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1 in 4 Americans say the FBI spurred January 6: poll

  
Via:  John Russell  •  2 years ago  •  25 comments


1 in 4 Americans say the FBI spurred January 6: poll
Of the various subgroups, Americans who voted for former President Donald Trump were by far the largest believers in FBI involvement with 44% believing that it is "definitely or probably true" that the bureau "organized and encouraged" the attack. In comparison, just 10% of voters who supported President Joe Biden supported that theory.

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  • A new poll shows an alarming number of Americans continue to believe conspiracies about the Capitol riot.
  • 1 in 4 Americans say it is "definitely or probably true" that the FBI instigated the attack, per the poll.
  • There is no evidence to support such claims.

A sizable portion of Americans continue to believe in the unfounded conspiracy theory that the FBI agents egged on the January 6, 2021 Capitol riot, according to a new poll.


A Washington Post-University of Maryland poll   found that a quarter of Americans say it is either "definitely or probably true" that federal law enforcement officials instigated the attacks, despite repeated denials and multiple investigations showing no evidence to support the unfounded theory. The findings underline how nearly two years later, misinformation about the attack that took place during a critical moment in the peaceful transition of power continues to take hold nationwide.

Multiple investigations into the Capitol riot have shown no evidence of anything remotely resembling the type of FBI involvement put forward by many right-wing commentators. Some claims have been thoroughly debunked, including the possibility of   Ray Epps being a federal agent.

Of the various subgroups, Americans who voted for former President Donald Trump were by far the largest believers in FBI involvement with 44% believing that it is "definitely or probably true" that the bureau "organized and encouraged" the attack. In comparison, just 10% of voters who supported President Joe Biden supported that theory.

Trump has   promised to pardon   a " large portion" of people   convicted of offenses related to the Capitol riot. He has also promised apologies for many as well.

FBI Director Christopher Wray has appeared exasperated at times during congressional testimony when asked about the theories. He has stressed on multiple occasions that his bureau's agents did not encourage rioters to stage the most disastrous attack on the Capitol in modern memory.

"I will say this notion that somehow the violence at the Capitol on January 6 was part of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources and agents is ludicrous and is a disservice to our brave, hardworking, dedicated men and women,"   Wray told House lawmakers in July.

The FBI has been at the core of investigating the riot. The bureau undertook one of largest manhunts in its history, resulting in charges against more than 1,200 people and over 900 convictions thus far,   per PBS.


As for January 6's staying power in politics look no further than the fact that multiple people connected to the riot have run for office, including Congress. Derrick Evans, a former West Virginia state lawmaker who screamed on a live stream about entering the Capitol, is currently running for a House seat in the state.

Evans is believed to be the first person who served prison time related to January 6 to seek elected office,   according to The Associated Press.

The poll was December 14-18 among a random national sample of 1,024 U.S adults. The margin of error for the full sample is +/- 4.1 percentage points.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

I wonder how long all the "independents" in this country are going to wait to get on the right side of these issues. Or are they ok with Trump winning in November ? 

Are we going to become a country run by people who believe in conspiracy theories? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago
Are we going to become a country run by people who believe in conspiracy theories

Like Russian collusion conspiracy theories?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1    2 years ago
ike Russian collusion conspiracy theories?

the pee tape mafia will cling to power. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.2    2 years ago

So nothing that validates the "steele dossier" and the claims made up by a Democratic public relations executive?

Amazing to me that the party whose members believe Trump was a Russian agent, Russians changed votes in the 2016 election to give Trump the win, and that Hunter's laptop was Russian misinformation can even pretend to be upset about others conspiracy theories.  They've been pushing election conspiracies every time they've lost  since 2000, and then act stunned that Republicans eventually did the same. Guess what? You spend 20 years claiming elections are rigged and the other side will start to believe it's possible too. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.6  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.3    2 years ago
I wonder how many foreigners intersected with Biden

It all depends on how much they were offered/

 
 
 
George
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1.1.7  George  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.3    2 years ago
I wonder how many foreigners intersected with Bidens 

It depends on how young they were and what their hair smelled like.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.4    2 years ago

Your perspective on all this is phenomenally skewed. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.8    2 years ago

Take a long hard look in the mirror John.    A very hard, long look.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.10  Krishna  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.9    2 years ago
Take a long hard look in the mirror John.

John is running for president?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  Krishna @1.1.10    2 years ago

Probably could ….. and with same approval numbers as Biden.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.2  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago
Are we going to become a country run by people who believe in conspiracy theories? 

Might as well keep it going.    The last three years have been a hoot. /S

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.3  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago
I wonder how long all the "independents" in this country are going to wait to get on the right side of these issues. Or are they ok with Trump winning in November ? 

Well, according to this article. 3 out of 4 Americans don't believe that the FBI was behind the attack. 

So if that issue the most important decider of the election-- its not looking too good for Trump!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.4  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago
I wonder how long all the "independents" in this country are going to wait to get on the right side of these issues.

Does the poll indicate that it’s independents who think the FBI instigated Jan 6?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

Donald Trump will return to the White House (55 percent)

Predicting a presidential race a year out is tough. As   political scientists Robert Erikson and Christopher Wlezien   have noted, “polls from the beginning of the election year have virtually no predictive power” when it comes to calling presidential races. People still respond to the state of the   economy   the year the election is held and the new facts they learn about the candidates as campaigns progress.

A better approach than using polling is to reference some of the   forecasting models   political scientists have developed for predicting elections in advance. But many of these rely on data that’s only available mid-year, like   presidential approval ratings   or   economic growth in the first half of the year .

The one exception is a   model from political scientist Jay DeSart , which does state-by-state predictions of outcomes based on prior voting habits of the state and the national polling average in October of the year prior to the election. I   plugged October 2023’s head-to-head Biden/Trump polls into the model   and found that it predicts a healthy Trump victory (297 electoral votes to 241), with the median forecast seeing Biden lose Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin but hang on to Michigan.

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But it’s a narrow advantage. The polls I relied on showed an average Trump lead of 0.2 points. A swing of less than 2 points in the polls would lead to a prediction of a Biden victory. So while I think the   public’s lackluster mood toward the economy   and Biden’s relative unpopularity put him at a disadvantage going into 2024, it’ll be a nail-biter for sure.

This, of course, assumes Trump will be on the ballot, and the Colorado Supreme Court’s ruling   disqualifying him   puts that in some doubt. But I don’t think   much   doubt; as   Andrew Prokop explained for Vox , the likely outcome here is that the Supreme Court rules on whether Trump’s participation in the January 6, 2021, insurrection disqualifies him from the ballot, and I cannot envision the Court ruling against Trump, both because of its partisan leanings and out of fear of Trump supporter backlash delegitimizing the Court.   —Dylan Matthew s
 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 years ago

Nothing scares leftists more than voters getting to have a choice.

It might be worth it for Trump to be elected again; just to watch Democrats/leftists shit bricks for 4 more years. Wonder what BS they will put the country through this time; and how many more laws will they break in their effort to get rid of him?

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    2 years ago

Yes, one out of four Americans is a MAGA nutter...

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.2  Tacos!  replied to  JBB @3    2 years ago

I think polls show that about the same amount of people aren’t sure we really went to the moon. Also they think it’s made of cheese.

Apparently, we will always be saddled with a certain percentage of morons.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4  Sparty On    2 years ago

In other news, one in four preferred smooth to crunchy.

 
 
 
Krishna
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5  Krishna    2 years ago

 I    plugged October 2023’s head-to-head Biden/Trump polls into the model      and found that it predicts a healthy Trump victory

Well as a famous yogi once said:

Prediction is difficult especially about the future.

--Yogi Berra

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
6  Tacos!    2 years ago

Sure, because the FBI dragged hundreds of peaceful people, kicking and screaming, up the Capitol steps and walls so they could attack them. Sheesh!

 
 

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