What Is The End Game For Maga?
What do MAGAs want, or expect will happen, in America over the next 20 years?
They seem, in general, to believe that America can revert back to the pre- civil rights era, the pre-womens rights era, and the pre-same sex marriage era, and the pre-gender issues era, none of which will ever ever happen. Time flows in only one direction, as does "progress", and America cannot revisit olden or "better" days . That is the purpose of nostalgia.
One of the major themes of MAGA , which I dont believe any thinking person would dispute, is "we want our country back", back from racial minorities, back from feminists, back from queer people, back from progressivism. Older folks from both sides of politics wish they could get the world before smartphones, facebook or Instagram back. When AI takes total hold there will be millions of people nostalgic for the pre artificial intelligence days. Does anyone think AI will be derailed or minimized because some people dont like it?
Donald Trump's base appeal is that he can hold back change, and put the racial minorities, women, "woke" people and sexual "misfits" in their place, hence "Make America Great AGAIN". The word again implies "not current".
Who are the people who are "losing their country"? And what do they want and what do they expect to get?
The stock market goes up, like it always does, crime is less severe than it was in many decades in the past half century, people have endless entertainment and information at their fingertips. People travel more than ever, Records for numbers of travelers are broken all the time.
Some people dont want black history, or any minority history, taught in schools. There is a nostalgia for the founding out of touch with reality. We still base societal decisions ( through the Supreme Court) on what was written down 250 years ago.
America will become majority minority within the next few decades , and nothing will prevent that. Yet, many want to "go back" and will invade the US Capitol in an effort to put their finger in the dike. Blood will be spilled over all this. But in the end time marches on.
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MAGA will never be a majority. And the country cannot be united around MAGA principles.
the end game for maga is the complete destruction of US democracy, revision of the constitution, and installation of a thumper theocracy.
Without using useless slogans in 1.1, what exactly are "MAGA principles" and what proof that these "principles" are even real.
What does MAGA want?
First you have to identify what MAGA is, why the slogan is insulting to you and what it is you don't like about whatever this MAGA is.
It's a very straightforward question. Either answer it or be quiet. Trolling will be deleted.
OK...I don't know.
I know what it means..
Make America Great Again.
Why does that disturb you?
“Make America Great Again.
Why does that disturb you?”
It is but a failing movement with a manufactured slogan.
It adorns, hats, shirts, flags, bumper stickers, etc. etc. with lots of emotion, but no context.
Whose America? What does it mean if their adherents can’t or won’t address it? When was America great? Where do we go from here?
Until these basic questions can be honestly asked and answered, it is and will remain disturbing, deleterious, and dangerous.
Donald Trump was the king birther in 2011. He never stopped asking questions about Obama's background until late in the 2016 campaign when it appeared his birtherism might hurt him with independents.
Trumps support has always had a major proportion of racists, xenophobes, and homophobes, in its ranks.
It's the only reason he rose in politics.
Huge problem is that many on the liberal left seem firmly convinced that all conservatives, especially those that don't like or vote for Trump, just absolutely have to me MAGA's. If you do not share the left's particular political worldview, you just have to be a scum of the Earth MEGA rat as they see it. Seen a share of that here on NT. Seems it just is not convenient to them to separate the two.
Polls say that the majority of Republican primary voters are MAGA as hell, and yet finding those who will own it is nearly impossible!
Narrator: They don't.
Did the slogan bother you when it was used by Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush in their 1980 campaign?
Did the slogan bother you when in his 1991 presidential announcement speech he said "I believe that together we can make America great again,"
Or does it only bother people when Trump uses it?
Who Was the First Politician to Use "Make America Great Again" Anyway? (yahoo.com)
Damn polls:
A majority of Americans disapprove of the way Biden has handled five different policy areas, results that are between one and six points worse than the last time Monmouth asked these questions. Specifically, just over 2 in 3 disapprove of the president’s performance on immigration (69%) and inflation (68%), while more than half feel the same about the way he has handled climate change (54%), jobs and unemployment (53%), and transportation and energy infrastructure (52%). While Biden’s fellow Democrats tend to approve of the job he has done in most of these areas, they are divided on his immigration efforts (50% approve and 47% disapprove). Also, while 62% of Democrats approve of how Biden has handled inflation, a sizable 35% disapprove.
I stopped believing any political polls long ago as the results are entirely dependent on who commissioned said polls. Pollsters routinely poll anywhere from 400 to 1400 people in a certain geographic/demographic area and manipulate results to suit those that commissioned the poll in the first place. Then they try to make it look like a whole segment of the population agrees with them. Both right and left are guilty of doing so, but seems more prevalent by the liberal left in the last three years under the Biden/Harris administration.
Yet, Trump is running away with the gop nomination!
Come Out MAGA! Come Out Where You Are! Own It...
The same questions posed applied then and certainly are relevant today.
The inability to answer them then and refuse to address them now says all you need know about those who would sadly and simply rather not be bothered.
The phrase "Make America Great Again" is not in itself bad.
But we operate within context and within context, that slogan is the banner for Trump. Everything that Trump does falls within that banner.
Thus that phrase when used by someone like Bush has an entirely different meaning than that phrase used as Trump's banner slogan.
Does everyone get the picture?
Or does it only bother people when Trump uses it?
That's easy. The hatred of trump overrides all sense.
MAGA when used by Trump or a Trump supporter is a reference to Trump's political banner. MAGATrump = Trumpism.
To people that dont feel the need to change definitions because of their hatred of Trump MAGA=Make America Great Again, just as it has been used before Trump.
What definition has been changed? And how, precisely, do you think it has changed?
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It certainly is an exciting movement.
I watched some of the film from Nevada last night and I found it very interesting.
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it's fascist idolatry, a personality cult for the misinformed and gullible.
The good news is that merely being a MAGA is an extremely effective form birth control. What are the chances this guy ever gets any?
I'm not so sure about that, there are plenty of female MAGAs.
True, the "She MAGAs" are out there and they're looking for love...
So how was the date?
ask her at the next family reunion...
I was asking the poster as he is the one who copied her profile so it is natural to assume there is some tie there.
Nasty boy
I'll second that...
t America can revert back to the pre- civil rights era, the pre-womens rights era, and the pre-same sex marriage era, and the pre-gender issues era, none of which will ever ever happen.
There is nothing so bizarre as the fantasy world progressives have constructed as to what MAGA supposedly is and wants. Trump was literally President for four years. None of this happened, nor was there any attempt to make it happen. At the end of it and continuing to this day, his support has increased among minorities and women, while falling among white males.
Trumps existence as a politician is completely dependent on longing for a pre-change era. His followers believe him when he says he is the only one who can accomplish this.
Sean, do you think the country can be united through a MAGA mindset? Ramaswamy does, and Trump may, but they are clueless.
The imaginary MAGA you describe? No.
Do you really think the Biden "your rights are determined by your race" and "biology is a vibe" mindset is going to unite the country? Your entire ideology is premised on dividing people based on their race/gender/sexual orientation with open borders/migrant camps and shit filled cities where crime isn't punished will somehow magically unite the country?
Ok, tell us what MAGA wants.
Tell us exactly what "MAGA" is first.
The definition comes from Biden so you might need to get a gibberish decoder ring first.
I thought they were still years away from a decoder ring for the queen of cackle.
But hey, you know that if Trump gets re-elected he will burn the Constitution, send out the federal agents and military to round up all blacks/commies/lesbians/Muslims and all them wrong-headed folk and put them into camps in preparation for deportation. It don't matter where they go so long as they ain't here. He will sign EO's to establish a gubment church where attendance is mandatory. /S
Yes, the above is MAJOR SCARCISM for those who feel they must copy/paste this.
what does maga want or expect?
Why don't you ask them?
I would like to ask all the MAGA's, what do you like about Victor Orban? In his rally speech on Saturday Trump referred to Orban as "greatly respected".
It is funny when people seem to pretend to know what MAGA wants when they can't even define who MAGA is.
I know what MAGA want - they want "their" country back.
Are you going to address the seed?
If that is the case than there may be about 100 of them and they are insignificant.
L O L
Just like people who are against "woke-ism" yet cannot define it.
American history is riddled with political parties, philosophies, and movements that have faded into obscurity. They all had one thing in common as they spoke to a singular and thus minority segment of the electorate…those who, for whatever reason felt disenfranchised, were more angry than conciliatory, more fearful than realistic, and cared more about who they followed than caring about the ramifications their beliefs may have affected the country as a whole.
…maga will eventually find itself in the dustbin of history as well, for all the same reasons.
many examples of the trump brain trust...
Literacy sufficiency is a big problem in America.
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If Biden is the Dems last and best hope, Trump will be re-elected. Time is growing short to replace him. The left is not taking this bit of reality seriously.
If the DNC does decide to swap in another to replace Biden the timeline is indeed very short. Several states have already seen their deadlines pass to register to get the name on the primary ballot.
Deadline to run for president, 2024 - Ballotpedia
Good point.
Wait, didn't you say that 4 years ago???
From what I gather few goppers admit being MAGA or voting for Trump or support him for the gop nomination. Trump is the Democrats fault for not supporting Trump to begin with?
Hmmm...
I get dizzy trying to keep up with the latest MAGA spin.
simply seeing videos like this are enough for most normal people who don’t support open borders to say “something needs to be done.” when joe Biden and democrats cheer it on, it makes everyone else seems normal by comparison.
“BREAKING: Video from a contact on the ground in Eagle Pass, TX right now shows a mass of thousands of migrants waiting to be processed by Border Patrol after they crossed illegally today. I’ve spent hundreds of days there over the last 2+ years and I’ve never seen it like this.”