Another Day, Another Devastating Day For Donald Trump

  
By:  John Russell  •  2 months ago  •  124 comments


Another Day, Another Devastating Day For Donald Trump
At the end of the hearing today they played a clip of people at the Jan 6th capitol building "protest" saying they were there because the election had been stolen from Trump. These people gave specifics , to a degree, claiming this or that about Dominion or that ballots had been stuffed into suitcases. All of these ideas were refuted today by officials of the Trump administration or campaign. 

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This may have been worse for Trump than even the first night of hearings was. 

Time after time for two hours today we heard from Trump administration officials who testified they told the president there was no voter fraud. Not only told him in general , but refuted point by point specifics of the voter fraud claims. To Trump.  

Former Attorney General Bill Barr testified extensively about how his department investigated alleged voter fraud and couldnt find any. He talked about Dominion, and about the 2000 Mules theory and basically ridiculed them. Barr talked about how he explained these things to Trump , but the truth did not effect Trump. His mind was made up that he would holler "voter fraud" ad infinitum. 

None of the witnesses shown live or on video were Democrats, they were all Republicans , and time after time they testified that the ex-president was wrong and even deluded. 

At the end of the hearing today they played a clip of people at the Jan 6th capitol building "protest" saying they were there because the election had been stolen from Trump. These people gave specifics , to a degree, claiming this or that about Dominion or that ballots had been stuffed into suitcases. All of these ideas were refuted today by officials of the Trump administration or campaign. 

Jan 6th was for nothing , nothing other than feeding Donald Trump's diseased ego. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    2 months ago

One of the witnesses even testified that Rudy Giuliani was drunk at the White House on election night and was urging Trump to declare victory. 

 
 
 
squiggy
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1.1  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 months ago

"At the end of the hearing today they played a clip..."

With all the vignettes and cameos, this looks like any other Academy Award show.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  squiggy @1.1    2 months ago

That is the most significant takeaway for you?

 
 
 
squiggy
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1.1.2  squiggy  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.1    2 months ago

"That is the most significant takeaway for you?"

That was an observation of the format. The substance is simply a restacking of a firewood pile. [deleted]

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  squiggy @1.1.2    2 months ago

You have a presentation of hard evidence and your comment is on the style rather than the content.

It certainly is your right to focus on style over substance but I suspect most people are focused more on the content.     

 
 
 
squiggy
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1.1.4  squiggy  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.3    2 months ago

"It certainly is your right to focus on style..."

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TᵢG
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1.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  squiggy @1.1.4    2 months ago

Your posts blatantly admit that you focused on style over substance: 

Squiggy @1.1With all the vignettes and cameos, this looks like any other Academy Award show.
Squiggy @1.1.2That was an observation of the format.

How stupid do you think NT readers are?

 
 
 
squiggy
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1.1.6  squiggy  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.5    2 months ago

“How stupid do you think NT readers are?”

I offered a comment about the atmosphere of these proceedings. For all your chit chat about logic and science, your conclusions are certainly of the wildest leap.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  squiggy @1.1.6    2 months ago
I offered a comment about the atmosphere of these proceedings.

Yeah, squiggy, that is what I have been saying.   Style over substance.   Your great takeaway was about style.

 
 
 
squiggy
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1.1.8  squiggy  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.7    2 months ago

“Your great takeaway was about style.“

… and that, [deleted,  is called conjecture.]

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  squiggy @1.1.8    2 months ago

How do you imagine that you can flat out deny the words in comments that are still posted in this thread?   Again, you must think NT readers are morons. 


Let's try this, what is your takeaway regarding the content / substance of the presentations thus far?    Not style, substance.

Which evidence has been wrong?    For example, was Trump informed by senior staff / officials that his Big Lie was flat out wrong?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.1.10  igknorantzrulz  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.9    2 months ago

It’s like, I don’t want to insult walls, by saying it is like talking to them, be sides, asz they preach from below thinking they are perched above, but above the normal patience level, is. Required to deal with that which they spiel with such an authoritative uneven keel, asz they reel and keel over and feel, they have put forth an argument worthy of mention, until it is mentioned.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  igknorantzrulz @1.1.10    2 months ago

Four days later my question @1.1.9 to squiggy remains unanswered.    Could not offer a single thoughtful point about content; no indication on evidence that is wrong.

People complain about the Jan 6th committee yet not once have I read a thoughtful response that illustrates the committee's evidence is wrong.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2  1stwarrior    2 months ago

[NO VALUE]

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1  JBB  replied to  1stwarrior @2    2 months ago

What? Do you expect us to ignore Trump's undoing?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @2.1    2 months ago

Some people cant handle the truth. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2.1    2 months ago

You all have been saying that for 4+ years and still have nothing.  

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.1.3  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.2    2 months ago

Define "nothing"

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.3    2 months ago

noth·ing

     pronoun

          not anything; no single thing.

     adjective

          having no prospect of progress; of no value.

     adverb

          not at all.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.1.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.4    2 months ago
 not at all.

is the extent and amount of yours, and ANY others, whom attempt it is, to hide under the covers your definition of proof, because you and they are afraid, of the TRUTH, and the bed Trump had made, cause heand all that still Defend,  FCK ALL of US, and the continued message that which is continued send, all the damn while, is of those that which CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH, and continue to live in Defiled Denial, each and every day, and some aren't as happy as others, and not just because we and they,  B not Gay, but because all of the arguments defending this maniacal society menace, leave not room asz so many try to remain on D Fence, without bearing posts to support, what they long ago should have done abort, for when so much amounts to not a thing, due tell US All, how Trump attempted to allow FREEDUMB TO CONTINUE RING, for he FREEDDUMBED up so damn many, till there was more damn evidence, than any Evidence room could ever hold, N  for this SO damn many, to continue EVER DENSE, has been the most DIFFICULT, for the rest of US to observe, as SO DAMN IMMENCE, has become his and their absent defense, proving they have been over stuffed, over stuff ,so blatant and enough, that not a thing, could ever be the key, that mite allow them to see, watt we herd from the absurd and their ability to B, knot bugged, or ticked off, underthe rugged and licked off 10, as we've never seen so many apparently drugged and kicked off ten, over the no thing they believe they see, cause never knew their were so many definitions, of the know things, that none other could ever know, cause the thing is, people apparently choose not to no thing, after shaking a hand, you know, the hand of thing, unless they know thing, after the high five, yet difficult to see how so many remember to breath, cause it's one thing to remember to breath, and another to remember to stay alive, another thing to wait for Saturday Knight, to arrive all hot and not, not yet on fire, cause the obvious main thing sum desire is to know the thing that means all things know NOTHING, could be so full of it and

over stuffed, over stuff

 that could never be enuff to make them realize

NOTHING

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.2  MrFrost  replied to  1stwarrior @2    2 months ago
Knew it wouldn't take long for John to get his fifth "Trump sux" daily thread going.

If you are following the hearings, even the most die hard trump supporter has to be rattled given the evidence presented.....by trump's own people. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2.1  1stwarrior  replied to  MrFrost @2.2    2 months ago

Sorry Frosty - same same for the past six years - nothing has changed other than the year's date.  Dems just can't get it through their heads that they got their azzes handed to them in 2016 and, like the little children in the sandbox that they are, they also don't know how to say - "OK, it's over - we got real shyte to do, so let's start doing it for the PEOPLE WHO ELECTED US".

Unfortunately for them, though, is that they are going to get their azzes handed to them again and again - but they'll never learn or grow up or learn how to "play nice" and work for the people who elected them and not their lobbyists who want looser regs/laws so they can get mo' money and influence.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.1    2 months ago
azzes handed to them in 2016 and

We are all the way up to 2020 now. Are you saying you cannot accept and get over the 2020 election? That seems to be your argument. Deflect if you must, but the evidence against trump is not just overwhelming, it's impossible to ignore. Bill Barr's testimony alone was devastating. I am just reading now that Trump is accusing his own daughter of perjury. Trump is unraveling by the minute. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @2.2.2    2 months ago
We are all the way up to 2020 now.

And have as much "evidence" now that you had in 2016.  Nothing but wasted time and taxpayer money.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @2.2.2    2 months ago

I was wondering when he'd throw Ivanka under the bus!

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.2.5  MrFrost  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.4    2 months ago

I was wondering when he'd throw Ivanka under the bus!

Yea, I was too, Don Jr. will be next. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.2.6  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.3    2 months ago
And have as much "evidence" now that you had in 2016.

Remind me again when Democrats stormed the capital in 2016? Remind me again who it was that started the, "big lie"? Didn't Hillary concede the election within 24 hours? Yea. When did trump concede the 2020 election? He still hasn't, he's still out there spreading his big lie. Didn't he lose 61 of 62 court cases? Or was that Hillary? 

Again, we're talking about 2020. Focus and get help with the CDS. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2.7  1stwarrior  replied to  MrFrost @2.2.6    2 months ago

384

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.2.8  MrFrost  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.7    2 months ago

But but but.....Whatabout......

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.1    2 months ago
same same for the past six years

Six years ago dirty Donald was just a piece of shit fraud, liar and serial adulterer. Then he convinced a bunch of gullible, stupid, poorly educated religious conservatives to empower him telling them all the things they wanted to hear.

Since then we got a President who spent half a million paying off porn whores to keep quiet about his illicit affairs with them during the campaign, lied about the numerous contacts he and his staff had with Russian agents, had an enemy foreign government support his campaign as they hacked private email servers on his behalf, spent millions on surreptitious ads and social media campaigns to help him win the Presidency, disrespected gold star families, called Mexicans "rapists" and "criminals", extorted a foreign government for dirt on his political opponents, "fell in love" with the vile authoritarian murderer Kim Jong Un, praised another authoritarian murderer calling him a "genius", called Nazi's and white supremacists "very fine people", tried to institute a Muslim ban, tried to trade Puerto Rico, which he bigotedly called "dirty and poor", for Greenland, lied about voter fraud in 2016 falsely claiming the 3 million + more votes Hillary got were from "illegals", had his charity fined for millions and shut down due to fraud and misuse of funds, called John McCain, an obvious war hero who suffered torture while defending America, a "loser", suggested, with zero evidence, that vaccines cause autism, fired the pandemic response unit created by Obama after Ebola, unilaterally revealed classified information from our allies to a Russian agent, ended a humanitarian program that had allowed almost 60,000 Haitians to reside and work in the U.S as their country was still trying to recover from a devastating earthquake, cut inheritances taxes that would specifically benefit his family and heirs, referred to Haiti and African ally nations as "shit hole" countries, accused Democrats of "treason" when they didn't applaud his State of the Union address, then lied to his supporters about fictional voter fraud and inspired his mindless worthless piss ant racist hordes to attack our nations capital in an attempt to subvert a free and fair election and install him as a fascist dictator.

So no, I don't think it's been the "same same" for the past six years. The only ones believing that horse shit have their heads shoved so far up Trumps ass his shriveled balls are resting on their belt buckles.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @2.2.8    2 months ago

You want to go after rioters then 1stwarrior has a valid point.  But the difference is that the Democrats supported the rioters that looted and burned Seattle, Portland and Minneapolis.  That's why there is no investigation into them.  They didn't support the Jan 6 protest so now we have this shit show.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.2.11  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.10    2 months ago
You want to go after rioters then 1stwarrior has a valid point.  

Actually, NO he doesn't.

But the difference is that the Democrats supported the rioters that looted and burned Seattle, Portland and Minneapolis. 

Bullshit. 

That's why there is no investigation into them. 

The FACTS refute your claim. Thousands of people were arrested. Arsonists and looters were prosecuted and incarcerated. 

They didn't support the Jan 6 protest so now we have this shit show.

More bullshit. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @2.2.11    2 months ago
Thousands of people were arrested.

How many prosecuted and are still in jail?

Arsonists and looters were prosecuted and incarcerated. 

How many? It helps your case if you cite your "source".

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.13  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @2.2.11    2 months ago
Thousands of people were arrested. Arsonists and looters were prosecuted and incarcerated. 

You're going to have to do better than just a statement.  You going to provide a link or do we consider this just more rambling?

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.2.14  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2.12    2 months ago
How many prosecuted and are still in jail?

Are you agreeing that thousands were arrested? 

How many?

How many acts of arson and looting were there? 

It helps your case if you cite your "source".

Ditto. I don't see you posting sources for any of the statements you made Jim.

In particular, I would like to see your source for your claim that Democrats supported arsonists and looters. 

Please proceed. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.15  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @2.2.14    2 months ago
Are you agreeing that thousands were arrested? 

Yep no doubt. How many were detained more than overnight?

I don't see you posting sources for any of the statements you made Jim.

More than likely that is because asking a fucking question of you doesn't need a source.

I would like to see your source for your claim that Democrats supported arsonists and looters. 

You have me confused with someone else. I didn't claim that.

Nice try though

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2.16  1stwarrior  replied to  MrFrost @2.2.2    2 months ago

Frostie - to me, this has nothing to do with the "election".  It has to do with the open and intentional lying by the so-called "leaders" of the Dem/Lib/Repub parties to the people who voted/placed them in an office(s) of responsibility.  Neither party has shown/is showing ANY concern for their constituents - but - "by gawd" - damage to the "party" is tantamount. 

Both parties are/have gotten their fingers/hands caught in the cookie jar and now, AT THE EXPENSE OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS, they are having a Jr. High School "Show'n'tell" to prove who's got the bigger "pee-pee" and have almost totally forgotten why they were elected and by whom.

Yes, there are some good folks on both sides of the aisle, but they, unfortunately, have some really pizz poor leaders/managers.

That's my argument.

BTW - you get a new "furr-ball" yet?

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.2.17  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.13    2 months ago

Why? You and yours make statements without sources all the time.

Y'all have done so right here in this thread.

So, WHY do I need to provide a link? 

[NO VALUE]

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2.18  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @2.2.14    2 months ago

"Oh please, please, please - don't make me have to actually DISCUSS something"

Links?  Heaven forbid.

Brass - got plenty of that - facts - not much/many.

Since you have hit your "attack" mode, I think you're starting to find that not a lot of readers want to participate with you.

Like the old saying - "Alka Seltzer - relief is just two drops away".

My recommendation (and that's all it is) to you is "maybe" if you played nicer occasionally, you wouldn't get so many riled up readers.

"Nice" is in your vocabulary, right?

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.2.19  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2.15    2 months ago
Yep no doubt. How many were detained more than overnight?

I have no idea. The fact that they were arrested indicates that there is NO NEED for a 'manhunt'. 

More than likely that is because asking a fucking question of you doesn't need a source.

You have me confused with someone else. I didn't claim that.

Nice try though

You're right. Just because y'all are thumbs up buddies doesn't mean you're interchangeable. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.20  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Dulay @2.2.17    2 months ago
Why? You and yours make statements without sources all the time.

Y'all have done so right here in this thread.

So, WHY do I need to provide a link? 

BTW, I don't give a fuck how you consider my comments. Who else do you pretend to speak for? 

To a large extent, many of the right wingers on this site do little but "ask questions". Asking questions, for them, takes the place of finding sources and posting links or quotes. There is more than a little laziness there. 

But there is a better reason for them to constantly ask questions. You can always claim the question wasnt answered and so you get to repeat the question all over again. 

And of course, constantly asking questions can create the illusion of intelligence. 

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.2.21  Veronica  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.18    2 months ago

stones, glass houses

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.22  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.20    2 months ago

Their "asking questions" don't amount to nothing more than trolling, especially when they keep asking the same question expecting a different answer. isn't that the definition of insanity?

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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2.2.23  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.10    2 months ago

Seems like neither you nor 1st Warrior know the difference between federal and state charges.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @2.2.17    2 months ago

So it is just endless blathering from you.  Nothing out of the norm.

Don't forget to flag the requests for a link and tag it "Trolling".

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.25  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.23    2 months ago

Seem you don't know what hypocrisy is.  When you learn to identify it come back.

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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2.2.26  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.25    2 months ago

Yes, I know what hypocrisy is (maybe you don't since you don't know charges were brought against summer rioters and January 6th rioters, and that I approve of both sets of rioters being charged so no hypocrisy here) and I also know the difference between state charges which is where the summer rioters where charged and federal charges which is where the January 6th rioters were charged.  So, no, I'll stay here and point out your hypocrisy and your idiocy. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2.27  1stwarrior  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.23    2 months ago

Clarity would be nice - Fed/State charges for what?  I never mentioned either on such a nebulous topic.

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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2.2.28  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.27    2 months ago

Read 2.2.26

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2.29  1stwarrior  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.28    2 months ago

Posted AFTER 2.2.23.

BTW - "some" of the rioters were charged under Fed law for wilful destruction of Fed property in those large cities and for "threatening" Fed employees who were performing their jobs.  Many of the rioters were released due to lack of manpower of the cities/states to continue with potentially prosecuting the offenders.

Oh - and another BTW - they weren't "Summer rioters" unless Thanksgiving/Christmas/Easter are now considered summer in your neck of the woods.

Your "summer rioters" operated for 18 months - Jan 6 occurred for ONE DAY - YUGE difference and has no separation as to whether or not Feds/States charges are/were pursued.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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2.2.30  al Jizzerror  replied to  Dulay @2.2.11    2 months ago

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Wishful_thinkin
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2.2.31  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.29    2 months ago

I refer to them as the "summer rioter" since that is what the Conservatives have called them.  I've also seen the conservatives call it the "summer of love".  So, I'm just calling it what the conservatives have typically referred to it as and will continue to do so despite what you "think" I should call them.  The "summer rioters" were not an attack on our nation and constitution like the "ONE DAY" January 6th riot where the rioters were trying to stop a constitutionally mandated certification of our election and attacked our national Capitol building, and yes, a majority of the "summer rioters" were charged on state charges, not federal.  

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.2.32  Veronica  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.31    2 months ago
I refer to them as the "summer rioter" since that is what the Conservatives have called them. 

He will never admit it was THEIR choice of monikers.  BECAUSE he & his are NEVER WRONG.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2.33  1stwarrior  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.31    2 months ago

Read and learn

.

Feds/States.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2.34  1stwarrior  replied to  Veronica @2.2.32    2 months ago

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Veronica
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2.2.35  Veronica  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.34    2 months ago

FUCK OFF!!!

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.2.36  Veronica  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.34    2 months ago

Oh And by the FUCKING way... we all know you don't like John's seeds because it points out HOW stupid you all were for supporting that piece of shit.  [NO VALUE]

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.2.37  Veronica  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.34    2 months ago

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Wishful_thinkin
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2.2.38  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.33    2 months ago

Yes, I know the difference between Federal and State charges.  I work for lawyers so I know more about law than you ever will.  

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.2.39  Veronica  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.38    2 months ago

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1stwarrior
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2.2.40  1stwarrior  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.38    2 months ago

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JohnRussell
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2.2.42  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Veronica @2.2.35    2 months ago

Note to flagger -

According to Perrie, fuck off is allowed as long as it is not overused. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.2.43  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.18    2 months ago
"Oh please, please, please - don't make me have to actually DISCUSS something"

Is someone trying to force you to have a discussion 1st? 

Links?  Heaven forbid. Brass - got plenty of that - facts - not much/many.

WTF are you babbling about? 

Since you have hit your "attack" mode, I think you're starting to find that not a lot of readers want to participate with you.

Like the old saying - "Alka Seltzer - relief is just two drops away".

My recommendation (and that's all it is) to you is "maybe" if you played nicer occasionally, you wouldn't get so many riled up readers.

I could not care less how many readers want to participate with me OR how many get 'riled up'. 

"Nice" is in your vocabulary, right?

Yes. 

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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2.2.44  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.40    2 months ago

I'll "go" wherever I want, and I don't care what you think you know. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2.45  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @2.2.43    2 months ago

No Dulay - no one is "trying to force me to have a discussion".  What many of us are trying to do is to get you to "have a discussion" without all of the dissection of their sources/topics/authors - just discuss the topic and quit telling folks how wrong they are and how "stupid" their opinions are.

Listen to them and learn - works both ways.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.2.46  Dulay  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.20    2 months ago

John, while I applaud your new found moderating skills, I have to point out that I'm pretty sure it's verboten to block quote my comment and then delete part of it. 

BTW, I agree with your comment. 

I'll add that this 'provide a source' bullshit from those who post unsubstantiated proclamations ad nauseam is the height of hypocrisy.  

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
2.2.47  1stwarrior  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.44    2 months ago

Spent 33 years doing it - guess I know/knew something 'bout the law - but, that was/is Federal Indian Law - huge difference.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
2.2.48  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @2.2.46    2 months ago

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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.49  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Dulay @2.2.46    2 months ago

I deleted the part of your comment that I deemed to be a violation. Unless I am mistaken, this is something all the moderators do at times. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
2.2.50  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.24    2 months ago
So it is just endless blathering from you.  Nothing out of the norm.

Actually, my I asked relevant questions Jeremy. Got any answers? 

Don't forget to flag the requests for a link and tag it "Trolling".

Though you cannot see whether your comments were flagged, you can ask your thumbs up buddy to confirm that NONE of your comments to me were flagged. 

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
Freshman Silent
2.2.51  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.47    2 months ago

So you know federal indian law, good for you. That means nothing on this discussion.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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2.2.52  al Jizzerror  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.42    2 months ago

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al Jizzerror
Sophomore Expert
2.2.53  al Jizzerror  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.42    2 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.54  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @2.2.50    2 months ago
Actually, my I asked relevant questions Jeremy. Got any answers?

As a releveant question and I'll answer.  But, first, you can start by answering my question in 2.2.13  

Though you cannot see whether your comments were flagged, you can ask your thumbs up buddy to confirm that NONE of your comments to me were flagged. 

It's not hard to figure out who flags a comment.  Especially on a TDS driven article like this one.  

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
2.2.55  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.13    2 months ago

Who are this 'we' you pretend to speak for Jeremy? 

Perhaps you and yours should just recognize that I invest the time it takes to be informed instead of asking others to hold my hand and do research for me. 

A Year of Racial Justice Protests: Key Trends in Demonstrations Supporting the BLM Movement (acleddata.com)

Portland Protester Sentenced to 15 Months for Arson | Oregon News | US News

Judge calls man who torched police station 'a good person who made a terrible mistake' (nypost.com)

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
2.2.56  Dulay  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.49    2 months ago
I deleted the part of your comment that I deemed to be a violation. Unless I am mistaken, this is something all the moderators do at times. 

Cite mods CANNOT comment on threads that they moderate John. As the author of the seed, YOU can. So, you are comparing apples and oranges. 

Once you chose to reply to my comment AND block quote it in full, it's BAD FORM to go back and delete part of it. Just fess up and do better John. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.57  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.2.56    2 months ago

She's right on that John.  You thought the group thing was going to be a solution?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
2.2.58  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.54    2 months ago
As a releveant question and I'll answer. 

I have, you haven't. 

But, first, you can start by answering my question in 2.2.13  

Again, I have by noting that you hold yourself to a different standard. 

It's not hard to figure out who flags a comment.  Especially on a TDS driven article like this one.  

Irrelevant babbling since NONE of your comments were flagged, were they Jeremy? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.59  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Dulay @2.2.56    2 months ago

Dont comment to me in public about how you perceive my behavior on this forum. If you continue I will flag you. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.60  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.57    2 months ago

Fuck off. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
2.2.61  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.57    2 months ago

Why are you asking John a question in a reply to me Vic? 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
2.2.62  Dulay  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.59    2 months ago
Dont comment to me in public about how you perceive my behavior on this forum.

You did just that in your comment John. 

Oh, and BTFW, refrain from trying to tell me where and what to post. 

If you continue I will flag you.

Flag away John. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.63  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Dulay @2.2.62    2 months ago
Oh, and BTFW, refrain from trying to tell me where and what to post. 

lol. when have i told you what to post? 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
2.2.64  Dulay  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.63    2 months ago
lol. when have i told you what to post? 

You told me what NOT to post. READ your prior post slowly John:

Dont comment to me in public about how you perceive my behavior on this forum.
 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
2.4  1stwarrior  replied to  1stwarrior @2    2 months ago

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Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  1stwarrior @2    2 months ago

You don't have to come on his seeds ya know.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
2.5.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.5    2 months ago

Good message for many to follow, eh?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
2.5.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.5    2 months ago
You don't have to come on his seeds ya know.

Perhaps these fact filled seeds are the only thing that can get a conservative off...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.5.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.5.2    2 months ago

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Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.5.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  1stwarrior @2.5.1    2 months ago

You don't see me going to other people's seeds to criticize the content

 
 
 
Veronica
Masters Expert
2.5.5  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.5.4    2 months ago

It is amazing how they think we do the same shit as them.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.5.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @2.5.5    2 months ago

It's how they transfer their guilt

 
 
 
Veronica
Masters Expert
2.5.7  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.5.6    2 months ago

Yep... still amazes me.  

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
2.5.8  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.5.4    2 months ago

Yeah - guess members aren't really supposed to care 'bout what's posted, eh?  Just let the shyte flow.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
2.5.9  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.5.6    2 months ago

You're gonna hafta get away from that mirror Trout.  'Member - your standards aren't what others live by.

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1stwarrior
Professor Guide
2.5.10  1stwarrior  replied to  Veronica @2.5.5    2 months ago

Oops - is this a "them" vs "they" day for you???

Everybody does the same defensive actions - 'member yours?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.5.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  1stwarrior @2.5.8    2 months ago

You take things to an extreme. I don't know why you insist on playing hall monitor. Who cares what you think about what others seed? I only care that you constantly critical without actually contributing

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.5.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  1stwarrior @2.5.9    2 months ago
You're gonna hafta get away from that mirror Trout. 

That's a really rude fucking thing to say. And your superior attitude is a huge turnoff.

Fuck off

 
 
 
Veronica
Masters Expert
2.5.13  Veronica  replied to  1stwarrior @2.5.10    2 months ago

That is the way you take my comment.  It was written very clearly.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
2.5.14  1stwarrior  replied to  Veronica @2.5.13    2 months ago

"It is amazing how they think we do the same shit as them."

You're right - They - Them - pretty clear.

 
 
 
Veronica
Masters Expert
2.5.15  Veronica  replied to  1stwarrior @2.5.14    2 months ago

I didn't state who they are or who we are - that is your assumption.  

I was simply pointing out that you condemned Trout for something YOU do,  not for something she does - but you will never get it because you will never admit YOU ARE WRONG in your assumption of Trout.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
2.5.16  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.5.11    2 months ago

No I don't take things to an extreme Trout on the majority of things.  Native American things - you're damn right I do. 

Political BS - you are given no choice on NT - either you hate the message and know of no other way to express it, such as a few posters do with their constant hate ridden threads/seeds, or you are like some of use who "try" to get the pendulum back to where it belongs - the middle.

And, yes, I DO contribute (somewhere in the neighborhood of over 150 threads/seeds/articles) and you've actually commented on some of my "contributions".

But, I also noticed that you have made no contribution to this thread other than - "out of the blue" - jumping in to tell me how wrong I am 'bout something.

How 'bout discussing the thread/seed - I will do the same.

My opinion of the seed?  It sux 'cause it's full of shyte/bias/prejudice and nothing more than the continuous hate speech of the seeder.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.5.17  Trout Giggles  impassed  1stwarrior @2.5.16    2 months ago
 
 
 
Veronica
Masters Expert
2.5.18  Veronica  replied to  1stwarrior @2.5.16    2 months ago
It sux 'cause it's full of shyte/bias/prejudice and nothing more than the continuous hate speech of the seeder.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Not like any of the BULLSHIT "conservative" hate crap seeds posted here daily.  

***** conservative is in quotes because NONE of the asses here claiming to be conservative are truly conservatives.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
2.5.19  1stwarrior  replied to  Veronica @2.5.18    2 months ago

I know - right?

Conservatives/Progressives/Liberals - no one knows who/what/why they are - they just are.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.5.20  author  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @2.5.16    2 months ago
My opinion of the seed?  It sux 'cause it's full of shyte/bias/prejudice and nothing more than the continuous hate speech of the seeder.

In all seriousness you dont have a leg to stand on. The Jan 6th hearings have been big national news for the past week. We are FINALLY seeing a reckoning imposed on the lies of Trump and his MAGA that have been inflicted on this country since Nov3 2020. We are way past enough is enough. 

There is nothing non- factual in the article at the top. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  author  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Some people thought the committee would come up short. That is far from the case. The evidence against trump is overwhelming. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Principal
3.1  MrFrost  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 months ago
The evidence against trump is overwhelming. 

True, even though it's all evidence we already knew about. Those on the right are surly shocked because it's all new to them...the downside of listening to right wing fake news. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  MrFrost @3.1    2 months ago

You're probably right. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
3.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
3.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 months ago
Some people thought the committee would come up short

and they didn't disappoint.  They've come up short from the start of committee selection.

 
 
 
Hallux
Junior Principal
4  Hallux    2 months ago

I understand FOX broke down and aired the proceedings today ... best guess is they are about to dump Trump and jump in front of the DeSantis chumpcar race.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4.1  Ender  replied to  Hallux @4    2 months ago

I read an article that some trump advisors were saying now he wants to kick off his campaign in Florida as a slap on the face to DeSantis.

 
 
 
Hallux
Junior Principal
4.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Ender @4.1    2 months ago

Alien versus Predator: Mar-a-Lago. It's bound to be a hit and run away.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @4.1    2 months ago

This ought to be fun

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @4.1.1    2 months ago

That's Mar-A-Lardo

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
4.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @4    2 months ago
 "... best guess is they are about to dump Trump and jump in front of the DeSantis race."
Yep...time for them to ignore Trump the Chump

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
4.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Hallux @4    2 months ago
best guess is they are about to dump Trump and jump in front of the DeSantis chumpcar race.

DeSantis can't keep the straight face long enough while lying through his teeth. He'll try, but conservatives know that no one can lie like their beloved Mango Mussolini. Only Trump can deny, deny, deny the way these conservatives demand so that they can cling to their fantasy of being morally, racially and religiously superior.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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4.3.1  al Jizzerror  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.3    2 months ago

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al Jizzerror
Sophomore Expert
5  al Jizzerror    2 months ago

Every fucking witness was a Retrumplican.  They ALL informed Trump that there was no fraud and the election was fair and he lost.

It's kinda like when a corporation does illegal shit and the CEO pretends he wasn't aware of the crimes.  But then everyone who works for him testifies that they informed him of the criminal behavior.  The CEO should be held culpable.

Rick Scott

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In 1987, after serving in the United States Navy and becoming a law firm partner, he co-founded Columbia Hospital Corporation . Columbia later merged with another corporation to form Columbia/HCA , which eventually became the nation's largest private for-profit health care company. [6] Scott was pressured to resign as chief executive of Columbia/HCA in 1997. During his tenure as chief executive, the company defrauded Medicare, Medicaid and other federal programs. The Department of Justice ultimately fined the company $1.7 billion in what was at the time the largest health care fraud settlement in U.S. history.

Rick Scott is now a Republican Senator.  He pretended he did not know about the fraud.

During his 2010 race, the Miami Herald reported that Scott had said he would have immediately stopped his company from committing fraud -- if only "somebody told me something was wrong." But there were such warnings in the company’s annual public reports to stockholders -- which Scott had to sign as president and CEO.

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
6  freepress    2 months ago

How anyone could be duped by the biggest grifter of all time and give him money is beyond comprehension. He used his supporters like a dirty rag forever smearing them with his lies and taking their money for his own pocket. He never really spent much and lost over 60 lawsuits because there was no fraud. Except for his own fraud bilking his own supporters.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Sophomore Expert
6.1  al Jizzerror  replied to  freepress @6    2 months ago
How anyone could be duped by the biggest grifter of all time and give him money is beyond comprehension.

Yep.

384

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7  author  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Another article ruined. 

LOCKED

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Guide
8  Paula Bartholomew    2 months ago

Blah blah fucking blah.  Nothing is going to happen to Trump and it never will.

 
 

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