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Far Right Israeli Leaders Want To Send 2 million Gazans to Latin America and Africa

  
By:  John Russell  •  2 years ago  •  34 comments


Far Right Israeli Leaders Want To Send 2 million Gazans to Latin America and Africa
 

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Last week, Likud MK Danny Danon said in an interview with Kan Bet radio that Israel "has to make it easier for Gazans to leave for other countries," explaining that this would in fact be a humanitarian gesture towards their neighbors.

"I'm talking about voluntary migration by Palestinians who want to leave," he said, adding that he has already been contacted by "countries in Latin America and Africa that are willing to absorb refugees from the Gaza Strip. "

Last month, Intelligence Minister Gila Gamliel published an op-ed in the Jerusalem Post with a similar suggestion, calling on Western countries to take in the residents of the Gaza Strip, in an act of "voluntary resettlement. " Shortly after the publication of the op-ed, the Israeli Embassy in Washington was forced to clarify that this didn't reflect government policy.

Most notably, at a meeting of Likud Knesset members last week, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu himself suggested that he sees mass transfer of Palestinian civilians out of Gaza a positive outcome of the war.

'100-200,000, Not Two Million': Israel's Finance Minister Envisions Depopulated Gaza - Israel News - Haaretz.com



News shows are reporting this morning that Israeli military leaders are suggesting that the war in Gaza will last the entire length of 2024.

Netanyahu breathed a huge sigh of relief. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    2 years ago

They can go Latin America and be miserable or stay in Gaza and be miserable. 

How do you get 2 million people to move to the other side of the world involuntarily?

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.1  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

You don't.

Bibi is planning on making life so unsustainable and miserable in Gaza that those that don't get killed off will have to flee.

I also highly question those countries Israel thinks wants Palestinian refugees, really do.

The Palestinian refugees wouldn't speak the native language, would have to have all of their needs supplied by the host country, would need jobs, and reeducation/education. Think of any African or South American countries rich enough to handle that?

How long would it be before the US saw hordes of Palestinian illegal immigrants on our southern border? 

Israel is trying to foist a problem they are directly responsible for on the rest of the world. If Brandon had any balls he would stand up to them and make sure they know mass relocation (or mass killing) of Palestinians isn't acceptable under any circumstances.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1    2 years ago
"The Palestinian refugees wouldn't speak the native language, would have to have all of their needs supplied by the host country, would need jobs, and reeducation/education."

That's essentially the problem we have now.  Refugees from all over the world are coming here with no means and probably few skills. We are supplying almost all the needs for a vast majority of them....with no end in sight, until Biden is gone. And it's doubtful another million two will make much difference.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1    2 years ago
I also highly question those countries Israel thinks wants Palestinian refugees, really do.

Read the article again.

it did not say that "Israel" thinks that. 

Rather, it said "Far right leaders".

All Israelis are not "far right".

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.3  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1    2 years ago
also highly question those countries Israel thinks wants Palestinian refugees, really do.

Two countries border Gaza. One of them is an Arab country (Egypt). with a culture, language, etc that is much closer to Gaza's than are the countries of Latin America! In addition, most Egyptian land is sparsely populated.

And Jordan is close as well.

Both of these Arab countries have adamantly opposed taking in Gaza refugees. So what make anyone think Latin American countries would want them?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

"I'm talking about voluntary migration by Palestinians who want to leave"

What would they gain by staying in that rubble strewn shithole with a conflict that could go on for months. There is nothing left there, no housing, no jobs, limited medical care, nothing. 

Biden could declare a humanitarian crisis and bring them to the US under a special program. Or they could go to South America, or even Europe or Asia....their voluntary choice. This would mostly pertain to those who want to leave...families, women, the sick and elderly. The worthless fanatical Nazi scum who want to exterminate the Jews can remain there and await their fate.

After all, over 2.8 million people entered the US via the southern border last year, showing that we could absorb a couple million more without much trouble.

How many migrants crossed the border in 2023? More people are arriving (usatoday.com)

 
 
 
charger 383
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1.2.1  charger 383  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    2 years ago

       "Biden could declare a humanitarian crisis and bring them to the US under a special program."

Don't give him any more bad ideas, we have too many problems already

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.3  Ronin2  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    2 years ago

Gaza is their home. Even if it is just a pile of rubble. Going from having something- even if it is just rubble right now- to having nothing somewhere else; with people that probably view you as an invader sucking down their resources; and you don't speak the same language or have the same customs. What could go wrong?/S

Hard to leave one's homeland- especially when you are forced out. There is nothing voluntary about fleeing the conditions imposed on them by a hostile foreign country; and a bunch of domestic terrorists.

As for the US absorbing a couple of million more- we don't have the resources to care for the illegals coming into the country now. Especially if Brandon does the same wonderful job on the Afghan refugees; who they lost track of the second they hit US soil. None of them were vetted, and I am sure they couldn't hope to vet all of the Palestinians either. Just how many foreign terrorists in this country will it take for another 9/11? Brandon really wants to find out.

The simple solution is for the US to force Israel to the negotiation table (we cut them off from all aid; and they will cease to exist); and allow Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and (Iran-should make them overjoyed) to force the Palestinians on their end. Then all countries combined negotiate a binding peace deal. Israel and the Palestinians can nod and shut up; or be left penniless to throw stones at each other for the rest of time.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2.4  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.3    2 years ago
The simple solution is for the US to force Israel to the negotiation table (we cut them off from all aid; and they will cease to exist);

WTF?

A while back Israel wanted to build a nuclear reactor. But they couldn't produce a needed item ("Heavy Water"). Getting it from the U.S. was out of the question. So what could Israel do?

Without going into details-- they got it from Norway.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.5  Ronin2  replied to  Krishna @1.2.4    2 years ago

Where do you think they got the money to pay for that Heavy Water?

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2.6  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.5    2 years ago
Where do you think they got the money to pay for that Heavy Water?

Israel is one of the top countries in highly advanced computer technology. (Many tech startups have been bought by large American tech giants).

In addition, due to their innovative agricultural techniques, they have a thriving agricultural arena.

And with sites like Bethlehem and Jerusalem, tourism is quite lucrative. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2.7  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.3    2 years ago
Hard to leave one's homeland- especially when you are forced out.

Yes-- that's why the U.S. has never had any significant immigration by people from war torn countries!

(/sarc)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2.8  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    2 years ago
"Biden could declare a humanitarian crisis and bring them to the US under a special program...."

That would certainly please at least 2 Democrat Congress members.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2.9  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.3    2 years ago
"Hard to leave one's homeland..."

Good people don't necessarily have trouble building a new life for themselves, even going to the other side of the world.  Maybe ones that have for generations preferred to rely on refugee handouts do.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.3  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

Ask Greg Abbott. He has a plan.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago
"How do you get 2 million people to move to the other side of the world involuntarily?"

Ban UNRWA from supporting them. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     2 years ago

The largest concentration of Palestinians outside the M/E is in Chile over 500,000 and Central American countries including Mexico have a large population of Palestinians.

The majority of the estimated 100,000 Palestinians in the   European Union   (EU) are in   Denmark ,   France ,   Germany ,   Greece ,   Italy , the   Netherlands ,   Spain   and   Sweden . Outside the EU is the   United Kingdom ,   Norway   and   Switzerland . Germany's capital   Berlin   has one of the largest Palestinian communities outside of the Middle East with about 30,000-40,000 people of Palestinian origin residing in the city (~1% of the total population). [15]

Not not that the RW Israeli government move is justified by this, but it seems that they want to clear both the West Bank and Gaza of all Palestinians.

During one of the Zionist Conferences in the early 1900s, Africa was a continent/country that was supported by some Jews as the new Israel.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @2    2 years ago
Not not that the RW Israeli government move is justified by this

They RW Israeli government has as much of a chance of succeeding with this as the U.S. RW has a chance of of making all Abortion illegal in all 50 states.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @2    2 years ago
Germany's capital   Berlin   has one of the largest Palestinian communities outside of the Middle East with about 30,000-40,000 people of Palestinian origin residing in the city (~1% of the total population).

How's that been working out so far?

A hostile attitude toward Muslims is widespread in large sections of German society.   Its manifestations are an everyday reality.   One in two people in Germany agrees with anti-Muslim statements.

These are the findings published this Thursday (June 29) by the Independent Expert Panel on Hostility against Muslims (UEM) in its final report, "Islamophobia — A German Balance Sheet."

The expert council was appointed after   the racist attack in Hanau in 2020   and commissioned to conduct the study.

In more than 400 pages, the nine authors describe society based on scientific studies, police crime statistics and documentation of anti-Muslim incidents by anti-discrimination agencies, counseling centers and NGOs.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.3  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @2    2 years ago
Germany's capital   Berlin   has one of the largest Palestinian communities outside of the Middle East with about 30,000-40,000 people of Palestinian origin residing in the city (~1% of the total population). [15]

Modern day Germany is committed to combatting anti-Semitism. But that task does create challenges:

Antisemitism Among Muslim Migrants Unsettles Germany

Now anti-Jewish sentiment is surging in the country’s large and growing Muslim community, much expanded by the country’s openness to asylum seekers from a war-ravaged Middle East.

Since Palestinian militant group Hamas’s Oct. 7 assault on Israel—which included a series of terror attacks on a dance party and farming communities and left more than 1,400 people dead—Jews in Germany have faced violence on German streets and authorities say antisemitic crimes have surged .

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Kavika @2    2 years ago

One thing to consider is that even if they did emigrate elsewhere from Gaza, they would most likely be taking their hatred and biases against non Muslims with them. How many of the host countries would really want to deal with that? They have already seen what has happened elsewhere.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.4.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.4    2 years ago

I anecdotally disagree Ed. I think that Arabs do Ok when they emigrate and leave their toxic ME environment behind.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
2.4.2  Krishna  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.4.1    2 years ago
I anecdotally disagree Ed. I think that Arabs do Ok when they emigrate and leave their toxic ME environment behind.

Some do-- others don't.

Its an over-generalization to claim that all members of any group are all the same!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.4.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Krishna @2.4.2    2 years ago

You’re right, didn’t mean to over-generalize but think that by and large, Arabs out side the ME do better than those inside.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
3  charger 383    2 years ago

What country would want Palestinian refugees? 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  charger 383 @3    2 years ago

Maybe Syria, they have a lot of vacancies.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
3.1.1  Krishna  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1    2 years ago
Maybe Syria, they have a lot of vacancies.

Well, certainly not most of their other Arab neighbors:

Jordan’s King Abdullah II: Palestinian refugees entering Jordan or Egypt is ‘red line’

Jordanian King Abdullah II says that neither his country nor Egypt will accept Palestinian refugees, declaring it a “red line.” “There will be no refugees in Jordan and no refugees in Egypt.”

Many people probably don't remember this-- but at one point Egypt actually built a large wall on their border with Gaza to keep Gazans out of Egypt!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
3.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.1.1    2 years ago

Many people probably don't remember this-- but at one point Egypt actually built a large wall on their border with Gaza to keep Gazans out of Egypt!

They really wanted to keep the Palestinians out of their country-- and they wanted to protect Egyptian citizens from sniper attacks and other violent attacks by the "Palestinians:

The   Egypt–Gaza barrier   is a steel   border barrier   constructed by   Egypt   along its 14 kilometres (7.5 miles)   border with the Gaza Strip . The   Rafah border crossing   is the only border crossing between the Gaza Strip and Egypt.

 Egypt started building a steel wall along the Gaza border.

Tthe wall will be 10–11 km (6–7 miles) long and extend 18 metres (60 feet) below the surface. The wall was to be completed in 18 months. [1]

On 29 October 2014, Egypt began demolishing homes on its side of the border with the Gaza Strip as part of a planned 500 metres (550 yards) buffer zone intended to prevent weapons smuggling into the Gaza Strip. [2]

In February 2020, Egypt began building a new 3 kilometre (2 mile) concrete wall along its border with the Gaza Strip, from Gaza's southeastern tip.

  The new wall is in addition to the old wall, and will not be more than 8 metres (30') from the old one. Both walls are within Egyptian territory. The wall will be 7 metres (20') high and will be equipped with electronic sensors. [4]

Egypt reinforced the border with several hundred troops to protect construction crews from Palestinian sniper attacks. [5]

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
3.1.3  charger 383  replied to  Krishna @3.1.2    2 years ago

Egypt is very wise to build a solid wall at the border

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
3.1.4  Krishna  replied to  charger 383 @3.1.3    2 years ago
Egypt is very wise to build a solid wall at the border

I forgot to post a follow up. What happened with that wall? The Gazans finally were able to knock it down!

Photo

Photo is behind NYTimes paywall. (I'm not going to spend time looking fr it elsewhere)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @3.1.2    2 years ago

But unfortunately they are not sufficiently preventing tunnels. through which much of the Hamas and Islamic Jihad weaponry is smuggled.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Krishna @3.1.1    2 years ago
Many people probably don't remember this-- but at one point Egypt actually built a large wall on their border with Gaza to keep Gazans out of Egypt!

Surprisingly, Egyptians thought a wall effective.

 
 

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