Pentagon readies plans to deploy troops in Chicago following Trump DC takeover: report
By: Alex Galbraith (Salon. com)
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
President Trump has repeatedly threatened U.S. cities with federal action
The Pentagon has been planning a potential military deployment in Chicago for the past several weeks.
According to officials who spoke with the Washington Post, troops could be deployed to the third-largest U.S. city as early as September. The report noted that Trump administration officials were weighing a mission like the one carried out in Los Angeles in response to days of protests against Immigration and Customs Enforcement actions. That action sent 4,000 members of the California National Guard and several hundred Marines to the city.
The insiders shared that the idea of sending several thousand active-duty members of the military to the Windy City had been broached, but seemed unlikely. The Department of Defense declined to comment when reached by the Post.
Trump has repeatedly touted the idea of sending federal troops into Democrat-controlled cities, alleging that local leaders aren't doing enough to curtail crime. The president recently took control of Washington, D.C.'s police force and deployed the National Guard in the capital. Speaking to reporters on Friday, he praised the ongoing efforts in D.C. and turned his eyes toward Chicago.
"Chicago's a mess," Trump said. "And we'll straighten that one out probably next. That'll be our next one after this. And it won't even be tough."
Black mayors challenge Trump's lawless narrative
Responding to the comments in a post to X, Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker said that he's made "no requests for federal intervention.
"The safety of the people of Illinois is always my top priority. There is no emergency that warrants the President of the United States federalizing the [Illinois National Guard], deploying the National Guard from other states, or sending active duty military within our own borders," he wrote. "Donald Trump is attempting to manufacture a crisis, politicize Americans who serve in uniform, and continue abusing his power to distract from the pain he's causing families."
Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson said his administration had "grave concerns" about the possible deployment.
"The problem with the President's approach is that it is uncoordinated, uncalled for, and unsound," he shared.
Presidential election results in chicago in 2024
Harris 76%
Trump 22%
No problem here. This is a fundamental conservative principle — have a large, overreaching Federal government usurping state sovereignty.
How sick that 'rule of law', 'limited government' is no longer important when Trump violates same.
There isn't much law enforcement in Chicago.
How sick the false empathy that progressives supposedly had for black Americans.
Trump said, publicly , that black women in Chicago are begging him to send troops. He's a low life. We'll see when they come how many black women welcome it.
Of course whatever the number is Trump will lie about it.
And there we see it ... supporting every move of Trump no matter how much it violates conservative principles.
Trump has no authority to do this. He is not a king, Vic. He is, however, the worst PotUS in our history.
considering black people are victims of murder at incredibly disproportionate rates in Chicago, maybe some of would like murders to stop. It’s very odd to support pro murder policies, but empathy for criminals seems to predominate.
You are proposing a choice where you are either pro murder or pro having the military take over American cities. That is an illegitimate choice.
Yet again you illustrate that core conservative principles will be abandoned when in conflict with partisanship!
You state this, but in your post 7, the only ones on the picture are white.
Maybe Trump is right and they are tired of white liberals ruining their city...along with their socialist mayors.
This has nothing to do with Conservatism. It is a counterrevolution.
On that we agree. Trump and his supporters are violating conservative principles. It is an amazing (and sad) phenomenon.
Good grief
Trump is truly a Nietzschean figure.
The more one tries to hurt him, the stronger he gets.
Is that the 'Jim Jones" effect ?
Jim Jones wouldn't even drink his own kool-aid knowing what a horrible death cyanide poisoning is. He took the coward's way out
didn't he shoot himself ?
yep
I feel very confident Trump could not tell you a single thing about Nietzsche. He'd probably think Nietzsche was a football player. Buffoons cannot be historically important figures, except as the brunt of ridicule.
The problem is that people support him. That they follow an incompetent demagogue clown is dangerous for our nation.
What I fail to understand is the constant whining about a man who is president and will never be president again instead of spending time giving us a viable alternative for the next election. The DNC summer meeting seems to be moving away from that.
You do not understand the criticism of Trump's weekly words and deeds??
He IS the sitting PotUS and we are stuck with him for 3½ more years. You think critics should just STFU??
I think it is more the case that Trump supporters are growing tired of trying, in futility, to defend this incompetent, dangerous clown.
They do.
Trump will either be impeached, die in office, or things will get a lot worse. He is psychologically compelled to escalate his behavior.
No one who sees this clearly is just going to "shut up". People should have thought of this before they voted for him.
Here, you forgot the rest: and will never be president again instead of spending time giving us a viable alternative for the next election. ...
Not really. Think of all the entertainment watching heads explode that would be gone. Actual point is they spend more time complaining about something they can't change and not enough time thinking about next time. It is a question of priorities. Trashing Trump did not get them the 2024 election, do they really think that is all they have to do to win in 2028?
Trump can be impeached or discredited. This is a very serious situation and one we shouldnt wait 3 1/2 years to address. Once his traitorous behavior on Jan6th was glossed over or outright denied by MAGA the stage was set for his entire second term, if there was to be one , to be contested on an ongoing basis. That is where we are now, and it will continue.
Good luck with that.
And?
Your degree is from where?
Shouldn't talk 'bout Biden and the Biden Crime Family that way.
That does not, in any way, mean that criticism of Trump should cease. Instead of fretting about trying to defend Trump against valid criticism, try objectively dealing with the incompetence and self aggrandizement of this dangerous child-man who is wielding the power of the US presidency as if he was king.
The best you can come up with to defend Trump?
Well, I guess like they say, "third time is the charm", but in this case, the only charm that will be realized is by the conservatives if the dems try that extremist bullshit again.
Compared to others on this seed - damn good answer
What's your solution - other than burying him with obnoxious tripe?
"Objectively dealing with" meaning whining about everything he does over and over. Objectively dealing with Trump (IMO) is to build the dem party and platform so they win the next presidential election and give the Repubs something to think about. Trump is president, get over it. Look to the future would be my advice to the dems
Does it really seem like I am fretting? I enjoy the show watching people twist everything to fit a narrative and ignore what would really help a party win (dems) and a party move away from Trump (rep)
Or the dems could continue with doing nothing but complaining about Trump and watch Vance win in 2028 (or 2032 also). Of course that way folks can complain about Vance for 4 or 8 years.
The solution to Trump is for his support to drop. If people would cease mindlessly supporting this demagogue then Congress might grow a pair and do their constitutional duty of check & balance.
You label criticism 'whining'. That is all you have ... you cannot put forth a defense ... just ignore reality, make excuses, and deflect.
You should then look at Trump supporters because if that kind of crap is what floats your boat, there is a show every day of the week.
he can resign
And you can move............ez pz
You don't have to read our comments. EZ PZ
Donald Trump will never get or behave better. The idea that everyone should just shut up and let this lunatic do whatever he wants for the next 3 1/2 years is sick.
Trump is mentally disturbed, is not being treated, and he will only get worse.
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Only when someone else is doing it.
When a sentence contains more than one point and a single point can be identified (via quote) as the focus without changing the meaning, then a partial quote is perfectly fair. The ellipses show that it is a partial quote and no change of meaning occurred.
The problem with a partial quote occurs when it is done to change the meaning by not including the necessary qualifying language.
This all should be obvious.
His "support" will drop when he can NO LONGER accomplish what he sez he will/can do.
Folks should remember that, so far, he has accomplished more than the previous administration - in only SIX MONTHS - and not FOUR OBNOXIOUS PATHETIC YEARS of crying about what he did in his first administration.
Interesting how that bites so many in the butt - having to admit to Trump actually doing the job HE WAS ELECTED TO DO.
As shown by the opposing party daily on this site.
Neither do others - EZ PZ.
everyone should just shut up and let this lunatic do whatever he wants
But - but - it was done so well when the Biden Crime Family was in office \S
You then apparently accept all that Trump does as just fine.
Most of it is bad.
Really? He was elected to engage in pointless tariffs that raise consumer prices and harm international trade relationships (that we depend on)? He was elected to rip domiciled families apart (rather than get rid of criminals and recent illegals)? He was elected to fire inspectors general, fire political opponents, remove security detail and clearances from political opponents, attempt to take over law enforcement in cities, spend like a drunken sailor, act like a fucking clown with his childish social media posts, surround himself in gilded luxury, accept extravagant gifts, extort and threaten private sector media, legal, etc. firms, take over Kennedy center and make himself chairman who picks the winners and MCs events, violate the law and the CotUS, on and on ....?
He was elected to lower prices, stop the flow of illegals, deport criminals, and stop the Ukraine war. You grade him an A? (He gets an A for stopping the flow, his overreach in illegals is a failure.)
Really, 1st, this is what you voted for? An incompetent buffoon who treats the powers of the presidency like a self-aggrandizing child.
Are you saying it is "D"ifferent in this situation?
Better?: "Objectively dealing with" meaning CRITICISING everything he does over and over. Objectively dealing with Trump (IMO) is to build the dem party and platform so they win the next presidential election and give the Repubs something to think about. Trump is president, get over it. Look to the future would be my advice to the dems
Defense for what? I don't need a defense for saying Objectively dealing with Trump (IMO) is to build the dem party and platform so they win the next presidential election and give the Repubs something to think about. Trump is president, get over it. Look to the future would be my advice to the dems Sometimes it seems like "you cannot put forth a defense ... just ignore reality, make excuses, and deflect." is a standard boilerplate response to deflect away from responding to the actual comment. Are you happy with the effort them dems are coming up with a platform and candidate to beat the "Trump" out of the repub party for future presidential elections?
You should then look at Trump supporters because if that kind of crap is what floats your boat, there is a show every day of the week.
That is where we are now, and it will continue.
Obviously, attempting to do the jobs that the American People who elected them EXPECT THEM TO DO has no bearing, eh?
Should we notify Kleenex that they need to really start mass production of tissues for those "we"????? Looks like a lot of crying is gonna continue for the "many a tear" that "has to fall" from those folks.
Given Trump is making stupid moves on almost a daily basis, you have no grounds to complain about criticism of his words and deeds.
You have no defense, all you do is complain about the criticism.
It is pathetic.
I believe you hit upon it earlier, they can't defend his ridiculous behavior, and are growing sick of even the attempt. I would not wish to have to defend it either, as can't defend my own behavior half of the time, and no, criticizing a psycho fckn up our country will not be subsiding.
Nope - didn't vote for either of the idiots - and, from the examples being put forth today for our future, don't see me voting for either party in the next election neither.
When you have learned to look at the WHOLE picture instead of just the little snippets handed out daily - you'll find it amazing that he has accomplished more in six months than the opposition party accomplished in BOTH Obama's and Biden's 14 years - pure, solid, unadultrated futch ups by totally unqualified persons.
There is a difference between pointing out the ridiculousness and suggesting a better use of the dems time than complaining(whining) .
I don't need to defend my opinion. It is what it is and it is rational and well thought out. There is a difference between pointing out the ridiculousness and suggesting a better use of the dems time than complaining(whining) Are you happy with the effort them dems are coming up with a platform and candidate to beat the "Trump" out of the repub party for future presidential elections?
I wouldn't call it pathetic but having complaining about Trump be more important than anything else does get close.
Your comments are consistently pro Trump and anti D, and with your raving about Trump's accomplishments and totally ignoring his failures, wrongdoing, etc. the idea that you are objectively looking at the whole picture is laughable.
You cannot do so. You routinely object to criticism of Trump yet fail to rebut it on a factual and logical basis. Deflection and making shit up does not count as a rebuttal.
Read 2.1.52
This is a list of the top 30 cities with the most crime as of 2024
FBI Crime Report: Ranking the 30 Most Dangerous Cities in America - Thrift My Life
Chicago is not on the list.
And DC is near the bottom of the 30 city list.
Keep arguing that it's not that bad.
And the democrats will keep losing.
Its not in the top 30 cities with the most crime according to the site I linked, which says it is using FBI data.
If its not in the top 30 why is trump invading?
He hates Chicago because of Obama and because Chicago hates him. He's a baby.
Trump has no legal right to invoke National Guard except in emergencies. He is, as is his norm, exceeding his authority.
But that is okay, right? The rule of law is not important anymore. Neither is state sovereignty. If Trump does it, his supporters bow to the king.
And damn, right out of the annals of 2023 .............SMH
www.washingtonpost.com /national-security/2025/08/23/trump-chicago-military-national-guard/
Pentagon plans military deployment in Chicago as Trump eyes crackdown
Dan Lamothe 8-10 minutes 8/23/2025
The Pentagon has for weeks been planning a military deployment to Chicago as President Donald Trump says he wants to crack down on crime, homelessness and undocumented immigration, in a model that could later be used in other major cities, officials familiar with the matter said.
The planning, which has not been previously disclosed, involves several options, including mobilizing at least a few thousand members of the National Guard as soon as September to what is the third most populous city in the United States.
The mission, if approved, would have parallels to the polarizing and legally contested operation that Trump ordered in Los Angeles in June , when he deployed 4,000 members of the California National Guard and 700 active-duty Marines despite the protests of state and local leaders. The use of thousands of active-duty troops in Chicago also has been discussed but is considered less likely at this time, said two officials who, like others interviewed, spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.
The Chicago effort would further expand Trump’s use of military force domestically, even when state and local authorities call the idea unwelcome and unwarranted. Administration officials have defended such deployments, arguing that they are taking necessary steps to bring back law and order.
Trump on Friday touted his ongoing National Guard intervention in D.C. , where more than 2,200 Guard members have been deployed in what he has cast as an overdue effort to crack down on crime. He zeroed in on Chicago as the next target.
“Chicago’s a mess. You have an incompetent mayor. Grossly incompetent,” Trump said, in remarks that were immediately dismissed by Chicago’s leaders as unfounded. “And we’ll straighten that one out probably next. That’ll be our next one after this. And it won’t even be tough.”
The officials familiar with the matter said that a military intervention in Chicago has long been in planning, probably in conjunction with expanded operations by Immigration and Customs Enforcement to search for undocumented migrants.
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National Guard members outside Union Station in D.C. on Wednesday. (Astrid Riecken/For The Washington Post)The deployment would come as federal authorities look for new ways to intensify the identification and deportation of undocumented immigrants, including an expansion of ICE and efforts to challenge “sanctuary” policies , as they seek to meet a directive from White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller to make at least 3,000 arrests per day.
The White House on Saturday declined to answer questions, referring instead to Trump’s comments in the Oval Office on Friday. The Pentagon said in a statement that it would not “speculate on future operations.”
“The Department is a planning organization and is continuously working with other agency partners on plans to protect federal assets and personnel,” the statement said.
The Pentagon’s plans for future deployments come as the Trump administration pressures state and local leaders to allow the federal government to do more to find and deport undocumented immigrants. Attorney General Pam Bondi recently sent a letter to numerous state, county and local leaders stating that “sanctuary policies” impede law enforcement and will be legally contested.
Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson, both Democrats, hit back at Trump in comments Friday, with the governor accusing Trump of attempting to “create chaos.”
“After using Los Angeles and Washington, D.C. as his testing ground for authoritarian overreach, Trump is now openly flirting with the idea of taking over other states and cities,” Pritzker said. “Trump’s goal is to incite fear in our communities and destabilize existing public safety efforts — all to create a justification to further abuse his power.”
They are planning to take over law enforcement everywhere in the country. If it flies in Los Angeles, DC, Chicago, and then New York, it will fly everywhere.
It doesn't "fly" in Los Angeles. The citizens are not going to allow it.
It is illegal unless there is an emergency. Trump does not have the authority to do this. The Insurrection Act applies only under extreme conditions. Lawsuits will ensue.
And then the courts will decide if Trump is trying an overreach of his authority. Just like it should be done. Checks and balances are a wonderful thing,
The courts have shown how Supremely STUPID they can be, say with practically unlimited immunity, as most N E thing can be construed, and or miss, as Trumps whole game plan has been to overload and confuse, fore ignorance is bliss, and on our country, Trump does continue to piss, me and many more,, off, as the underage child rapin wingman refuses to let the list out, as an under breath cough,can be heard by the herd that has finally began at Trump, to SSHOUT !
Just like WHAT , should be done ? No coordination with Local Authorities, PLEASE, that makes zero cents, sorta like you standing up to ANYTHING Trump proposes, say like hangin Pence, asz there is apparently no Offence where asz ewe won' provide for Trump a gate, to slam in our face, and our Forefathers he and those like U, they would hate...
Bouncing checks to unbalance our triple beamed imbalance of the scales of injustice, never B 4 obscene in tis country, are disgusting, and the discussed thing, is how and Y(just because it came out and is directly following X, who the fck knows what it is you and the Kult will agree to next) ewe and the other sheep, to our country, you and Trump don't give a BLEEP!
Do you think it is acceptable to have an individual holding the office of PotUS who must constantly be reigned back into legality by the courts?
We have a system in place and I am fine with it working instead of believing what internet constitutional scholars have to say. Especially partisan ones. I am not sure but I do think Trump is winning lots of the lawsuits being brought against him. I would think Trumps legal team are telling him if he has a shot to win and he goes for it if the say he has a chance even if it is a long shot.
Do you think it is correct that every decision is brought to the court as part of a "Resist" movement only to be lost?
Are you asking TiG or Trump administration, cause there is much being walked back, just as too much other has been granted stays', all whilst Democracy goes to hell in a handbasket, as Trump weaves along the way, gee, hope he doesn't get pulled over for weavin, his fck it bucket list of Weavin Chickens who are again choking, so as to Asphyxiate all that was never wrong
Do you have a problem with the system addressing possible overreach?
WTF do you mean "possible" ?
I mean possible. Do you have a problem with the system addressing possible overreach?
The only overreach i'm currently witnessing is being done by the most corrupt administration ever constructed, and it seems ever focused on how it can get destructed, a system thats worked for two and a half centuries, not 2 and a 1/2 "men", cause enough is enough but don't see you or Trump ever conceding whenis when, so again, define what you are stating (possible) is applicable to.
Until it has been ruled upon by the courts it is possible.
Do you have a problem with the system addressing possible overreach?
You are evading the question. The question was not if the system of trying to keep a PotUS lawful is good or working fine. The question is about the behavior of the PotUS:
You evaded the question and in doing so illustrated that you are okay with a lawless PotUS ... that you applaud him trying to break the law if he has a "shot".
Where has the core conservative principle for 'rule of law' and 'limited government' gone?
You obviously have a problem accepting ABSOLUTE OVEREACH, and your compliance without defiance, is WHY this POS president is able to fleece this country while dismantling it. Peep hol;es who can't comprehend what they are allowing, are dangerous to our country.
Picture Obama sending in Troops to high society Manhattan and arresting all the white collar Wall Street Types, are you saying that would be okay in your view, cause I sure as shit doubt it, but because the LYING POS Ttump is doing it, nothing to see here.
Then say Obama started investigating everyone in Trumps orbit, cause he didn;t have to, as they were criminals already and Trump pardoned and appointed them. Trumps trying to arrest ANYONE who even said a mean thing to Trumpy, the little BABY. FCK him, this ain't what our country is about, till this fifth grader started shout and pout, after blatantly breaking MANY LAWS. He should be in PRISON
Standard response when you get an answer you don't like
Not at all. When I state "We have a system in place and I am fine with it working instead of believing what internet constitutional scholars have to say." that means I am ok with the system in place for every president. That INCLUDES Trump. Any President (INCLUDING) Trump can push the limits and the courts will tell them when they go too far. Again, I am confident Trump is taking advise of council but who knows for sure. In other words I don't care if Trump is pushing the boundaries. Sometimes I am happy when he wins and sometimes I am happy when he loses in court.
The dems are "constantly trying to reign him in" and the fact they are losing many attempts show they may be overreaching in their attempts to resist. Do you have an issue with frivolous actions by dems that the courts shoot down? Do you have an issue of the dems bringing it to court because they might have a "shot" to stop him?
It is a sad commentary when you have to make stuff up. If he is trying to go beyond his powers and gets shot down that is part of the presidency. I am not applauding anything other than the system works. You are making it sound like he is the first and only one to do it and every time the dems bring something to court they win. And don't bother with "he does it more than anyone else". It is not a contest.
Yea but do you have a problem with the system addressing possible overreach?
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Yup, just as I implied. You are okay with Trump breaking the law, violating the CotUS, and breaking historical protocol (e.g. merchandising based on his presidency, naming himself Chairman of the Kennedy Center, ..., on and on an on ...).
I don't know how you constantly come to so many incorrect conclusions.
Nope.
Nope
That is silly. I don't agree with it and don't plan to do it when I am elected president
I don't agree with it. Chances are it will be changed when the dems win the Whitehouse.
I don't care about and on and on
Do you have an issue with frivolous actions by dems that the courts shoot down? Do you have an issue of the dems bringing it to court because they might have a "shot" to stop him?
Answering your question: you write posts that excuse Trump, and then when called out, deny the implication.
I don't know what question(s) you were supposedly answering but the question was (and is) "Do you have an issue with frivolous actions by dems that the courts shoot down? Do you have an issue of the dems bringing it to court because they might have a "shot" to stop him?"
Standard distraction attempt when you have lost a conversation or can't actually respond to a question. Accuse someone of something that actually shows you have not read or understood their posts. Or you make up the "implication" to try get someone to defend something never meant or said.
Figure it out.
Ah, so you don't know.
Considering you responded to 5.1.8 and the only questions in that post are ""Do you have an issue with frivolous actions by dems that the courts shoot down? Do you have an issue of the dems bringing it to court because they might have a "shot" to stop him?" it is obvious a response of "you write posts that excuse Trump, and then when called out, deny the implication." has nothing to do with either one. It does help one understand the consistent misinterpretations of comments if the comment isn't even read before responding though.
More deflection from you.
Excusing Trump followed by pretending you did not do do.
More deflection from you.
Ignoring questions and making up stuff about what I supposedly did while totally ignoring statements directly contradicting .your accusation.
Do you have an issue with frivolous actions by dems that the courts shoot down? Do you have an issue of the dems bringing it to court because they might have a "shot" to stop him?
I am perfectly content with anyone using legal means to stop Trump's illegal and irrational actions.
How can you possibly NOT know that by now?
Mostly because you refused to answer the question.
So the dems can take it to court because there is a shot they might win but it is not OK for Trump to try and do something his legal staff said he has a shot to win. And don't forget it is actually not illegal until the courts have ruled it illegal in which case Trump has to stop.
Cool
As usual you create a strawman in a desperate attempt to defend Trump.
We were talking about Trump engaging in illegal acts ... he constantly does this, hoping that he lands on a biased/pliable judge who will give him an incremental win.
But you do not see this happening. All you do is try to force frame every issue into a D vs. R partisan scenario. It is pathetic.
I was talking about a system we have in place for all presidents. You seem to want a different system for Trump. You are saying he is doing something illegal even though in some cases a court may say what he did is perfectly legal. When he goes beyond what he should they rail him back. But for Trump you have a different rule. He should not try doing anything anyone deems may be beyond his powers.
That is pathetic and not following the intent of the constitution.
.. he constantly does this, hoping that he lands on a biased/pliable judge who will give him an incremental win.
Gee, the dems would never do this in their "Resist" campaign.
The hypocrisy is glaring.
Yet again, you create a strawman.
Yet again, you deny what you are doing.
They should solve the crime problem in DC first. Figure out what they want to do and how. learn at one place before trying somewhere else,
The problem is they are NOT trying to solve any crime problem, and they are dangerous.
What is it now. 9 days without a murder in how many years?
You tell us. My guess is no years, since it happened earlier in 2025.
In March I believe they had a week without murders.
Are we going to spend BILLIONS in every city to reduce crime ? Cheaper to pay the residents
You said that yesterday but did not show any proof. According to AI
According to AI
also see 6.1.4
As of August 21, 2025, Chicago has recorded 262 homicides. That figure reflects a continued decline in murder rates over the past few years—117 fewer than at the same point in 2024
copilot
The comments addressed were about DC, not Chicago.
Frankly, murder rates mean very little other than a way to catch attention on line.
The percentage of people (per 100,000 ) murdered in New Orleans is 0.00052
The percentage of people (per 100,000) murdered in Denver (which has a much lower murder rate) is 0.00012
One is 52 per 100,000 people and the other is 12.
There is four times more chance you will be murdered in New Orleans than Denver. Sounds ominous unless you realize both numbers are vey small.
Its like saying you had a dollar and now you have four times more money, four dollars. Great.
Why is such a murder rate so acceptable?
It's bizarre. They flip out over micro agressions and how they supposedly destroy lives and than casually wave away hundreds of predominantly black residents of a city being murdered every year.
Probably because 52 out of 100,000 is a small number.
New Orleans murder rate is much much higher than Denvers but in both cases the overall odds you will be murdered is less than 1 in 1000.
Of course that varies by neighborhood, but the overall stats are what they are.
If I tell you there is a 1 in 1000 chance you will win a raffle prize, and then tell you a mistake was made and your chances are actually 2 in 1000, would you really think you are closer to winning?
They don't want to highlight the fact that most, if not all, of the murderers of those blacks are other blacks.
What do you think the effect of murder is on those 52 per 100,000 peoples families, friends, neighborhoods? Why doesn't that matter to progressives?
no one is saying the effect on the friends and families doesnt matter.
there is just not a really meaningful difference between various cities murder rates.
They don't matter because people in white neighborhoods in the same city are much less likely to get murdered. So apparently its not a problem.
Of course there is. People pay attention to crime rates when they decide where to live, where to send their kids to school, whether to open or keep a business in a location etc. When one city has half the violent crime rate of another, it becomes much more attractive for investment, living etc thus allowing it to function.
that makes the perception meaningful, it doesnt make the statistic meaningful.
Like I said, there is four times more chance you will be murdered in New Orleans than Denver. Neither of them are high numbers, so the difference doesnt mean much.
Again, you admit the perception based on those statistics matter so it absolutely "means much."
Denver attracts businesses and high income earners. New Orleans not so much and crime plays a big role in that.
You know Chicago fairly well. When these thousands of Guard troops come, are they going to be in Englewood or the West side, or are they going to be in Grant Park, Lincoln Park, and on Michigan avenue and State St. ?
Why arent troops being sent to Houston? Houstons population size, crime rate , and murder rate are very similar to Chicago's.
Seems ICE is planning that one, and it should yield an end to a LOT of the problem.
But their political leanings are not. You would either be a complete moron or a Trump sycophant intentionally being obtuse to think this has anything to do with actual crime rates and isn't 100% about politics.
If they are deployed to the downtown area, than the police could concentrate on the violent areas. Wouldn't that be a good thing?
Houston's murder rate is two to three times less than Chicago's.
Houstons murder rate this year is 13, Chicagos is 19. There is no appreciable difference in the two other than some people claim there is.
The rest of crime statistics show Houston with a slightly higher rate.
Houston is in Texas, of course he wont send troops there.
The mayor of Houston better not say he's fat though, that could set hell loose on them.
If the National Guard was actually deployed to high crime areas in DC they might be able to come up with a plan. But so far they are only hanging around in groups at the tourist attractions
Exactly. As the old saying goes, "Clean up your own house before you dis other's." In this case, it is indeed happening..........in the DC as a whole.
Chicago reacts to Trump threat
A few white liberals in Chicago hating on Trump...
Shocking s/
Probably live in rich neighborhoods too.
I dont think rich white liberals go to protest gatherings.
By the way, my new avatar photo was taken right outside the Trump Tower on Chicago's riverfront.
Good for you...
I think they do.
You suggesting those fingers belong to folks living in high murder rate areas of Chicago?
And?
Old white people are massively over represented at protests.
Trumps approval is 22 points underwater in a new poll (38-60)
Poll: Trump Approval Suffers Decline Among His Base
So you proved my point about white liberals hating on Trump in Chicago\
Thanks
Too bad for you every other poll in the country disagrees
Latest Polls 2025, 2026, 2028 | RealClearPolling
Yea, it must be terrible when anyone threatens to stop crime. S/
Not why he's doing it.
Better add Chicago to that
When exactly were liberals defending violent criminals in DC? I heard many comments about how crime was down in DC, which it is, but I didn't hear anyone saying violent criminals shouldn't be arrested and prosecuted for whatever crimes they committed. Same thing in Chicago.
So, at what level of crime should we call in the troops?
When we look at the most dangerous cities in the US two of the top 3 are Republican run States and cities.
Why isn't Donald sending the troops to those cities? Oh, that's right, that's not the stupid-as-fuck narrative he wants to feed to his dumb-as-rocks base who don't actually care about crime rates, they just want to "Own the libs!" and sending troops to liberal cities pisses them off and thus the base can cheer that Trump is "Owning the Libs!".
A bunch of white liberals telling trump their IQ.
Or a bunch of tax paying patriotic American citizens telling the Felon-in-Chief to "FUCK OFF!". They not only have a right to do so, but some might see it as a patriotic duty to tell scum bag convicted felon sexual predators and wannabe authoritarians who are ripping our country apart all to feed their oversized undeserved ego, and their enabler sycophants, to "FUCK OFF!".
Apparently Trump has the right to do whatever he wants. Once they got away with LA it was pretty clear it would be done somewhere else. He will say it is an emergency and some court will uphold it. Sure there will be protests in Chicago, probably large ones, but in the end there is nothing short of violence that will prevent it. I dont think people want to die over a few thousand troops on an American city streets. Creeping dictatorship.
And trump too stupid to understand the numbers.
Well, look at that. Hard time sorting out if this is MENSA or NAMBLA displaying their respective IQ's. Well, won't you looky there. They all think alike. Shocking.........../s
While there is no indication that can be seen of those raising their fingers in defiance of belonging to either of those groups, they are at least focusing their ire toward a proved sexual predator and actual accused pedophile.
Ahhhh... yes. This is right out of the Project 2025 playbook. I've even commented on this very scenario prior to the election, but Trump doesn't know anything about Project 2025 right? /s
Put NG troops in blue states under the guise of law enforcement. Slot empathetic stooges in charge of implementing policy, take over the courts and law enforcement. Then suspend the constitution... all under a fake emergency.
It's incumbent on every citizen to undermine and resist every illegal act committed by and under the direction of tyrants. It's now looking more and more like a second civil war is imminent.
No doubt about it. Uncle Sam's yacht club coined the phrase "Stand-by for heavy rolls".
I'm hearing Trump signed an EO saying a full one year prison sentence for anyone burning a US flag...
We are losing the 1st Amendment, the 3rd, the 4th, the 5th is on life support, the 6th is completely dead, the 9th is on it's way out and the 10th is only works for Republicans in Republican states.
Yup... we're fucked folks!
Tim Miller brought a couple good points afterward on You Tube. What about flying it upside down? What about American flags with Trumps face on them? What about using the American flag to beat cops?
How much jail time for this ?
Well, it's clearly against the Flag Code, but that's not regulatory.
More respect needs to be shown for the flag from these MAGAs
you understand progressives will now go around burning flags and Trump will simply point out progressives are burning flags and not prosecute them...
Trump can't create a crime or determine sentences based on an Executive Order. No President can. It's another Trump fraud.
While we know Trump is making a mockery of the law and our freedoms once he gets away with slipping armed, uniformed thugs into blue state run cities the the law is what he says it is.
You understand Trump and the MAGAtards will go around using progressive flag burning protests as supporting evidence for the need to use armed troops to keep the peace...
AKA...False Flag Operations
You were saying?
This where Trump wants to send the US military
Looks like a nice day in Millennial Park.
I love that sculpture!
That looks like a very nice neighborhood
JB Pritzker got down to business today
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Right direction, but there are still too many who cannot or will not see how Trump is harming this nation (and its people).