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The YouTube algorithm recently decided to introduce me to this channel. It's a treasure trove of MAGA wisdom, so I thought I'd share.
The link is to a guy named Parker, specifically his 'shorts' (YouTube's TikTok equivalent).
Browse through these shorts (very short video clips) to see just how low the Trump-supporting bar can go. It's astonishing.
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It's like an exposé on planet retard. Please link to your favorite shorts in the comments.
Here's one to get the ball rolling...
And another...
"Kamala is an extreme socialist."
Q – Can you define socialism?
A – No.
Classic right winger.
And another.
Durrr.....
And another...
Ultimate tard zone...
that was funny. I love when the MAGA get their noses punched when they're stupid
Yet it does not register with them. They refuse to recognize wrongdoing and failure with Trump. It is cultish.
Since that is a constant state for many of them, you must get entertained frequently.
It's beyond cultish, it's to the point where we're going to start rating cults by how Trumpish they are.
Until my spouse starts spouting MAGA nonsense. Then I just want to get in my car and run away
Worse than Jim Jones? David Koresh? Marshall Applewhite?
Sadly, I think there are MANY more MAGAites that would drink that Kool-Aid today if Trump told them to than there were gullible followers in Guyana.
I think you're right. They may have a suicidal mission but I do not wish to be dragged along
A tariff is not a tax, because it has more letters in it, therefore I am happy to pay more for everything because of tariffs as long as my taxes don’t go up. Typical maga mentality.
I had a similar engagement with a city government representative once when I received a bill for not paying a new fee for automobile owners. I said I never received this bill in the first place. She said they weren’t mailed out because it was advertised in the local paper, and kept trying to correct me when I referred to it as a tax, saying it was a “fee”. Bitch I don’t care what you are calling it, it’s a mandatory bill that I have to pay to government, and now I have to pay double because you thought that telling the public about it through an ad in a local paper that nobody reads was the proper way to let everyone know they owe the local government more money.
alert some local yokel media trouble shooter to make the scam public and watch the gov't back down quickly ...
I have to admit that there really ARE times when I wish I could open YouTube.
These are good. This young man is going places with his intelligence
A series of irrational ' arguments ' from Trump supporters.
Is this supposed to be the liberal Charlie Kirk?
Do you disagree with any of his answers?
Is this supposed to be the liberal Charlie Kirk?
he can't answer direct questions ...
Of course I can, when I take the question seriously. It also depends on who is asking the question and if it is worth my 15 seconds to respond.
Interesting you have no issue with my probative question being ignored.
I'm familiar with most of the deflective spam maga uses to avoid answering direct questions.
Some folks on the left that do it constantly will not be happy with you calling them deflective spam maga.
Short comparison — Parker Short vs. Charlie Kirk
Background
Parker Short: Young Democratic organizer and social-media figure from Georgia; former president of the Young Democrats of Georgia; University of Michigan public‑policy graduate; active in state/local organizing and voter mobilization.
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1 Charlie Kirk: Conservative activist and media entrepreneur; co‑founder and longtime leader of Turning Point USA; national conservative commentator, podcaster, and organizer focused on mobilizing young conservatives.
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2 Political alignment & goals
Short: Democratic, progressive-leaning; emphasizes local organizing, voter turnout, and policy issues affecting Georgia (Medicaid, transportation, education). Uses viral social media to drive grassroots engagement.
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Kirk: Republican/conservative; promotes free-market policies, cultural conservatism, and pro‑Trump positions; built national infrastructure for youth conservative activism (TPUSA, Turning Point Action).
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3 Style & audience
Short: Relatable, upbeat social-media style aimed at motivating volunteers and younger/progressive audiences; focuses on persuasion and local campaigning.
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Kirk: Combative, media-savvy debating and provocation designed to energize conservative youth, fundraise, and build national brand and institutions.
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1 Controversies & criticism
Short: Best known for a viral rally video and public clashes with conservative figures; criticism is mostly partisan and about messaging rather than institutional practices.
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Kirk: Repeated controversies — allegations of misinformation (election and COVID), inflammatory statements on race/religion, financial transparency questions around TPUSA, and targeted watchlists for academics; widely criticized by journalists and academics.
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2 Scale & impact
Short: Rising regional/national profile as an influencer and organizer; primary impact so far is state-level organizing and social-media-driven volunteer recruitment.
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Kirk: National footprint — TPUSA chapters on thousands of campuses, major media reach (podcasts, social platforms), significant fundraising and political influence within the conservative movement.
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1 Quick takeaway
Parker Short: Young Democratic organizer leveraging viral content to boost grassroots turnout and local policy advocacy.
atlantamagazine.com
Charlie Kirk: Established conservative organizer and media personality who built national youth infrastructure and a polarizing public profile.
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- Credit: GPT 5 (mini) (AI)
As for me, I had not heard of or "trafficked" with either of these young men at their political beginning or up to the point where either one became "controversial," "viral," or nationally known.
According to "Alexa Plus" - Both Kirk and "Short" (not sure if that is his real last name) are COUNTERPARTS.
Here are two separate (probably equal and comparative interactions by Short and Kirk (each working in his own space):
Parker Short clip.
Charlie Kirk clip.
Note: Unfortunate (for me, at least), the two videos above do not just "appear" as the seeder's youtube videos do. To be clear, the links are to authenicated YOUTUBE!
Interesting. Almost seems except for the death part short wants to be a Charlie Kirk type influencer using the latest technology.
Thanks for the info
It is interesting, because to me, I think Ben Shapiro as often or more that Kirk. That said, I like people that can think fast>.>>, and with sound reasoning. I have not heard enough of this Parker "Short" guy (yet) to decide. . . I used to punch holes in what I saw as 'hasty' logic points made by Kirk and Shapiro.
Okay, so. . . what is your opinion of Parker "Short's" reasoning with conservatives. Granted, these are minimalist presentations on display.
Good question
He thinks quick on his feet but is not 100% accurate IMO. You never get to hear the counterpoint so you don't know what else was said. My other thought is everyone is entitled to their opinion even though I do not really agree with them (from the little that is there).
Upon further reflection I wonder how many of these calls are real. I wonder how many conservatives have heard of him much less call into his show (if that is what it is).
Upon more reflection I realized I had to cut the grass so I stopped reflecting and haven't thought about him since.
It is not our 'role' as viewers to question the validity of a presentation. . . unless we have factual knowledge or reason to suspect it is is invalid or "cheating."
I have attempted to find the long version of this actual debate (from which "Shorts" are derived), and I have had mixed results. Here is a link to full-length videos of this debater Parker "Short."
(The seeder has graciously asked up to "pick one" or several "Parker Short" -shorts or videos. . . and continue the discussion. . . with that understanding I invite you to do so and I will "engage" you on it with an honest assessment and opinion of what I think.
So, the lawn. . . life. . . the real world . . .kicked in. . . I know about that too!
I have to disagree with you here. With all the crap on the "news" and internet in general I believe it is totally the consumers "role" to to determine the validity of anything they see or read if they are interested in the subject.
That is what I wrote to the punctuation-period. Do you disagree with it now?
I have to ask. . . in your life experience. . . do you routinely verify everything spoken to you as though it is 'new' to you and it is mandatory to check every word uttered for authenticity? It would be a long, arduous, activity that most humans and commenters have found impractical. That is, I give writers the benefit of the doubt. . . until the 'condition' mentioned in my quote above materializes. You should too, in my opinion.
As people do not argue with facts (truth) as it can be a gross waste of time since truth will always declare itself victor.
Just things on "news" or internet. Like news talkers for example. Alot of things are said, much is not to be believed.
And much is or CAN be believed if we allow for people being true to themselves instead of pushing ideology onto them as judgement. Moreover, no it is not possible to individually verify every aspect or 'condition' in this life. . .so we rely on each other's experiences to INFORM us. . .such as when we learn about "blooms' in the field or wilderness and pass it on to the next person and generation. . .leading to why we write and DISCUSS positions, stances, and policies in the first place.
IMO it is important in any dialogue to try and not push your opinions as facts. It only makes people not want to discuss anything with you. Especially if you constantly tell people their comments are dishonest, stupid or wrong.
Yes, that is where source of the information becomes key. It is easy to find information that will reinforce what you want. The important thing is to listen to others with an open mind, something that seems to be missing
I find it funny watching my children pass on my "words of wisdom" to their children and then catch themselves doing it.
Discussion is give and take, not just once side telling the other side why they are wrong and then getting pissy when you don't roll over. That is just a waste of time. I have found you learn more listening than talking. That seems to be a lost art in many places.
Exactly. Like how it is a fact that Donald Trump is a convicted felon vs the opinion of some conservatives that the trial was somehow unfair or flawed. It is a fact that Donald Trump was found liable for the sexual assault and defamation of E. Jean Carroll while it's the opinion of some Trump sycophants that he's just a poor innocent victim. It is a fact that Donald Trump's personal charity was shut down and fined $2M for fraud and it is the opinion of some trying to curry favor with Trump that he should be able to do whatever he wants with his charity's funds. It is a fact that Donald Trump is an adulterer and said on tape of women he finds attractive he likes to " Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything" and its some of his subservient apparently morally flexible followers' opinion that he's been sent by their God to bring Christian morality back to America.
There are just so many facts about Donald Trump that some choose to ignore in favor of their own self-serving opinions, it's hard to pin them down on any one fact. So far, when they run into a fact they can't refute, they swerve in with deflection to something some random fringe unimportant Democrat did as if that's a defense of what the current President is doing. It's apparently their opinion that as long as a Democrat did anything even close to what Trump is doing, then it's okay to just pardon violent criminals who are now committing new crimes all because their guy wanted to reward his co-conspirators.
Here's some facts that I'm curious as to what a conservative's opinion might be:
Okay. So now that THAT is settled. . . let's move on. And yes, I will consider your facts (and opinion) while holding expectations that you will give mine equal time. . . . How about that?!!
Of course
Can we do this now?
... right on cue.
I know. I rarely get my questions answered and get a deflection instead.
Do you agree that the above is most likely cherry picked videos to make a point?
Your question about liberal Charlie Kirk was a sarcastic quip. Not a serious question. And who do you think could answer such a question?
You of course refuse to offer a specific comment on the seed content.
To get an answer, ask a serious question.
Actually it was. Lets try another.
Do you agree that the above is most likely cherry picked videos to make a point?
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You seriously need to ask people on a social media site if this individual is the new Charlie Kirk? What on Earth would lead you to think he is anywhere near as well known as Kirk was? That he is anywhere near doing what Kirk was doing (engaging in international public debates worldwide, running a huge organization, etc.)?
Where do you get the idea that this guy, who you just learned about from this seed, would be the ONE who would be the liberal counterpart to Kirk?
Your question, if serious, is stupid. I gave you the benefit of the doubt in viewing it as a sarcastic quip.
And of course the videos were selected to make a point. Because obviously, anytime someone wants to make a point, they cannot include every single piece of content from their sources. You are implying that this was a dishonest selection.
So if you think the points made in these videos are wrong or the selection was dishonest, make an argument.
If you cannot make an argument, then you are just spewing bullshit; just trolling.
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[✘] Kirk did all his debating in the open and in person. Not hiding behind a computer.
Thanks for not dodging the question and answering it with your opinion. I agree with your assessment and don't really take this guy seriously.
Just another teen looking for fame and funds.
Wow - and all the bashing of Kirk - a man killed for voicing his views whether they be right or wrong.
Great doxing.
The sad thing is he will get them and be celebrated as the guy that owns MAGA
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that worked out well for him, in a solid red state ...
It's too bad they had to let left wing nut cases in the state or Charlie would be alive.
gee, it's too bad the nazi and thumper factions of maga terrorists can't get along and charlie got blown away ...
Well that was just brilliant
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It is all about hatred to many leftists.
If they did not have hatred for Trump or his supporters, they would have no other life
More accurately, it is all about hatred of what you and others conceive as 'leftists'.
You defend an abysmal human being, an incompetent, vindictive psychopath as PotUS and generally deflect to criticize 'leftists'.
We are dealing with, demonstrably, the worst PotUS in our lifetimes, an individual who arguably holds more power and influence than anyone else in the world and is using it for self-aggrandizement, enrichment, and revenge, yet you constantly try to change the topic to 'leftists'.
Do you seriously think anyone on this forum is persuaded by the feeble, dishonest deflection tactic in your comments?
They do seem to be all consumed with them. Most conservatives seem to be "live and let live" and "you are welcome to your opinion even though I do not agree". It seems too many leftists think "live and think like I do or you are an ignorant Nazi".
Pathetic
There is a profound difference between:
and
The former are subjective ideological / political differences.
The latter is simply dealing with reality. And I can provide, yet again, a list of facts supporting why Trump is unfit for office.
No thanks
6 10 split i guess
I picked it once. Only once.
Only one knows,
only ones' nose
The heck MAGA supporters say. There was liberals throughout the ages. . .and will be liberals (I venture) afterwards. Liberals want to be free of oppression/s. . .just like you. . . so, how can we accomplish this? Even if only on Newtalkers?
What cause do you have to think that "most conservatives" believe in live and let live. . . I can demonstrate for you from the beginning of this country where conservatives have been the bane of the existence of others and liberals in this country. . . simply because they are not like "most" conservatives.
First, what example do you present of conservatives allowing for "live and let live" in a real sense for liberals. Yes, I know, from a conservative perspective life is 'grand' when lived "the conservative way" - and yet. . . liberals are distinctly not conservatives and they have rights too.
That's the funniest bullshit I've read in a while.
More Republican lawmakers call on SCOTUS to reconsider gay marriage ruling - ABC News
Supreme Court lets states ‘openly discriminate against Black voters,’ Democrats, voting advocates say - Democracy Docket
Rightwing groups across US push new bans to limit ‘obscene’ books in libraries | Republicans | The Guardian
Conservative states focus on banning abortion pills | AP News
It seems more like the ignorant Nazi's are demanding everyone live like they do, but the only ones who can't see it clearly are those that have their heads currently occupied.
With rightwing conservative's always taking this position, how are we ever going to see eye to eye?
Gemini
Often times conservatives believe in live and let live but don't shove how you live or what you believe down my throat. Of course there are some conservatives that believe like many liberals (my way or the highway) but they are in the minority.
Talk about an obscured view. I even linked examples of where conservatives are definitely NOT letting other Americans "live and let live" and all you can do is try to deflect with a giant cartoon response that basically says "Nuh Uh! You're blind! Not us!". What a masterful defense. /s
Anyone can find examples of anything if they look hard enough.
I have yet to find even a shred of honesty or objectivity from Trump supporters.
I can't imagine why not: S/
First, I will commend your use of "Gemini" (AI) . . . it is a vital tool in the hands of those choosing to use it.
Second, I get the entire "individual freedom" - thing. Interestingly, I wish to query (deepen discussion) you and others if they wish to comment : What are "God-given" liberties-beyond aspirational rhetoric—to the nation as a whole? When God operates for many as a foundational and ideological way of life without tangibility (anything we can materially question/answer). I even as this as a "believer." Why? Because we need to confront our beliefs head-on and let our ideology survive 'contact' or 'crash and burn' where needed.
Third, I agree that in a normal 'relationship' between different ethnic and so-called 'racial' groups all under the umbrella of one nation. . . all people should be treated the same across the board. However, it is definitely the case that our federal and state systems are NOT FLAWLESS in their interpretations and treatments of the SAME reading and execution of the rule of law. Merit can be given to those states that STRIVE internally with their "local" consciences to do and get right with its inhabits and citizen population. . . however, even conservatives think that the Federal government should reach out and change what is severely (or gravely) misaligned in any given state or group of states. . .that causes harm within the larger 'body' of the State (nation). This is why special consideration/s, intended to mend and repair 'holes' and 'tears' in our community as a whole is not only wise it is necessary.
Finally, we all ought to love communities that work. I remember the by-gone (Sixties) years of Lester Maddox (former separatist and governor of Georgia) who thought it 'proper' to say that citizens of this country ought to have power over individual freedom of association. That is, individuals ought to be able to open businesses and EXCLUDE certain groups of people outside of public participation (no Indians/Blacks/Chinese etceteras).
This type of "freedom" fell short at the Supreme Court, where Governor Maddox, who sued for it in his own business practice, was told he could not just "associate" in an open-business setting with his 'chosen' clientele - public means all people of good will and buying practices and power.
Therefore, from the above you can get a glimpse of what theory (aspiration) strives to accomplish in rather stubborn people, and the practical fight that citizens face to change hearts and minds generationally and politically.
1. It is useful if it is remembered it is just a tool and can be somewhat manipulated based on how the question is worded. Sort of like questions in a poll designed to get a certain response.
2. Life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is aa good place to start. It is people, not God that gets in the way.
3. I don't disagree in theory but I have a problem when fixing a problem causes another one. Seems like a pendulum just going back and forth and getting nowhere.
4. While I agree things need to get better for everyone I will end with the Beatles "Its getting better all the time"
I will remind you that a tool when used for its proper purposes, can give trusted results. Trust can be built.
Now then, at 4.3.30, you used Gemini AI to make a point about conservativism and it 'answered' you philosophically (listing a conservative perspective). A tip if I may suggest it: When posting from any AI where a question is asked - list the question so people can get a real sense of why AI takes the 'path' to answer as it does.
I try to do this myself when I use AI, and am 'listening' to myself as I write this to continue to doing so with supplying both "Q and A" (where I may have slipped and left it off recently).
Also, as I pointed out to you in my reply at 4.3.38, the other (or opposing side) has a view too. In my case as a liberal, I am fully invested in the understanding that I can not live out conservative ideology that makes no space for my political existence philosophically or in actuality. I, an actual living person, have feelings same as other living people—including conservatives. Now then, conservatives have a conservative worldview and I have a worldview too. In the United States where with aspirations both sides seek EQUALITY. . . true peace can only be acquired in the middle ground between opposers! That is, you will not 'ground' me in extreme conservativism nor do I wish to 'ground' you in extreme liberalism.
In this manner, the 'neutral' ground between two worldviews and political 'sides' - is its singular "Happy middle." I am willing and intend to meet you in this 'endeavor' to find and cherish "the middle ground" —and let frank, honest, and benefit of doubt (where it can exist) discussion occur!
Here is to going forward. Mind you, this won't be easy, because we obviously have been at this a long time now - and here is to "it's getting better all the time" upcoming!
I want to be able to trust you are being straight and honest will me. . .so, to that end, I will listen to you and give an honest reply. . .even when it differs from what you expect or can accept. . . facts, truth, and genuineness don't change no matter the 'speaker.'
Let's try to make our time passing here "better" and not just another 'smear' on the floor of our separate lives—or 'sport'!
Here's to counting on you!
Gemini AI when queried displayed "God given liberties (see 4.3.30) in answer which led to me asking what are those-exactly. We have not seen 'hide or hair' of God so I have to ask the purveyors of such liberties to explain them to the best of their abilities. . .so we can 'test,' and come to conclusion regarding 'them.'
What I see is humans parsing reality/realities looking for the means to come out on top of a class of any number of Others. It's been a 'lifetime' observation and practice for me living through the mal-contentments of those that for some reason can not accept my humanity.
For example, I was 'pleased' to see change that allowed Blacks to become citizens of this country; I was 'distressed' to learn that the 'reconstruction era' was ended in our country under the false pretense of "better times" for all—actually it turns out it was subterfuge. Games were (shamefully) played against Blacks that kept them 'strapped' in multiple ways for another century. . . and sadly not even 100 years satiated the appetites of those that strived to keep Blacks out of their proper place as equals in this society.
"God given rights" gave the United States a Bible that allowed slavery to flourish in the colonies. . . it was wrong to use the Bible to bring in slavery to the United States permissible under federal law. Why? Many would argue, because it was slavery, and of itself it is bad. That is not my argument, nevertheless!
My point is the Bible was given a 'bad rap' about U.S. supported slavery as a "God-given right" to black human property ownership. . . because a White majority (conservatives and Christianity) INTENTIONALLY turned one group, or race, into its slaves. Whereas, in the Bible, whites (and even native Jews) along with any /others were slaves in the Bible as well as it respective white majority countries.
Thus, denying life, liberties, and pursuit(s) of happiness to Blacks in the country. . . while feeling 'superior' in doing so! So much for what 'alternative' and 'secondary' truths can do for and to us when we are not wise and are prone to accept ignorance.
Agree, but don't trust blindly
Good point. In the case I mentioned the question I asked was a very generic "What are God given rights?" so I am not sure it gave me the conservative perspective.
I agree middle ground is important but respect for opposing views is just as important IMO Also I have no use for either extreme or any politician that talks about a mandate when they barely win an election. That often means they intend to head to the far side.
I do consider myself a centrist libertarian (if there is such a thing). I also still believe most of Americans reside in the center, they are just silent when the extremes try and take over the party.
It might be easier than you think.
I will as I believe you will.
No problem here
You as well.
to be honest the whole idea of God given liberties is fuzzy. People have been hiding behind them any time they want to do something. Just like politicians today talking about what Americans want. As long as God given rights are defined by man there is a fundamental flaw as to what they actually are.
IMO that is just hiding behind God to do what you want. Respect for differences is more important to me that trying to define God given rights. That is why the answer of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is warm and fuzzy but I am not so sure it has Gods stamp of approval. If you dig a little deeper into Gemini it states:
The Philosophy Behind the Concept
Agree. Change is more difficult for some so it is no surprise that some try to sabotage it. That is not an excuse but it does show that people are more willing to change on their own without the government shoving things down their throat. Of course in many peoples eyes(me included in many cases) that would take too long. It is similar to any change I have had to implement in the business world. It was always better to show how the change is better for the people involved than just telling them what the change is. It takes more time and effort but it is always worth it IMO.
The bible can be interpreted in many different ways by people with an agenda. Also remember slavery was not invented here using the Bible as a source of approval. It may have used the Bible as justification here but slavery has been done through the ages and not always based on race.
IMO there is no justification for the struggles some have gone through. Life is tough enough without added bullshit. I think one of the issues is many people believe there has to be a loser to have a winner.
The actual concern here is change is not coming (at all). Recently I was talking to someone about the South, Mississippi to be exact, and in was instructive to learn that the state isn't changing its position in the status of states, because apparently it is passing on its ideology to each succeeding generation of Mississippians. . .such that the status quo is not broken.
What does that say about people on the 'down-size' of Mississippi's lack of positive change? It speaks 'volumes.' For instance: Shall Mississippi continue to rank 48 in the ranking of states. . . for 2050, 2099, 'beyond'? (A rhetorical question.)
So much for how some are using "more time and effort!"
Unfortunately I can't speak specifically to Mississippi. I have never been there and don't keep up with it.
Do you feel Mississippi is a good example of the country as a whole?
No, Mississippi is not a good example of the country as a whole. As I am being told, large swaths of Mississippi resembles 'third world countries'—today. Interestingly, I am being told that some earlier built up areas are 'falling' and failing from their 'older' states.
Anyway, the point being "Change is more difficult for some" is being practiced by some states as change that never comes. The attitudes that are 'tanking' that state are persistent at 'rushing' headlong into the future as "third world." This should not be in this day and age - in this country.
I think you can agree. I will leave it up to you do so or not.
Mississippi has a higher per capita GDP than Great Britain and equal with Canada. It's educational progress has been described as a "miracle," and it's now above average after having been at the bottom of the country for decades.
This is not mere mis-interpretation. . it was deliberate using of a biblical warrant by the U.S. Churches (largely in the South) at the time in support of placing of Africans in this country under slavery/bondage (and a crueler form). It did not 'model' biblical slavery which did not have as a focus: One 'race' of people (Africans).
So yes, people did this to Africans in the past here in this country. And, as a country we that care should work to see that it does not return as a political policy of some kind.
I agree. And that is the larger issue: As citizens, we (all) do not have the time for these "majorly' petty political battles on the extremes. . . that drain life from the Middle. Time to leave the extremes and get on with betterment that includes all of us. . . as you stated, "life is tough enough." We are 'venting' truth for error in real-time. It has occurred to this great nation before-reflection on history 'stories' that point! We literally need to learn (or remember the lesson of the last 50 years plus) to be "better together" all over again.
Where does Mississippi rank amongst our 50 States?
Take a quick peek at your 4.3.30 comment again (regarding Gemini's response). The "AI overview" is tailored to the conservative overview. It's wording is right there in the comment.
So why are its citizens so poor?
Just because a State lowered its taxes a ton and axed environmental protections to attract large businesses doesn't mean the citizens are doing well.
The supposed "shitholes" according to rightwing conservatives are places like California.
So yes, it's super cheap to live in Mississippi, because few people choose to live where there are few jobs and few opportunities, and it's really expensive to live in CA because lots of people want to live here due to lots of jobs and opportunities all over the place.
And let's compare those GDP's...
Mississippi...
California...
I have no problem with anyone taking pride in their State no matter the numbers, but if you're going to consistently bash others while simultaneously sugar-coating your own you should expect others to point out the stark realities.
Mississippi Rankings
Interesting that I hear different things from different people. Just this past Friday liberal Bill Mahr was saying
Gemini overview
Maybe there is yet hope for them
Interesting. How would you word the question if you wanted a completely neutral or liberal point of view?
Agree. I don't see we are heading there as a country no matter how many times someone talks about Jim Crow 2.0
While I agree in theory in reality the middle is draining life from themselves by not standing up to the extremes. The apathy of someone else will take care of the extremes helps give voice to the extremes. Them and the media, who gives them voice for for ratings and clicks.
I am not the one to ask: You asked a question of AI and what is INTERESTING about that is what it CHOSE to give you in response. . .which you SHOWCASED here for discussion in 4.3.30. You are asking me for an explanation of what AI delivered to you in answer to your questioning. That said, you have piqued my 'interest' - without knowing your exact question (which I will presume went something along the lines of "live and let live"). . . I will ask AI a question in my own way and post the results—including the question asked).
I would like to have your 'understanding,' and I can not! People talking about "Jim Crow 2.0" are harkening back to the time(s) in U.S. history when with proverbial 'strokes of legislative pens' (and Governor signing) Virginia did the 'impossible' - it wrote innocent Africans wholesale in the colony into slavery. So excuse me, if I feel uneasy when caustic Whites start passing policies that do not take assessment of pass wrongs done by their predecessors.
Trust and verify!
Voting power is what changes things. . . and elections are every two years. . . so we wait for another set of outcomes.
However, when we talk about things we should be CLEAR as to what is right and wrong. . . . Why? Because lives, freedoms, liberties, are at risk when we do not make our positions/stances against racism in all its forms CLEAR.
In theory. In reality the use of the phrase is often an exaggeration or outright lie when some politicians don't like possible legislation.
Agree.
Actually I was asking if you had a suggestion as to how the question could be asked. I have come up empty
That is what I wrote in its proper context.
A question comes up based on your 4.3.61 statement: What is your opinion of Jim Crow?
Yes! I got distracted by my backyard (on Sunday)! I will get coffee and try to keep this comment "top of mind" when I return.
Actually I can partially do this now:
I agree that Jim Crow was a dark period in our history. What I don't agree with (in most cases) is the loose definition that the republicans are striving to relive it thought legislation. Calling legislation Jim Crow 2.0 is more of tactic to get folks to have an emotional response than an accurate depiction of reality.
The back yard is waaay more important. Especially if it includes a comfortable chair and an ice tea,
Upfront let me stipulate that I mean no offense to anyone when I use this example: Try telling that to Jews constantly under threat of anti-semitism. Kindred spirits, in many ways in their own sphere.
"Colorblindness" is a loose definitional term, when a people group can be so diluted (assimilation) as to no longer have any effectual power to affect the whole or impact the wishes of a majority.
That said another way: Unless you have "skin in the game" - you really have to leave space for empathy (put yourself in someone else shoes)!
Gemini AI:
The mantra "Live and let live" is a classic philosophy centered on tolerance, coexistence, and mutual respect.
At its core, it means you should live your life the way you choose, while allowing others to live theirs the way they choose—even if their lifestyles, choices, or beliefs are completely different from yours.
Here is a breakdown of what the mantra truly implies:
1. Acceptance over Judgment
It’s a reminder to mind your own business and avoid judging others for their personal choices. If someone’s behavior, religion, lifestyle, or opinions aren’t harming anyone, there is no reason to interfere or try to change them.
2. Peaceful Coexistence
The phrase acknowledges that the world is incredibly diverse. Instead of demanding conformity, it promotes a "shared space" mentality. You don't have to agree with or actively participate in how someone else lives; you just have to grant them the peace to do it.
3. Reciprocity
It is a two-way street. By "letting others live," you are also establishing the boundary that you expect the same freedom and respect returned to you.
4.3.69 is for you. I just noticed that 4.3.65 did not display the Gemini AI 'result'!
Comfortable chair, yes? "Sweet tea" -nope.
Agree. That is human nature and not easy to change.
At one time I was manager to about 300 people of diverse backgrounds. Every quarter we would pay for 8 or so of them to make food from their (home) land (not necessarily where they were born but where there ancestors came from). I have to say the impact on bringing people together was amazing. Learning about other cultures starting with food really worked and we got so many volunteers to cook we had to pick names out of a hat. Of course nothing was as good as my grandmothers lasagna.
There is a way too bridge the gaps, we just need to find them.
And that is the key. The internet and it anonymity have made it much easier to forget that.
I have done my DAMNEDEST for 10 'striving' years to be fair to everyone I address on the internet. Indeed, I have been thwarted by those using the internet to 'astro-turf' or literally money-tize themselves. . .and yet I 'serve' for the good of the Cause. Therefore, I am doing it right!
Slap fighting cleaned up @4.3. Play nicely, please.
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Dig, this young man is refreshing. I will have to invest more time to his arguments over time. . . Thank you!