with promises that Biden would turn his  domestic agenda over to the socialists, which he did. 

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.9  evilone  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.8    5 months ago
I get it's embarrassing that the Democratic Party now says "how high" when Democratic Socialists tell them to jump.

It is. The Democratic Party isn't anymore immune to the infection of populism than the Republican Party.

But pretending they are separate entities at this point is silly.

While I understand your point I disagree. 

Like claiming the "freedom caucus" aren't Republicans.

No and that doesn't really hold up. If you want to talk about how the two party system has a stranglehold on our electoral system, we can do that. But trying to equate different parties with overlapping ideals to parties that form internal caucus groups is not going to work with me. 

He won 23 states in 2016 and was basically bought off in 2020 with promises that Biden would turn his  domestic agenda over to the socialists, which he did. 

Sanders did not win the Democratic Party endorsement. He won his Vermont seat as an Independant. Biden made concessions to Progressives and Bernie Bros for votes, many of which are still pissed at him for not delivering.

If you're looking at me to defend Biden, or the Democrats, you're barking up the wrong tree. Biden got elected because he wasn't Trump. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    5 months ago
The Maine Democrat joined Kik when it was already known as a hotbed for child pornography, kidnapping, and sexual abuse.

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evilone
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2  evilone    5 months ago
And then, of course, there’s the whole problem of the Nazi death’s head he tattooed across his chest at the age of 20...

I heard he used the same artist Hegeth used for his Nazi ink. /s

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  evilone @2    5 months ago
ed the same artist Hegeth used for his Nazi ink

So Hegseth's artist does normal tattoos and then branches out into Nazi images for Democrats? Is that what you are saying? 

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.1  evilone  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    5 months ago
 Is that what you are saying? 

I'm saying anyone who condemns Platner while supporting Trump and Co are hypocrites. Assholes cut from the same cloth.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  evilone @2.1.1    5 months ago
one who condemns Platner while supporting Trump and Co are hypocrites.

Bizzare way to say that by refercing Hegseth just because he has tattooes . 

 Assholes cut from the same cloth.

Right, anyone who would vote for Platner while criticizing Trump is a hypocrite and an asshole. 

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.3  evilone  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.2    5 months ago
Bizzare way to say that by refercing Hegseth just because he has tattooes . 

You're not the first person to call me weird. 

Right, anyone who would vote for Platner while criticizing Trump is a hypocrite and an asshole. 

To think we finally agree on something and it's not even noon here on Monday. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  evilone @2.1.3    5 months ago
Right, anyone who would vote for Platner while criticizing Trump is a hypocrite and an asshole. 

This is a ridiculous statement. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  evilone @2.1.1    5 months ago
I'm saying anyone who condemns Platner while supporting Trump and Co are hypocrites

Platner has a Nazi tattoo and Democrats are openly supporting him.  Who in "Trump and Co" have Nazi tats?

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.6  evilone  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.4    5 months ago
This is a ridiculous statement. 

John, stop making me agree with Sean. I don't like it.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2.1.7  Gazoo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.5    5 months ago

Not sure about that one, but somebody in the trump admin wore a coat similar to a nazi coat and a huge deal was made about that.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.8  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.7    5 months ago
rump admin wore a coat similar to a nazi coat and a huge deal was made about that

Remember the hysteria over the "Nazi stage?"

And now we have a wannabe Senator who sported a  literal Nazi tattoo for about 20 years and it's no big deal...... 

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2.1.9  Gazoo  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.8    5 months ago

Oh yeah, and elon musk suddenly became a nazi because of a still photo. It’s ridiculous.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    5 months ago

But did Graham Platner party with Jeffrey Epstein?  Has Platner flown on Epstein's jet?  Has Platner visited Epstein Island?  

 
 
 
evilone
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3.1  evilone  replied to  Nerm_L @3    5 months ago
But did Graham Platner party with Jeffrey Epstein? 

I don't know about Epstien, but it sounds like he could have attended a lot of the same parties Matt Gaetz threw.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Nerm_L @3    5 months ago

not that anybody from the left would admit it.  They are only focused on ONE person despite what the records actually show.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2    5 months ago
not that anybody from the left would admit it.  They are only focused on ONE person despite what the records actually show.

The focus has been on Jeffrey Epstein.  Don't blame Democrats for Donald Trump mishandling the issue.  

(Democrats have not been unscathed by the Epstein scandal.  Democrats have held their own accountable, too.)  

Why would Democrats allow scandals to sidetrack their politics?  Why give Trump Republicans that advantage?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.1    5 months ago
The focus has been on Jeffrey Epstein.

Not it's not.  They're focusing on one person.

Don't blame Democrats for Donald Trump mishandling the issue.  

I don't.  Nowhere did I even attempt to point out that failure.

Why would Democrats allow scandals to sidetrack their politics?

That's a serious question?  

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.3  Nerm_L  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.2    5 months ago
Not it's not.  They're focusing on one person.

Which 'they'?  Jeffrey Epstein was a political weapon targeting Bill Clinton (and Democrats).   Donald Trump was not focusing on Trump when he made the Epstein files a political issue.  That was intended to be red meat for Trump's phony penthouse MAGA crew.  

I don't.  Nowhere did I even attempt to point out that failure.

You also did not point out that Trump's failure has normalized scandal.  Trump Republicans has twisted themselves into a double standard by ignoring Trump's questionable associations and questionable past.

That's a serious question?  

Yep, that was a serious question.  Trump Republicans have set a high bar for outrage.  Why should Democrats follow social norms when Trump Republicans believe they are above reproach?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.3    5 months ago
Which 'they'?  Jeffrey Epstein was a political weapon targeting Bill Clinton (and Democrats). 

and yet Clinton and the Democrats aren't the focus of the left now is he.  

You also did not point out that Trump's failure has normalized scandal.

I also didn't point out a "scandal".  I only noted that the left is only focused on one person.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  seeder  Sean Treacy    5 months ago

Nazi tattoo? Fine and dandy!

Push antisemitic conspiracies? Fine and dandy!

Admit you joined the army just because you want to kill people? Fine and dandy!

Cheating on your wife immediately after being married? Fine and dandy!

Wishing death upon wounded American soldiers ?  Fine and dandy!

Lying about your background?  Fine and dandy?

Set up profiles on sites designed for sex predators? Fine and dandy!

Have zero accomplishments other than being a bartender? Fine and dandy!

Train left wing domestic terrorists in military tactics? Fine and dandy!

The same people who attack Trump night and and day for his character are rallying around this clown to defeat the most moderate Senator in the Country.  IS there a line that would actually cause Democrats to turn on him?  

Yet again, the only thing that to Democrats is power. As their  embrace of Platner reveals, the only thing they don't like about Trump is the R after his name. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    5 months ago

You can ratchet down the poutrage; you're not fooling anyone. Trying to act all offended by this guy while giving your dear Leader Donald a pass on everything is truly the height of hypocrisy. Personally, I think Platners worst crime is being stupid enough to go along with his rightwing conservative Aryan nation macho military brothers to get a tattoo that he claims he didn't know what it meant. Of course, if he was actually out at rallies and protests side-by-side with neo-Nazis flying swastika flags like the MAGAites were flying their confederate flags in Charlottesville, then I'd have to agree and this guy has no place in the Democratic party.

Instead, all I see are the red-in-the-face with faux conservative outrage Trump sycophants desperate to try to score points for their slimy bigot boss. Anything they can do to deflect and defend for their dear Leader. It's like listening to North Korean loyalists defend the reign of the Kim's. The abject prostration and groveling before their disgusting idols of worship is truly sickening.

The same people who attack Trump night and and day for his character are rallying around this clown to defeat the most moderate Senator in the Country.

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Even if Platner had done EVERYTHING Trump has done, had been a 34 time convicted felon and accused pedophile, found liable for sexual assault, been accused by two dozen other women of sexual assault, cheated on all three of his wives, cheated on his third wife while she was home with their new baby and then paid porn stars he fucked nearly a quarter million to keep quiet during his campaign, been impeached for abuse of power not just once but twice, imposed illegal and unconstitutional tariffs on businesses, inspired an attempted insurrection where his followers beat officers and vandalized our Capital on his behalf only for him to pardon them for their crimes and is trying to set up a slush fund to pay them off for committing crimes on his behalf, even after ALL that, Platner would still not be running for the highest office in the land and thus not NEARLY as big a concern for America.

But you go ahead and get those invisible 'Emperor Trump' brand panties you bought online in a bunch and tell us all how furious you are about some controversial candidate in Maine, I guess the poutrage deflection is still a little entertaining.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1    5 months ago
Even if Platner had done EVERYTHING Trump has done,

This seems to be the standard answer : 

"It doesn't matter how bad someone is or how bad what they did was as long as it not as bad as I perceive Trump to be".

It has become a big yawner.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.1    5 months ago

Trump is the 800lb gorilla.   He continues to engage in outrageous words and deeds.   He holds the most powerful office on the planet and has used it to damage not only this nation but many other nations.

You have no defense for this but consistently engage in crap like your recent post ... downplaying the damage done by the destructive, corrupt Trump administration.

Trump should not be defended; he should be condemned.   It is views like yours that keep him in power.

Support for Trump is irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.2    5 months ago

Thanks for your opinion.   jrSmiley_117_smiley_image.png Anything new to add ?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.1    5 months ago
"It doesn't matter how bad someone is

It does to most Americans, but clearly not to Republicans. In Platner's case his faults are nowhere NEAR the dick bag conservatives elected. If all they can find against this guy is a tattoo from his days in the military and some unconfirmed accusations of sexting you guys have a LOOOOOONG way to go before you can claim any sort of equivalence with Trump. But nice try. For those who are desperate to keep digging hoping they'll find something concrete on this guy they can actually use to deflect attention from their disastrous Pompous Pustule in the oval office I've got several buckets of sand I can ship ready for pounding.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.4    5 months ago

If you don't see anything else bad about this guy It's because you're not listening or you're just ignoring it. 

But I understand,  the dems have to do what they have to do to remove the radical Susan Collins.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.6  bugsy  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.5    5 months ago
If you don't see anything else bad about this guy It's because you're not listening or you're just ignoring it

It's confirmation bias. 

Platner says what they want to hear, and "vote blue no matter who" overrides all else.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.4    5 months ago

Do you forgive him for any of these over the others...or all of them?

Here are the 14 known (as of now) scandalous things Platner has done:

  1. Wore   a Nazi SS (Death’s Head) tattoo for 18 years
  2. Has   account on the alleged predator sex-site Kik (he’s married)
  3. Explicit sexts   with half-dozen women in 2023 (he’s married)
  4. Disparaged   all black people as a population that doesn’t tip
  5. Blamed   sexual assault victims for being sexually assaulted
  6. Smeared   rural Maine population as racist
  7. Anti-gay   posts on Reddit
  8. Promoted   an alleged Holocaust denier on social media
  9. Bragged   about masturbating in public porta-potties
  10. Mocked   Purple Heart recipient as a “Dumb motherfucker didn’t deserve to live”
  11. Encouraged   military contractors to “bang hookers in Thailand”
  12. Called   the Virgin Mary a “skank”
  13. DUI
  14. Appeared   on antisemite’s podcast who says the Jews killed Kennedy

Attacking the source only means that there is no attempt to debunk the accusations, and acknowledges the accusations are correct.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.5    5 months ago
If you don't see anything else bad about this guy It's because you're not listening or you're just ignoring it. 

No. It's because I have a fairly decent bullshit detector and so far, most of the poutrage has been over hearsay and unconfirmed accusations and his supposed account on a "messaging platform that has been widely used for sexual encounters" as if that means anything. Trump was accused of rape and had two people, the victim and the girl that brought her to Epstein's, testify that he raped that girl when she was just 13. I'd say that's a bit worse of an "unconfirmed" accusation than an old defunct account for an app used for other things, but some claim is "widely used for sexual encounters". I mean, what even is the accusation? What are they claiming he did wrong? It's all fucking smoke and mirrors with these fucking loser rightwing conservatives. They jump into the headlines with what looks like a body in their teeth all full of righteous fury and they rip it to shreds as the witless conservative dance and chant, but on closer inspection anyone with more than half a brain can see there's nothing but straw falling out of their mouths from the straw man they just tore apart. And apparently, these idiots are dumb enough to think people actually believe them. What a bunch of stupid shameless goobers.

I don't give a fuck about Platner, I have no idea if he's a good guy or not. I do know just from a cursory glance that he isn't the monumental piece of shit liar that is Republicans apparent messiah and dear Leader they worship daily while downplaying all of his MANY faults. It's what consummate brown-nosers do and if there is one thing rightwing conservative Republicans have mastered in the last decade, it's looking strong, talking a big game, and then running up and laying on their backs before their fat naked Emperor begging for their bellies to be scratched. It's gotten so overt and embarrassing to see I can't even stand to watch any C-SPAN anymore when they're covering a cabinet meeting since it's just one long Trump blow job with different cabinet members stepping in when one of the other mouths gets tired.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  bugsy @4.1.7    5 months ago
Here are the 14 known (as of now) scandalous things Platner has done:

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That's hilarious. You prove my point even before my reply.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @4.1.7    5 months ago

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.8    5 months ago
It's because I have a fairly decent bullshit detector 

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TᵢG
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4.1.12  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @4.1.7    5 months ago

So if you consider that bad (and I most certainly do), surely you would not support a president who:

  • tried to steal the 2020 election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement
  • surrounded himself with incompetent sycophants
  • tried to keep classified documents and obstructed their safe return for months
  • engaged in true lawfare, blatantly so, directing the AG (never should be done) to go after select political opponents (e.g. Comey, James, Cook, ...)
  • coerced private businesses (e.g. Perkins Coie LLP) and universities (e.g. Harvard) with threats of denying federal business opportunities/funding
  • overstepped authority and effectively killed USAID, which was congressionally approved, and abruptly, irresponsibly cut life-critical funding worldwide
  • removed watch dogs (e.g. inspectors general, FTC commissioner Rebecca Slaughter,...) and fired DoJ attorneys, et.al. who worked on his indictments
  • unilaterally destroyed the East Wing
  • accepts outrageously expensive gifts such as the Qatar jet (which will now cost at least $400 million in taxpayer dollars to prepare)
  • renamed the Kennedy center to arrogantly put his own name as top billing
  • abused the use of the National guard to deploy to cities as a political show
  • more than doubled ICE personnel with demonstrably poorly vetted, poorly trained individuals, and then unleashed them en masse into communities
  • abuse of tariff power which pointlessly damaged USA reputation worldwide and triggered trading partners to strategically establish trade alternatives other than the USA
  • pullback from WHO, UN, UNFCCC, etc. reducing the USA's international leadership
  • anti climate change initiatives (as if trying to further damage the environment)
  • destroyed the East Wing and wants taxpayers to foot $1 billion to provide the necessary security infrastructure his ballroom
  • blatant attempt to steal the 2026 midterms by coercing states to gerrymander for political (not census) reasons
  • failed miserably on his campaign promise to lower prices
  • failed miserably on his campaign promise to end the Ukraine war
  • is a national embarrassment given he is the voice, face, and hand of the USA, yet publicly trolls our allies (in particular, Canada) and whines about not being awarded the Peace Prize and then vindictively threatens not to be motivated for peace
  • has substantially increased both deficit spending and the national debt (in direct opposition of his promises)
  • has created a $1.776 billion slush fund using taxpayer dollars to pay his supporters after commuting the sentences of his mob that violently breached the Capitol to disrupt a session of Congress
  • has created an IRS invulnerability for himself, his sons, and his businesses
  • used DoJ to vindictively go after E. Jean Carroll because she won a lawsuit against him

And I left out the 'grab em by the pussy', attacks on the Pope, and similar crap from this morally depraved human being.   

Compare the lists.   How is it that you continue to support Trump for PotUS?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.13  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.11    5 months ago

That's one big emote. I've noticed they get bigger whenever anyone hits close to the mark as if the size will somehow distract from the truth. Not sure if it worked out for you yet but we'll likely be able to tell by the 'likes'.

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Sean Treacy
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4.1.14  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1    5 months ago

All this "But Trump" to support a NAzi.

After spending ten years hysterically denouncing Trump's character your are now reduced to carrying water for a Nazi. I'm genuinely  curious, how does that make you feel? Proud? Is there any line Platner or any another Trump hater could cross that would make you say "I can't defend that.?"   A lying Nazi who spreads anti-semitic conspiracy theories and  who joined the army because he just wanted to kill people is fine. Do progressives have a line anymore other than, like Fetterman, someone wants Israel to exist and is therefore a traitor to your movement?   

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.14    5 months ago

why do you insist on holding a Senate candidate to the same standard as the president who has been elected twice? 

What is wrong with the people who voted for Trump, 3 times, after it was known he was a crook, pathological liar, bigot, con man and moron?  That question is much more interesting than anything connected to a Senate candidate in Maine. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.16  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.9    5 months ago
You prove my point even before my reply.

Maybe if you made a coherent point, your post would be regarded, but.....

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.17  bugsy  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.10    5 months ago

They will never be able to call any conservative a nazi ever again because they have an actual nazi they are supporting in their midst.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.18  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.15    5 months ago
hy do you insist on holding a Senate candidate to the same standard as the president who has been elected twice?

I'm not.  Progressives are. Trump is now their moral compass. I have no idea how, believing what you believe about Trump, that you would ever cite him to justify someone's behavior. I know I never defend someone by citing Stalin as  the benchmark of acceptable behavior. 

When I say it's wrong to have an Nazi tattoo, progressives immediately try to justify it by pointing to Trump. They can't simply say a guy who voluntarily inked himself with an SS tattoo honoring the guards of death camps is unfit for office. Read through these responses.  Nothing but rationalizing support for a Nazi worshipper. 

Even 5 years ago, did you think you'd be rationalizing supporting a guy with a straight up Nazi tattoo? 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.19  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.14    5 months ago
All this "But Trump" to support a NAzi.

Do you REALLY believe Platner is a Nazi? Really? Where's his Nazi manifesto? If he had been spouting rightwing Nazi rhetoric and had an actual track record of attacking Jews I might be inclined to believe you. Instead, all you've got is a military tattoo and a whole bunch or supposition, accusation and unfounded claims from rightwing media desperately trying to cling to their Senate seats. I don't trust any of the bullshit that's been spewing from rightwing conservatives' mouths and frankly I hope they brush their teeth soon because the stench is nauseating. So, you can take your platter of Platner bullshit attacks and gorge upon it yourself, no one else has an appetite for such fecal feasts.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.13    5 months ago

Uh huh

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.21  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  bugsy @4.1.17    5 months ago
They will never be able to call any conservative a nazi ever again because they have an actual nazi they are supporting in their midst.

I will continue to call out those on the right for their obvious rightwing Nazi bent and their debased worship of their dear Leader who is very much modeled after early populist Hitler. Just because a bunch of losers think they "caught a nazi" on the other side just means the losers are dumber than we thought. I actually feel a little sorry for these fucking stupid Trump defenders, it's truly sad to watch how fucked in the head they are.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.22  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.18    5 months ago

Obviously "but trump" has no limits and knows no bounds.

Pathetic 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.23  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.21    5 months ago

And rational people will continue to ignore the rants

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.24  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.18    5 months ago

Your comment is delusional. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.25  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.23    5 months ago
And rational people will continue to ignore the rants

So that explains why rightwing conservatives can't help but respond to anything they see as a 'rant' against their dear Leader. Thank you for the insight.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.26  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.18    5 months ago
I know I never defend someone by citing Stalin as the benchmark of acceptable behavior. 

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Oh, that is rich. Or was that supposed to be serious?

All I've heard for years in defense of Trump are non-stop what-about-ism's. Rightwing conservatives have been pulling out Clinton (either one) Obama, Biden, Kamala and any Democrat whose ever been caught even looking like they did something wrong like Senator Al Franken, for YEARS and claiming they're "benchmarks" for democrats. To try and pretend that you guys don't is just hilariously precious.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.27  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.26    5 months ago

Just more increasingly desperate attempts to rationalize supporting a guy with an SS tattoo to be a senator.  A senator, no less.  It’s like selling your soul for a piece of pizza. 

All the “but trumps” and deflections to republicans  in the world  won’t change that. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.28  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.25    5 months ago

Interesting that you exclude democrats from being rational. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.29  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.27    5 months ago
Just more increasingly desperate attempts to rationalize supporting a guy with an SS tattoo to be a senator.

I don't support this guy, I don't live in Maine and think Democrats there shot themselves in the foot here for no reason. This guy sounds like a dipshit loser though much of that noise is coming from desperate conservative losers so it's hard to tell exactly who he really is, but either way this guy can go eat shit for all I care. Are you willing to admit as much about Trump? Are you willing to admit his flaws and tell him to go eat shit? Any honesty out there in Trump land? Anything? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.30  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.29    5 months ago
Any honesty out there in Trump land? Anything? 

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bugsy
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4.1.31  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.21    5 months ago
I will continue to call out those on the right for their obvious rightwing Nazi ben

You mean "what I fantasize is Nazi bent". 

We we are seeing in real time is you(collective you) leftists supporting an ACTUAL NAZI. 

Even one of the leftists "economists" are calling for the "deMAGAfacation" of the country, much like the "denazification" of Germany. 

And one of the left's favorite democrat strategist is calling for the right to have their heads shaved, put in pajamas and paraded down the road to be spat on by onlookers, exactly how Jews were treated by Nazis in WWII (That is World War 2, not World war 11).

Sounds a lot like most on the left are perfectly ok with doing nazi things while accusing others of being nazis.

This is the mantra of the left. Accuse others of what you are doing. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    5 months ago
the only thing they don't like about Trump is the R after his name. 

Well, that and he beat two of their queens..... Hillary and the DEI VP

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @4.2    5 months ago
Hillary

That was a sin never to be forgiven even though she beat herself.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.2.2  devangelical  replied to  bugsy @4.2    5 months ago
he beat two of their queens

trump has never won an elected office running against a male ...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  devangelical @4.2.2    5 months ago
trump has never won an elected office running against a male ...

hmmm, so he can only beat women.  Pretty misogynistic comment.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.4  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @4.2.2    5 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.3    5 months ago
Pretty misogynistic comment.

Are you surprised?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @4.2.2    5 months ago
trump has never won an elected office running against a male ...

And whose fault is that?  Apparently the democrats didn't think they had a male worth running.  And STILL lost the elections.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.2.7  devangelical  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.3    5 months ago
Pretty misogynistic comment.

... maybe it seems that way from the perspective of those that defend the activities of a convicted felon and likely child molester.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  devangelical @4.2.7    5 months ago

Nope.  It is just a run of the mill misogynistic comment

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.2.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.8    5 months ago
It is just a run of the mill misogynistic comment

Riiiiight, just like "86 47" was a call to assassinate the President.

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Right Down the Center
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4.2.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.2.9    5 months ago

Can't refute the comments so deflect away

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.2.11  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.10    5 months ago
Can't refute the comments so deflect away

Refute what? Someone pointing out that Donald has only ever beat women in the three elections he participated in? How is that fucking "misogynistic"? I suppose one could view it as commentary on the obvious misogyny of many American voters, but the comment itself isn't misogynistic. Are millions of American voters misogynistic? Yes. About 20% have indicated they " would not back a qualified female candidate for president".

Nearly one in five voters said they or someone they are close to would not elect a woman presidential candidate. That includes one-quarter of women under 50 and 20 percent of men under 50, who said they would not back a qualified female candidate for president, while 13 percent of men and women over 50 said they wouldn’t be open to supporting a woman for president. Americans remain wary of electing a female president, new poll reveals - POLITICO

Now when it comes to Democrats, 90% want to see a female President in their lifetime, so it would seem only about 10% are misogynistic voters.

For each policy asked about, Democrats are more likely than Republicans to say that a woman president would do a lot or somewhat better than a man. The difference is widest when it comes to gun policy .   Democrats are about three and a half times more likely than Republicans to say a woman president would do better in this area (44% vs. 12%) . Views of a woman president compared with a man | Pew Research Center

But I get that the misogynists themselves would desperately try to dodge the question or deflect by calling any ridicule of their moronic claim a deflection.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.2.11    5 months ago

With all due respect 

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Dismayed Patriot
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4.2.13  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.12    5 months ago

It's okay. I didn't expect any sort of rational cogent reply or even an explanation of why the original comment was somehow 'misogynistic'. That would require at least one person on the other side of this debate with their head fully extricated from their dear leader's rectum, at least for a few moments. As it is, the only responses seem to be regurgitated Trumpisms out of the bottom half of their face which is clearly the only part free of Trumps balloon knot. They're like a Pez dispenser with the top half of their head squeezed up Trumps ass.

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Right Down the Center
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4.2.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.2.13    5 months ago

Sorry to disappoint.  I guess I have to take a comment seriously in order to respond seriously.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5  Hal A. Lujah    5 months ago

But the guy who kept a copy of Mein Kampf on his nightstand is fit to be president.  Lol, until you all can come to terms with the disaster you put in the WH nobody should listen to a word of your garbage opinions.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5    5 months ago
he guy who kept a copy of Mein Kampf on hi

But But...the nazi I support is okay because I made up a claim about Trump..

I get it. Trump is your moral compass. The really sad part is using fake stories about Trump as your moral compass. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1    5 months ago

Such militant defense for Donald Trump!  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5.1.1    5 months ago
Such militant defense for Donald Trump!

The midterms are coming and the real Nazi's are scared their party might lose power and their administration might start to sink as more and more of their criminal, unconstitutional and un-American actions get exposed. These are the last throes of a defeated party in complete full-blown denial of reality. Their President sits at 37% approval with a full 48%, nearly HALF "strongly disapprove of Trump’s job performance". These dipshits aren't confident, they're screaming about Platner because they're fucking scared shitless. But for the majority of Americans, we get to sit back and smile as we watch the merciless political annihilation of this criminal President and the rest of his worthless rightwing crime family.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.2    5 months ago

gee, I wonder what pete hegseth's body tattoos looked like before he had them blacked out ...

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.4  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @5.1.3    5 months ago
gee, I wonder what pete hegseth's body tattoos looked like before he had them blacked out ...

I think I will follow the leftist wing example on this...

I don't care

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  devangelical @5.1.3    5 months ago

Interesting thing to wonder about.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.2    5 months ago

Yes, the TDS ridden will continue to shirk their real purpose serving their constituents and tilt at that same old windmill.    Wasting (even more) countless tax dollars along the way that would be much better used doing the people’s business.   Outstanding job dimbulbs, just outstanding.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6  seeder  Sean Treacy    5 months ago

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Sean Treacy
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6.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    5 months ago

Looks like a lot of progressives are going to be breaking into graham plantner’s  house in the near future. 

 
 

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