GOP is 'never going back' from Trump and party's future 'isn’t likely to be pretty': pollster
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P ollster Sarah Longwell has a dire message for Republicans who insist the party is ready to "move on" from former President Donald Trump .
Writing in The Bulwark , the anti-Trump strategist says that conversations she's had with GOP base voters have shown no appetite for going back to the way the party was before Trump's 2016 election campaign, and she noted that even Trump imitators such as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis are having trouble convincing the GOP base of their bonafides.
In fact, Longwell says that recent focus groups with GOP voters have shown them souring on DeSantis in the wake of Trump's attacks.
"Voters I talked to recently say they’re 'a little concerned' about DeSantis 'because he’s still establishment,' and that 'he seems like more of an open-borders, Paul Ryan kind of guy,'" she writes. "Others called him 'more of a politician than Trump is' and said 'he is very much one of those political, swampy guys.' Words that stood out when we asked voters to describe DeSantis: 'wishy-washy' 'a little shady,' and 'not trustworthy.'"
The answer to that is the very one that Ron DeSantis must articulate: Donald Trump was a great President, but we have to move on or lose.
Let us not forget that it is the democrats who have made Trump a martyr.
I and others have been saying for years now that things are going to get worse, and that Trump supporters are a greater danger than Trump himself.
Things are going to get worse.
How ya gonna keep em down on the farm once they've drunk the Kool-Aid?
Ever since Fox empowered low IQ rednecks it's been a downward spiral.
"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
Were they low IQ rednecks and blue collar workers when they were electing Dems?
You mean way back when Dems were conservative and liberals were called republicans?
Funny how words morph after time.
You think FDR was a conservative?
And yet Dems still are racists for the most part, they still feel African Americans can't succeed without their help. the stupid Mother fucker in the whitehouse thinks African American Women aren't smart enough to raise their own children without a white social workers help.
Oh...the horror of it all!
They already have gotten worse, Joe Biden got elected!
Is it any wonder the once Grand Old Party of Lincoln is now known in the lower case as merely "the gop"?
Even if trump is the nominee and gets boat raced, the republicans will be back. Every victory is temporary, a lesson democrsts never seem to learn despite their own history. They nominated William Jennings Bryan and lost three times. Didn’t stop them from electing Woodrow Wilson to two terms. Republicans complete domination of the 20s didn’t prevent the democrats from obtaining massive majorities in the 30s and 40s.
Nixon and Reagan won blowouts democrats have never come close to replicating, yet democrats recaptured the presidency within a few cycles.
trump may matter a lot in 2024. He will be absolutely irrelevant to the results in 2032.
Please keep whistling past the gop's graveyard!
I don' think you understand what that means. Less than six months ago the Republicans won a majority of House votes in the national election.
Unless you have the brain power of a goldfish, it's clear that Democrats aren't even close to becoming a dominate party like they were in the 1930s or the Republicans were in the 20s.
until trump came along Ronald Reagan was the god. now reagan is an afterthought in right wing circles.
still reagan was up there for 35 years. and you think trump will be gone in 2032? he might be dead by then but he wont be gone.
And Bill Clinton was a god in Democratic circles until it became convenient for Democrats to oppose rape again in 2016 and now Clinton is an after thought, even though he's still alive.
All Republicans did was invo
nd you think trump will be gone in 2032? he might be dead by then but he wont be gone.
The only way he's relevant is if he wins again. Do you think that happens.
No one is voting for a candidate who's not been on a ballot in 8 or 12 years. Unless Trump wins in 2024, he'll be irrelevant by 2028.
Look at Obama. Democrats will say a nice word about him on the trail, but he's totally irrelevant when it comes to people actually voting.
When was the last time a GOP candidate for President received more votes than the Democrat candidate?
2004. Before that it was 1988...
Bush 2004
And that is more telling about the future of the democratic and republican parties than anything else.
Republican party is waning, while democratic party is waxing.
Do you really think it is funny the gop only won the popular vote in one Presidential election in the last thirty five years?
Where'd you get that ass-umption? i was laughing at DotW's commentary on bush rather than "waxing"
It's the goldfish brain at work. Biden won a narrow victory so they can't conceive of ever losing. Democrats elected one person, Grover Cleveland, between 1860 and 1912. 20 years later they were at their most powerful position in history. Things change. Always. Democrats think whatever the situation is today will last forever.
I think you need to re-examine your use of the word "narrow".
You mean the candidate who won the election with the most people voting ever got the most votes? Crazy. Does that make Trump the second most popular candidate ever since he got the second most amount of votes, ever?
It's almost as if as the population grows, so to will the number of votes the candidates receive.
n won 306 electoral votes, while Trump had 232.
45,000 votes switch in a few states and Trump wins.
Convincing wins happened in 08, 88, 84, 72, 64 etc..
Isn't that the way it is supposed to work?
Sure, you can look at it that way. But it also makes him the biggest loser in history since he lost by more votes than any other presidential candidate in history.
You'd think, but it does not seem to be working that way for republicans. Younger generations are going to the left.
Wins again while still losing the popular votes. You are correct.
Do you think elections should work that way, where the less popular candidate wins?
Of course.. You are the one who bizarrely argued that it means Biden's win wasn't narrow.
Sure, you can look at it that way.
but I don't, because I understand how percentages work.
t it does not seem to be working that way for republicans
You must have missed the point where I pointed out Trump got the second most amount of votes in history. I'll say it again "as the population grows, so to will the number of votes candidates receive.
So it does, in fact, work that way for Republicans too.
Do you think elections should work that way, where the less popular candidate wins?
I think the winning candidate should be able to command votes overs a geographically diverse area and appeal to different constituencies.
You never equated your definition of "narrow" to percentage instead of number of votes. If it makes you feel better, yes you can say the percentage made it a narrow victory without acknowledging that it equated to millions of votes.
Once again, if you choose to look at it in a certain manner, yes you could say Trump got the 2nd largest number of votes. However you also have to acknowledge that those do not equate to other candidates with the 2022 elections, and the failed "red wave" providing evidence of that.
And how did that 2022 "red wave" work out for republicans?
Why do you reply to a question yet still refuse to answer it?
What are the Republican (MAGA) issues here in April 2023?
White victimization . A large portion of republicans believe whites are the real victims of racism .
Transgenders playing girls sports.
Defunding the FBI.
Hunter Biden.
being "anti-woke'.
banning books and defunding libraries.
defending the Jan 6th rioters
NONE of these are at the top of the list of Americans concerns. MAGA is causing the Republican Party to commit self-abuse.