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One Progressive vs. 20 Far Right Conservatives

  
By:  John Russell  •  last year  •  28 comments


One Progressive vs. 20 Far Right Conservatives
 

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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1  author  JohnRussell    last year

Mehdi Hassan is often a pain in the ass to watch. He interrupts people and is capable of talking a mile a minute.

He also wrote a book titled "How To Win An Argument", so lets just say he knows how to do this sort of thing. 

In the video he one by one debates a group of mostly young far right opponents, regular people except for their extreme views. 

Many of the conservatives are actually extremists, who dont believe in the Constitution, dont accept the concept of immigration, and in a couple cases described themselves as "Catholic nationalists". Which offended me because I am a catholic, and dont like the idea of catholic nationalism.  One guy praised Nazism .  Almost all of those that talked had one degree or another of white supremacist ideology.  Lets hope these people are a distinct minority. 

In any case , if you have the inclination, enjoy. 

I would recommend for people without much time that you start the video at 22:00 and watch it for about 10 minutes. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
Masters Silent
1.1  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

“In the video he one by one debates a group of mostly young far right opponents, regular people except for their extreme views.”

Sounds like he copied charlie kirk’s and ben shapiro’s playbook.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
1.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Gazoo @1.1    last year

Yep

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2  Sean Treacy    last year

Ten years ago Mehdi Hasan argued that he was Indigenous to Britain because he was born in London. He expressed genuine outrage at the idea that he was not indigenous. Now he reacts with mocking contempt towards the idea that white Americans can be Indigenous to America. Why?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year

If the 15 or so young "conservatives" he debated in this video are representative of the next generation of right wingers this country is in a world of hurt. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3  Sparty On    last year

People that can, do.     People who can’t,  can only talk about doing.

This guy is nothing without the doers of the world.

Nothing.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
3.1  CB  replied to  Sparty On @3    last year

Not pithy enough, because Mehdi Hassan is sitting down in an 'arena-styled' setting with the political opposition. . . and he is holding his own at 23:18 minutes into this event. . . and all you came to do is criticize him and not the depths of the discussion. Sparty On, in my opinion, that comment is not pithy enough. Talk about the issues discussed and not one out of 21 "messengers" and their "complexions." 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  CB @3.1    last year

Yes, opinions do vary.     Greatly in this case.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
3.1.2  CB  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.1    last year

Well, it would do us all a great 'service' if we talk about the video: One progressive versus 20 far-right conservatives. Let's go!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  CB @3.1.2    last year

One radical progressive against 20 radical conservatives?

Neither represent the mainstream of this country.

A debate I would like to see.   This guy and Ben Shapiro.

Now that might be interesting.

 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
3.1.4  CB  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.3    last year

Well, you got this. Use it as what it is meant to be a discussion where you do not get to choose the participants-how often do you get to pick debaters anyway? No one is required to pick (and let you choose) those who 'sign up.' With that said, it would be a fair question to ask if you even listened to these "lesser" MAGA supporters or even care about their ability to represent MAGA and conservatism.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  CB @3.1.4    last year

As noted earlier.    That 20 isn’t even close to representative.     Not even close but if it helps for you to think so, knock yourself out.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
3.1.6  CB  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.5    last year

As usual, a MAGA fount of shallowness is dug and 'watered' repeatedly. Meh. Yet another 'occasion' of find me where I am not from a MAGA supporter.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  CB @3.1.6    last year

May the force be with you CB.    Rock on!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
3.1.8  CB  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.7    last year

Of course. You too!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @3    last year

What are you talking about? , he is a doer. He owns an internet media company. 

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
3.2.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    last year

And to think, only 10,960,000 more subscribers and he will catch PewDiePie. but i will give him credit, he found 40,000 suckers willing to part with 8 dollars a month.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
3.2.2  CB  replied to  George @3.2.1    last year

That comment is a personal judgement/opining. The issue spoken about is doer vs. talker. Hassan demonstrates he is a doer when he convenes a forum (round circle) gathering of opposition viewpoints against one progressive: Himself.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3.2.3  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    last year

Yes, he is ready made to help radical progressives scratch that itch.

That’s about it.

I smell Soros all over this one.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.4  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @3.2.3    last year

I doubt if you know enough about the whole subject to have a viable opinion. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3.2.5  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.4    last year

And once again you make the mistake of underestimating your opponent.    That’s okay.    I spent a career of beating folks who were overly impressed with themselves.

SOSDD

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.6  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @3.2.5    last year

I just go by what you say on this forum, which doesnt amount to much. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3.2.7  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.6    last year

Well John, something we have in common.    I feel exactly the same towards your “contributions” to this place.     One things for sure though.    My fan club here will continue to vote up your comments like that.

Pretty sweet eh?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
3.2.8  CB  replied to  Sparty On @3.2.3    last year

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CB
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4  CB    last year

Up to 23.18 (where I am now) two things come across to me: 1. Hassan is "well-studied" on his topics.  2. I may continue to learn something about the conservative mind(set) through this video as I have already from the first "plus" minutes of it.

(It is honestly sad to me that I have had to wait this long to feel that I am getting some depth to conservative-think today on a video debate, that I could not get from 10 years thereabouts "discussing" online with conservatives/MAGA supporters.)

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5  author  JohnRussell    last year

This video now has over 51,000 comments on You Tube. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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6  Gsquared    last year

They admit they are Fascists, oppose democracy and want an authoritarian government.  They are anti-American subversives/enemies and should be immediately removed to Guantanamo.

 
 
 
CB
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7  CB    last year

I found that presentation to be of value and worthy of sitting down to listen. Very well done and informative. We, "Americans" are surely have a diverse set or sets of viewpoints and worldviews.

 
 

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