Why DC Sandwich Thrower Wasn't Indicted
By: Michael Luciano (Mediaite)
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A former assistant attorney general at the U.S. Department of Justice said federal prosecutors failed to secure an indictment against the D.C. sandwich thrower because of their attempt at "overcharging" him.
This month, Charles Sean Dunn was seen on camera hurling a sub at a Customs and Border Protection agent before fleeing the scene amid President Donald Trump's clampdown in Washington, D.C. Dunn, 37, was later apprehended and charged with felony assault against the officer. At the time, Dunn worked for the Department of Justice's criminal division, but was subsequently fired by Attorney General Pam Bondi. The case against Dunn was brought by the office of U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Jeanine Pirro.
After the incident, Pirro recorded a video in which she said, "He thought it was funny. Well, he doesn't think it's funny today because we charged him with a felony assault on a police officer, and we're going to back the police to the hilt."
A D.C. grand jury was unmoved by Pirro's attempt to secure an indictment, and on Wednesday's Deadline: White House on MSNBC, ex-DOJ official Mary McCord offered an explanation.
"I mean, we have a video," she noted. "We can see exactly what happened. I'm not sure what else a grand jury would need. So, this says to me, this is a grand jury that is essentially nullifying. They're saying, 'You're presenting something here, and we either don't think it meets the elements of the crime, or even if it does, you are so overcharging, that we refuse to go for it.'"
McCord went on to say that the DOJ has Dunn dead to rights on a crime, just not the crime it tried to charge him with.
"It's a sandwich," she continued. "Should he have done it? No. Is it technically an assault on a police officer? Yes. If it's going to be charged at all - and most of the time, something like this would not be - it would be a misdemeanor at most… The grand jurors, they hear lots of evidence in lots of cases. So it's not like they come in just to hear this case. So they've seen real crime, right? They've had cases presented to them that are actual, real crimes. And I'm sure they have returned indictments. And this one was a bridge too far."
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The videotape doesnt lie.
Correct. It's nullification.
Yeah a jury didnt want to charge him with a felony for throwing a sandwich. Jeanine Pirro looks pretty stupid now.
If you can apply these facts to the felony assault law, that’s a possibility, but I doubt the facts here meet the elements of felony assault.
Just now?
Evening...geez you mob are confusing..
He didn't throw a sandwich he threw a bread roll...
A sandwich is two pieces of bread with a filling..if you walk into a shop and ask for a salad (sanga) sandwich this is what you will get...as pictured below...
From what I saw he threw a bread roll as pictured. If you ask for a salad roll this is what you will get...
So if you call a bread roll a sandwich, what do you call the top photo?
Fast food places in America dont sell sandwiches as you describe them. I suppose the roll or bun is considered more appropriate to hold the filling together when you're on the run.
Yyyessss..but if you walked into a cafe or Milk Bar I think your equivalent is a dinner and asked for a salad sandwich you would still get it in a roll or two pieces of bread?
How do you distinguish between the two what you want?
We have sandwiches in a sit down setting, like you say , a "diner." Club sandwiches or bacon lettuce and tomato, and some chicken sandwiches use regular bread.
Absolutely. It is almost unheard of for a Grand Jury not to bring charges. This was another highly partisan DC jury that is a disgrace to the nation.
The top one is a sammich
The bottom one is a hoagie
Oops sorry my spelling mistake.. it's late... can't sleep blowing 100kph winds here at the moment...
I assume you also have toasted sandwiches like tomato ham and cheese?
Geez I am getting hungry might have to go and raid the fridge..😁
Hmmm sanga sounds more dignified than a sammich. 😁
Where on earth did hoagie come from for a bread roll?
Hoagie is a term that came from Philadelphia. The dockworkers at Hog Yard would bring sammiches in a bread roll. They started calling them hoagies
Hoagie is a term really only used on the East Cost primarily Pennsylvania and New Jersey
Sammich is a hillbilly term for sandwich. Sammich is easier to say and spell
I think some people put tomato in their grilled sammiches. When I'm feeling nostalgic (Woolworth's lunch counter) I like a grilled cheese made with simple white bread and American cheese with a hot bowl of tomato soup.
When I'm feeling fancy I like grilled ham and swiss on rye
Assault can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony depending on the severity of the incident. This grand jury did the right thing. IMO in order to get a felony charge the assailant should be actually trying to injure the victim. Throwing a sandwich at somebody in riot gear and bullet proof vest is not going to injure them. Any assistant district attorney should know this. I understand they want to make an example of someone but, if this is the best example they've got, maybe this whole thing is overblown.
Also a sandwich.
Sandwich is the broad classification covering most things served between two pieces of bread.
In the US, what you call a "bread roll" is referred to as either a "submarine sandwich" ("sub" for short), or a "hoagie".
Restaurants also refer to hamburgers as "sandwiches" among employees.
A "bacon cheese croissant" is a sandwich.
An Egg-McMuffin is a sandwich.
When you come to Texas, I highly recommend a "chopped beef sandwich", which is slow cooked brisket on a hamburger bun served with molasses based barbeque sauce.
For whatever reason, we break the "between two pieces of bread" rule for hot dogs, bratwurst or other type of link style meats. I dunno. It wasn't my decision.
Where I live, we'd call the bottom one a sub.
Also, trying to charge this guy with a felony was ridiculous. Like trying to charge the guy with assault with a deadly weapon.
"I want a helicopter, one million dollars and all the cops to leave or the hostage gets a turkey club right in the earhole!!!"
This is a misdemeanor six days a week, and twice on Sunday. But grand juries are generally there for felonies, not misdemeanors.
I don’t know if a misdo was even an option on this charge, but since the government’s panties are in such a wad over this, they obviously were going for the most extreme charge.
Thank God he didn’t throw a felony sized hand held victual
Because it was a bunch of bologna.
How do you know it wasn’t Genoa, Capicola or Proscuitto?
As an Italian American I can tell you if someone gave me a subway sub and told me it was Genoa, Capicola or Prosciutto I would throw it too. Stick with their ham or Turkey.
Then it wouldn't be funny. You ever hear of a bunch of Genoa?
Chew on that.
Now that is funny.
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Chicken/Tuna salad/melts are pretty darn good - as is the "loaded beef/cheese".
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Wasn't cheesy enough?
It was such a mess after he threw it all that was left was de-brie...
Now if he had thrown a meatball sub at the officer that could have been felony assault. Their meatballs are as hard and tasteless as golf balls
Or if he had of chucked Macca's (McDonald's) crap that would automatically warrant a life sentence...
Gotta disagree with the golf ball comment. Golf balls taste much better than meatballs 'cause they collect all the herbicides/pesticides/mud/left over ketchup/mustard from the hot dogs eaten and beers splashed. Little hard to chew, but still better flavored - meatballs taste like Mickey D's hamburgers - yuck.
No Way is this a felony, littering maybe
The grand jury used their common sense.
The grand jury was in DC. What did the prosecution expect was going to happen?