Will the Trump Presidency Follow The Orban Hungary Playbook ?
Trump invokes one "dictator" more than any other , and always with effusive praise and no criticism. That authoritarian is Victor Orban of Hungary. Orban has visited Trump's home in Florida.
“There’s nobody that’s better, smarter or a better leader than Viktor Orbán. He’s fantastic,” the former president told a crowd gathered for a concert at the Florida resort, as shown in a series of videos posted to Orbán’s Instagram account.
Trump added that the European autocrat is “a noncontroversial figure because he said, ‘This is the way it’s going to be,’ and that’s the end of it, right? He’s the boss and … he’s a great leader, fantastic leader. In Europe and around the world, they respect him.”
Trump praises ‘fantastic’ Viktor Orbán while hosting Hungarian autocrat at Mar-a-Lago for meeting and concert | CNN Politics
Trump is on the record as an admirer of what Orban has done in Hungary. Keep that in mind as you read the rest of this .
How Orban’s decade in power changed Hungary
.....In 2006, with this in mind, people close to Orban started to found their own institutions. These included the now government-funded Nezopont Institute, which conducts polling and policy research – one recent study was of prominent intellectuals and journalists deemed to be receiving funds from Soros. After Orban’s return to power, a government-funded think-tank called the Center for Fundamental Rights was created in 2013. According to its website: “The Center considers preserving national identity, sovereignty and Christian social traditions as its mission”.
In an agenda-setting speech in July 2018, the premier went further, laying out his ambition for “a cultural era” that would transcend politics. “An era is a spiritual order, a kind of prevailing mood, perhaps even taste – a form of attitude. A political system is usually determined by rules and political decisions. An era, however, is… determined by cultural trends, collective beliefs and social customs.” Before his return to power, Orban told a group of supporters: “We only have to win once, but then properly.”
So in his second and third terms, he rewrote the constitution and election laws and instituted his unorthodox brand of “Orbanomics”, featuring the lowest corporate taxes and the highest VAT rates in Europe. The same month that Orban set out his plan for a “cultural era”, Hungary’s kindergarten curriculum was amended to promote a “national identity, Christian cultural values, patriotism, attachment to homeland and family”. Shortly thereafter, the government withdrew financing and support for university gender studies programmes, and announced an effective takeover of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences, the country’s premier research institution.
They want to take over all aspects of Hungarian life, and I think they have gone pretty far Andras Biro-Nagy, director of Budapest think-tank Policy Solutions Creating enemies and vilifying opponents is part of the strategy. “The biggest lesson in this decade regarding everyday life is that life can change from one moment to another, which is not typical in a stable democracy where rule of law prevails,” says Peter Kreko, the director of Political Capital, a Budapest-based think-tank. “You can lose your job [due to political reasons]. Universities can be pushed out from one moment to another. Orban’s policy and politics is not conservative. This is about a permanent illiberal revolution.”
Some of that probably wont apply to Trump's plans, but it quite likely much of it does.
“The Center considers preserving national identity, sovereignty and Christian social traditions as its mission”.
“We only have to win once, but then properly.”
Hungary’s kindergarten curriculum was amended to promote a “national identity, Christian cultural values, patriotism, attachment to homeland and family”.
Shortly thereafter, the government withdrew financing and support for university gender studies programmes, and announced an effective takeover of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences, the country’s premier research institution.
They want to take over all aspects of Hungarian life, .... Creating enemies and vilifying opponents is part of the strategy.
“You can lose your job [due to political reasons]. Universities can be pushed out from one moment to another. Orban’s policy and politics is not conservative. This is about a permanent illiberal revolution.”
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None of this will seem out of place in the second Trump term. In truth, Trump and his inner circle promise much of it.
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Trump is going to attempt to mandate that schools teach the "traditional" version of American history, where no Founding Fathers were in favor of slavery, everyone of note and importance were vocal Christians, and anything of worth in the country was accomplished by white Europeans.
No he’s not
They just say anything.
Just more "he's going to" bullshit that won't come to fruition
It’d be nice to have a timeline. Is he going to do that before or after he ends democracy? Before or after he puts people in internment camps? Before or after he orders the ovens to be built? Before or after he starts ww3? Before or after all the other crazy bullshit the left says he will do?
If you read the chapter on slavery in Trumps commissioned history book, The 1776 Commission, you will see an argument that everything America or its most famous citizens said or did on the subject of slavery was the best that anyone could have done, state of the art so to speak. That is just not true. Jefferson died in 1826 without ever having freed a single one of the hundreds of slaves he owned. He was against slavery for other people, perhaps, but not for himself. This sort of thing is well known to actual historians but in Trump history books it will be off limits.
progressives obsession with tearing down anyone who accomplishes something positive for the world doesn’t appeal to everyone:
It’s not a history book, but rather a 45 page report.
Reminded me of parts of the 1619 Project, but from the opposite perspective. Both were more a political agenda than history.
I think I probably know as much about Jefferson as the average fairly literate American, and in some ways I would say he was a great man. He was also quite racist. The traditional explanation for this is that he was a man of his times. That is also true, but there is nothing "great" about it. Over the 50 years between the Declaration of Independence and his death he did or said next to nothing to try and end slavery. Why would he? He was making much needed money off his slaves. Jefferson lived a lavish lifestyle while a half mile or mile away his workers had virtually no freedom of movement. There is nothing great about that.
Technically its not a book but it does have chapters devoted to period and topics in America history, just like a book would have.
Trump would ban the 1619 project from American schools.
I don’t think that he has that authority.
Good. As it should be. It is all bullshit written by a racist
I have many history books but none with only 45 pages.
Musk isnt scorned for his technical achievements, he is scorned because he is a humongous asshole with authoritarian tendencies. America doesnt need that sort of "great man". Whatever he invented or accomplished would also be done by someone less odious.
let it go.
The complexities, contradictions, rationalizations and other flaws coupled with acts of brilliance make the determination of “greatness” a challenging, balancing analysis.
Of course, maybe the notions of hero’s is outdated and we should view all of us as flawed, conflicted individuals.
Musk isn't even an American
I guess you need to define American, are all naturalized US citizens not American? what about Illegals from Mexico? are they Americans?
Of course they aren't. But I've some here say that legal immigrants aren't Americans even when they become naturalized.
Jefferson is the perfect example. Of course he wasn't perfect. He's a man, not a god. He was one of America's first great political knife fighters who liked to cultivate the image of the philospeher above politics But, in the balance, he did as much as anyone to change the worldview of humanity since its very existence that slavery was the natural way of things. Jefferson not only laid the intellectual groundwork for making slavery illegal, but a moral taboo that is unthinkable across much of the world's cultures. To call what he helped achieve a revolution isn't doing it justice. You would not have you consider your own belief system without Jefferson.
But when the left talks about Jefferson, it's just "he was a racist. He retained some of the mores of the culture he grew up in and exercised his legal rights to his benefit. He's a monster."
To most on the left, they are more American than born or came here legally and naturalized citizens.
This is where the shit starts - not my president, pink pussy hats and guilty of everything you could imagine. Just start the impeachment now.
Give it a few weeks after the inauguration.
Yep, traitors are not my president.
Are you an American?
uh yeah. are you?
Almost makes me rethinnk my desire for a split government if the dems plan on focusing on another impeachment and not the needs of the country
I am.
Difference between you and I and millions of Americans is that we accept whoever the president is, no matter if we like it or not.
I accepted Biden and Obama even though I did not like, but because they were elected by the American people, they are to be respected as such.
And before you start ranting about an insurrection and Trump being a traitor, something that more than one of us has shown you he has never been convicted of such crime, therefore he is not, nor did he commit treason, then he should be respected as the duly elected president, and the president for all Americans.
I am sure someone on the D side is already cooking up some cockamamy reason for filing impeachment charges.
If they do, then I think the R controlled House should hear 5 minutes of testimony then pass it to the Senate, who should immediately dismiss the charges.
It is in the news this morning that one of the first things Trump will do is remake the Department of Justice according to his personal liking. Fire the FBI Director, who he appointed the first time around , and fire prosecutors unwilling to play ball with him. Orban remade the Hungarian judiciary in a way that served to protect his and his cronies personal corruption. Trump will likely do the same.
Fire the FBI Director, who he appointed the first time around , and fire prosecutors unwilling to play ball with him
Biden fired every DA in the country but two, one of whom was protecting his son from prosecution.
Hasn't just about every President since the beginning of time appointed his own US Attorneys? and then they pick their own Staff? but now it's a conspiracy if trumps does it? this blue-anon shit is going to get funny.
Trump has clearly stated that he admires Viktor Orban and Orban's version of Hungary.
Trump doesnt give an actual shit about the people of Hungary. Why would he admire Orban if he wasnt inclined to try and follow in Orban's footsteps?
Orban's suits, car, or haircuts? Maybe his way with the ladies? Nah.
Got a link to back that up? Would be helpful.
Sounds like the residentt libs still don't get it. It's ;likely they never will.
This election amounted to a MAGA MANDATE
It sounds like the resident reactionaries are excited about an authoritarian United States government.
HAIL TRUMP!