Tucker Carlson Becoming Increasingly Un-American
Tucker Carlson's latest twitter program is a 13 minute volley of lies, in which he starts out by defending the Fox News chyron the other day which proclaimed the president is a "wannabe dictator", and bemoaning the fact that the person responsible was fired by Fox News. At one point he suggests that the death of Ashley Babbitt is an indicator that Biden is a dictator, conveniently forgetting that Joe Biden was not president on Jan 6th 2021.
Carlson goes down a list of things that indicate Biden is a dictator, virtually all of it the product of his overheated imagination.
It is said that Tucker Carlson's latest twitter program got over 2 million views in the first hour after it dropped. There is an audience for this un-American garbage, and that goes beyond the simple problem of "Donald Trump".
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Tucker Carlson just aired his third "Tucker on Twitter" where he issued a response to Trump's indictment. It was frankly unbelievable, and not in a good way.
Here's the recap: 1). He says the indictment is entirely political, and is a direct result of Trump being against Americas' foreign interventions, particularly not supporting Ukraine against Russia. 2). He says Joe Biden is behind the prosecution, but that "Democrats and Republicans" are against him, because "Washington" wants to get rich and the only thing you can't do is talk against their wars. He says when Trump spoke about the Iraq war on the debate stage in 2016, "Washington decided" to jail him. 3). He says in America if you're against the Ukraine war America will take away your rights. 4). He basically calls America a sh*thole, and says its falling apart. 5). He says that Trump is the only politician in all of America who is actually against wars, and that's why "they" (both parties) are trying to "jail him for life."
Blatant generalizations and hyperbole. Intense conspiracy. And he is, frankly, the "pulse" of MAGA. Truly a dangerous and hateful figure.
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I dont think he's putting on an act to attract viewers, I think he really is this hateful , un-american prick. At the peak of his popularity at Fox he had white supremacist sympathizers on his office staff.
you can watch the video here
I’d rather watch my fingernails grow. Tucker is a one trick pony.
The size and dedication of his followers is a problem for our country and society. His three twitter videos have gotten tens of millions of views.
Look at it this way John: Fox News currently has nobody to fill his shoes.
His shoes should not be filled. He's human garbage.
His video is one lie after another.
Should he be sent to the Gulag?
What gulag?
Stop fantasizing.
Clearly, he has asked too many questions.
Do you buy what he is selling?:
He's hitting the nitrous oxide too hard.
I say more coke with Don Jr.
If we don't have one, one should be created, just for carlson's anti-American ass.
How are his views and opinions "un-American"? Should he be silenced or censored?
What are "American viewpoints" in your opinion?
The video is lie after lie about Joe Biden. Trashing the president like that is unAmerican.
No one needs to lie about Trump if that is what you were thinking.
Well, you bash and trash Trump incessently....Isn't that un-American?
Am I un-American if I criticize Biden and the Democrats?
The hypocrisy just keeps coming and coming.
Depends upon the truth of the 'bash'. Is it unAmerican to note that Trump lied to the world claiming that the US electoral system was rigged and that Joe Biden is an illegitimate PotUS? Seems to me, 'bashing' Trump for those lies is the patriotic act and supporting his lies is the opposite.
Trump is a uniquely bad individual. If you dont know that by now you never will.
Where does "Russian Collusion" fall, the FBI tried to effect the outcome of an election.
It would be a false 'bash'. As I stated (and you even quoted it) the truth is what justifies a 'bash'.
Do you agree that it is patriotic to 'bash' Trump for his lies about the election and Biden's legitimacy and that supporting his lies is unpatriotic?
You can bash Trump all you want about the election. To call it patriotic is silly.
So you think it unpatriotic to criticize Trump for lying to the world about the US electoral system being fraudulent and claiming Biden is not a legitimate PotUS.
Based on the profound absence of rational reasoning in your last comment, my guess then is that you are still a Trump supporter / defender and would vote for him if nominated. Right?
You would act to put this abysmal human being into the most powerful office on the planet.
If you disagree, then be clear about it.
Where were you in 2016? Many Democrats (especially Hillary) still claim the 2016 election was stolen. Care to call them out? Or just continue to bash Trump?
You would still vote for Brandon- despite the growing amount of evidence and obstruction by the FBI and DOJ into his pay for play. Despite the fact his administration has turned the US justice system into a two tier system that tin horn dictators everywhere would envy. Despite the fact he refuses to enforce our border and immigration laws. Despite the fact he kowtows to China and allowed the spy balloon unfettered access to go where ever they desired in the US. Despite that he has committed far greater crimes in holding and hiding classified documents both from his time as VP and as a Senator.
And while I hope the Republicans nominate a different candidate- I will vote for anyone other than Brandon or any other Democrat that will continue their destruction of this country.
Why not? You put the current abysmal human being into he most powerful office on the planet; and would have him return.
If you disagree and will not vote to reelect Brandon, then be clear about it. No more "but Trruuuummmmppppp!!!!!!!" BS.
YES, yes i would vote for Biden if the GOP offers up again, the biggest threat this country has seen and endured in a century or so.
What growing amount of evidence, the dead or missing secret informants, please...?
Where is your PROOF, not more mere speculative shout outs ?
Where is your proof about ANYTHING you have just stated ?
your undying devotion to a cult, is noted, yet not excused, ignited whilst not diffused, noted, while not excused, sorry so many r still so confused, but sorry, so many no longer amused
Sure, it was wrong to declare the 2016 election rigged since it clearly was not. It would be okay to hypothesize that Comey made the difference since that would be reasonable analysis based on the facts.
Apparently you are so deep into partisanship that you cannot even comprehend that some of us do not hold positions based on party affiliation.
The word 'still' is presumption. You have no idea what you are talking about. But I will tell you that if the choice comes down to Trump or Biden and there is a chance that Trump might win, I will vote the most effective way to ensure Trump does not win (that might mean holding my nose and voting for Biden). If there is no chance that Trump might win, I will vote for the best available candidate (a principled vote). If the best we have is Biden, and Trump cannot possibly win, then I will likely not vote for anyone (another principled vote).
It is Trump supporters/defenders like you who put people in the above situation. Your defense of Trump has enabled him to be the frontrunner. You should have helped move the GOP away from Trump after his election loss and unpatriotic Big Lie campaign. But because of your truly stupid partisan blind loyalty, here we all are sitting with a real prospect of Trump being the GOP nominee. (And I also blame the Ds for not encouraging Biden to step down so they could put forth a strong candidate ... but the Ds problem is nothing compared to the abysmal character of Trump.)
Labeling Biden 'abysmal' is both Pee Wee Herman rhetoric and absurd. There is no comparing Biden to Trump in terms of character.
As for "you put", you presume again. You again have no clue what you are talking about.
Clearly, however, you just admitted that you would vote Trump back into office. There is no reasoning with someone so blinded by partisanship that he would actually vote to put Trump in the most powerful office on the planet.
Find an argument. Repeating this stupid mantra at every turn is witless and childish. Your comments end up looking emotional and foolish.
I was ( obviously ) referring to this: James Comey's October Surprise
You voted up Ronin's ridiculous rant where he responded to my claim that he would vote to put Trump back in office by giving his 'reasons'.
Apparently you agree with him and would also vote for Trump if he were the GOP nominee. Do you have the same 'reasons'?
Or the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle?
As I stated, it is correct to 'bash' on that which is true.
Is it patriotic to criticize a PotUS (or former PotUS) for that which he has done wrong?
Or is it only patriotic if the PotUS (or former PotUS) is of 'the other party'?
I think you know the answer, but your response seems to support goosie's position that it is NOT patriotic to criticize Trump where he was (obviously, outrageously) wrong.
You, like others, claim 'facts' that are not true. Where do you see people denying that Comey cleared Hillary? Do you see it in what I posted? If so, what you see is nothing more than your distorted imagination.
Focus on the point, Texan. We were talking about (and this was even a side point) the hypothesis that Comey's October Surprise impacted the 2016 election. Now if you have something of value then offer it.
The point, however, was voting for Trump. From your responses it looks like you would actually vote for Trump if nominated. If so, explain how you could even consider putting that abysmal character in the most powerful office on the planet. If not, then take a clear stand.
Then you do not understand the dynamics of the electorate.
From your responses it looks like you would actually vote for Trump if nominated. If so, explain how you could even consider putting that abysmal character in the most powerful office on the planet. If not, then take a clear stand.
Funny how you clearly refuse to take a stand on whether you would vote for Trump if nominated.
I dont think its a mystery.
I stated that the hypothesis of Comey's October Surprise affecting the election is rational analysis based on the facts (and an understanding of electorate dynamics). Don't move the goalposts to shore up your feeble argument.
Since you continue to run from the question, it is obvious that you plan to vote for Trump if nominated. That is unpatriotic, irrational and irresponsible. The kind of behavior one would expect from mindless partisanship.
"Is it patriotic to criticize a PotUS (or former PotUS) for that which he has done wrong?"
The beauty of this country that all citizens enjoy is the constitutional right to criticize whomever we choose from the president on down. My view is that it is not so much a matter of patriotism as it is differentiating and expressing a belief of right from wrong.
To me it makes no difference what party the belong to. Wrong is wrong and right is still right, and both have done plenty wrong. I am not going tom fall into that trap at this time of who did more, or less, than the other.
As for my response above, I was neither supportive nor unsupportive of Gosse's comment, but merely stating what I thought relevant. Joe Biden was dead wrong on how he and others so badly mishandled/mismanaged things that needlessly cost American lives and untold Afghan ones. This was done on Biden's watch, not his predecessor's. So the blame is on him and I will exercise my right to criticize him for it.
The above may not be the answers you were hoping, for but it was the best I can do.
The key part of your answer that appeals to me most is that you apparently do indeed recognize that criticizing a PotUS properly (when the PotUS has demonstrably done wrong) is indeed what a good patriot should do.
Then you deny that you will vote for Trump if he is the nominee?
Take a stand, Texan; don't run away from an uncomfortable question.
There you go. I too will not vote for Trump under any circumstances.
So if we are again stuck with Biden vs. Trump, will you abstain from voting?
If it looks like Trump might win, would you vote for Biden?
I have answered these questions @4.1.11 — can you?
Then if we are stuck with Biden v. Trump, you will vote for neither.
Your insistence that Comey's October Surprise could not possibly have any effect on the outcome of the 2016 election shows a level of naivety in how electorate dynamics work. Many people remain undecided until days before voting and many others who have decided can be easily swayed based on the circumstances.
Here is one of many opinions on this:
And here is one of several analysis articles the explains how Comey might have made a difference:
It is silly for you to state, categorically, that there is no possible way Comey could have affected the election enough to enable Trump to win.
That was not a question, that was a summary.
Again, I did not ask a question, I summarized your answers.
The summary was for readers. Here is a paraphrase:
Texan has stated that given Trump v Biden that he will vote for neither.
Except that is exactly what you are doing.
A summary cuts through all your bullshit obfuscations and delivers the net claim that you will never vote for Biden and, importantly, you will never vote for Trump.
You are now babbling.
You have delivered your answer. You have stated that you will never vote for Trump.
That is a position I can support.
At this point you are simply trolling so move along.
Exactly!! See, that is why I noted that I support your position on never voting for Trump.
Glad this is all clear in your head now.
As noted, and I will now repeat since you did not comprehend it, my summary was for readers, not for you.
I extracted the interesting part: your claim that you will never vote for Trump from all other rhetoric you posted.
well i did
Don't go down the rabbit hole.
You'll never get out no matter how you answer questions or how many times you do answer.
Texan has stated that he will never vote for Trump. I have stated that I support his position.
What is the rabbit hole of which you speak?
You have stated that it was wrong for Trump to lie about a rigged election, claim millions of voters were disenfranchised, and that Biden is not the legitimate PotUS. Given you recognize the wrongdoing (and, perhaps, other wrongdoing of Trump such as the allegations in the documents indictment), would you ever vote for Trump to be PotUS?
Why would you ever vote for Biden to be PotUS again? In my opinion there's at least a 50% chance he won't be able to finish this term much less a second, so a vote for Biden is actually a vote for Kamala. Wny?....
I would appreciate you not asking me that question.
See @4.1.11 for my preemptive explanation stating the conditions on which I would consider voting for Biden.
I agree, and that bothers me greatly! Biden is too old and Kamala is clearly a poor choice for PotUS.
Given all that and given what we know of Trump, would you ever vote for Trump to be PotUS?
Why is "would you vote for Trump to be PotUS?" such a difficult question for you to answer?
After all, Texan was able to stand up and answer the question. I answered the question. Seems like an easy question to answer if one's answer is anything like "of course not!!".
Now if someone actually would vote for Trump I can see why they would run away from such a question.
I think it is a reasonable hypothesis. We cannot know for certain, but there definitely was a shift after his announcement.
Yes, I read the post. Didn't really answer my question.
I see, so the answer is "but Trump"?.... No I wouldn't vote for Trump or Biden.
OK let's make this easy....
No
Now, record my answer and remember to not ask it again.
I covered all the conditions Greg. How can it not answer your question?
Well what I see is that you are not asking serious questions and are not attempting to seriously discuss this with me.
Would you ever vote for Trump to be PotUS?
I do not need to ask you again. You answered the question instead of playing an endless game of deflection.
Both you and Texan would never vote for Trump to be PotUS.
I agree with your position.
Reciprocated....
That is bullshit. I answered your question completely (covered all the conditions) and you responded with simplistic, cliché snark.
Would you ever vote for Trump to be PotUS?
See 4.1.68,.. and shove your condescension.
If you have a question you do not think I answered then ask it in specific terms.
I did. Thank you for your time Tig...
You asked:
I told you that I answered that (preemptively) @4.1.11. This part, in particular:
—and then I added this per your post—
That is a rather complete answer. So what part of your question did I not answer?
You stated that you will not vote for Trump or Biden. So if the choice comes down to those two you and I might be voting the same way (if there is no realistic chance for Trump to win). What, specifically, is the problem with my answer?
“Should he be silenced or censored?”
Absolutely not.
His words, and his brand of invective requires serious and deliberate analysis lest it become commonplace. So yes, allow it but don’t disparage those who question the content, the motive, or the potential consequences.
And that goes for anyone in the public forum.
This may be one of the best things I have read here! Kudos to you!
America is a shithole? There is the door Bubba. I'm sure Russia will take you in.
Only parts of America can be defined as shitholes. Can you guess what they all have in common?
Spoiler alert....
I have been to all and your characterization of them as shit holes is inaccurate at the very best. You can get on the boat with Tucker.
Oh, I must be mistaken
You sound like Don Lemon telling people there was no crime in NYC because he went out and had a nice dinner
No kidding, fine examples of the hasty generalization fallacy.
You are mistaken. How many people in how many neighborhoods across how many square miles do you think San Francisco is comprised of? To generalize from the one to the many is the logical fallacy that your comment displays.
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I like it: Dr. Fallacy
And in redneckland.....
I find it best if I avoid visiting the whole Southern tier of the US.
I'm lily-white, so... no problem.
Sunscreen works.
The whole of the nation and the world is just full of people who will be your friend, and areas of great beauty both natural and man-made.
There are messy places everywhere.
My friends don't come in my office at work, but that is by design.
Meanwhile in LA
Are you looking for an "ugly pictures" contest? What would it prove?
What was the purpose of 5.1.7?
same as 5.1
There you go.
The problem being that I would miss SXSW and Key West.
Also a white boy, but with a huge mouth.
That lying POS has been spinning that trope for years. “Don’t speak up! Don’t ask questions. Or they’ll git ya!” He’s pathetic.
There should be some kind of law against broadcasters who sow the potential for harm with lies and misinformation. I really doubt Jan 6 would have happened without certain outlets spreading Trump's lies for months as if they were the honest to goodness truth.
I keep waiting for the arc of justice to come around and smack the living shit out of scumbags like Tucker Carlson.
Don't hold your breath.
I don't know, Alex Jones got run through the wringer pretty well. But I guess that still didn't shut him up.
Oh well, a person can always hope. lol
I miss Walter Cronkite.