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Democrats and Republicans agree on China. That’s a problem.

  
By:  John Russell  •  3 years ago  •  7 comments


Democrats and Republicans agree on China. That’s a problem.
I think it’s safe to say that the American people have already received that message loud and clear. Americans’ views of China are at the lowest levels ever recorded. In 2022, 82 percent of respondents told the Pew Research Center that they have an unfavorable opinion of China. The problem today isn’t that Americans are insufficiently concerned about the rise of China. The problem is that they are prey to hysteria and alarmism that could lead the United States into a needless nuclear war....

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Democrats and Republicans agree on China. That’s a problem.


Max Boot 8-10 minutes   3/6/2023




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In these ultra-partisan times, pundits often bemoan the decline of bipartisanship. I’ve done so myself. But we should remember that when the two parties agree on an issue, that doesn’t necessarily mean they are right. It could mean they are falling prey to a collective delusion.

In 1964, for example, Congress passed the   Gulf of Tonkin resolution   authorizing military action against North Vietnam. There were only two dissenting votes in the Senate and none in the House. Only later did it become clear that the factual basis of the resolution was fallacious (one of the two supposed North Vietnamese attacks on U.S. destroyers almost certainly did not occur) and that its impact was catastrophic: It would drag the United States into a losing war that left more than 58,000 Americans dead.


Nearly four decades later, in 2002, Congress authorized U.S. military action against Iraq by smaller (but still large) bipartisan majorities (296-133 in the House, 77-23 in the Senate) — setting the United States on the path to another disastrous conflict.

That history is worth keeping in mind lest we become too giddy in celebrating the current bipartisan agreement about the dangers posed by China. That consensus was on display last week in the   first hearing   of the newly formed House Select Committee on the Strategic Competition Between the United States and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), which had been created by a vote of 365-65.



Chairman Mike Gallagher (R-Wis.) and ranking minority-party member Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-Ill.) were a model of bipartisan comity. In fact, Krishnamoorthi insisted that Congress must be united because “the CCP wants us to be fractious, partisan and prejudiced.” But while the hearing was bipartisan, it was also disturbingly one-sided.

All four of the witnesses — former national security adviser H.R. McMaster, former deputy national security adviser Matthew Pottinger, Chinese dissident Tong Yi and business lobbyist Scott Paul — urged the hardest of hard lines against Beijing. Utterly missing were any of the numerous experts in the China-watchers community who would have warned of the risks of reckless confrontation, advocated dialogue with Beijing to reduce tensions and pointed out that there are issues (such as trade, global warming and the North Korean nuclear program) where cooperation with China is in our own interest.

In fact, Gallagher — a moderate by the standards of the House Republican caucus — implied that those who urge a less hawkish approach are Communist dupes: “The CCP has found friends on Wall Street, in Fortune 500 C-suites and on K Street who are ready and willing to oppose efforts to push back,” he said.

Jessica Chen Weiss, a political scientist at Cornell University who is a   leading advocate   of a more measured policy toward China, told me: “Gallagher has set the stage for anyone who raises questions about U.S. policy to be smeared as a friend of the Chinese Communist Party. … The initial selection of witnesses gives little reason to believe that the committee will invite differing viewpoints.”

The testimony about the threat from China wasn’t so much wrong as it was one-sided and misleading. For example, Krishnamoorthi displayed a chart juxtaposing U.S. manufacturing employment against the U.S. trade deficit with China from 1973 to 2015. “It starts out at roughly 18.8 or 19 million American jobs in manufacturing, and it goes all the way down to about 12.4 million jobs in 2015,” he said, implying that all of those jobs were lost to trade with China.

In fact, lots of other countries with robust manufacturing sectors, including Germany, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam and Mexico, have contributed to U.S. job losses. So has   automation . Moreover,   an analysis   in the Harvard Business Review found that while “some U.S. regions lost manufacturing jobs as a result of trade with China in the early 2000s … that trend has ended.”

Completely unmentioned were all the benefits of trade with China. The U.S.-China Business Council   notes : “American companies   exported   $192 billion in goods and services to China in 2021, constituting 7.5 percent of U.S. exports … Exports to China   support   over 1 million U.S. jobs.” Meanwhile, cheap Chinese exports have fueled U.S. prosperity — and, until recently, with low inflation.

Trying to decouple the U.S. and Chinese economies, as the committee advocates, is undoubtedly necessary for some strategically important commodities, but it will come at a considerable cost. The Tax Foundation   estimates   that President Donald Trump’s tariffs on China will reduce U.S. gross domestic product by $55.7 billion and cost 173,000 full-time jobs. But anyone who watched the committee hearing would not have heard a peep about such sobering statistics.

Even when it came to China’s military buildup and its increasingly assertive foreign policy — where the threat to U.S. interests is clearer — the committee and its witnesses neglected to mention some important facts. There was much discussion, and appropriately so, of China’s attempts to take over the South China Sea and Taiwan. But no one pointed out that China has been much more cautious in the conduct of its foreign policy than Russia. While President Vladimir Putin has launched several wars since taking power in 2000, China hasn’t done so since its conflict with Vietnam in 1979.

And while it’s true that China is building up its military to enable an invasion of Taiwan, CIA Director William J. Burns cautions that no decision to attack has been made and that war is not “ inevitable .” But that balanced assessment went unmentioned amid the committee’s relentless hyping of the Chinese threat.

What was the point of this hearing anyway? “Our goal is to communicate to our colleagues and the American people why the Chinese Communist Party is a threat,” Gallagher   said . I think it’s safe to say that the American people have already received that message loud and clear. Americans’ views of China are at the   lowest levels   ever recorded. In 2022,   82 percent   of respondents told the Pew Research Center that they have an unfavorable opinion of China.

The problem today isn’t that Americans are   insufficiently   concerned about the rise of China. The problem is that they are prey to hysteria and alarmism that could lead the United States into a needless nuclear war. Witness the unhinged reaction when a Chinese surveillance balloon drifted across the continental United States.

Many Americans acted as if Beijing were actually attacking us — rather than surveilling us, something that both the United States and China routinely do with their spy satellites. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) actually   claimed   that Beijing was trying to send a “message” that the “United States is a once-great superpower that’s … in decline.” In fact, there are   indications   that the balloon flew over the U.S. mainland only because strong winds blew it off course.

With U.S.-China tensions ratcheting up at a dangerous rate, the select committee could perform a real service by presenting a balanced and nuanced picture of how the United States should deal with China. But that’s not what it is doing. It is engaging in bipartisan alarmism. As one former National Security Council official told me: “This isn’t an evidence-driven exercise to identify America’s long-term interests and how China relates to them. It is a propaganda exercise that Beijing would find easily recognizable.”


Max Boot is a Washington Post columnist, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and the author of “The Road Not Taken: Edward Lansdale and the American Tragedy in Vietnam.”  Twitter




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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    3 years ago

for those who may be interested in a non hysterical perspective

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago

I'm interested.  I'm always interested in knowing the other side of a story.  IMO the biggest problems in the world are caused by and maintained by those who don't think there is another side to a story, or, as Paul Harvey used to put it, "the REST of the story".  Thank you for posting it.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    3 years ago

This rebuttal from a non fanatic like Boot is worth reading.

Boot also fails to explain how American public "alarmism" over China is unwarranted. On the contrary, if most Americans truly understood the scale and ambition of China's espionage activities, its nuclear and conventional force developments, and the Chinese Communist Party's cold disregard for individual freedom, their alarm would surely be even greater than it is today. Indeed, Xi's fixation on ensuring ideological conformity, whether by   Chinese business interests   or ethnic Uyghurs, is utterly anathema to defining American values. It's unclear how this alarmism could, as Boot suggests, result in a nuclear war. Perhaps Boot believes that general public disdain for China will motivate unjustified U.S. government actions that further exacerbate Beijing's frustration. If so, he needs to identify what these actions might be. Support for Taiwan? Further high-tech export restrictions? The proper debate is in the details.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    3 years ago
Indeed, Xi's fixation on ensuring ideological conformity, whether by   Chinese business interests   or ethnic Uyghurs, is utterly anathema to defining American values.

And?  Is this supposed to be the first time a foreign power was an anathema to American values? Saudi Arabia comes to mind. 

"Communism" is what drives the right's hatred of China, and the Democrats are going along so as not to look unpatriotic. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    3 years ago
the Democrats are going along so as not to look unpatriotic.

So Biden doesn’t mean it in his National Strategy?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    3 years ago
Democrats are going along so as not to look unpatriotic. 

Tell that to Brandon who is still peddling "China is not our enemy; they are our competitors." The threat of nuclear war is nil so long as Brandon is in the Oval Office; and China knows it. Hell, Brandon can't even bring himself to claim China is responsible for Covid being developed in the Wuhan labs- even as more and more of his departments come to that conclusion. I am sure he is holding out hope his department of diversity will accept Fauci's wet market wet dream.

I am far more worried about the mission creep in Ukraine that could lead to nuclear war with Russia. Democrats, and some Neocon Establishment Republicans, are beating the war drums loud and clear. They are willing to sell us into poverty to ensure Ukraine's borders. Zelensky is far too strong of a personality for Brandon to deal with. Zelensky demands loud enough and Brandon caves.

If Putin is as weak as Democrats are claiming; then he has nothing to lose by making sure the US/NATO pay before he falls.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    3 years ago

Max Boot is trying to turn a pointless Congressional hearing into more than it was simply because that hearing represents a threat to the neoliberal order.  Boot is employing the status quo kneejerk.  Boot is correct that faith in the neoliberal order is waning but he doesn't acknowledge that fact.  The neoliberal order has failed to make the world a better place.  People are ready to turn the page.

The United States won't fight a war with China.  The war in Ukraine provides ample explanation why a war with China won't happen.  Wars are fought with factories and the United States has turned its back on producing what the country needs.  Talk about war production and people automatically think of airplanes, guns, bombs, tanks, and all the rest.  But fighting a war also requires socks, underwear, eyelets and laces for boots, buttons and zippers, kitchen utensils, soap, light bulbs, and a host of everyday items people use all the time.  If the United States does not have the industrial infrastructure to supply a peacetime population with everyday items then the United States certainly cannot manufacture those items for a war.

Free trade has so weakened the United States that it may be impossible for the country to fight a prolonged war.  A war with China will depend as much on ability to supply T shirts as it will on supplying howitzer shells.  And the United States is no longer up for that challenge.

 
 

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