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Trump team eyes Nov 14 for 2024 presidential bid announcement - Axios | Reuters

  
Via:  John Russell  •  4 years ago  •  60 comments

By:   Akanksha Khushi (Reuters)

Trump team eyes Nov 14 for 2024 presidential bid announcement - Axios | Reuters
Former U.S. President Donald Trump's inner circle is discussing announcing the launch of a 2024 presidential campaign on Nov 14, Axios reported on Friday, citing three sources familiar with the discussions.

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Nov 4 (Reuters) - Former U.S. President Donald Trump's inner circle is discussing announcing the launch of a 2024 presidential campaign on Nov 14, Axios reported on Friday, citing three sources familiar with the discussions.

Trump teased a strong possibility of a comeback during a rally in Iowa on Thursday.

"And now, in order to make our country successful and safe and glorious, I will very, very, very probably do it again," the former president said during the rally on Thursday night, teasing a 2024 bid.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 years ago

We are about to find out whether the media in this country is worth a damn. He should be hounded, and those who are pushing for this should be hounded , from now until 2024. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2  1stwarrior    4 years ago

Worst friggin' mistake he could make.  We don't need the shyte going on in the U.S. anymore.

He and Biden both need to be locked up in the loony bin.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  1stwarrior @2    4 years ago

At least somebody convinced Trump not to make such an announcement before the midterm election.

The media would practically have him on the ballot.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    4 years ago

Trump has been "hinting" that he is running for so long now it is hard to imagine how he could back down now. 

For years some people , here and elsewhere, having been trying to argue that Trump is washed up, is no factor, is yesterdays news, is meaningless, etc, and now we know the actual fact. He will run and he will get the GOP nomination. Then what are you going to do? 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 years ago
Trump has been "hinting" that he is running for so long now it is hard to imagine how he could back down now. 

That's how he keeps the money coming in.  As long as he keeps "hinting" at it, the sheeple throw him their money.

He will run and he will get the GOP nomination. Then what are you going to do?

They will continue to back him with money, lies, and stonewalling.  Just like they have been doing since 2016.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4  Greg Jones    4 years ago

"He will run and he will get the GOP nomination. Then what are you going to do?"

He might run, but he won't get the nomination. You're sadly confused about his popularity with most Americans, and his die hard election denier base lacks the numbers.

Expect DeSantis to announce by years end..

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @4    4 years ago
You're sadly confused about his popularity with most Americans, and his die hard election denier base lacks the numbers.

Roe v Wade decision was very popular and supported amongst most Americans.  That didn't stop the GOP from ignoring their constituents then, why would they listen to them now?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1    4 years ago
Roe v Wade decision was very popular and supported amongst most Americans.  That didn't stop the GOP from ignoring their constituents then, why would they listen to them now?

The pendulum was being deliberately held back.  It shouldn't be surprising that when that pendulum was released, it swung too far.

Late term abortion is going to be banned.  Early term abortion is going to be allowed.  Now the political fight is going to be over the cut-off point.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.1    4 years ago
The pendulum was being deliberately held back.  It shouldn't be surprising that when that pendulum was released, it swung too far.

That makes no sense.  Are you talking a pendulum as far as human rights?  And the GOP will swing the other way taking away even more human rights?

Late term abortion is going to be banned.

Late term abortions only occur due to medical conditions that adversely effect the health of the mother.  So the GOP is going to require both the fetus and the pregnant mother to die, rather than just one of them?  Okay.

Early term abortion is going to be allowed.

Early term abortion has already been outlawed in many republican states, and will be outlawed in more before this is over.  Your statement is blatantly false.

Now the political fight is going to be over the cut-off point.

Not when they are just cutting it off with no exceptions, like they are doing right now.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.2    4 years ago
And the GOP will swing the other way taking away even more human rights?

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif   And exactly what human rights has anybody lost?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1    4 years ago
"Roe v Wade decision was very popular and supported amongst most Americans." 
Late term abortion has never been supported by most Americans.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.1.5  Nerm_L  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.2    4 years ago
Late term abortions only occur due to medical conditions that adversely effect the health of the mother.  So the GOP is going to require both the fetus and the pregnant mother to die, rather than just one of them?  Okay.

Then a ban on elective late term abortions would be easy for Democrats to accept.  Democrats only need to defend medically necessary late term abortions.  But, then, if a woman's life can be saved by delivering the infant then Democrats' argument would be rather weak.

Early term abortion has already been outlawed in many republican states, and will be outlawed in more before this is over.  Your statement is blatantly false.

Yes, the political pendulum has swung too far.  We haven't gone through any election cycles to bring that political pendulum back.  Democrats are using hair-on-fire political rhetoric to bring back their extreme position which isn't going to happen.

Not when they are just cutting it off with no exceptions, like they are doing right now.

How many election cycles have there been?  A lot of these stringent prohibitions were the result of political opposition to Democrats' extreme political position.  Why is it surprising the political pendulum swung too far when the obstacle of Democrats' extreme position was removed?

We aren't going back to the way it was.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.1.6  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.3    4 years ago
And exactly what human rights has anybody lost?

Well, women in some GOP states have lost the rights to their own body, and can be forced to undergo potentially deadly physical actions.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.1.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.4    4 years ago
Late term abortion has never been supported by most Americans.

It was when it was used to save the life of the pregnant mother, which is the only time late term abortions were used.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.1.8  Ozzwald  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.5    4 years ago
Then a ban on elective late term abortions would be easy for Democrats to accept.

Except the bans being imposed do not include exceptions to save the life of the mother, or for rapes.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.7    4 years ago
ich is the only time late term abortions were used.

Lol.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.6    4 years ago

So given you half assed answer; your answer is None.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @4    4 years ago

Trump will not take no for an answer and the Republicans dont know how to tell him no. He will be the nominee. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2    4 years ago
Trump will not take no for an answer and the Republicans dont know how to tell him no. He will be the nominee. 

MAGA has legs in the Republican Party.  Republicans are not going to give up the idea of MAGA.  It's an inflection point that indicates a shift in the Republican Party away from establishment Reagan politics.

The 2024 Republican primaries will be about turning the idea of MAGA into a policy agenda.  Trump isn't a policy wonk so Trump is at a disadvantage.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @4.2.1    4 years ago

The fact that you think right wing policy wonks can manipulate Trumps popularity is hilarious. 

All Trump needs is 30% of the GOP primary vote (with multiple candidates).  If he can get that in state after state in the early primaries he is the winner. 

MAGA devoted to him is at least 30% of GOP primary voters. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.2.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.2    4 years ago

"MAGA devoted to him is at least 30% of GOP primary voters"

Got a source for this misinformation?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.2.4  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.2    4 years ago
The fact that you think right wing policy wonks can manipulate Trumps popularity is hilarious. 

Republican policy wonks are going to be using Trump's popularity to create a political agenda.  

All Trump needs is 30% of the GOP primary vote (with multiple candidates).  If he can get that in state after state in the early primaries he is the winner. 

Which may not be that easy in a field of MAGA candidates.  Right now it's doubtful Trump could beat someone like Kari Lake or Ron DeSantis.  MAGA is going mainstream in the Republican Party.  Getting rid of Trump won't get rid of MAGA.

Biden acknowledges that with his mega-MAGA hyperbole.  But Biden (and Democrats) don't offer a better alternative.  

 
 
 
Ender
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4.3  Ender  replied to  Greg Jones @4    4 years ago

You actually think he would pull a Sarah Palin?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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5  Nerm_L    4 years ago

Trump won't make it this time.  But Trump has to run to prevent Republican backsliding.  The 2024 Republican primaries will be a passing of the MAGA torch.  Whoever wins the 2024 Republican nomination will transform MAGA into a policy agenda.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.1  Ender  replied to  Nerm_L @5    4 years ago

I have to ask, what is the maga policy agenda?

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
6  squiggy    4 years ago

Trump would be a Bernie Sanders - gets to see his name in lights, keep his issues in the open and his dream alive - but there isn't going to be serious traction. There needs to be some counterweight to the current airhead.

 
 
 
JBB
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7  JBB    4 years ago

If Trump runs he insures that Biden wins a second term...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @7    4 years ago

Exactly what is Biden's platform?  Keeping inflation down?  How about low gas prices?  What about the Afghanistan retreat?  Oh, I know - slowing illegal immigration and securing the borders!

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.1  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1    4 years ago

How are republicans going to keep inflation or gas prices down?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @7.1.1    4 years ago
How are republicans going to keep inflation or gas prices down?

That's easy.  Look at everything the Democrats are doing - and do the opposite.

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.3  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.2    4 years ago

So no plan, gotcha.

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.5  Ender  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.4    4 years ago

I swear, just yell and scream about everything while offering no plans.

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.8  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.7    4 years ago

So again, no plan...

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.10  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.9    4 years ago

So for a third time, no plan, just deflection.

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.12  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.11    4 years ago

For a forth time, no plan at al....

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.14  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.13    4 years ago

Wtf....you show some link that doesn't even say what you did.

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.16  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.15    4 years ago

So your only answer is they are going to cut spending. Since we know they are going to get the house, I guess we will see.

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.18  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.17    4 years ago

I don't think anyone has cut the budget since Clinton.

 
 
 
George
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7.1.21  George  replied to  Ender @7.1.18    4 years ago
1993 $842.401 $1,142.799 -$300.398
1994 $923.541 $1,182.380 -$258.840
1995 $1,000.711 $1,227.078 -$226.367
1996 $1,085.561 $1,259.580 -$174.019
1997 $1,187.242 $1,290.490 -$103.248
1998 $1,305.929 $1,335.854 -$29.925
1999 $1,382.984 $1,381.064 $1.920
2000 $1,544.607 $1,458.185 $86.422
2001 $1,483.563 $1,516.008 -$32.445

The middle column is spending, ie budget, which year again did Clinton cut the Budget?

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.22  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.20    4 years ago

Invoke?   Hahaha

Omg. So only one administration had really managed to cut the budget, yes with republicans, so I have no idea what you are complaining about now.

If they can manage to do it in a sensible way, more power to them.

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.23  Ender  replied to  George @7.1.21    4 years ago

You should link to where you got your numbers from.

So according to that, not one single president or congress was able to cut the budget.

 
 
 
George
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7.1.25  George  replied to  Ender @7.1.23    4 years ago

You made the claim: "I don't think anyone has cut the budget since Clinton." 

Post your proof or accept mine that you are wrong!

So according to that, not one single president or congress was able to cut the budget.

This shows a lack of critical thinking, 8 years of data and you extrapolate it to all presidents?

Here's a drop,

1919 $5.130 $18.493 -$13.363
1920 $6.649 $6.358

$0.291

And some more,

1942 $13.738 $35.071 -$21.333
1943 $22.871 $78.466 -$55.595
1944 $42.455 $91.190 -$48.735
1945 $43.849 $92.569 -$48.720
1946 $38.057 $55.022 -$16.964
1947 $37.055 $34.193 $2.861
1948 $39.944 $29.396 $10.548

Do you know who didn't cut the budget? Clinton!

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.26  Ender  replied to  George @7.1.25    4 years ago

I will accept your proof if you can link to where you got the numbers. I will admit I was wrong about the budget. I am not that petty.

I can write numbers myself...

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
7.1.27  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.24    4 years ago

Imo the only thing that can combat inflation is stability.

I don't think either side has a plan and I think any scheme to say one certain thing would help is disingenuous. 

But I admit I am no economist.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
7.1.30  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.28    4 years ago

Point being, massive spending has not stopped by either side.

I guess you conveniently gloss over where I stated if they could do it, in a sensible way, I would be for it.

Economists say a lot of things. Spending is not the sole reason for inflation.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.32  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ender @7.1.26    4 years ago

Past Congressional and Presidential Budget performance is increasingly irrelevant to future budgets.

In 2019, Entitlement spending was 56% and debt interest 8.4%.  COVID spending in 2020, 2021 temporarily skewed those numbers but when back on track for higher entitlement and interest spending that neither Congress or the President controls.

 
 

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