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Donald Trump is a clear and present danger

  
Via:  John Russell  •  2 years ago  •  122 comments

By:   The Editorial Board ( httpswww. inquirer. com)

Donald Trump is a clear and present danger
The presidential election is about more than the traditional policy differences between two candidates. It's about the kind of country we are going to live in and pass on to future generations.

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The Editorial Board ( httpswww. inquirer. com)

With the race for the White House formally beginning with the Iowa caucuses this week, America stands at a political precipice.

The November contest appears headed for a rematch between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Most voters are uninspired by either candidate, but the choice is clear: Will voters choose democracy or a demagogue ?

The stakes are high and the risks are great. America barely survived one Trump term. Another four years could do irrevocable damage .

Despite a chaotic first term that ended with an insurrection and four criminal indictments , Trump still has a hold on the majority of Republican voters. After eight years of driving the daily news cycle, Trump’s corrosive words and deeds have almost become normalized .

Trump spews so many reckless lies , threats , and hate that his norm-busting outrages often get lost or forgotten in the fire hose of information and misinformation coming at voters. Some people find Trump entertaining , while others like that he is crass and cruel . But voters — especially those tuned out or turned off to politics — must grasp the full import of a second Trump presidency.

That’s why The Inquirer Editorial Board plans to spend the next 10 months sounding the alarm that Trump remains a danger to our democracy. We plan to detail Trump’s many flaws and misdeeds while spelling out the risks of a second term , which the twice-impeached former president has made clear will be worse than his first four years .

Put simply, Trump is unfit for office.

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With the White House in the background, then-President Donald Trump speaks at a rally in Washington on Jan. 6, 2021. Jacquelyn Martin / AP

While President Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, may not be the optimal choice for many voters, this election is bigger than the traditional policy differences between the two likely candidates. This is about the kind of country we are going to live in and pass on to future generations.

Indeed, the choice is stark.

Will we side with the better angels of our nature, or elect a reckless tyrant seeking “retribution” ?

Will we elect a president who upholds the Constitution, or one who has suggested terminating it ?

Will we elect a president who believes in the peaceful transfer of power , or one who fomented a deadly insurrection ?

Will we elect a president who believes in the rule of law , or one who has been criminally indicted an unprecedented four times and is campaigning while out on bail ?

Will we elect a president who works with U.S. allies , or one who wants to leave NATO and is inexplicably enamored with war criminal Vladimir Putin?

Will we elect a president who confronts income inequality , or one who kowtows to the ultrarich ?

Will we elect a president who acknowledges racial inequality , or one with a long history of racism ?

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President Donald Trump reaches into his suit jacket to read a quote he made regarding the events in Charlottesville, Va., as he speaks to the media in the lobby of Trump Tower in New York in 2017. Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP

Will we elect a president who appointed a record number of women to his cabinet, or a philanderer who bragged about grabbing women by their genitals , paid off an adult film star , and was found guilty of raping a woman ?

Will we elect a president who is supported by the military , or one who insulted dead soldiers , called top generals “losers,” and suggested executing former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark Milley?

Will we elect a president who aims to combat climate change , or one who views the existential threat to our planet as a hoax ?

Will we elect a president who reads the daily intelligence briefings , or one who spent much of his time in office watching TV or golfing ?

Will we elect a president who pays his taxes , or one who engaged in shady schemes to dodge taxes for years and whose company was convicted of tax fraud ?

Will we elect a president who supports an independent attorney general , or one who would direct the U.S. Justice Department to investigate his enemies ?

Will we elect a president who supports workers , or one whose policies hurt them ?

Will we elect a president who understands he is not above the law , or one who brags about being a dictator ?

Will we elect a president who is decent and honorable , or a narcissistic bully who invokes the rhetoric of some of history’s most malicious figures ?

Trump’s many character flaws are disturbing and divisive. More alarming is how so many Republican officials , religious leaders , and voters continue to support and enable him.

A Biden-Trump rematch will likely depend on turnout among Democrats, independents, and swing voters in a handful of states — including Pennsylvania. With the future of American democracy on the line , understanding Trump as a clear and present danger is paramount.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

This article (Philadelphia Inquirer Editorial) speaks for itself. 

Will we elect a president who is   decent and honorable  , or a   narcissistic   bully  who invokes the rhetoric of some of history’s   most malicious figures  ? Trump’s many   character flaws  are disturbing and divisive. More alarming is how so many   Republican officials  ,   religious leaders  , and   voters  continue to support and enable him.
 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago
decent and honorable

Would like to have that but we certainly won't get that with Biden.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @1.1    2 years ago

You deflect to Biden on a Trump topic.

We just started the primary season.   Right now the choice is not Trump v Biden but, for the GOP, Trump v. Haley or DeSantis.

Does it not bother you that the GOP is all in for Trump and is going (apparently) to nominate this miserable character rather than someone who (relative to Trump) is substantially more decent and more honorable?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.1    2 years ago

Wrong, the article brings up Biden.    I’m told, by the back room, that makes it fair game.    Right?

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.3  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.1    2 years ago
You deflect to Biden on a Trump topic.

Biden is mentioned in the article, so fair game.

Not going to play your question games today.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.2    2 years ago

The article is about Trump.    Deflecting to Biden is (as usual) avoiding the question of why people are supporting Trump rather than Haley or DeSantis.

Do you understand that we are in the primary season?

We are not in the general.   The GOP is picking its nominee.   Why is the GOP seeking to nominate Trump vs Haley or DeSantis?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @1.1.3    2 years ago
Biden is mentioned in the article, so fair game.

Does not matter.   You are still deflecting.

The choice is Trump v. Haley or DeSantis.

Why is the GOP seeking to nominate Trump vs Haley or DeSantis?

Why are you defending Trump instead of acknowledging his wrongdoings and pushing for Haley or DeSantis?

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.6  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.4    2 years ago
The article is about Trump.

So?

Again, Biden is mentioned in the article several times so it is allowed to bring into the thread.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.7  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.5    2 years ago

Not playing your never ending question games today.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @1.1.6    2 years ago

I did not claim you cannot mention Biden.   I noted that you deflected to Biden rather than deal with the direct challenge of why the GOP (and you) support Trump rather than Haley or DeSantis.

You keep deflecting and running from a direct challenge.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.10  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.4    2 years ago

So the article itself is deflecting to Biden?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.10    2 years ago

Do you understand that we are in the primary season?

We are not in the general.   The GOP is picking its nominee.   Why is the GOP seeking to nominate Trump vs Haley or DeSantis?

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.12  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.9    2 years ago
You keep deflecting and running from a direct challenge.

Once again....

opinion.

Like assholes, everyone has one

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.1.13  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @1.1.12    2 years ago
Like assholes, everyone has one

and some even more than one, butt I digress, I know you are not a total Trump lackey, so is it peer pressure, or perhaps air pressure, pressuring you to defend a POS candidate. Yea, your buddies will be upset with you, as mine are and we can never discuss politix me off often, and thus why i come here, to smoke my bud and drink my BEER, but I will always stand by my Principals, irregardles of how many Vices of Principal, cause I refuse to lose when it comes to my opinion, unless, I am truly shown another MORE plausible explanation, and with the former potus, there is just too much damn evidence, and not Trumped up shit, shit I witnessed with my own two eyes, heard with my own two ears, as I watched Trump Brag about half the shit he is accused of doing and facing charges over. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.14  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.11    2 years ago
Why is the GOP seeking to nominate Trump vs Haley or DeSantis?

I don’t know that they are.  GOP primary voters may.  The Party just wants to win and not alienate a large part of its base.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.15  TᵢG  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.14    2 years ago
I don’t know that they are.

The evidence illustrates that they are.   The GOP = the party and its members (and that especially includes the GOP electorate).

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.16  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.5    2 years ago
"The choice is Trump v. Haley or DeSantis."

I'd prefer DeSantis or Haley or a combo of them. If Trump ends up the nominee, he'll get my vote.

It would illogical, idiotic, and unpatriotic to vote for Biden

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.17  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.15    2 years ago

There are many Party leaders that don’t back Trump, few speak out because they want to remain viable.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.18  TᵢG  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.17    2 years ago
There are many Party leaders that don’t back Trump

Of course, that is obvious.   

In spite of the fact that there are always dissenters ...

Why is the GOP seeking to nominate Trump vs Haley or DeSantis?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.19  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.11    2 years ago

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Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.20  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.18    2 years ago

I think that many of his endorsements are because those politicians see Trump’s nomination as an inevitability. He continues to poll high and his two real competitors didn’t offer many compelling reasons to oppose him.  Why back a rival and risk Trump ‘s wrath.

That could change if Haley continues to beat expectations, Biden didn’t get a lot of support until after SC.  If Trumps court cases go to trial before the convention, it might also get interesting.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.21  TᵢG  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.20    2 years ago
I think that many of his endorsements are because those politicians see Trump’s nomination as an inevitability.

I agree.

That could change if Haley continues to beat expectations, Biden didn’t get a lot of support until after SC.  If Trumps court cases go to trial before the convention, it might also get interesting.

The problem, as I have stated many times here on NT, is the GOP electorate.   The slimy, weak politicians of course will do whatever they can to keep their office.   They are focused on themselves and not the good of the USA (there are very few statesmen left).

The support for Trump via polls has driven the politicians.   People who say they will vote for Trump as the nominee or will vote for Trump if he is nominated is what has caused the GOP as a whole to stupidly cling to Trump.

The GOP will NOT deliver a decent candidate because the GOP as a whole is currently such a dysfunctional mess that they will wholeheartedly endorse a traitor who is the only PotUS to attempt to steal a US election through coercion, fraud, lying and incitement.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.22  Sparty On  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.19    2 years ago

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Hal A. Lujah
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1.1.23  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.16    2 years ago

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Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.24  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  bugsy @1.1    2 years ago

I know for sure I want no part of any legacy that Joe Biden leaves behind. Really don't care for Trump either. We need fresh new blood.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.25  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  bugsy @1.1    2 years ago

Equating decent and honorable to Joe Biden makes for one hell of a oxymoron.

 
 
 
Thomas
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2  Thomas    2 years ago

At this point all of the Philadelphia Inquirer's words will fall on m ostly deaf ears. Either the voters who lean towards Trump think that they are being lead astray by the "Left Wing Media" when it talks about bad and undemocratic actions that Trump has and will continue to take or they simply do not care. Both are bad. 

Let's hope that the actions that are brought to mind remind the rest of the public of just why Trump lost by 7 million votes the last time.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Thomas @2    2 years ago
remind the rest of the public

And now the public has over 3 years of Joes policies to think about as they shake their heads every time they leave the grocery store..

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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2.1.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1    2 years ago
as they shake their heads every time they leave the grocery store..

yep, and the man of the people Don the average Joe Trump, will be so concerned about how much a loaf of bread is, as he has a toaster of Gold, so his bread shall never grow mold.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Igknorantzruls @2.1.1    2 years ago

You think people are going to forget when prices went through the roof and who was president?

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.1.3  Thomas  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.2    2 years ago
You think people are going to forget when prices went through the roof and who was president?

What, you are for a command economy now? The President doesn't control the price of bread. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Thomas @2.1.3    2 years ago

Oh, so the president has no control over prices when they are high but if they are coming down from all time highs he can take credit for it touting a failed bidenomics plan.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.4    2 years ago

Your question suggests that you do not understand the distinction between politics and economics.

Politicians lie.   They take credit for whatever they can and avoid blame whenever possible.   Presidents, in particular, get blamed for a bad economy when they have very little (typically) to do with the state of the economy (especially while they are still in office).    And then on the flip side, presidents will pretend that a good economy is all their doing because the naive, ill-informed electorate tends to buy that bullshit.

It is a game of lies and that game continues primarily because the electorate largely does not understand economics.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1.6  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1    2 years ago

as they shake their heads every time they leave the grocery store..

I guess you should shop where I shop, since wherever you’re shopping is taking you for a sucker.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.6    2 years ago

256

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.5    2 years ago

Thank you for your comment

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1.9  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.7    2 years ago

Your chart shows the trend that you are refusing to admit to.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.10  bugsy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.9    2 years ago

You are right because it does not include December's numbers, which shows inflation, once again, rising..

.But this is only temporary s/

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @2.1.10    2 years ago
But this is only temporary s/

Do you think inflation will permanently rise?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1.12  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  bugsy @2.1.10    2 years ago

Then I guess it was an odd choice to post it, huh?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.9    2 years ago

I am? Thanks for letting me know. So when was inflation higher than after joe took office?

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.14  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.11    2 years ago

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Right Down the Center
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2.1.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @2.1.10    2 years ago
.But this is only temporary s/

It will all be over within 8 years (according to AOC) so if the dems can just continue to spin their web of shit til then they can say inflation was transitory.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.17  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.16    2 years ago

I do get a kick out of the blame game and taking credit for the economy when in reality the president doesn't have that much of an impact.  Of course some of his policies do but not overall.  But that doesn't matter when people are voting.  Presidents get revoted in or dumped based on the economy.  That is why Joe and his minions are spending so much time and energy trying to convince people the economy is great and it is all because of Joe.  Obviously non partisans are not buying it.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3  Sparty On    2 years ago

Dog whistle.

That said, as distasteful as it was.    Biden reaffirms my vote for Trump nearly every day and has been for over three years.

Unfortunately, looks like I’ll have the same decision to make this year.    Fortunately many that voted for Biden last time have seen the light.    Even through all the mud and stink being served up 24/7 by my friends on the left.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @3    2 years ago

Lets hit the bottom line. You intend to vote for a traitor. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    2 years ago

Like usual, you missed the bottom line.   By a country mile.

My reasons are already clearly summarized above.  

Your approval is not required.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.2  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    2 years ago
You intend to vote for a traitor. 

I don't think he is going to vote for Biden, but if that's what you want to believe......

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @3.1.2    2 years ago

Tell us everything you know about Trump's behavior around and during Jan 6th. We'll see what you know.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    2 years ago
You intend to vote for a traitor. 

He never said he was going to vote for traitor Joe.

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bugsy
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3.1.5  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    2 years ago

John, why should I?. No matter what I say, you will insult me, delete my post as trolling or go on your usual tired rant that Trump is not fit for office and that he is a traitor (with yet still no evidence, by the way).

Not worth the evidence to educate you on something you refuse to wake up to.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @3.1.5    2 years ago

I say you know nothing about it. Here is your chance to prove me wrong. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @3.1.5    2 years ago
... with yet still no evidence, by the way ...

You seriously write this?   That there is no evidence that Trump is a traitor who violated his oath of office by attempting to circumvent the CotUS through fraud, lying, coercion, and incitement?   That he attempted to violate the foundation of democracy — the vote of the electorate?   And you still defend him by deflecting to Biden and claiming there is no evidence of his wrongdoing.

No PotUS in our history has come even remotely close to what Trump did in his Big Lie campaign.   

How can you or anyone deny this?

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.8  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.7    2 years ago

Thank you for your opinion.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.6    2 years ago

See 3.1.5

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @3.1.8    2 years ago

A complete failure to deal with a direct challenge of your position.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.11  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.10    2 years ago

Your opinion. And again, thank you for it.

Like assholes, everybody has one.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.1.12  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @3.1.5    2 years ago
Trump is not fit for office and that he is a traitor (with yet still no evidence, by the way). Not worth the evidence to educate you on something you refuse to wake up to.

Still NO EVIDENCE ???  So you admit to knowing NOT of that which transpired on the sixth ...?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1.13  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.6    2 years ago
"Here is your chance to prove me wrong." 

You're proven wrong all the time, it's on display here every day.

But no one is going to waste their time trying to prove it to you.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1.15  Greg Jones  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1.12    2 years ago
So you admit to knowing NOT of that which transpired on the sixth ...?

What did Trump have to do with "what transpired on the 6th"?

He wasn't even there and could not communicate with the mostly peaceful protesters.

 
 
 
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Igknorantzruls
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3.1.17  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.15    2 years ago

Are you not aware that TRUMP invited them there " it will be wild" or such ? He would have been there but his Secret Service detail refused to take him there even though Trump attempted to direct them there to the Capital. Where was this rioting Trump Enthusiastic group of insurrectionists directly before heading to the Capital ??? They were getting all fired up by the INSURECTIONIST IN CHIEF , TRUMP 

"mostly peaceful protestors" PROOF you watched Not, the January 6th hearings ! 

Were you afraid ?   Afraid you might learn the TRUTH ?

Watch the hearings and then tell US All they were mostly peaceful protesters, I dare Ya 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.19  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.15    2 years ago
What did Trump have to do with "what transpired on the 6th"? He wasn't even there and could not communicate with the mostly peaceful protesters.

This is the delusional thinking that has enabled Trump's viability.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1.17    2 years ago

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Right Down the Center
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4  Right Down the Center    2 years ago

"America   barely survived  one Trump term."

America survived just fine.  The above statement alone makes the rest of the article not worth reading. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1  Sparty On  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    2 years ago

Biden is the first president elected by a virus.    

One might think I’m talking about [(the term TDS is not allowed)] but I am not.    I’m talking about COVID-19.     That doesn’t happen and Trump wins 2020 by a landslide.    Doesn’t sound like a country that barely survived his presidency.

Saying so is nothing more than “resist” propaganda.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Sparty On @4.1    2 years ago
the term TDS is not allowed

Effectively censoring a very real issue in this world.    
Goebbels would be proud.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.1    2 years ago
a very real issue in this world.  

LOL. 

People intending to vote for a traitor is a much bigger issue, and negates the so called "TDS". 

Donald Trump tried to overthrow the 2020 election and sat mute while the national legislature was under a riot intended to stop the electoral vote count. Those statements are not speculation, they are facts. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    2 years ago

If Trump gets convicted of being a traitor, you might have a point, but in spite of the chosen ones best efforts …. No traitor banana for the resist whiners.

The rest is just propaganda/gaslighting by my triggered friends on the left.    Can I still use “triggered” or is that on the censors list as well?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.3    2 years ago

Tell us everything you know about Trump's behavior around and during Jan 6th. We'll see what you know.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    2 years ago

No need since it’s a fools errand.    That said, I’m very well versed on your interpretation of what happened on Jan 6th.    Since it’s been bloviated here endlessly for the last couple years.

To which I say, opinions do vary.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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4.1.7  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.3    2 years ago
he rest is just propaganda/gaslighting by my triggered friends on the left.

For real Sparty, did you pay any attention to the 1/6 hearings? , or did you hide from it because you were instructed to. Because Cheney was a true conservative Republican and she sacrificed her political career because of her duty to put her Country, above her politics and she was  cochair. That shit was as real as it gets, and anyone who didn't watch or follow it, owes it to themselves and our once great Country, to take a look at what actually happened for real, cause it is amazing how people's recollection of things changes, when they could go to jail for LYING about it. To hide ones head in the sand is not an option. People need to man and woman up to gain the full context about what really happened on that fcked up day, January 6th 2021.

 
 
 
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4.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  Igknorantzruls @4.1.7    2 years ago

For realz iggy, for realz …. For shizzle my nizzle …..

 
 
 
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4.1.9  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.8    2 years ago

you fizzel, cause when one does not gain the vantage point of a more engrossed and well rounded view of actual Un revokable facts , one will never be enlightened, thus , fizzle out like a damp moist fuse, not a pro, just a con

 
 
 
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4.1.10  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.5    2 years ago
To which I say, opinions do vary.

To which I say, some assholes marry,

but I took you as and for one who didn't just follow the pseudo leader, 

more so a fighter, not a conceder...  

 
 
 
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4.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  Igknorantzruls @4.1.10    2 years ago
To which I say, some assholes marry,

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4.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.12    2 years ago

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4.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sparty On @4.1    2 years ago
Biden is the first president elected by a virus.  

He is also the first president elected by campaigning from his basement.  If he got out and campaigned in front of people they would have seen him as the doddering old dementia ridden fool he is

 
 
 
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4.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    2 years ago
he above statement alone makes the rest of the article not worth reading. 

as does your false moniker after one reads your schtick. How can supposed intelligent individuals be son damn narrow minded about the blatant shit they witnessed with their own faculty's. ?

 
 
 
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4.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Igknorantzruls @4.2    2 years ago

You must mean the "sky is falling group".  I know, what a bunch of Debbie Downers.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

800

 
 
 
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6  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Conversation in 2024

Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Conversation in 2024 (msn.com)
W e periodically point out that Donald Trump is seriously mentally ill. From being a pathological liar to a textbook example of malignant narcissism, the former president displays a cluster of disorders that, in other circumstances, might not get him institutionalized, but would definitely justify some form of treatment. 

So why aren’t we talking about that?

The GOP seems intent on making President Joe Biden’s age an issue in the upcoming election (although Trump is only four years younger), and that is perfectly appropriate in light of the fact that the incumbent would be 86 at the end of a second term.

It is important that experts — rather than Fox News pundits, who interpret every one of Biden’s verbal slips as a sign of advanced dementia — weigh in on this topic. After all, being president is a stressful and highly demanding job, so is it possible for an octogenarian to do it well? That is a valid question, and it seems as though voters deserve an answer. 

But they should also know whether one of the candidates is very likely completely nuts. 

Yet, while Biden’s age is fair game, not just in the right-wing mediaverse but also among mainstream news outlets, Trump’s mental health, or lack thereof, is largely a taboo topic, even though it is a much bigger problem. 

Most reporters don’t have a problem with mentioning Biden’s age (and it bears repeating that it’s a perfectly legitimate concern as long as their conclusions are supported by facts). Yet the same journalists fail to spell it out for their audiences when Trump does or says something that is completely insane apart from labeling some of his most outrageous speeches “rants” or saying the former president is “unhinged.” But those are buzzwords and not a serious attempt to spell out that Trump is, to put it in layman’s terms, crazy.

A big part of the reason why the former president’s mental health is not more of a topic of conversation is the so-called  Goldwater Rule  of the American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics. It states that “it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion [about someone’s mental health] unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.”

That might seem fair in most circumstances, but it is arguably even less ethical to allow a seriously mentally ill person to become president — in particular if that mental illness could negatively impact their performance, which it arguably did during Trump’s first term.

After all, there are exceptions to the attorney-client privilege; e.g., a lawyer is allowed to divulge relevant information if doing so prevents death or serious injury.

Another part of the problem is that, as a society, we do not talk much about mental health, and these disorders are not as easy to diagnose as physical ailments. 

If an X-ray reveals a fracture, the bone is broken; a biopsy showing malignant cells is clear evidence of cancer. In these cases, no doctors are going to disagree with another doctor’s diagnosis. 

It’s somewhat different with mental illness, especially in mild or mainly benign cases which might be open to some interpretation or differences of opinion. 

For example, it takes a special kind of person — specifically, someone with a very high opinion of him or herself — to decide that he or she wants to be president of the United States. Therefore, every commander in chief probably has a narcissistic streak. 

However, there is nothing mild or benign about Trump’s narcissism. 

Trump, a Textbook Case. Look Him Up!

The Mayo Clinic website  lists 13 symptoms   for narcissistic personality disorder plus another eight that describe how narcissists react to criticism. 

Keep in mind that displaying any number of these can make you a narcissist, but we challenge anybody to look at this list of 21 symptoms and find even a handful that  don’t  apply to Trump. 

It’s an impossible task for any fair-minded person. 

That’s precisely the reason why the former president’s mental health must be part of the national conversation. Voters need to know what someone suffering from this disorder (and others) is capable of in a position of power, just as they need to know whether an 82-year-old (or a 78-year-old, for that matter), can handle the rigors of the presidency for four years. 

And it’s not just his malignant narcissism and compulsive lying. Look up the APA’s symptoms for  “ sociopathy ,” and it is difficult not to think of Trump.

But who is actually looking up the definitions of “malignant narcissism” or “sociopathy?” Clearly not enough people. 

And this is where it would help if mental health professionals spoke out. They could point out that Trump is a poster child for several serious disorders. And then, responsible journalists could cite these opinions when they write about the former president’s latest rant or spate of lies. 

In fact, most stories about him should include that information, e.g.,

“Former President Donald Trump, who experts say is mentally ill,…”

‘“As per usual, Trump, a diagnosed compulsive liar, did not stick to the truth in his remarks…”

“As a result of his malignant narcissism and sociopathy, Trump did tremendous damage during his first term, and experts say he has only gotten worse since then.” 

Granted, it would have been better to have had these conversations eight years ago. Take his narcissism, for example. People like Trump need adulation and attention like ordinary people need oxygen. 

Now, you probably could not have headed off the adulation from his most fervent supporters, but you could have deprived the former president of much of the attention he craves so much.

Instead, media executives with an eye on the bottom line showered him with billions of dollars of free airtime, which constituted one of the worst cases of journalistic malpractice in history.

Now, we can’t do anything about what happened eight years ago, but it is high time for experts to weigh in on Trump’s mental state and how it would jeopardize the United States should he be elected again.
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bugsy
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6.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @6    2 years ago
 
Nice to see a far left OPINION writer is now writing as if he is a licensed psychologist.
Nothing but triggered left wing nonsense.
 
 
 
 
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6.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @6.1    2 years ago

Trump either is a deranged lunatic or plays one on television and in the media. 

In truth he IS mentally ill, he has malignant narcissism, which is a mental illness. 

 
 
 
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6.1.2  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.1    2 years ago

You have diagnosing credentials or are you just spouting?

 
 
 
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6.1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @6.1.2    2 years ago

Based on reading a magazine in the doctors office my professional diagnosis is Biden has stage 6 dementia and severe alzheimers.  He is not fit to be president.

 
 
 
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6.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.1.3    2 years ago

What is your diagnosis for Trump?

 
 
 
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6.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.1.3    2 years ago
...journalists fail to spell it out for their audiences when Trump does or says something that is completely insane apart from labeling some of his most outrageous speeches “rants” or saying the former president is “unhinged.” But those are buzzwords and not a serious attempt to spell out that Trump is, to put it in layman’s terms, crazy.

 
 
 
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6.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.1.3    2 years ago

How can anyone say that Biden is senile , and then not say that Trump is crazy? Trump is clearly more insane than Biden is senile. Plus he's a traitor. 

 
 
 
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6.1.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.4    2 years ago

I didn't see a magazine to help me with this so my unprofessional diagnosis is narcissistic asshole.

 
 
 
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6.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.5    2 years ago

Is crazy a politically correct term?

 
 
 
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6.1.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.6    2 years ago
How can anyone say that Biden is senile , and then not say that Trump is crazy? Trump is clearly more insane than Biden is senile.

It is easy.  They are both opinions.  

 
 
 
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6.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.5    2 years ago
to put it in layman’s terms, crazy.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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7  Hal A. Lujah    2 years ago

The Trump campaign/cult is spewing so much venom and dictatorial impulses that it will be no surprise if Republican election officials overwhelmingly and blatantly break election rules and protocols en masse to steal the next election.  That’s what cults do.

 
 
 
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8  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

For the left the real danger is one of Trump's GOP opponents.

Trump only gets mad. We need the guy who gets even.

 
 

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