Left-wing Young Turks commentator infuriates woke mob by blasting trans-friendly terms such as 'birthing person' and 'person who menstruates'
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Left-wing host of The Young Turks called out for pushing back on 'trans friendly' language
Hope Sloop 8-10 minutes 3/23/2023
One of the hosts of The Young Turks faced intense outrage from a woke mob - which included some of her own loyal fans - after she criticized a series of 'trans-friendly' vocabulary.
Left wing commentator Ana Kasparian tweeted that she finds certain trans-inclusive ways of addressing 'women' - such as person with a uterus and birthing person - as degrading.
But Kasparian then found herself heavily criticized by the woke online mob - pinning her as being transphobic and trans-exclusionary for her mere opinions.
Earlier this week, the social commentator wrote: 'I'm a woman. Please don't ever refer to me as a person with a uterus, birthing person, or person who menstruates. How do people not realize how degrading this is?
On Wednesday, Ana Kasparian tweeted that she finds certain transgender-friendly ways of addressing 'women' as 'degrading,' much to the chagrin of social media
'I'm a woman. Please don't ever refer to me as a person with a uterus, birthing person, or person who menstruates. How do people not realize how degrading this is?' Kasparian said
One person called Ana a 'TERF,' an acronym meaning 'trans-exclusionary radical feminist,' a term that most notably entered the public eye after Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling (pictured above) made anti-transgender statements
'Those words are meant for AFAB [assigned female at birth] people as a category, not individual people. Get a grip,' transgender journalist Katelyn Burns wrote
Her comments did not go over well with Twitter users on both the right and the left with one person saying: 'Ana, that might be one of the most TERF things you could say.'
A TERF is an acronym meaning 'trans-exclusionary radical feminist,' a term that most notably entered the public eye after Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling made anti-transgender statements.
Kasparian's tweet, posted just before 2.30pm on March 22, has been viewed on the social media app more than 20 million times.
One transgender journalist and MSNBC contributor called out Kasparian and told her to 'get a grip' on her tweets.
'Those words are meant for AFAB [assigned female at birth] people as a category, not individual people. Get a grip,' Katelyn Burns wrote.
One person who identifies themselves as a psychiatrist for transgender youth also called out the tweet.
'Who called you that? I've only ever heard that used when referring to a population, not an individual person,' wrote Jack Turban.
'Obviously, those terms are meant to be precise to include all people who meet one of those characteristics, when needing to discuss a relevant topic,' Turban tweeted.
Mike Figueredo, who goes by the 'The Humanist Report' on Twitter, said in a tweet that he believes Kasparian is playing into anti-trans rhetoric.
'I respect you a lot, but this notion that the mere existence of trans-inclusive terms (rarely used in casual convos) somehow degrades women comes right out of the right's anti-trans 'war on women' playbook,' Figueredo tweeted.
'There's a reason why they're praising you for this,' he continued.
Her comments did not go over well with Twitter users on both the right and the left with one person saying: 'Ana, that might be one of the most TERF things you could say'
Mike Figueredo, who goes by the 'The Humanist Report' on Twitter, said in a tweet that he believes Kasparian is playing into anti-trans rhetoric
Another person on Twitter said 'speaking with inclusion does not erase your womanhood' in response to Kasparian's tweet
One Twitter user blamed 'the right' for creating the division between transgender and cis women, saying they are the ones who want 'to label people based on their genitals'
Among those 'praising' Kasparian was former Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, who tweeted her support for the host's statements.
'A broken clock...' Lake wrote in response to The Young Turks' host's tweet.
Kasparian did not appear to want Lake's endorsement, however, responding: 'I think you're an embarrassment to this country and full blown lunatic.'
British rapper Zuby joined in, stating: 'Your side is going to roast you now. I hope you're ready for the tolerance.'
Kasparian also responded to that tweet, saying: 'They have the right to speak their piece, as do I.'
'A sensible, mainstream take... that is going to absolutely trigger the s**t out of Very Online progressives,' journalist Brad Polumbo responded in a tweet.
'Your comment section has turned into a lunatic asylum. Some people just can't accept your remarks,' Ian Miles Cheong said.
Among those 'praising' Kasparian was former Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, who tweeted her support for the host's statements. Kasparian did not appear to want Lake's endorsement, however, responding: 'I think you're an embarrassment to this country and full blown lunatic'
British rapper Zuby joined in, stating: 'Your side is going to roast you now. I hope you're ready for the tolerance.' Kasparian also responded to that tweet, saying: 'They have the right to speak their piece, as do I'
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I dont think biological women should be referred to as "person with a uterus, birthing person, or person who menstruates." I'm not sure it is all that "degrading" (as Kasparian says), but what is the point?
Lets protect trans rights vigorously without all this over the top rhetoric and signifying. I think Ana is right.
I also think too much is made in public discourse about transgender issues in general. It is in reality a small issue when seen as part of the entire population. Trans people can be protected without all this drama.
The left is engaged in a full out war on women. ESPN just named that male who swims With women as part of womens history month. It’s like celebrating Rachael dozleal for black history month.
Is that happening much, though? I can see referring to a pregnant trans man as a “birthing person” but I don’t know why you would need to include a cis woman. I’m sure this gets talked about enthusiastically on the internet, but I doubt too many hospitals are going to bother with this.
Where is this coming up in real life that it needs to be a concern?
Try asking our new Supreme Court Justice what a women is!
Much? No, but it is happening. J. K. Rowling got roasted for responding to the term "people who menstruate" in reference to women by calling such people "women".
And some of the terms being used to describe women exclude cis women. Many women don't menstruate. Some don't have a uterus. They're still women, and likely resent the implication that they're no longer included as such. I know I don't much care for it. I no longer have a uterus, but I am a woman, and a mother.
And similarly, trans women are not excluded from being called women merely on the basis of menstruation or possession of a uterus.
And then there's even sillier stuff. Parenting sites now sometimes discuss "chestfeeding" instead of "breastfeeding". I breastfed my son for 14 months. I didn't use my sternum to do it.
If a woman prefers to be called a "woman" and "mother" who "breastfed", she runs the risk of being labeled a TERF, no matter how much she may stand for LGBTQ rights. Those who shame women for wanting to be called women are alienating potential allies, and frankly, it's a stupid move.
People use various terms depending on the situation. In the case of a trans individual (and despite the increase in the frequency of the topic, this is still a tiny minority of people), we might use certain terms. But I don’t think this is going to translate into any institution (hospitals, government, insurance companies, ob/gyn doctors) labeling all pregnant women as “birthing persons” or whatever. That wouldn’t just be silly, it could be misleading.
Inclusiveness should be a vehicle for providing dignity to those that might lack it, but it doesn’t need to do it at the expense of the dignity of the 99%, and I don’t think it will. So, for example, we see forms that might say “parent/guardian” instead of “mom or dad” but when you get to the level of the individual, we use the more specific term. I really don’t think anyone is going to start calling a woman “birthing person” when she wants to be called a woman. That sort of goes against the whole idea of respecting how people wish to be identified.
But when we have these internet “discussions,” people freak out and think that just because someone comes up with a term for a few people in a special situation, it will be imposed on everyone else in all situations. Some activist on the internet might love that idea, but regular people in the real world aren’t going to put up with that. That’s why I don’t worry about it.
But some people are now saying that individual women should use a new term to describe their own personal experience. In this context, a woman who breastfeeds is being discouraged from saying she breastfeeds (or breastfed). Sorry, but there comes a point where it really is just silly, and there actually are those who are telling women to police their own thoughts and language about their own experiences. It discounts the majority of women's experiences, and attempts to force them to describe those experiences in ways that forget they're women.
My experience as a woman is not gender-neutral, and there is no reason why I should be pressured to make it sound as if it is.
And if trans people want to be recognized as the gender with which they identify, I'm all for that. But they, in turn, should recognize and accept the experiences of those who are not trans. Trans women, IMO, should be the last people to attempt to erase the experiences of the gender they are trying to become.
I agree 100%.
Men are uterus disadvantaged ... @!@
Personally, I don't give a shit about the new "inclusive" or "nicer" or "friendly" gender or other language, I'm damn well going to continue to use the words the same as I was taught in school. If that hurts anyone's feelings, they can go sit in their "safe rooms" (something else that I think is unbelievable) and cry.
I agree 100%. I know if my late wife was still alive and I addressed her by any of those terms I'd have found myself sleeping on the couch or in my truck and getting the silent treatment.