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Buying Elections

  
By:  John Russell  •  4 years ago  •  19 comments


Buying Elections
money buys elections. According to her if any less money had been spent in Pennsylvania Fetterman probably would have lost.  More money = better results. No money= you lose. 

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They are having an interesting discussion on MSNBC right now. In a nutshell, it is a back and forth on why the Democratic Party did not provide more money to Cheri Beasley in the North Carolina senate race. Beasley lost by about 3 pts to the Republican. After the results were clear Beasley complained she was outspent by the Republican by 62 million dollars and she didnt get help from the DNC. 

A couple people on the MSNBC panel are saying she should have been given more money and a couple are saying that the DNC had to spend the money on more high profile races like Pennsylvania and Arizona and Georgia. Claire McCaskell, who seems like a nice middle aged hack politician in essence spilled the beans -  money buys elections. According to her if any less money had been spent in Pennsylvania Fetterman probably would have lost.  More money = better results. No money= you lose. 

Our elections should not be like this, every major party candidate , and even third party candidates who meet a threshold, should receive federal funding for their campaigns from a fund established from a voluntary small addition to federal  income taxes (maybe 5 dollars) . 5 dollars from every tax payer in the year before the election would provide hundreds of millions of dollars to dispense to candidates for senator and representative at the national level. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    4 years ago

Same thing happened with Tim Ryan in Ohio. He got no money from the national Democratic Party. JD Vance was funded by right wing super pacs. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago
Same thing happened with Tim Ryan in Ohio. He got no money from the national Democratic Party. 

Tim could have used some of that +$60M that Dems spent on extreme right wing Repubs.

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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1.2  Nowhere Man  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago
Same thing happened with Tim Ryan in Ohio. He got no money from the national Democratic Party. JD Vance was funded by right wing super pacs. 

Analysis on the radio today was saying the same thing about some of the trump supported candidates... Essentially claiming that those supported by Trump didn't receive any funding from the Republican establishment, in fact all the money went to establishment candidates in the primaries which was used to attack them and handed the democrats the ammo to trash them in the election...

So the republicans are still eating their own as well as the democrats playing with supporting the candidates they want to run against in the general...

Politics is a vicious back stabbing game...

It's a new different political world out there where backstabbing your own is the name of the game....

It is still the outsiders against the establishment.... and that doesn't look like it's going to change anytime soon...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Nowhere Man @1.2    4 years ago

The game of thrones is as old as mankind.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2  Split Personality    4 years ago

On the other hand, there were articles on the internet today that say Kari Lake only did well because

in spite of her lack of experience compared to Kathy Hobbs,

She was more attractive, dressed better and speaks easily due to her 20 years experience as a broadcaster.

It apparently doesn't or did not matter that she is an election denier who sees fraud everywhere, even railing against the media industry she came from...

That race is statistically tied with Hobbs early lead slowly disappearing.

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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2.1  Nowhere Man  replied to  Split Personality @2    4 years ago

It might be a while for Arizona to finally fall, they have some real issues with voting procedures and access to voting for them to sort out...

Being this tight? it's gonna take a while to sort out.... Lake might just pull out the governors race, but I think Kelly is going to take the senate race....

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Nowhere Man @2.1    4 years ago

So much for Hobbs experience. She really screwed the pooch running this election.

She has either flushed her integrity or credibility down the toilet. Maybe both.

The judge should have looked at the lines at some of the polling centers before they made their ruling. Of course Democrats are screaming that no one was disenfranchised. They only scream that when Republicans set election laws; and there are no problems with voting and more people than ever before cast their ballots.

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Vic Eldred
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2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @2    4 years ago
That race is statistically tied with Hobbs early lead slowly disappearing.

Most of the still uncounted 400,000 votes were from election day and we all know what that means.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2    4 years ago

What do we know? We do know that Mark Kelly's margin grew overnight! Go figure...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @2.2.1    4 years ago
No, what do we know?

Not much.

Maricopa County officials said there were almost 340,000  ballots still to be counted.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.3  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.2    4 years ago

Yes, votes likely to grow Kelly's margin.. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @2.2.3    4 years ago

I have no idea what Kelly has to do with Lake, but be careful you don't make the mistake I made. It's best to wait and see.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2.5  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.4    4 years ago
I have no idea what Kelly has to do with Lake,

Yet you voted up NowhereMans comment about Lake and Kelly....

but be careful you don't make the mistake I made. It's best to wait and see.

Talking about Durham or something else?

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.6  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.4    4 years ago

A Senator affects me. AZ governor NSM. 

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.7  JBB  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.5    4 years ago

Vic miscalled all the last three elections! 

 
 
 
George
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2.2.8  George  replied to  JBB @2.2.7    4 years ago

At least Vic had the stones to put his prediction out there, can you show us your predictions?

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.9  JBB  replied to  George @2.2.8    4 years ago

You're free to review my comment history.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.2.10  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.4    4 years ago

“It's best to wait and see.”

While complaining about how long it takes to verify ballots. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @2.2.7    4 years ago
Vic miscalled all the last three elections! 

PROVE IT

 
 

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