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'Rape leaflets' for migrants enrage the UK — and prove Trump's point

  

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Via:  gregtx  •  3 months ago  •  60 comments

By:   Brendan O'Neill

'Rape leaflets' for migrants enrage the UK — and prove Trump's point
Trump has been rabidly demonized by the woke for saying Europe is being "ruined" by out-of-control immigration. But he was correct — and these "rape is bad" booklets prove it.

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Something extraordinary happened in Britain this week: Our leftist government acknowledged a truth it has long denied.

Our leaders admitted they are importing men who are so backward, so misogynistic and so out-of-whack with Western values that they don't understand that rape is wrong.

The woke fools who run this country conceded, after years of denial, that President Donald Trump and the rest of the supposedly "racist right" were correct all along: Europe is being overrun by brutish men from afar who think they can do whatever the hell they want to women.

Of course, the Home Office didn't say so outright.

The bureaucrats didn't proclaim: "We have endangered you, ladies, by flooding your towns with sexist thugs from overseas."

That would require a level of honesty and decency our ruling class simply does not possess.

But they let it slip, quietly conceding that they've thrown our once-civilized nation open to men so regressive that they don't even know it's evil and disgusting to force yourself upon a woman.

The sniveling admission came in a series of leaflets drawn up by the government for the benefit of so-called "asylum seekers."

Reading them genuinely made me nauseous.

One says: "In the UK, both people must say 'yes' to sex."

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"If you have sex with someone who does not want to," it continues, "this is called rape . . . a serious crime."

Will I be called "racist" if I say I don't want men in my country who don't know that forced sex is criminal and vile?

Another leaflet informs new arrivals to our country, "Child abuse is a serious crime in the UK."

It tells illegal immigrants they must not have "sexual contact with a child under 16" and it's a crime to "physically hurt a child" or "cut or harm a girl's genitals".

I don't feel reassured by these leaflets, but horrified.

I am sickened that anyone coming into my country can be so at odds with our values that they must be told not to rape kids or mutilate girls.

And I am disgusted that my government knows this.

It is fully aware that morally stunted foreigners are storming our green and pleasant land — so much so that it's producing leaflets essentially begging them: "Please don't rape our women."

Other leaflets inform illegals that you should not "make sexual comments to strangers" and must not hit, push or use "any physical violence" against your wife.

Let me speak frankly: If you don't know rape is wrong, I don't want you in my country.

If you don't know it's evil to sexually assault an infant, I want you out of Britain.

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Go ahead and slander me as "racist."

Right now, in this insane political moment, the safety of my female loved ones matters far more to me than my supposed moral standing.

The British government — slyly, dishonestly — now admits that it has recklessly put this country's women at grave risk.

And its pathetic "solution" is not to properly police the borders, but to hand out leaflets.

The notion that a piece of paper could keep women safe is insane.

The illegal immigrants who bother to read these advisories will laugh and throw them in the trash.

What we need is armed border guards to keep illegal immigrants away — not paper pleas for foreigners to keep their hands off our women and kids.

It's hard to describe how furious Brits are over these demented leaflets.

My WhatsApp groups have been buzzing with rage.

Pals and family members are horror-struck beyond belief that we've descended to the point at which the government has to beg illegal migrants not to fiddle with kids or beat women.

What's infuriating is that those of us who've been raising concerns about the influx of men from regressive cultures have been tarred as "far right" reactionaries.

We've been smeared as Islamophobes, too, because let's be honest — most of these men are coming from Muslim lands where women are treated as cattle and prepubescent girls are married off.

Trump has been rabidly demonized by the woke for saying Europe is being "ruined" by out-of-control immigration.

The BBC and other turbo-smug institutions whispered "Nazi" when his administration's National Security Strategy declared that Europe faces "civilizational erasure."

But Trump was correct.

These "rape is bad" booklets prove it.

We have imported men who hate women, hate gays, hate Jews.

Such irrational bigotry is violently at odds with Western civilization.

We don't want it.

And it's not "far right" to say so — it's just right.


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GregTx
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1  seeder  GregTx    3 months ago

Government PSA's aren't going to fix it...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @1    3 months ago

Neither will the whining from libertarian communists.

Brendan O’Neill is a British author, columnist, and political commentator known for his provocative commentary and leadership of the libertarian online magazine Spiked as editor from 2007 to 2021.

He began his career with the Revolutionary Communist Party’s journal Living Marxism and has written for outlets including The Spectator, The Australian, Daily Mail, and The Big Issue.

A self-described Marxist libertarian, he champions free speech, often defending controversial figures, and has taken strong stances on issues such as Brexit, environmentalism, gender identity, and the Israel-Palestine conflict. His books include A Duty to Offend, Anti-Woke, A Heretic’s Manifesto, and After the Pogrom.

next...

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.1  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @1.1    3 months ago
A self-described Marxist libertarian, he champions free speech...

Yep, sounds like a communist for sure.

Libertarian communist?....

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @1.1.1    3 months ago
He began his career with the Revolutionary Communist Party’s journal Living Marxism

Libertarian Marxist?

Does he have any Nazi tattoos?  We can add that label if he has or ever had...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @1.1    3 months ago

Marxist libertarian??? That's a serious contradiction. The man's brain must be warped

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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2  SteevieGee    3 months ago

Where were these booklets when our rapist in chief needed them read to him?

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1  Krishna  replied to  SteevieGee @2    3 months ago
our rapist in chief

"our rapist"?

I suppose I had been under the mistaken belief that you were American, not British"?

(Oh well. its probably not important jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png )

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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2.1.1  SteevieGee  replied to  Krishna @2.1    3 months ago

Yea, I wasn't talking about Randy Andy but, hey,  if the shoe fits...

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.2  seeder  GregTx  replied to  SteevieGee @2    3 months ago

512

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  GregTx @2.2    3 months ago

"You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. " "You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything" - Donald J Trump

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I wonder what he isn't waiting for? /s

Perhaps one of his loyal servants can crawl out of his ass to explain why that isn't an admission of sexual assault.

And then there's this...

A New York jury found former President Trump liable for sexually abusing columnist E. Jean Carroll Breaking down the verdict as jury finds Trump liable for sexual assault and defamation | PBS News

Liable: adjective -  a :   obligated according to law or equity (see   equity   sense 3 )   :   responsible

LIABLE Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

Responsible : adjective - 2: being the cause or explanation

RESPONSIBLE Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

The only ones trying to escape the reality that Trump is clearly sexual predator are the dumb fuck misogynist idiots with their heads stuck up Trumps ass wishing they got to assault more women and "grab 'em by the pussy" like their hero.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  SteevieGee @2    3 months ago

I know, right?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

Thanks to mass immigration,  now Europe gets to experience the joys of pro rape culture. Look what happened to the number of rapes in European cities once mass immigration started. The Benefits of diversity!

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    3 months ago
Thanks to mass immigration,  now Europe gets to experience the joys of pro rape culture.

All immigrant groups-- or just some?

(Curious minds want to know . . .)

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Krishna @3.1    3 months ago
ll immigrant groups-- or just some?

Allowing immigration from people likely to be a net benefit and not commit crimes and excluding the others should be the goal of a rational immigration policy. 

I think Denmark did a study of the various costs and benefits groups provide their economy.  The gaps are big. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4  Right Down the Center    3 months ago

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Krishna
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4.1  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    3 months ago

Her rape whistle?

Related: 

Sweden had had a very low incidence of gun violence. But that's changed

Up until a few years ago, Sweden was counted among the European countries with relatively low levels of homicide.

However, the homicide rate has increased in Sweden, and is now higher than that of many other countries in the EU.

The increase in Sweden is primarily linked to an increase in gun violence.

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.1.1  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Krishna @4.1    3 months ago

Why do you think that is?

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.2  charger 383  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    3 months ago

Good for you. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.2.1  seeder  GregTx  replied to  charger 383 @4.2    3 months ago

Right? Now she needs something a little smaller and easier to carry.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  GregTx @4.2.1    3 months ago

Christmas isn't too far away

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.2.3  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.2    3 months ago

 
 
 
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4.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    3 months ago

"You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss.  I don't even wait. " - Donald J Trump

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charger 383
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5  charger 383    3 months ago

Civilization falls when uncivilized are allowed in

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1  Krishna  replied to  charger 383 @5    3 months ago
Civilization falls when uncivilized are allowed in

That is correct.

However it must be realized that not all immigrants are violent. (In fact many groups have had an extremely positive effect on the U.S.)

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Krishna @5.1    3 months ago
800
 
 
 
charger 383
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5.1.2  charger 383  replied to  Krishna @5.1    3 months ago

Overcrowding is a negative effect

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.2  Split Personality  replied to  charger 383 @5    3 months ago

You mean like the Aztec's when the Spanish "visited"?

or the 

Millions of Native American who died when the Spanish, French and English invaded North America?

Rome fought the uncivilized for centuries virtually creating the Visigoths who destroyed the Roman Empire.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @5.2    3 months ago
ou mean like the Aztec's when the Spanish "visited"?

Or the Aztecs neighbors who were exploited as slaves and used as human sacrifice? The Spanish were welcomed by the victims of Aztec colonial oppression.  Otherwise, even with a much more advanced culture (they used the wheel!) a couple hundred Spaniards could not have conquered the Aztecs so easily. 

vilized for centuries virtually creating the Visigoths who destroyed the Roman Empire.

Lol. No the Visigoths were fleeing the Huns and were essentially granted asylum by the Romans who hoped to exploit them.   It turns out letting a foreign nation with incompatiblr customs  into your borders is a fucking lunatic idea and within two generations the Visigoths were sacking Rome. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.1    3 months ago
Or the Aztecs neighbors who were exploited as slaves and used as human sacrifice?

You seem to have a deep personal problem with the behavior of your ancestors and relatives.

The Spanish used smallpox to kill 90% of the Aztecs and their former slaves alike in less than two years.

After three years the Aztecs were wiped out and the indigenous population who helped the Spanish and survived the smallpox

were now slaves to the Spanish who were as merciless as the Aztecs 

Your blind spots are not my problem, pilgrim.

No the Visigoths were fleeing the Huns and were essentially granted asylum by the Romans who hoped to exploit them. 

Alternate facts?  It seems written explicitly to support your paranoid view of history.  

SMH

 
 
 
zuksam
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5.2.3  zuksam  replied to  Split Personality @5.2.2    3 months ago
The Spanish used smallpox to kill 90% of the Aztecs and their former slaves alike in less than two years.

The Spanish didn't know they were infected/carriers of smallpox and they certainly didn't know the Aztecs or anyone else had no immunity. Nobody understood how viruses worked or how to prevent them in the 1500s. Surgical hand washing wasn't even discovered until 1847 and most doctors rejected the idea that they were responsible for spreading disease and it wasn't widely accepted for decades till well after Louis Pasteur discovered germ theory.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  zuksam @5.2.3    3 months ago
. Nobody understood how viruses worked or how to prevent them in the 1500s.

Yes, the Spanish didn't use smallpox any more than the natives used syphilis as a weapon.   Both sides were exposed to novel pathogens they had no previous exposure to and the natives fared worse.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @5.2.2    3 months ago
ve a deep personal problem with the behavior of your ancestors and relatives.

Given my Ancestry DNA report, the Aztecs would be very distant relatives indeed. But yes, I do have a problem with societies that practice mass human sacrifice The world is much better off without them. 

e Spanish used smallpox to kill 90% of the Aztecs

Now there's an alternate  fact...  

  It seems written explicitly to support your paranoid view of history

My “paranoid view” of history is just  history From Google AI:

The Romans first encountered the direct ancestors of the Visigoths (the Thervingi Goths) in 376 AD, when tens of thousands of Gothic refugees arrived at the Danube River fleeing from the invading Huns. Emperor Valens allowed them to cross into Roman territory as settlers and allies
 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.2.6  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.5    3 months ago
Given my Ancestry DNA report, the Aztecs would be very distant relatives indeed. 

You miss the point frequently, don't you?  You are related to everyone who has gone before you. Period.

It turns out letting a foreign nation with incompatiblr customs  into your borders is a fucking lunatic idea

And there it is in a nut shell, your paranoid and simplistic view of history.

I'm pretty sure every Native American Indian would agree with you. /s

But that's not what caused Rome to fall.

The Romans spent 1400 years conquering and assimilating everywhere they could reach by land and sea, causing "tribe" after tribe to flee into neighboring non Roman territories, far more so than the Huns did in their scant 90 year existence.

By then the Roman Empire was divided between Rome and Constantinople when the Visigoths and Huns appeared.

True to form the Western Roman Empire, failing to eradicate the Visigoths, then tried to assimilate them.

The Visigoths revolted within two years but later became Roman allies against the Huns.

By 410 the Romans were using the Huns as mercenaries until Atilla came along, but when he died in 453, so did the Hunnic "empire".

By that time, the Western Roman empire was in disarray lacking central authority and the military was devastated after two successive civil wars.

They could not enforce Roman rules or collect taxes over such a vast territory let alone mount campaigns outside of Italy.

When Emperor Theodosius died and left the empire to two incompetent sons, it paved the way for the Germans to conquer Italy in 476 AD.

Ionically the Visigoths took Hispania and embraced all things Roman for 200 years before the Moors came.

The Eastern Roman Empire persisted for another thousand years teasing army after army to capture Constantinople ( Mehmed, 1453 )

The human history of the world is violent, filled with refugees and melded cultures and competing religions.

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.2.7  Krishna  replied to  Split Personality @5.2    3 months ago
You mean like the Aztec's when the Spanish "visited"?

The Spaniards' treatment of the native tribes in Mexico was barbaric.

(But FWIW the Aztecs treatment of some of the smaller Mexican tribes was also barbaric)

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @5.2.6    3 months ago
ou miss the point frequently, don't you?  You are related to everyone who has gone before you. Period

You think that's a point? That it is somehow relevant?   Lol. You are related to Hitler. Do you not have a problem with what he did because he's related to you?

m pretty sure every Native American Indian would agree with you. /s

Yeah. No shit.  That's literally the point.   They certainly  understood that concept before they ever heard of white people.  Sucked to be on the losing side of a war between Indian tribes.   Again, you say these things as if they are somehow relevant to or rebut something I've claimed.

t that's not what caused Rome to fall.

Lol. Of course it was. You copied and pasted facts below but don't get root cause.  All the problems you listed are downstream of mass immigration and the problems it caused to the Empire, which was already a degraded vestige of the Republic.   

e to form the Western Roman Empire, failing to eradicate the Visigoths, then tried to assimilate them

They did not try to "eradicate them".  They repeatedly tried to buy them off with land and autonomy.  After inviting the Goths across the border in the hopes they'd serve as troops, the goths went on a rampage and started the war that essentially broke the western Empire after the Goths didn't like the amount help the Romans gave them.  . . . And yet again, that's my point.  Successful immigration  policy  is only possible with assimilation. Melting pot can work. As you detail without apparently understanding, giving land and semi-autonomy to a hostile power within a country's borders doesn't

.The human history of the world is violent, filled with refugees and melded cultures and competing religions.

Bravo! Thanks for getting the most basic of concepts correct! Competing, incompatible   cultures cause  violence and the destabilization of states, tribes, kingdoms etc. That is the story of history. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.2.9  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.8    3 months ago
Bravo! Thanks for getting the most basic of concepts correct! Competing, incompatible cultures cause  violence and the destabilization of states, tribes, kingdoms etc. That is the story of history.

You are stubborn, I will grant you that. 

You are hung up on sophomoric excuses like "incompatible" as if it makes a difference.

 Humans need no such excuses.  Which revolutions were caused by "incompatibility"?

The American? The French? The Russian? The Chinese? 

The Visigoths didn't attack Rome because they were incompatible, they attacked because they were alike and wanted the power of the throne

which they proved in Spain by embracing everything Roman.

 
 
 
Thomas
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5.3  Thomas  replied to  charger 383 @5    3 months ago
Civilization falls when uncivilized are allowed in

Define "civilized". Define and compare with those whom you are talking about

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.3.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Thomas @5.3    3 months ago
Define "civilized". Define and compare with those whom you are talking about

I don't really think there is a valid objective definition of civilized. While most would consider it an advanced state of social, cultural, and technological development, or showing good manners, politeness, and reasonable behavior, all of those would be subjective as a society that just developed the wheel could be considered "civilized" when compared the one that had not, but would be considered far from civilized for a society that had developed steam engine technology or hydroelectric power.

"I moved on her, and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try and fuck her. She was married." "I took her out furniture—I moved on her like a bitch. But I couldn't get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything." "You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait." "Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything." - Donald J Trump

When asked a question by Bloomberg News reporter Catherine Lucey Trumps response was "Quiet, piggy."

So, with two Presidential votes, we can see what kind of civilization some Americans are talking about.

The 'civilization' MAGA want to take America back to is that civilization they think was the greatest, back to the 1950's when America's leadership in WWII and, along with our allies, winning the war on both fronts which was great. But that greatness overshadowed the continued unresolved racial conflicts that simmered and finally boiled over in the 1960's. But MAGA of today don't care about that, they don't care about the imperfect parts of their desired civilization, they want to go back to the 1950's when they believed women wanted to stay at home and gays wanted to stay in the closet and black Americans wanted to stay in the background and take menial jobs and never aspire to be a bank manager or, God forbid, President. That's the real "civilization" these MAGA sycophants are desperate to get back to. And of course, that fantasy they have will never come true if they keep allowing more and more people who don't look like them into what they believe is "their" civilization.

 
 
 
Thomas
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5.3.2  Thomas  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.3.1    3 months ago

I think you are describing the America MAGA wants people to picture: the idealized social order of the 1950s. My concern is that the governing project reaches much farther back institutionally, toward dismantling much of the regulatory framework built in response to the Gilded Age and later crises, while at the same time concentrating more power in the presidency. In other words, the cultural nostalgia may be for the 1950s, but the political and economic regression is toward a system with fewer restraints on concentrated private power and fewer restraints on the executive.

 
 
 
charger 383
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5.3.3  charger 383  replied to  Thomas @5.3    3 months ago

A quick definition and comparison of civilization would be before and after they let the barbarians in. 

Why a country chooses to make things worse for it's Citizens is confusing    

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.3.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  charger 383 @5.3.3    3 months ago

Back in the medieval days France thought England was full of barbarians and the English thought the same of the French. Who was correct?

 
 
 
charger 383
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5.3.5  charger 383  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.3.4    3 months ago

Then the ones outside your gates ware  the barbarians.  the ones threating you

I think the current ones are worse because they are wild in a tame society that does not expect their behavior 

 
 
 
Thomas
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5.3.6  Thomas  replied to  charger 383 @5.3.3    3 months ago

Who are the barbarians?

The immigrants? 

 
 
 
Thomas
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5.3.7  Thomas  replied to  charger 383 @5.3.5    3 months ago
I think the current ones are worse because they are wild in a tame society that does not expect their behavior 

So the Trump Administration and MAGA? 

 
 
 
charger 383
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5.3.8  charger 383  replied to  Thomas @5.3.7    3 months ago

no, they were in place not bring problems from foreign countries

 
 
 
charger 383
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5.3.9  charger 383  replied to  Thomas @5.3.6    3 months ago

outsiders that do not fit in and cause problems for the Citizens 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.3.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Thomas @5.3.6    3 months ago

of course they are..../s

 
 
 
charger 383
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6  charger 383    3 months ago

 Overpopulation is the real problem.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1  Split Personality  replied to  charger 383 @6    3 months ago

I agree.  We are running out of potable water.

 
 
 
zuksam
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6.2  zuksam  replied to  charger 383 @6    3 months ago

The US population has grown by 50 million people in the last twenty years and yes it's all immigration because we only have a birth rate of 1.59 births per woman in the USA well below replacement rates. Is it any wonder housing costs have skyrocketed because of a housing shortage? I also blame this huge increase for the insane prices for used Cars these days, the media claims it's because of pandemic chip shortages or the 2009 Cash for Clunkers program but that only destroyed 677,000 cars which is nothing compared to 50 million new customers who are primarily looking for used cars. Not to mention how a glut of cheap immigrant labor suppresses wages. Someone should ask the Democrats how this helps all the poor people they claim to care so much about.

 
 
 
charger 383
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6.2.1  charger 383  replied to  zuksam @6.2    3 months ago

very good points

 
 
 
Gazoo
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6.2.2  Gazoo  replied to  zuksam @6.2    3 months ago

“Someone should ask the Democrats how this helps all the poor people they claim to care so much about.”

i have asked one democrat on this site, multiple times, and never got a response.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  zuksam @6.2    3 months ago
The US population has grown by 50 million people in the last twenty years and yes it's all immigration because we only have a birth rate of 1.59 births per woman in the USA well below replacement rates.

Apparently the CDC feels otherwise.

The argument that the United States desperately needs immigration because Americans are not having "enough" children is a common theme of opinion pieces and even news coverage.

However, the latest data from the Census Bureau's 2019 American Community Survey shows that the fertility of both native-born and immigrant women (also referred to as the foreign-born) continues to decline, with the fall-off being more pronounced among immigrants.

In fact, 2019 was the first year in which immigrant fertility (legal and illegal together) dropped below replacement level — 2.1 children per woman on average.

As a result, the presence of immigrants in the country has only a modest impact on overall fertility. We also find some evidence that the presence of immigrants may lower the fertility of native-born women, further reducing immigration's ability to increase overall U.S. fertility. (Figures reflect conditions through mid-2019, before Covid-19.)

Births have averaged 4 million plus from 2000 through 2009, dropped a bit to 3.8 through 2019 and down to 3.6 million the last 4 years.

In the flips side, deaths  have steadily increased from 2 million in 2000 to 3.4 million in 2021, currently holding at 3million per year as the Baby Boomers have their final impact. 

Apparently in their zeal to remain invisible immigrants are avoiding having babies.

  Is it any wonder housing costs have skyrocketed because of a housing shortage?

The causes are multiple and complex but don't include immigrants apparently.  

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I also blame this huge increase for the insane prices for used Cars these days, the media claims it's because of pandemic chip shortages or the 2009 Cash for Clunkers program but that only destroyed 677,000 cars which is nothing compared to 50 million new customers who are primarily looking for used cars.

I don't blame the Cash for Clunkers, it was a failure.  The Global Supply fiasco and Covid had a bigger impact.

Adding 50 million in population doesn't mean they are all driving age yet but those that are 16 to 20 years old are not your typical new car buyers, strictly used car buyers and demand raises prices. Throw in the current Administrations interference in the market by favoring fossil fuels over electric and it has an nmpact.

Not to mention how a glut of cheap immigrant labor suppresses wages.

Sorry to disagree again, it's not the size of the slice of pie that matters, it's the size of the pie.

The GDP Engine

The $28 trillion U.S. economy is frequently analyzed through the lens of interest rates and trade deficits. However, the human capital component, specifically the inflow of foreign-born workers, remains one of the most potent variables in the equation of national growth.

Recent data shows that immigrants are not passive beneficiaries of American wealth but active, primary generators of it.

Economic Output

The correlation between immigration levels and   Gross Domestic Product   (GDP) growth is one of the most robust findings in modern economics. In 2023 alone,   immigrants generated approximately $1.7 trillion   in economic activity.

The Economic Case for Immigration: What the Data Shows About America's Workforce | GovFacts

Additionally wages have increased 39.5% since 2019, 3.5% currently but inflation is 3.4%

Someone should ask the Democrats how this helps all the poor people they claim to care so much about.

Someone should ask Democrats how to get non-Democrats to participate in reality.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
6.2.4  Krishna  replied to  Gazoo @6.2.2    3 months ago
i have asked one democrat on this site, multiple times, and never got a response.

Well if one democrat acts a certain way, then obviously that means that all Democrats act the same way!

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Gazoo
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6.2.5  Gazoo  replied to  Krishna @6.2.4    3 months ago

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Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

sums up the asininity and surrealism of how modern immigration policy as well as anything :

            Imagine a Rip Van Winkle who had fallen asleep in, say, the mid-1990s, waking up today and trying to               understand what was going on.

“So these refugees. They’re mainly women and children, I suppose?”

“No, they’re almost all young men.”

“Oh. But they’re fleeing some dreadful warzone?”

“No, not exactly. They’re coming from France”

.”So how do they sneak past our coastguard?”

“That’s the odd thing. UK Border Force picks them up in the Channel and then lands them in Britain.

” “Well, I suppose they must make some great contribution once they arrive, then?”

“They’re not allowed to work. But they’re very active when it comes to crime, especially sexual assaults. In fact, the Home Office has just brought out a leaflet asking them not to molest women and children...”’

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
7.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 months ago
Home Office has just brought out a leaflet asking them not to molest women and children...”’

That does not bode well for the sheep.

 
 
 
GregTx
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8  seeder  GregTx    3 months ago
are the rape leaflets in the uk multilingual?

Per COPILOT, 

The UK Home Office is preparing to make rape and sexual consent guidance for asylum seekers available in multiple languages to ensure comprehension, but the specific languages have not been publicly disclosed.

Overview of the Leaflets

The guidance, produced by the Home Office, is a nine-page booklet designed to explain British laws and societal standards to newly arrived asylum seekers. It covers topics including sexual consent, rape, harassment, the legal age of consent (16), and equality between men and women in the UK. The leaflet emphasizes that sexual activity requires consent from both parties, and anyone unable to give consent—for instance, if asleep or intoxicated—cannot legally agree to sexual activity

Multilingual Translation

According to reports, Home Office officials are preparing translations of the leaflet into multiple languages to eliminate comprehension barriers among asylum seekers

 However, the government has not specified which languages or dialects the guidance will be translated into. This approach is intended to make British legal norms and protections explicit to all recipients, regardless of their first language.

Purpose

The translated leaflets aim to inform asylum seekers about their legal obligations and protect individuals from harm. They cover:

Laws regarding consent, sexual activity, and rape.

The legal prohibition on sexual activities with anyone under 16.

Gender equality, including that women do not need permission from any man to study, work, travel, or marry.

Rules regarding public behavior, such as avoiding sexual comments, harassment, or offensive gestures

These leaflets are not only educational but also serve to clarify the consequences of breaking UK law, which may include criminal prosecution or effects on asylum claims.

In summary, the leaflets are being translated into several languages, though the exact list is undisclosed, to ensure that asylum seekers can fully understand British laws on sexual conduct and equality.

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bugsy
Professor Participates
8.1  bugsy  replied to  GregTx @8    3 months ago

It doesn't matter what language they get translated to. 

No matter what, some leftist group made up of a bunch of AWFLs will claim because the pamphlets are in any language other than English, the British government is being racist to that nationality.

 
 
 
Thomas
Professor Guide
9  Thomas    3 months ago

Well, here is ChatGPT's take on the article:

Main thesis

The article argues that the UK government's decision to issue guidance on consent, rape, domestic abuse, and gender equality to asylum seekers proves that mass migration is importing people with values incompatible with British society, and that this supports Trump's broader warnings about Europe.

What is supported

The factual core is real. The UK Home Office issued guidance for asylum seekers explaining British laws and expectations concerning consent, domestic abuse, harassment, gender equality, and related issues.

It is also reasonable to conclude that the government believes some asylum seekers may come from societies with different legal or cultural norms and that explicit instruction may therefore be useful.

Where the argument exceeds the evidence

The article repeatedly moves from a limited fact to much broader conclusions that are not demonstrated.

  • Asylum seekers become "illegal immigrants." These are not equivalent categories.

  • The existence of a consent guide becomes evidence that migrants do not know rape is wrong. The guide does not establish that.

  • Cultural differences become evidence of a generalized sexual threat to British women. The article provides no population-level crime evidence supporting that conclusion.

  • Selected examples and political controversy become evidence that the British public as a whole is enraged.

  • Migrants are broadly characterized as people who "hate women, hate gays, hate Jews," without evidence demonstrating such attitudes across the population.

  • A government integration document becomes proof of Trump's much broader claim that Europe faces "civilizational erasure."

That final step is particularly weak. The leaflet may support the narrow proposition that large-scale migration creates integration challenges. It does not establish demographic or civilizational collapse.

Important omission

The Home Office document is not solely directed at potential offenders. It also tells asylum seekers who are victims of rape or domestic abuse how to obtain assistance and explains that reporting abuse will not jeopardize their asylum claims.

That context is largely absent from the article because it complicates the author's framing.

Logical problems

The central pattern is:

fact → inference → generalization → much larger political conclusion

The principal problems are:

  • hasty generalization

  • category conflation

  • composition fallacy

  • extrapolation by assertion

  • insufficient evidence for population-wide claims

Assessment

Measure Assessment
Factual core Strong
Framing Misleading
Evidence for broader claims Weak
Logic Weak
Rhetorical effectiveness Strong
Candor Mixed

Factual substance : unsupported rhetoric/inference: approximately 30 : 70.

Bottom line

The article identifies a legitimate issue: cultural integration and differing social norms among some migrant populations.

It does not establish its larger claims about migrants generally, sexual danger, or the destruction of European civilization. Those conclusions are produced primarily through selection followed by extrapolation, rather than demonstrated by the evidence presented.


No AIs were harmed in the production of this reporting.

 
 

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