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Mark Meadows Flips, Exposes Trump's Election Lies

  
Via:  John Russell  •  3 years ago  •  28 comments

By:   Ellie Quinlan Houghtaling (The New Republic)

 Mark Meadows Flips, Exposes Trump's Election Lies
Donald Trump's former chief of staff has turned against him.

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Donald Trump's former chief of staff has turned against him.


Donald Trump's "special friend" and last chief of staff, Mark Meadows, has completely flipped against his former boss, testifying before a grand jury that Trump was fundamentally "dishonest" about his 2020 presidential election fraud claims.

Meadows allegedly met with special counsel Jack Smith's team three times this year, reported ABC News Tuesday. The former Trump ally agreed to have one of those meetings occur before a federal grand jury in exchange for immunity.

According to unnamed sources that spoke with the outlet, Meadows told federal investigators that Trump knew he was lying when he claimed he won mere hours after the polls closed on election night and that his losses in key states were all "a major fraud."

"Obviously we didn't win," one source recalled Meadows saying.

Meadows also claimed that he had insisted to Trump that his voting fraud allegations were completely unfounded, the outlet reported.

To this day, Meadows said he has yet to see any evidence of fraud. The former Trump aide, who openly mocked the election claims in the weeks following the vote, ultimately agreed with government assessments that the 2020 election was one of the most secure in the nation's history.

More on Flippers:Let the Flipping Continue: Trump Election Lawyer Turns Against HimEllie Quinlan Houghtaling/October 24, 2023/9:17 p.m. ET


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 years ago

To grant him immunity, Meadows must have sung like a bird. 

He better hire some private security to protect him from the coming death threats. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago

What does he need immunity from?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    3 years ago

www.rawstory.com   /meadows-significant-trump/

'Hugely significant': Mark Meadows could prove Trump cheered violence on Jan. 6


He holds the keys to the kingdom's dining room.

Now that   former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows has taken a plea deal to testify in the federal presidential election subversion trial , the former lead investigator of the Jan. 6 Select Committee suspects this provides prosecutors a massive missing piece of the alleged inaction on behalf of the 45th president that fateful day.

Timothy Heaphy, who fronted the Jan. 6th Select Committee investigation, recalled on MSNBC a critical moment that he and his team were able to learn about through multiple witnesses they interviewed involving White House Counsel for President   Trump   sprinting to the dining room of the Executive Mansion.

"...when Pat Cipollone comes rushing down to [Meadows'] office and says 'They're breaking into the Capitol" and Meadows looks over at him and he says 'Pat, you know he doesn't want to do anything,'" Heaphy said, during an appearance with   MSNBC's Nicole Wallace on "Deadline White House" .

"So to the extent Meadows is fully truthful and corroborates the president's resistance to call off those same angry insurrectionists... that as you say are they are going to prison when a lot of these lawyers and others are not -- that's really really significant," Heaphy said.

He added: "Because, because again it goes to state of mind.

"The president's passivity and refusal to speak out against the violence when it happened is really really significant."

It is Heaphy's belief that now that Meadow's has turned federal witness for Jack Smith and his team, that the goods on what Trump did -- and perhaps potentially more significant -- didn't do will come out into the sunlight.

"I think the [Jan. 6] report says that the president over the course of the day after someone is shot, becomes increasingly concerned, but when implored early on to stop it and call it off, he says 'Remain peaceful!' You know, 'Stay calm!'"

Heaphy infers that it took the death of   35-year-old Air Force veteran, Ashli Babbitt, 35, who was shot by a police officer   when she attempted to enter the House chamber where lawmakers were sheltering in place.

"It takes somebody getting murdered inside the Capitol to finally change the narrative," said Heaphy. "Even then, an hour-and-a half later, [President Trump] offers this passive statement about: 'We love you, but this is what happens..."

The former investigator believes now with Meadows being on the hook to testify under oath he can "shed light" on not only the goings-on in the White House dining room, but also the real-time, minute-to-minute account, which potentially includes the president almost cheering for it, even gleefully looking at the violence and refusing to call it off.

"Huge huge hugely significant for Jack Smith."

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 years ago

Ashley Bobbitt was not murdered.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    3 years ago
Ron Filipkowski
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Trump sits in court all day listening to Michael Cohen testify that his business empire is a facade, has a reporter tell him about Jenna Ellis’s plea deal as he’s walking out, then gets in his car to learn Mark Meadows testified against him to a grand jury on an immunity deal.
 
 
 
TᵢG
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4  TᵢG    3 years ago

One continues to wonder what it will take to break the confirmation bias in Trump supporters and get them to withdraw from their cult-like, delusional view of Trump.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @4    3 years ago
One continues to wonder what it will take to break the confirmation bias in Trump supporters and get them to withdraw from their cult-like, delusional view of Trump.

More than this. I just hope it convinces some independents to go against him. 

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.1  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    3 years ago

If independents want to continue with a democracy don't worry about communism taking hold as it is contained. Worry about oligarchial control becoming the norm and pressing down on us all! 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    3 years ago
I just hope it convinces some independents to go against him. 

I have a hard time imagining how a political independent could vote for Trump.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.1.4  Gsquared  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.3    3 years ago

I have a hard time imagining how anyone with more than half a brain could vote for Trump.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.4    3 years ago

Die hard partisans will hold their noses and vote for Trump because they have convinced themselves that their party must win no matter what.

While I vehemently disagree with such thinking, I can at least understand why a die hard partisan would vote for Trump.

An independent would not, by definition, be stupidly loyal to a political party, so the reasoning for an independent is different ... and I cannot imagine what reasoning would cause an independent to vote for Trump given what we all know about Trump.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.6  Krishna  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.4    3 years ago
how anyone with more than half a brain could vote for Trump.

Well-- don't assume that most of them do indeed have half a brain and based on their behaviour some have less.

(Where is Jordan Klepper when you need him?) 

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.7  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.1.6    3 years ago
(Where is Jordan Klepper when you need him?) 

Found him! (" That was easy")  

Jordan Klepper Confronts Deeply Clueless Trump Fans in New Hampshire

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2  Krishna  replied to  TᵢG @4    3 years ago
One continues to wonder what it will take to break the confirmation bias in Trump supporters and get them to withdraw from their cult-like, delusional view of Trump.

My guess is that some of them never will.

Many of them will spend the rest of their lives believing in Trump as some sort of god. (Cults are like that . . . )

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5  Hal A. Lujah    3 years ago

Meadows is a dead man walking.  Poor Trump just can’t catch a break from the dozens of (best) people he hired only to later spew outrageous lies about him.  Maga zombies are going to be out for blood.

 
 
 
JBB
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6  JBB    3 years ago

Slowly they turn. One by one. Step by step. Inch by inch. Then, POW!

original

 
 
 
MrFrost
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6.1  MrFrost  replied to  JBB @6    3 years ago
Then, POW!

....right in the kisser.

 
 
 
JBB
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6.1.1  JBB  replied to  MrFrost @6.1    3 years ago

More like, "Right Intoda Slamma"...

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1.2  Krishna  replied to  MrFrost @6.1    3 years ago
Then, POW!
....right in the kisser.

Where is that line from-- so familiar but I can't remember who said it. (Three Stooges"? )

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.1.3  Kavika   replied to  Krishna @6.1.2    3 years ago

The Honeymooners, Jackie Gleason.

 
 
 
JBB
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6.1.4  JBB  replied to  Kavika @6.1.3    3 years ago

The "Slowly I Turned" line of bs is from a classic old vaudevillian act called, "The Niagara Bit". Both The 3 Stooges and Abbott and Costello recorded versions of it. Jackie Glen was referencing this with his famous line, "One of these days Alice, POW! Right in the kisses! Straight to the moon". Domestic abuse used to be so funny /s...

 
 
 
Kavika
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7  Kavika     3 years ago

Badda Bing

 
 
 
CB
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8  CB    3 years ago

Heads up! I just heard on the news on Alex Wagner Tonight Mark Meadows is not actually a compliant witness, but is hedging his 'bet.'  That is, he is carving out a sort of immunity (sub-category/limited) for himself with his lawyer'/s' aid. (He may not be putting Trump on 'front street' where he deserves to be!)

 
 
 
Gsquared
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9  Gsquared    3 years ago

Taking predictions on when Trump is going to show up in Moscow and announce that "the most fantastic, greatest, biggest, most amazing business deal in history" has come up for his company, so he will be staying there "for a while".

 
 
 
CB
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9.1  CB  replied to  Gsquared @9    3 years ago

I think one of the judges has ordered Trump's passport removed to hinder any foreign travel since being indicted!!

 
 
 
cjcold
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9.1.1  cjcold  replied to  CB @9.1    3 years ago

Trump has his own plane and I'm sure Putin won't mind if he doesn't have a passport.

 
 
 
CB
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9.1.2  CB  replied to  cjcold @9.1.1    3 years ago

U.S. courts will mind. If Trump leaves this country without a passport. . .he will be in contempt of court and will have committed a crime of leaving the country.

 
 

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