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Trump , DeSantis Bickering Over Which One Of Them God Anointed To Rule America

  
By:  John Russell  •  4 years ago  •  29 comments


Trump , DeSantis Bickering Over Which One Of Them God Anointed To Rule America
 

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Maybe we can have these two "Christians " thrown to the lions. 




"Trump knows that his base believes God anointed him to lead America at a critical juncture, and that many of them believe him to be a messianic figure who alone can rescue America from what they call demonic forces (liberalism, civil rights, 'deep state,' and more)," Posner told the Post columnist Greg Sargent. "None of Trump’s potential rivals have so blatantly tried to claim that divine blessing."

Ron DeSantis sending ‘very dangerous sign’ to GOP voters — and Trump’s worried: religious scholar (msn.com)

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Imagine Trump saying he is holier than another human being. He may be struck blind for that blasphemy, or he may get all the Christian nationalist votes, depending on what kind of mood God is in and what kind of sense of sick humor he has. 

DeSantis is trying to pull the prayer cloth out from under Trump, which may require an earth mover. If you were wondering why Trump pegged Desantis as "Ron DeSanctimonious " now you know. 

I think they should debate Bible knowledge on a stage with the backdrop of a child riding a dinosaur. Of course Trump doesnt know any of the answers, since he has never read the Bible in his life, but he can fake it. He'll probably win the debate as a matter of fact.

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Ron DeSantis sending ‘very dangerous sign’ to GOP voters — and Trump’s worried: religious scholar


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By Travis Gettys

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is overtly courting Christian nationalist voters, and Donald Trump lashed out at his most likely GOP challenger.

The Florida governor released a new video presenting him as a savior anointed by God to save the country, which the former president perceived as a direct threat to his grip over right-wing evangelical voters -- and historian Sarah Posner   told the Washington Post   that Trump was right to be concerned.

"Trump knows that his base believes God anointed him to lead America at a critical juncture, and that many of them believe him to be a messianic figure who alone can rescue America from what they call demonic forces (liberalism, civil rights, 'deep state,' and more)," Posner told the Post columnist Greg Sargent. "None of Trump’s potential rivals have so blatantly tried to claim that divine blessing."

"It’s a very dangerous sign that DeSantis is reading the base — which has been bombarded with ever more radical claims of anointings, prophecy and spiritual warfare against the left — as receptive to savior alternatives to Trump," she added.


"The video is a prime example," said Posner, a historical scholar of the religious right. "DeSantis   has also used   a revealing misquote from the Bible, calling on supporters to 'put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the left’s schemes.'"

"The 'armor of God” quote actually reads, 'take your stand against the   devil’s   schemes,'" Posner added. "He substitutes 'the left' for 'the devil,' demonstrating to his base that he, like them, will treat politics as a battleground for spiritual warfare to vanquish the left."

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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    4 years ago

www.msnbc.com   /opinion/msnbc-opinion/ron-desantis-new-ad-ridiculous-dangerous-rcna55773

Ron DeSantis' bonkers new ad has to be seen to be believed

By Sarah Posner, MSNBC Opinion Columnist 6-7 minutes   11/7/2022


God may have made the world in six days and rested on the seventh, but according to the gospel of the   Ron DeSantis re-election campaign , the Almighty needed one more day to complete His creation. On the eighth day, the campaign tells us, God sent Ron DeSantis to save America.


By rewriting the words of the Bible, DeSantis changes the meaning of the text.

In a new video ad the Florida Republican’s wife, Casey,   shared   on Friday, the narrator tells us that on day eight, “God looked down on His planned paradise and said, ‘I need a protector.’ So God made a fighter.” That fighter is DeSantis, the governor who will serve the people, and “save their jobs, their livelihoods, their liberty, their happiness.”

The ad is so ham-handed that one could imagine DeSantis later claiming it was tongue-in-cheek. He has not, so far. But even if it is just a tease, like many far-right and authoritarian “jokes,” DeSantis is not kidding around. The ad is dangerous and anti-democratic, and was meant that way.

DeSantis’ premise — that just as God sent his son, Jesus Christ, to bring salvation to a sinful world, he has sent DeSantis to save an immoral America — seems so over the top that it’s hard to believe the campaign would use it. After all, DeSantis’ base of Christian right supporters believe the Bible is the infallible word of God, and that God exists in the trinity of the father, the son and the holy spirit — a concept that for two-thousand years has notably not included the governor of Florida. Had anyone other than a conservative Republican tampered with it, there surely would have been an outcry from the Christian right.

But the religious right will thrill to the ad’s message: Other people — Democrats, liberals, government officials — are taking away your freedoms, and God has sent DeSantis to vanquish them. In the ad, DeSantis is a dedicated, indefatigable “fighter” who “will take the arrows, stand firm in the wake of unrelenting attacks, look a mother in the eyes and tell her that her child will be in school. She can keep her job, go to church, eat dinner with friends, and hold the hand of an aging parent taking their breath for the last time.”

That last sequence focuses on restrictions imposed during the Covid-19 pandemic. Those long-expired rules remain potent fodder for the Republican Party intent on ensuring their voters remain aggrieved by “tyrannical” big government (even though those rules saved an untold number of lives). The mention of church, in particular, is aimed at the GOP’s Christian right base, which spent much of the early days of the pandemic   protesting and litigating   Covid restrictions as government excesses meant to destroy religious freedom, rather than public health measures implemented to save lives.

Whatever DeSantis does next — shipping more migrants to Massachusetts, cracking down further on LGBTQ rights, or running for president — will be portrayed as just what God intended.

As for the notion that God anoints politicians to save America, that framing is aimed at right-wing evangelical and charismatic Christians in particular, who   believe   in supernatural occurrences in the political world, in signs, wonders, and miracles, and in the anointing by God of modern-day apostles and prophets. They   support   Donald Trump, and believe God anointed him, too. They believe that America was founded as a Christian nation, that demonic enemies are seeking to destroy America’s Christian heritage and values. And they see it as is their duty, as Christians, to   engage   in spiritual warfare against those enemies — hence DeSantis’ portrayal as the brave martyr who “will take the arrows” on their behalf.

This commercial isn’t a new strategy for Florida’s governor.   In several appearances over the summer , he cited Ephesians 6, which reads, “Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.” But DeSantis made one notable modification. Instead of “the devil’s,” he said “the left’s.”

“By rewriting the words of the Bible, DeSantis changes the meaning of the text,” Brian Kaylor, an ordained minister and author   wrote   in September. “The author of Ephesians was talking to persecuted Christians to encourage them to remain committed to the ways of God. It’s not a call to go on the offensive against other people.”

Yet that is exactly what DeSantis called for in those speeches and in the new ad. The ad does not name or identify specific enemies of freedom, nor does it use the “armor of God” language DeSantis was invoking a few months ago. But the message is nonetheless crystal clear: God sent DeSantis to save you, and a victory on Tuesday is a fulfillment of God’s will. Whatever DeSantis does next — shipping more migrants to Massachusetts, cracking down further on LGBTQ rights, or running for president — will be portrayed as just what God intended.

DeSantis’ claim of having been anointed is an assertion of raw power, a provocation to a religious base and a direct danger to democracy. The Jan. 6 insurrection was   spurred   in part by the zealotry of Christian nationalist supporters of Donald Trump, who said that because God anointed him, his election loss could only be explained as an assault by demonic forces, carried out as a “deep state” plot. This new ad, which lays down a marker for a possible DeSantis presidential run in 2024, builds on those dangerous impulses and provides a clear signal of how the governor plans to marshal religious fervor to campaign and to govern.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  author  JohnRussell    4 years ago

According to the demented right, we need to elect this asshole president of the United States because "communists". 

Fuck that shit. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 years ago
Fuck that shit. 

That certainly calls for prophylactic protection.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1    4 years ago

Comment on the topic. Only warning. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 years ago
According to the demented right, we need to elect this asshole president of the United States because "communists". 

It doesn't matter to them what the supposed "disease" is, they must assign a terminal diagnosis for liberals and progressives and anyone who doesn't embrace their ideology and bow down and worship the God of White Christian conservatives and raise white Christian conservatives back onto the pedestal they're familiar with. They could call it "cooties" and it would make just as much sense, and possibly be more accurate, than calling the left "communists".

"Ahhh! Run! The 'leftists' are riddled with Cooties! Ahhhh!"...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2    4 years ago
Ahhh! Run! The 'leftists' are riddled with Cooties! Ahhhh!"...

We might have gone to the same elementary school, I remembered hearing something like that on the playground. Thanks, haven't thought about Cooties since, LoL.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  author  JohnRussell    4 years ago

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4  Gsquared    4 years ago

800

vs.

800

 
 
 
bbl-1
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5  bbl-1    4 years ago

Beware of the gawd people.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1  GregTx  replied to  bbl-1 @5    4 years ago

Yes.... beware

LOL...

 
 
 
JBB
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6  JBB    4 years ago

The small c christian gop actually eats this shit up!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @6    4 years ago

Oh wow, so they want to eat it and earlier, someone remarked that they want to fuck it, both sound disgusting to me.

 
 
 
JBB
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7  JBB    4 years ago

original

 
 
 
bbl-1
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7.1  bbl-1  replied to  JBB @7    4 years ago

Lucifer cheated himself.  'The Donald' has no soul.  But he does wear a girdle.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  bbl-1 @7.1    4 years ago

This seems off topic.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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7.1.2  bbl-1  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.1    4 years ago

No.  Everything is Trump.  Always Trump.  Don't believe it, ask him.

DeSantis?  Yeah, what about him?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @7    4 years ago

Isn't the topic DeSantis and his ad?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.2    4 years ago

The comments you are complaining about are related to the topic. Your comment about fucking shit was not. 

Im trying to give you a break, but I will start deleting if you keep going. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.1    4 years ago

I apologize, I should have read more closely and the entirety.  I know realize that you've strung two separate articles' along with your own editorial together.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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7.2.3  Hallux  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.1    4 years ago
Your comment about fucking shit was not.

Perhaps not but it was scatalogically funny and this joint could certainly use some poop 'n scoop dog whistles.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.2.4  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Hallux @7.2.3    4 years ago

You might be right. Personally,  I have never been into poop jokes. 

 
 
 
George
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7.2.5  George  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.4    4 years ago
I have never been into poop jokes. 

They aren't number 1 in my book either, but they are a firm #2.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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7.2.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @7.2.5    4 years ago
they are a firm #2 .

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JohnRussell
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9  author  JohnRussell    4 years ago

This is one of the replies DeSantis ad got on twitter. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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9.1  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @9    4 years ago

Did Musk tweet about this? I mean Musk as the right hand of God should have something to say.

 
 
 
Kavika
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10  Kavika     4 years ago
In a new video ad the Florida Republican’s wife, Casey, shared on Friday, the narrator tells us that on day eight, “God looked down on His planned paradise and said, ‘I need a protector.’ So God made a fighter.” That fighter is DeSantis, the governor who will serve the people, and “save their jobs, their livelihoods, their liberty, their happiness.”

OMG, is this serious? Now Florida has its own version of Elmer Gantry.

Elmer Gantry, ''Let's Pray Together''....

Being a Florida resident I trying to find out what liberties I lost that he saved.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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10.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @10    4 years ago
“God looked down on His planned paradise and said, ‘I need a protector.’

Why would God need a protector? 

 
 
 
Kavika
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10.1.1  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @10.1    4 years ago

If DeSantis thinks that he's God or talks to God then he needs all the help he can get.

God has already made a fighter named David and DeSantis is no David just ask Goliath.

 
 
 
GregTx
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10.1.2  GregTx  replied to  Kavika @10.1.1    4 years ago

That's an interesting post.

 
 

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