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Cambridge’s Farah Ahmed: study engineering ‘to produce weaponry for Jihad’

  

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Cambridge’s Farah Ahmed: study engineering ‘to produce weaponry for Jihad’

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Cambridge University’s education faculty – former home of Jason Arday – has appointed as assistant research professor a woman who wrote that Muslims should study engineering and computers ‘to produce advanced weaponry for Jihad in order that the deen [Islam] may dominate over all other deens.’





This is the fourth in our series of articles about Farah Ahmed, a former activist in the racist, extremist and separatist group Hizb ut Tahrir, now banned as a terror organisation, who has been given a senior role by Cambridge training the future leaders of the teaching profession.




Two weeks ago we   covered   one chapter Ahmed wrote in a Hizb pamphlet – published in 2002, and republished in 2017 (Ahmed was not involved in the republication) – where she attacked ‘western education’ as a ‘threat’ to Muslims, condemned democracy and integration, and criticised British schools for teaching pupils that child marriage is wrong.

However, the same pamphlet includes a second, even more radical chapter, co-written by Ahmed and another senior Hizb activist, Nazreen Nawaz, head of its women’s section. This describes Hizb’s plan to create a fully Islamic education system as part of the Islamic dictatorship, the Khilafah, which is its core goal. As the chapter puts it: ‘nothing will be contained within the curriculum that contradicts with Islam, such as the teaching of the ideas of freedom, nationalism, democracy or evolution in a positive light’.

‘Nor can there be any schools established on any other religion, sect or race… Even the non-Muslims need to be educated under the educational curriculum of Islam… by pushing them to think about the correct belief in life.’


As for higher education, there is little room in Ahmed and Nawaz’s world for the doctrines and subjects so beloved of the Cambridge airheads who hired her: ‘Subjects such as foreign philosophies and religions, capitalism, communism, socialism, nationalism, sociology, psychology, foreign history, foreign languages and foreign literature, should be taught only at the higher level of education with the view of refuting their ideas and exposing their falsehood.’

The real purpose of university study, say the pair, is to equip Muslims for conquest. ‘The motivation to study engineering would be to aid the development of machinery for Jihad and Allah’s reward for this is immeasurable. The motivation for studying computer technology would be to elevate the Islamic society over all other societies in the world, to show it as a shining example and to produce advanced weaponry for Jihad in order that the deen [Islam] may dominate over all other deens as commanded by the Creator.’



The motivation for studying computer technology would be… to produce advanced weaponry for Jihad


There is a whole section in this chapter, by the way, on ‘the training of teachers’ to achieve all these goals – the very thing Ahmed is being paid by Cambridge University to influence.

Ahmed claimed in 2010 that she no longer supports ‘all’ the views of Hizb ut Tahrir, and that she had not recently been involved in the organisation. Approached for comment, however, she did not reply when asked if she still shared the views she expressed in this pamphlet. Nawaz did not respond to a request for comment either. As we reported   last week , a Cambridge University-hosted project run by Ahmed promotes an ‘Islamic curriculum’ which   tells 12-year-olds   that Hamas is an ‘excuse that Israel uses to justify its attacks on the Gaza Strip’, calls the civilian hostages taken by the terror group on October 7 ‘prisoners of war’ and publishes in pupils’ course material a map of the region from which Israel has been erased.

We already knew, of course, that Cambridge’s education faculty is a moral and intellectual scandal. But is it also a threat to national security?


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Sean Treacy
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1  seeder  Sean Treacy    3 months ago
The motivation for studying computer technology would be to elevate the Islamic society over all other societies in the world, to show it as a shining example and to produce advanced weaponry for Jihad in order that the deen [Islam] may dominate over all other deens as commanded by the Creator.’

Do jihadists just sit back and laugh at how easy it is to manipulate the progressives who control western education? A few obligatory nods to their catechism of diversity and they are free to wage war on western civilization from within. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    3 months ago

Do jihadists just sit back and laugh at how easy it is to manipulate the progressives who control western education? A few obligatory nods to their catechism of diversity and they are free to wage war on western civilization from within. 

You act like other religions aren't just as guilty. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @1.1    3 months ago

It's not about the religion. Nothing has really changed.  After all:

“We tend nowadays to forget that for approximately a thousand years, from the advent of Islam in the 7th century until the second siege of Vienna in 1683, Christian Europe was under constant threat from Islam. The double threat of conquest and conversion, of military invasion and religious subversion, hung over Europe. All but the easternmost provinces of the Islamic realm had been taken from Christian rulers… North Africa, Egypt, Syria, even Persian-ruled Iraq, had been Christian countries, in which Christianity was older and more deeply rooted than in most of Europe. Their loss was sorely felt and heightened the fear that a similar fate was in store for Europe.”

It's about the leaders of universities who hire these radicals out of either naivete or hatred for western civilization. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @1.1    3 months ago

attention islamic jihadists - the parking lot attendants in the reflective safety vests at mega churches are really armed guards.

apparently the threat of sharia law is what gets gullible bible thumping scum to the polls in an election year now ...

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.1    3 months ago

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  devangelical @1.1.2    3 months ago

Bingo. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.5  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.3    3 months ago

I'll repeat, since you missed the point so badly. 

It's about the leaders of universities who hire these radicals out of either naivete or hatred for western civilization. 

Are progressives hiring evangelists for the Army of God to instruct kids to commit Christian terrorism at universities? Would you be okay if they were?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.1.6  Nerm_L  replied to  MrFrost @1.1    3 months ago
You act like other religions aren't just as guilty. 

Why focus on religion?  This is story is about a woman - and - women have been known to engage in militant behavior (although it is politically incorrect to call it terrorism).

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.5    3 months ago
It's about the leaders of universities who hire these radicals

A radical to you is a visionary to others. In case you missed the point. This is why we do not legislate morals. Trump is one of the most radical 'leaders' of our time. He has a better relationship with North Korea than he has with Canada or South Korea..Let that sink in before you start claiming others are, "radicals". 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.8  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.7    3 months ago

oh look, we're being warned about an islamist takeover by those attempting to install a thumper theocracy ...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.9  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.7    3 months ago
dical to you is a visionary to others.

Lol. You can give evangelicals for global jihad any pet name you want. Call then a visionary or a prophet if it suits you. It doesn't' matter. They have no business evangelizing jihad in school, no matter what silly arguments of moral equivalency you make. 

As progressives become more and more aligned with jihadists, we can expect this cheerleading for jihad to become even more blatant.

This is why we do not legislate morals

Laws are literally moral sanctions.  Progressivism in particular is built upon imposing your moral values on society. You should probably understand that before going any further. 

Let that sink in before you start claiming others are, "radicals". .

Just so we are clear, you are now saying it's wrong to call someone who supports child marriage, hates western education  and wants to impose the Muslim religion on the world is not a radical.  My work is done. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.10  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.9    3 months ago
Just so we are clear, you are now saying it's wrong to call someone who supports child marriage, hates western education  and wants to impose the Muslim religion on the world is not a radical.

I'm guessing you missed those Southern states wanting to display, and teach, the 10 commandments in schools? Trump literally supports for profit education, no more public schools. That's not exactly supporting western civilization or public education. What happens when a kid in Mississippi shows up to school with a prayer rug? Freedom of religion right Sean? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.1.8    3 months ago

Beware the Islamist Boogie Man!!!

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.12  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.10    3 months ago

there's only one religion that christo-fascists want to fully enjoy freedom in this country ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.10    3 months ago
What happens when a kid in Mississippi shows up to school with a prayer rug?

The Christian Nationalists will behead him with a sword

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.14  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.13    3 months ago

... if they're not too busy molesting children, committing adultery, or having incestuous sex at family functions.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.15  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.13    3 months ago
eware the Islamist Boogie Man!!!
he Christian Nationalists will behead him with a sword

Lol. Perfect.. 

Imagine believing Islamic terrorism is a boogie man while believing there are terrorist groups of Christian nationalists beheading Muslims in Mississppii.  Progressive propaganda really works. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.16  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.15    3 months ago

Just playing follow the leader....

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.17  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.1    3 months ago

How about people who LIE and delude themselves, their fellow believers, and new converts into thinking and accepting God/Jesus of the Bible is a white European guy with long wavy hair and blue eyes? Oh yeah. . .tell us about how 'older' Christianity got to be a fit for White Power depictions.  Please proceed. . . .

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.18  CB  replied to  devangelical @1.1.2    3 months ago

All they have to do is say 'code' words and some conservatives start to 'hissing' and calling on 'blue-eyed' Jesus to save 'the day'! Poor fools are they not? Do they not understand that by virtue of placement, and constitution, Sharia Law can not exist in this country without a major shift that would take generations to come about. . .and would be seen at it hits the 'horizon.' Of course, 'creep' can be an issue. . . and it did actually occur during modern times that blond, blue-eyed, white Jesus was depicted and became the conservative version of God for their 'masses.' So, 'anything' is possible, even if not probable.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.19  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.5    3 months ago

Keep that singular-focus thing coming! It's a 'good look' despite a lack of subject matter effectiveness. I mean, if you can just come here and post sh-t anchored in the 'air' surrounding this place. . .we can comment on the ludicrous nature of the singular 'focus' happening. :)

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.20  CB  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.7    3 months ago

Clearly, Trump is an 'Unstable' leader - the fool is for Ukraine in practice, and for North Korea in practice too. They are 'opposers' in a war! Of course, MAGA does not 'see' any problem with that 'picture'!  Such people just want for they want. . . as they try to (continue in their striving to) take it out of liberals' backsides. 

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.21  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.9    3 months ago

As conservatives continue to split and divide over Donald's 'thirsty' appetites for fame and lavish fortune. . . y'all will eventually become disenchanted once it becomes 'totally' clear that y'all can not satiate his greed for more and more. . . come back, sit down, and talk like y'all got some sense that others can care about. 

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.22  CB  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.10    3 months ago

Oh my, where is the Church of Satan when we need them 'more than ever' to make a point about freedom on religion?! Church of Satan worshppers. . .where are you all at - right now?!!!

Calling Baphomet!!! 'Paging BAPHOMET!! Where are you, BAPHOMET!!!!

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 Never thought I would see the day when I would have to rely on an idol to 'tame' the foolishness of some types of Christians— go figure!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.23  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @1.1.22    3 months ago

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Sean Treacy
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2  seeder  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

Farah Ahmed , who has denounced British schools for teaching that “polygamy or marriage under the age of 16” is “archaic and discriminatory to women,

However, the same pamphlet includes a second, even more radical chapter, co-written by Ahmed and another senior Hizb activist, Nazreen Nawaz, head of its women’s section. This describes Hizb’s plan to create a fully Islamic education system as part of the Islamic dictatorship, the Khilafah, which is its core goal. As the chapter puts it: ‘nothing will be contained within the curriculum that contradicts with Islam, such as the teaching of the ideas of freedom, nationalism, democracy or evolution in a positive light’.

Cambridge is either functionally led by mentally challenged crazy people or people who are intent on destroying western civilization. Given its hiring history, not sure any other option exists. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    3 months ago

Ah yes, meforum, founded by Daniel Pipes a purveyor of "no-go zones" in europe ... was quite amusing when he recanted the lie.

Could be the time to shoot your messengers, Sean.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hallux @2.1    3 months ago

Instead of trying to deflect with cheap logical fallacies, why don't you show she didn't make those claims?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3  Ozzwald    3 months ago
Cambridge’s Farah Ahmed: study engineering ‘to produce weaponry for Jihad’

Since you have no way of knowing what any student will build with the knowledge they gain, we should obviously ban higher education, force relocation to the bible belt, and provide them all with a red hat to wear.

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Sean Treacy
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3.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @3    3 months ago

Are you actually unable to tell the difference between that and telling and professors evangelizing kids to learn engineering for jihad? 

 
 
 
evilone
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3.1.1  evilone  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    3 months ago

I don't know about professors, but the Army of God and The Lord’s Resistance Army are still operating today. There are any number of people who have used Christian dogma to justify violence on just about anything they don't like. Some of them seemed pretty happy to put it in print for others to copy.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  evilone @3.1.1    3 months ago
t professors, but the Army of God and The Lord’s Resistance Army are still operating today

I' m sure.  No doubt being funded by the SPLC.   

Again, can you see the difference between those groups existing and a university deciding an evangelist for their ideology is fit to instruct kids?

But of course, the same people who have no problem with evangelizing jihad and the imposition of the Islam upon the entire world in schools will flip out should someone suggest schools have a moment of silent reflection in which Christian kids can pray if they want. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.2    3 months ago

You should calm down

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.3    3 months ago

as a self proclaimed atheist, I don't know why he's so concerned. pretty quick to the defense of those he's indifferent to ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @3.1.4    3 months ago

I know, right? Help me make sense of that. I have a pretty good idea what the problem is, tho

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.6  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.3    3 months ago

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Trout Giggles
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3.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.6    3 months ago

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Sean Treacy
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3.1.8  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.7    3 months ago

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evilone
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3.1.9  evilone  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.2    3 months ago
No doubt being funded by the SPLC.   

That's not as funny as you think it is. 

Again, can you see the difference between those groups existing and a university deciding an evangelist for their ideology is fit to instruct kids?

The Lord's Resistance Army abducts children by the hundreds... train the boys as soldiers and use the girls as sex slaves. 

But of course, the same people who have no problem with evangelizing jihad and the imposition of the Islam upon the entire world in schools will flip out should someone suggest schools have a moment of silent reflection in which Christian kids can pray if they want. 

I don't give any more slack to those evangelizing islam as those evangelizing christianity, or any other religion. It's all pretty stupid to me.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.10  devangelical  replied to  evilone @3.1.9    3 months ago

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Trout Giggles
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3.1.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.8    3 months ago

Something terrible just happened so go one and play with yourself. We're done for the day

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @3.1.9    3 months ago

This may help. I don't think he knows who you're talking about

he Lord's Resistance Army ( LRA ) is a Christian extremist and Acholi nationalist organization operating in Central and East Africa . Its origins were in the Ugandan insurgency (1986–1994) against Yoweri Museveni , during which Joseph Kony founded the LRA in 1987. The group relied heavily on the abduction of pre-teens to fill its ranks, utilizing child soldiers as both frontline combatants and forced porters.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.13  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  evilone @3.1.9    3 months ago
The Lord's Resistance Army abducts children by the hundreds.

And which western university is hiring one of their members to inculcate those values? 

don't give any more slack to those evangelizing islam

Sure you do. You are trying to draw an equivalence  between rebels in Uganda and voluntarily hiring jihadis at elite western universities.  

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.14  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.13    3 months ago

it's going to be very gratifying to watch a lot of maga thumpers take the brunt of punishment for being gullible dipshits ...

 
 
 
evilone
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3.1.15  evilone  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.13    3 months ago
And which western university is hiring one of their members to inculcate those values? 

Why does a western university hiring matter more to you than the other?

Sure you do. 

Nope. 

You are trying to draw an equivalence  between rebels in Uganda and voluntarily hiring jihadis at elite western universities.  

I simply supplied some information. People are ugly and violent and often hide behind religion to justify it... Constantly picking on a single one is a type of virtue signaling and doesn't go unnoticed. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.16  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  evilone @3.1.15    3 months ago
does a western university hiring matter more to you than the other?

You can't figure out why an elite western university hiring a jihadi to evangelize the overthrow of the west to students matters more than the action of a rebel group in Uganda? Which, do you think might, just might, have more of an impact on western culture?

Nope. 

Your actions say differently. 

 simply supplied some information.

On a completely unrelated topic. 

ople are ugly and violent and often hide behind religion to justify it

and that justifies hiring a jihad evangelist  how? 

In all these posts not a  single "I'm not biased, I don't like all religious extremists"  progressive said it's wrong for the university to hire this woman. Just "Christians are bad too" nonsense.  Progressives are apparently perfectly Fine with a woman who supports forced child marriage, who only wants pro-Islam propaganda to be taught proselyting as a teacher  etc.. because they aren't Christian.   Compare this to how the same people reacted to a football player telling a graduating class that choosing to be a homemaker is perfectly acceptable for a woman.  

 Constantly picking on a single one is a type of virtue signaling and doesn't go unnoticed. 

The irony....

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.17  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.16    3 months ago
You can't figure out why an elite western university hiring a jihadi to evangelize the overthrow of the west to students matters more than the action of a rebel group in Uganda?

Is that actually part of the job description?  You have that in writing?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.18  JohnRussell  replied to  evilone @3.1.15    3 months ago

The bitter truth is they dont care what happens to Africans. They care about what happens to "western civilization." 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.19  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.18    3 months ago

Yes John, I do care more about what happens to Americans than Ugandans. You got me. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.20  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.17    3 months ago
ou have that in writing?

Yeah, hers. 

 
 
 
evilone
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3.1.21  evilone  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.16    3 months ago
You can't figure out why an elite western university hiring a jihadi to evangelize the overthrow of the west to students matters more than the action of a rebel group in Uganda? Which, do you think might, just might, have more of an impact on western culture?

Yeah... That shows your bias.

Your actions say differently. 

You have an active imagination.

On a completely unrelated topic. 

Maybe... maybe I don't pick and choose who's religion is worse.

and that justifies hiring a jihad evangelist  how? 

I'm pretty sure I didn't say it justified anything.

Just "Christians are bad too" nonsense. 

We can see you don't care about bad Christians. That doesn't fit your narrative. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.22  MrFrost  replied to  evilone @3.1.21    3 months ago
We can see you don't care about bad Christians.

Exactly the point I was trying to make, thank you!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.23  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.20    3 months ago
ou have that in writing?
Yeah, hers.

So another claim with no citations.  You may be the most consistent person on NT.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.24  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  evilone @3.1.21    3 months ago
eah... That shows your bias.

Look in the mirror.

maybe I don't pick and choose who's religion is worse.

Do you think they are the same?  You think we'd have been better of is the Muslims had conquered Europe?  Women, gays etc would really hate that. But I guess some enjoy being dictated to by ayatollahs too.  

We can see you don't care about bad Christians. That doesn't fit your narrative. 

Lol.   Seed a story about the Lords Resistance Army and I'll actually condemn them without going "but, but Muslims!" And if a college hires an exponent of their views I'll happily call them idiots and say it's wrong to do so without deflecting.

You, however, obviously cannot  condemn extremist Muslims without deflecting.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.25  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.23    3 months ago

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evilone
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3.1.26  evilone  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.24    3 months ago
Do you think they are the same?  You think we'd have been better of is the Muslims had conquered Europe?  Women, gays etc would really hate that. But I guess some enjoy being dictated to by ayatollahs too. 

No, we'd be much better off in an educated world where reason and logic keep testing and retesting. Where other people respect their neighbors. Instead we can point to 500 years of the dark ages.

You, however, obviously cannot  condemn extremist Muslims without deflecting.

Our own FBI say we don't have a radical Muslim issue and the Pew Research Center says US Muslims condemn extremist groups. So, when you can come up with a real issue I'll listen. Until then one weirdo an ocean away isn't going to keep me up at night. 

Seed a story about...

Lead by example...seed a story about bad Christians and maybe we'll start taking you seriously.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4  Jeremy Retired in NC    3 months ago

Cambridge University, located in the lovely Islamic State of England. 

Is it any surprise we see garbage like this published by garbage like her?  And for some reason the mentally disabled don's see a problem.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    3 months ago
Islamic State of England. 

Just like the Islamic state of Japan? LMFAO! 

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.1  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @4.1    3 months ago

hilarious. being threatened with the tenets of one religion by those that can't live within the tenets of their own ...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @4.1.1    3 months ago

Thanks for proving my point.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.2    3 months ago

thanks for proving mine ...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @4.1.1    3 months ago

You actually think I'm afraid of these clowns?  Please, they're a joke.  Wouldn't be my first fight against them, won't be my last.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.4    3 months ago

too bad you've already failed at defending the constitution ...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @4.1.5    3 months ago

How cute.  You think I'm one of you.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.6    3 months ago

more like the polar opposite when it comes to preserving, protecting, and defending the constitution and due process of law.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.6    3 months ago
You think I'm one of you.

We are not your kind. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.8    3 months ago

I would stand with you any day to defend our freedoms. Just don't ask me to shoot straight

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.10  MrFrost  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.9    3 months ago

AMEN!

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.11  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.9    3 months ago
Just don't ask me to shoot straight

meh, no worries, that's what shotguns and machine guns are good for ...

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    3 months ago

You’d think evangelicals would recognize a kindred spirit, but they aren’t generally interested in being that self-aware.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @5    3 months ago

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devangelical
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5.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1    3 months ago
desperate attempt to deflect

the entire basis for this article ...

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1    3 months ago

Speaking of deflecting…there’s that unwillingness to embrace self-awareness that I just mentioned.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6  seeder  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

The desperation to create some sort of equivalence here is fascinating.  The same people who always claim to oppose "religious extremism" are, yet again, defending Islamism.  

Per Chatgpt:

how many terrorist attacks were carried out in America by the Army of God in the last 20 years?

If you mean the 20-year period from August 25, 2006 through August 25, 2026, the best-supported answer is:

0 documented terrorist attacks in the United States carried out by the Army of God during that period.

How many attacks by Islamists

The strongest recent source I found is CSIS, which tracks jihadist terrorism separately from disrupted plots. Its data show:

  • 2013–2019: 27 jihadist attacks
  • 2020–Jan. 2025: 8 jihadist attacks
  • That is 35 attacks from 2013 through early 2025
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evilone
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6.1  evilone  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    3 months ago

The real question is many terrorist attacks were carried out in America by Cambridge professors in the last 20 years?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  evilone @6.1    3 months ago
terrorist attacks were carried out in America by Cambridge professors in the last 20 years?

Not sure about Cambridge professors, but many domestic terrorists became left wing college professors in America. 

Of course should one occur, your first reply would be "but Christians in Uganda committed atrocities" so who cares about  Islamicist Cambridge professors committing terrorist attacks in America. 

 
 
 
evilone
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6.1.2  evilone  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.1    3 months ago
but many domestic terrorists became left wing college professors in America. 

LOL... That makes so much sense that you think left wing loonies are terrorists. The populists right sounds so much like the populist left.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    3 months ago
The same people who always claim to oppose "religious extremism" are, yet again, defending Islamism.  

I think they do it out of fear.  They see how barbaric Islamists are and their first instinct is to capitulate. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.2.1  bugsy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.2    3 months ago

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MrFrost
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6.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @6.2.1    3 months ago

Stupidity is not accepted in most countries

Trump is still here. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.2.3  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.2    3 months ago

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JohnRussell
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6.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @6.2.3    3 months ago

Trump is fast losing what little brain cells he has left.  Nobody wants a trade war with Canada. Now the asshole wants to rename Lake Ontario "Lake America". Now he is threatening to tear down the Kennedy Center because the court wont let him put his name on it. 

We dont want this level of total asshole running the country. Get that through your thick head. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.4    3 months ago

My daughter used to throw the most horrendous tamper tantrums when she was a toddler. I would pick her up and put her in her room where she could throw her tantrum to her heart's content.

Can we lock trmp in his room?

 
 
 
CB
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7  CB    3 months ago
Two weeks ago we    covered    one chapter Ahmed wrote in a Hizb pamphlet – published in 2002, and republished in 2017 (Ahmed was not involved in the republication) – where she attacked ‘western education’ as a ‘threat’ to Muslims , condemned democracy and integration, and criticised British schools for teaching pupils that child marriage is wrong.

Question followers of conservative white, blue - eyed Jesus. . . and sola scriptura: How did you accomplish hiding Joseph and Mary's 'child' marriage in plain sight ?

I mean, it is hardly ever mentioned, whispered, or a 'scandal' rooted in the ancient Middle East among conservatives and their commentaries as a dark period in Christendom. And yet here a MAGA supporter thinking he can condemn others for not keeping to a standard that technically Christians should be patterning for themselves (since blue-eyed Jesus allegedly was 'born this way' - you know. . .an 'untouched' vessel in a human can't get much fresher than a 'child' of a certain age. :)

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @7    3 months ago

Some state (have to look it up) just failed to pass a law banning child marriage. Pretty sure it was a Bible Belt state. Oh...the hypocrisy rampant up and down this seed

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1    3 months ago

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Trout Giggles
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7.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1    3 months ago

I knew it was Lousiana

 
 
 
evilone
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7.1.3  evilone  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.2    3 months ago

There are 16 states where the legal age to marry is 16: 

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Colorado
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Louisiana
Montana
North Carolina
North Dakota
South Carolina
South Dakota
Utah
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

There are 29 states where the legal age of consent is 16. If people were truly worried about children, sex and sexuality these would not be lists.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @7.1.3    3 months ago

I think marriage before the age of 30 is too young for anybody, but I digress. Most of these states are red states as I would have predicted, so Colorado surprises me

 
 
 
evilone
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7.1.5  evilone  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.4    3 months ago
I think marriage before the age of 30 is too young for anybody, but I digress.

I think the age of adulthood should be raised to 25 and some kind of education, job training or military be made mandatory from 18 to 25. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @7.1.5    3 months ago

I agree. Brains aren't fully developed until the age of 25...in some cases much later if at all. 

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.7  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.6    3 months ago

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Sean Treacy
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7.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @7    3 months ago

How old was Mary? Do you have her birth cerificate? 

Also, you realize things have changed since 2000 years ago, right?  Life expectancy was 30-35 years at that  time.

 
 
 
CB
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7.2.1  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2    3 months ago

Do you have her birth certificate, Sean? Of course you do not, because it would not be a published document standing the test of time. Scholars give the age of Mary as 12-13 years old when she was betrothed to Joseph.  So you can take it up with the scholars! God is of all times and places we are taught, told, and believe. . . so you go figure out why God would pick a 12-13 years old in a period where life expectancy was short to impregnate! Were there no "Women" around that were pure?

Either you are going to agree with your/the Bible are you going to make a 'mess' out of it trying to foist an agenda into it!

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  CB @7    3 months ago
And yet here a MAGA supporter thinking he can condemn others for not keeping to a standard

I would be more surprised to learn of a MAGA supporter NOT being a complete hypocritical asshole. Being an ignorant hypocritical asshole is a pre-requisite for being a Trump supporter, otherwise you just don't fit in Trump's bowel along with the rest of the MAGA movement.

 
 
 
CB
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8  CB    3 months ago
‘Nor can there be any schools established on any other religion, sect or race… Even the non-Muslims need to be educated under the educational curriculum of Islam… by pushing them to think about the correct belief in life.’

Well that reads like a UK problem and one that the UK should invest time in 'remedying.' That said, why are we fielding stories about other shores 'problem children' —MAGA supporters once again are missing the mark. . . y'all told us the line about 'America First'! And, from this, y'all do not believe it. Y'all are playing a game fo 'wac a mole' with the world and doing the damnedest to drag us (unwillingly) along for the ride.

One has to wonder if the blue-eyed God/Jesus 'crowd' in the UK is 'reaching' into the 'States' for news accounts of liberals on the fringes to judge and make them feel relevant in their apparently 'dreary' lives. Apparently, some conservatives can not live without liberals to 'bash.' Well, that has come to an end!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9  seeder  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

Truly amazing wathcing progressives cheerlead for a religious extremist to be put in charge of educating children. I'll say this for Ahmed, she's not really  the problem. She didn't hide her beliefs. She makes it very clear her goal is Islamic Supremacy and using the state education system to bring it about:

 ‘The motivation to study engineering would be to aid the development of machinery for Jihad and Allah’s reward for this is immeasurable. The motivation for studying computer technology would be to elevate the Islamic society over all other societies in the world, to show it as a shining example and to produce advanced weaponry for Jihad in order that the deen [Islam] may dominate over all other deens as commanded by the Creator.’

Even those struggling with literacy should be able to understand that.  

And progressives are perfectly happy to have her set education policy, because, like them she hates western culture. There own neuroses and reflexive hatred leads them to  cheerlead  for an Islamic radical to who openly admits her goal is to poison our education system with Islamic supremacy propaganda.  If it were written as a satire  a couple decades ago it would have been dismissed as too far fetched. On the one hand, there is a highly comedic aspect to it, but underneath is tragedy. 

 
 
 
evilone
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9.1  evilone  replied to  Sean Treacy @9    3 months ago
Truly amazing wathcing progressives cheerlead for a religious extremist to be put in charge of educating children.

I don't see see anyone here cheerleading for religious extremists doing anything. I do see MAGA flunkies flailing in the dark looking for something to be outraged about. Your seeded article has been responded to in The Jewish News -

A spokesperson for the Faculty of Education, University of Cambridge, said: “These comments were made in an article to which Dr Ahmed contributed as a historical researcher more than 20 years ago. She has said that they are not her words and do not reflect her views. Dr Ahmed also reiterated that she ended her association with Hizb ut-Tahrir more than 15 years ago, long before the group was proscribed. Her appointment at Cambridge followed a standard recruitment process and complied fully with the University’s legal obligations as an employer.”

Now... I do not support this woman, or an Islamic curriculum. Nor do I support Jewish, Hindi, Buddhist or Christian curriculums.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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9.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @9    3 months ago
Truly amazing wathcing progressives cheerlead for a religious extremist to be put in charge of educating children.

What's not surprising is watching conservatives use a few paragraphs from a pamphlet this woman co-wrote 24 years ago to claim she's trying to teach children Jihad. It's exactly what I would expect from tired dishonest dumb shits who are desperately trying to use this decades old garbage to deflect and distract from their disaster of a President that is grifting our nation and violating our constitution.

 
 
 
Thomas
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9.3  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @9    3 months ago
Truly amazing wathcing progressives cheerlead for a religious extremist to be put in charge of educating children. I'll say this for Ahmed, she's not really  the problem. She didn't hide her beliefs. She makes it very clear her goal is Islamic Supremacy and using the state education system to bring it about:
 ‘The motivation to study engineering would be to aid the development of machinery for Jihad and Allah’s reward for this is immeasurable. The motivation for studying computer technology would be to elevate the Islamic society over all other societies in the world, to show it as a shining example and to produce advanced weaponry for Jihad in order that the deen [Islam] may dominate over all other deens as commanded by the Creator.’

Even those struggling with literacy should be able to understand that.  

And progressives are perfectly happy to have her set education policy, because, like them she hates western culture. There own neuroses and reflexive hatred leads them to  cheerlead  for an Islamic radical to who openly admits her goal is to poison our education system with Islamic supremacy propaganda.  If it were written as a satire  a couple decades ago it would have been dismissed as too far fetched. On the one hand, there is a highly comedic aspect to it, but underneath is tragedy. 

You have converted a jointly credited passage into Ahmed’s personal declaration, a 24-year-old pamphlet into her present program, two small independent schools into the state education system, and an assistant research professor into the person setting British education policy. You have then invented unnamed “progressives” who supposedly support all of it.

Ahmed’s involvement in the 2002 pamphlet and her own separatist writing deserve scrutiny. What has not been established is that she wrote the quoted weaponry passage, still holds those views, controls state education policy, or has been placed “in charge” of educating British children. Those are not facts contained in the evidence. They are the story you constructed around it.

Indeed, the abstract of her 2018 doctoral thesis (Submitted 12/20/2017) says:

This thesis presents an argument for the use of dialogic halaqah to develop the personal autonomy of young Muslims in twenty-first century Britain. It begins by developing a theoretical grounding for Islamic conceptualisations of personal autonomy and dialogic pedagogy. In doing so, it aims to generate dialogue between Islamic and ‘western’ educational traditions, and to clarify the theoretical foundation of halaqah, a traditional Islamic oral pedagogy, that has been adapted to meet the educational needs of Muslim children in contemporary Britain.

And here I thought you were all for religious freedom. /s

The tragedy beneath this is the evidence you buried under your vitriolic rhetoric.


This was written in collaboration with AI. The ideas are derived from the partnership of Me, Myself, and AI.™

 
 
 
CB
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9.3.1  CB  replied to  Thomas @9.3    3 months ago
And here I thought you were all for religious freedom. /s

Nope! MAGA supporters are selfish, self-righteous, and "all-consuming" gluttons of the rights, privileges, and liberties of Others! They 'only' freedom of religion they wish for is for liberals to accept their 'god' and his blond hair and blue-eyes. 

(And let me be clear so as not to unnecessary offend anybody that is a good person to others around them,. . . as far as I know, there is nothing wrong with having blue-eyes (they are gorgeous). . . . I would be lying if I did not add that. . .some-times. . . people with blue-eyes can be some of the most difficult to phantom people. . .in my personal experience, nevertheless. Notice I said: "Some people. . . ')

 
 
 
CB
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10  CB    3 months ago
Ahmed claimed in 2010 that she no longer supports ‘all’ the views of Hizb ut Tahrir, and that she had not recently been involved in the organisation. Approached for comment, however, she did not reply when asked if she still shared the views she expressed in this pamphlet.

. . . And OF COURSE, MAGA supporters do not accept any comment that distracts from its opportunity to 'big foot' a narrative to death. 

Well MAGA supporters here is a thought: How about Cambridge administration 'nipping this alleged 'terrorist' professor  in the bud' before things get too out of hand? They can call it: "Stealing the Thunder"!

 
 

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