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Donald Trump Only Likes Winning Numbers

  
Via:  John Russell  •  last year  •  20 comments

By:   WhoWhatWhy

Donald Trump Only Likes Winning Numbers
Numbers that make President Trump look like a loser drive him insane.

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Friday, President Donald Trump fired Erika McEntarfer, the Bureau of Labor Statistics commissioner, because he was bummed by the low job creation numbers in the July jobs report. This move is a sign that Trump, the authoritarian, will corrupt government reporting numbers to avoid embarrassment and make him feel like a success.

Government statistics are relied upon by academia, industry, and governments around the world. The reputation of America is diminished if people can't trust the data that the US government provides.

Trump has been inflicting his insecurity about the size of things since Sean Spicer falsely claimed, in his first official press conference, that Trump's inauguration had drawn the "largest audience to ever to witness an inauguration, period — both in person and around the globe."

When COVID-19 first hit, Trump didn't want to allow a cruise ship with COVID-stricken passengers to dock because "I like the numbers being where they are" — this was when total US COVID-19 fatalities stood at 19 .

Throughout his time in politics, Trump has been obsessed with his numbers being the largest (or occasionally, as in the illustration above, the smallest) and the best. He monitors media ratings, wealth sizes, hand sizes, crowd sizes, political polls, flag poles, election results, and more. Meanwhile Americans suffer whatever reality the president is trying to obscure.

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

Although its fun to make light of, this is a very serious and ominous development.  Trump has signaled to the world that he is not interested in reality, and is willing to distort important government statistics for his own megalomanic purposes.  There is no bottom to such behavior. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

Most People Aren’t Buyin’ It

posted at 07:24:17 UTC by   digby   via   Digby's Hullabaloo

In fact they’re not buying much of anything

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Trump can fake the numbers and fire the messengers all he wants but t hat won’t change this:

  • American families are struggling financially, and 6 in 10 place blame on Donald Trump for driving up their cost of living.  Across a range of different questions, respondents report difficulty making ends meet and keeping up with bills, and were concerned with falling further behind. More than half believe that billionaires, corporations, and congressional Republicans have made their lives harder. Notably, 6 in 10 believe that after just six months on the job, the Trump administration has negatively impacted their cost of living.
  • To manage the high cost of living, Americans are turning to debt and other risky financial products and practices.  While the federal government tears down programs such as Medicaid and food assistance and federal regulators give the green light to companies to rip off consumers, families are being forced to construct their own safety nets from a web of risky financial practices. In the past year, more than 40 percent of Americans have dipped into savings, 37 percent have turned to credit cards, and many report borrowing from friends and family and taking on debt just to pay the bills…
  • Americans think corporate interests, not government red tape, are the biggest obstacle to making change—and they think it should be a top priority of the government to hold companies accountable for unfairly hiking prices, driving up the cost of living, and taking advantage of people.  While some policymakers and experts have emphasized bureaucracy and red tape as a primary barrier to big public projects that lower costs for average people, more than half of Americans believe that the influence of corporations and billionaires is the biggest obstacle, not red tape. Americans also see it as a top priority to not just lower costs, but to hold accountable those companies and individuals who unfairly drove costs up in the first place.

Please,   please,   no one tell me that I have to respect the 40% of people who see Trump bragging about the numbers when they’re good and then whining like a five year old that they’ve been rigged when they’re bad and can’t see through him. It’s impossible to make any excuses for people who support that kind of fatuous nonsense. They know what he’s doing and they either don’t care or they like it. Either way, those people are lost.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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2.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year
They know what he’s doing and they either don’t care or they like it.

Like when Trump took credit for the great economic numbers in 2024, while Biden was in office, and then blamed Biden for the bad numbers in 2025, while he was in office. They have no shame, sorta like Trump, an that's a dangerous pair, for balless sychophants..

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    last year

original

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  Vic Eldred    last year

Apparently, the seeder would like everyone to forget that the low job creation numbers in the July jobs report were the result of the largest revision of such numbers in the past 50 years. The revision was not even adequately explained. Prior to the covid epidemic such revisions were rare. Since then, they have become common, which leads us to question how reliable the numbers are.

The President reacted emotionally. He made matters worse.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
4.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year
The President reacted emotionally. He made matters worse.

He ALWAYS DOES!

The numbers will now become totally unreliable, hurting US, and the worlds economies, as actual numbers, good or bad, are needed for companies to operate profitably. Trump is an unhinged tantrum throwing retaliatory showing of a spoiled bitch, and maga is now seeing the Epstein snitch, as he grabbed them by the snatch, cause he needs to scratch his itch, and now they're his fertile patch, and they his bitch, to about insult and talk, cause he can't walk anything but a perp, as he LIES and his supporters continue buys, DERP....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year

No honest person can believe a word Trump says without independent verification. 

America has been laid low. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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4.2.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2    last year
No honest person can believe a word Trump says

even dishonest persons have difficulty

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.3  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year
The revision was not even adequately explained.

I think to be persuaded to this point of view, you should make some effort to explain what an "adequate" explanation should look like. Because we do know why these reports get revised - new information. The reports can only reflect the data received from businesses. It is common for more complete data to trickle in months after the initial report is released. Sometimes, the revision reflects an improved assessment, and sometimes, it's worse than we thought. There's nothing mysterious about it.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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4.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year
The President reacted emotionally. He made matters worse.

His position does not allow him that luxury.

But his supporters do.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
4.5  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year
The President reacted emotionally.

Trump acted in the same way every authoritarian ruler does.  

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
5  freepress    last year

There is a team of 40 or more data analysts who work to compile the hard data and then turn it over for review to the head of the department who reviews and then reports the truthful numbers. 

The head of the Bureau shouldn't be fired for reporting all the true  data compiled from a variety of solid reliable sources.

Trump is a big whiny baby and since he is a habitual liar he could've just blown some smoke about a brief downturn, tariffs, tariffs, tariffs, yadda, yadda. 

No matter what Trump says however untrue the MAGA base buys it anyway.

I guess the old saying "numbers don't lie" should be retired forever since the orange king says he only wants numbers to glorify him.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1  GregTx  replied to  freepress @5    last year
The head of the Bureau shouldn't be fired for reporting all the true data compiled from a variety of solid reliable sources.

If they're solid reliable sources, why are their reports so far off the mark?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
5.1.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  GregTx @5.1    last year

These are the same bean counters that the Dems use as well, and somehow, when the numbers for Biden weren't so swell, I don't recall him crying fowl, so take a gander at the gaggle of goobers supportin this pitiful Uber pathetic president, with more vices than nices, more bullshit than the history of cows have ever had to deal with, as the cattle skiddadle up the creek without a motor boat, cause Trump is your/the goat, no one even remote, ly close to this POS potUS who is so pathetically low it is just really beginning to economically show, as we will get much worse before better, 47 seems behind the ears, even wetter, as Epstein envy be drippin out of one who thinks he reigns, as he creates the poor it on thick, unlike his little tinkie winkie spick-ette, cause worse, we could not, get...

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Participates
5.1.2  GregTx  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.1.1    last year
when the numbers for Biden weren't so swell, I don't recall him crying fowl, 

Mmmmm, that kinda makes the rest of you're "poetic" rant irrelevant, doesn't it?

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  GregTx @5.1    last year
If they're solid reliable sources, why are their reports so far off the mark?

Usually because the report is due at a certain time and the data is incomplete. The government relies on the business world reporting these numbers. If the data don’t come in by a certain time, the report is still required to be published. Then later, more data trickles in and the report is revised. This happens constantly.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
5.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.3    last year

Yup.  I only report the number of employees on my payroll once per quarter, due at the end of the month following the end of a quarter (so, for example, by July 31st for the second quarter).

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
6  Gsquared    last year

Remember?

Trump on Covid numbers: “If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any.”

Trump on allowing passengers with Covid to exit the Grand Princess cruise ship in San Francisco:  He would " rather have them stay on... I would rather because I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double..."

MAGA mentality loves all that, of course.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

Trump’s Firing of Labor Statistician Isn’t Just Petty—It’s a Despotic Red Flag

This kind of behavior is not without precedent—it just usually happens in autocracies.

In Zimbabwe, under   Robert Mugabe,   economists were   punished   or   disappeared   when they reported inconvenient inflation data. In Venezuela,   Nicolás Maduro   jailed   statisticians who   resisted   massaging economic figures. And in Turkey, President   Recep Tayyip Erdoğan   has repeatedly   fired   heads of the national statistics agency when inflation reports didn’t align with official talking points. Each case led to the same outcome: a loss of institutional trust, a collapse in credibility, and economic chaos.

Trump, in this sense, is employing a subtler version of the same despotic script.

The firing of McEntarfer isn’t just about one jobs report. It’s about sending a broader message: facts are malleable, and the only   truth   that matters is what serves the president’s interests. Or, in other words, the truth is now defined by what makes Trump wants or makes him look good. But what makes Trump’s move even more insidious is that it dovetails with his long-running strategy of deliberately undermining public faith in institutions.

This isn’t some minor bureaucratic reshuffle—it’s a flashing red warning light for anyone who cares about functional governance. Once a president can fire a nonpartisan data official without evidence, simply for producing numbers that don’t serve his narrative, the door is wide open to a system where only propaganda survives.

This is how truth gets replaced by loyalty, how competence gets pushed out by obedience, and how democratic governments quietly rot from within. If Americans don’t push back now—regardless of political affiliation—this won’t be the last time objective reality is sacrificed for personal power. It will be the new normal.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8  Trout Giggles    last year

I heard on the news this morning that trmp "says" he will hire someone for commissioner. The next commissioner will be someone who flunked 7th grade algebra.

 
 

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