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Jeffrey Epstein Alleged in Emails That Trump Knew of His Conduct - The New York Times

  
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Jeffrey Epstein Alleged in Emails That Trump Knew of His Conduct - The New York Times
In a message obtained by Congress, the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein wrote that Donald J. Trump spent hours at his house with one of Mr. Epstein's victims.

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In a message obtained by Congress, the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein wrote that Donald J. Trump spent hours at his house with one of Mr. Epstein's victims.

House Democrats on Wednesday released emails in which Jeffrey Epstein wrote that President Trump had "spent hours at my house" with one of Mr. Epstein's victims, among other messages that suggested that the convicted sex offender believed Mr. Trump knew more about his abuse than he has acknowledged.

Mr. Trump has emphatically denied any involvement in or knowledge of Mr. Epstein's sex-trafficking operation. He has said that he and Mr. Epstein, the disgraced financier who died by suicide in federal prison in 2019, were once friendly but had a falling out.

But Democrats on the House Oversight Committee said the emails, which they selected from thousands of pages of documents received by their panel, raised new questions about the relationship between the two men. In one of the messages, Mr. Epstein flatly asserted that Mr. Trump "knew about the girls," many of whom were later found by investigators to have been underage. In another, Mr. Epstein pondered how to address questions from the news media about their relationship as Mr. Trump was becoming a national political figure.

The White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The messages are certain to inflame the debate on Capitol Hill over the Trump administration's handling of the Epstein files, and top officials' decision to backtrack on a promise to fully release them. That issue, which has split Republicans and alienated some of Mr. Trump's right-wing supporters, had faded to the background as the government shutdown dragged on.

But the House is set to return on Wednesday to clear legislation to end the shutdown, and attention is likely to shift back to the Epstein matter.

"These latest emails and correspondence raise glaring questions about what else the White House is hiding and the nature of the relationship between Epstein and the president," Representative Robert Garcia of California, the top Democrat on the Oversight Committee, said in a statement.

The three separate email exchanges released on Wednesday were all from after Mr. Epstein's 2008 plea deal in Florida on state charges of soliciting prostitution, in which federal prosecutors agreed not to pursue charges. They came years after Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein had a reported falling out in the early 2000s. One was addressed to Mr. Epstein's longtime confidante Ghislaine Maxwell, while two were with the author Michael Wolff.

Image"These latest emails and correspondence raise glaring questions about what else the White House is hiding and the nature of the relationship between Epstein and the president," said Representative Robert Garcia, Democrat of California.Credit...Eric Lee for The New York Times

In one email from April 2011, Mr. Epstein told Ms. Maxwell, who was later convicted on charges related to facilitating his crimes, "I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump." He added that an unnamed victim "spent hours at my house with him ,, he has never once been mentioned."

"I have been thinking about that," Ms. Maxwell wrote back.

In an email from January 2019, Mr. Epstein wrote to Mr. Wolff of Mr. Trump: "Of course he knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop." House Democrats, citing an unnamed whistle-blower, said this week that Ms. Maxwell was preparing to formally ask Mr. Trump to commute her federal prison sentence.

The emails were provided to the Oversight Committee along with a larger tranche of documents from Mr. Epstein's estate that the panel requested as part of its investigation into Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell, who is serving a 20-year sentence on sex-trafficking charges.

The committee's staff redacted victims' names and any identifying information from the emails. Because the full set of documents has not been released, it was not clear whether the emails had been excerpted from larger conversations that might have provided fuller context.

Republicans on the Oversight Committee accused Democrats of politicizing the investigation. "Democrats continue to carelessly cherry-pick documents to generate clickbait that is not grounded in the facts," a committee spokeswoman said. "The Epstein Estate has produced over 20,000 pages of documents on Thursday, yet Democrats are once again intentionally withholding records that name Democrat officials."

The Republicans also identified the victim whose name was redacted in the emails as Virginia Giuffre, who died by suicide in April. Ms. Giuffre had said that Ms. Maxwell recruited her into Mr. Epstein's sex ring while she was working at Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump's private club and residence in Palm Beach, as a teenager.

In a 2016 deposition for a civil case, Ms. Giuffre was asked if she believed Mr. Trump had witnessed the sexual abuse of minors in Mr. Epstein's home. "I don't think Donald Trump participated in anything," she said.

"I never saw or witnessed Donald Trump participate in those acts, but was he in the house of Jeffrey Epstein," Ms. Giuffre added. "I've heard he has been, but I haven't seen him myself so I don't know."

Mr. Trump has condemned continued questions about his handling of the case as a "hoax" perpetrated by Democrats. He has called Mr. Epstein a "creep" and has insisted he never engaged in any wrongdoing with him or Ms. Maxwell.

Both Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein split their time between New York and Palm Beach, Fla., and they were friends in the 1990s and early 2000s. Their relationship appeared to fizzle out around 2004, though Mr. Trump and those close to him have offered different accounts of why. By one account, they fell out after trying to outbid each other on a piece of Palm Beach real estate.

Last summer, Mr. Trump said that Mr. Epstein had "hired" away spa attendants at Mar-a-Lago. He said that he had kicked Mr. Epstein out of his club, and that he believed one of the women was Ms. Giuffre.

At the time Mr. Epstein emailed Ms. Maxwell in 2011 calling Mr. Trump the "dog that didn't bark," Mr. Trump was a reality television star and New York tabloid celebrity who was years away from becoming president.

ImageMr. Epstein and his longtime confidante Ghislaine Maxwell in New York in 2005.Credit...Joe Schildhorn/Patrick McMullan, via Getty Images

Around the same time, according to documents previously released by the Oversight Committee, Mr. Epstein was emailing staff members about negative press coverage he had recently received about the abuse that took place inside his home in Florida.

Earlier this year, the Trump administration released the transcript of a courthouse interview with Ms. Maxwell, who acknowledged that Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein had once had a social relationship, but denied any connection between Mr. Trump and the sex-trafficking ring.

Mr. Epstein's email from 2019, which claims Mr. Trump "knew about the girls" and asked Ms. Maxwell "to stop," was sent to Mr. Wolff, who had recently written a tell-all book about the president.

Mr. Epstein was months away from the arrest and federal charges that would send him to prison, but he was the focus of significant attention after The Miami Herald had published a series of articles drawing renewed attention to the secret agreement he had signed in 2008.

In his email, Mr. Epstein mentioned a victim of his sex-trafficking operation. He also mentioned Mar-a-Lago, then disputed that Mr. Trump had ever asked him to resign from the club. "Never a member ever," Mr. Epstein wrote.

Mr. Wolff was also involved in a third email exchange, which began on Dec. 15, 2015, the night of a debate in the Republican presidential primary. Mr. Wolff emailed Mr. Epstein and warned him that CNN was "planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you — either on air or in scrum afterwards."

Mr. Epstein wrote back, "If we were able to craft an answer for him, what do you think it should be?"

Mr. Wolff advised inaction, suggesting that Mr. Trump might try to deny a close association with Mr. Epstein. "I think you should let him hang himself," he wrote of Mr. Trump. "If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable P.R. and political currency" that could be used to "hang him" later or "save him, generating a debt."

Mr. Trump never received a question about the matter in that debate, according to a transcript. It was unclear if he was asked about it separately.

The Democrats' release of the emails came hours before Speaker Mike Johnson was scheduled to swear in Representative-elect Adelita Grijalva, Democrat of Arizona, whom he has avoided seating for nearly two months since she won her election.

She is expected to provide the final signature necessary on a petition to force a House vote on a measure demanding that the Trump administration release all of its investigative material pertaining to Mr. Epstein. The White House has strongly opposed the measure.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

Now that the shutdown is out of the way everyone can go back to connecting the dots between Trump and Epstein. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year
Now that the shutdown is out of the way everyone can go back to connecting the dots between Trump and Epstein.

After giving the Trump administration more time to run those 24 hour paper shredders.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

Lol. With that trivia?

That's all they could dig up?

Evil is as evil does!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    last year

If you want to call someone who looked the other way at underage sexual exploitation "trivia" , I suppose that is your right as a conservative. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.1    last year

It's creepy as hell

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.3  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

Trump had Epstein murdered. Who doesn't know this is a fool

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.3.1  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @1.3    last year

Epstein's testimony would have put Trump in prison. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.3.2  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @1.3.1    last year

The president of the USA is a murderer/rapist/serial liar. Far right wing fascists still support him. Seems every republican who does is the worst of the worst. Trump and all far right wing fascists need to be dead yesterday from natural causes before they destroy democracy. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.3.3  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @1.3.2    last year

Not a threat. Just an observation.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  cjcold @1.3.1    last year
"Epstein's testimony would have put Trump in prison." 

Not as long as he owns the SCotUS.  What he has already been convicted of that SHOULD have put him in prison didn't do so, as the whole world knows. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3.5  Ozzwald  replied to  cjcold @1.3.2    last year
The president of the USA is a murderer/rapist/serial liar.

And most likely a pedophile.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year
"In a message obtained by Congress, the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein wrote that Donald J. Trump spent hours at his house with one of Mr. Epstein's victims."

But surely during those hours all Trump did was discuss real estate development with the young sex slave.  /s

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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WASHINGTON ― Democrats on the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday released   three email messages   from sexual predator Jeffrey Epstein talking about President Donald Trump.

The emails, obtained from a committee subpoena to the Epstein estate, have previously not been made public, the Democrats said.

In one of the messages, from 2011, Epstein tells Ghislaine Maxwell, his partner in crime, that Trump is the “dog that hasn’t barked” because he’d spent time with someone whose name is redacted as “VICTIM.”

“i want you to realize that that dog that hasn’t barked is trump,” Epstein wrote. ”[VICTIM] spent hours at my house with him,, he has never once been mentioned. police chief. etc. im 75% there.”

At the time, Epstein had already been convicted in Florida of felony solicitation of prostitution. In 2019, he was indicted on federal sex-trafficking charges and then died in prison. The Trump administration has refused to make public its investigative files related to the Epstein case. 

“These latest emails and correspondence raise glaring questions about what else the White House is hiding and the nature of the relationship between Epstein and the President,” Rep. Robert Garcia (D-Calif.) said in a press release. 

Jeffrey Epstein Claimed Trump Knew About His Conduct, New Emails Show
 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year

Epstein was just days away from testifying agains Trump.

Trump had Epstein murdered for what he knew about Trump.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3  Right Down the Center    last year

Release it all and let the chips fall where they may but if "suggested that the convicted sex offender believed Mr. Trump knew more about his abuse than he has acknowledged." I see the dems taking a nothing burger and squeezing it for all they can.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @3    last year

Since Trump wont go through another election with his name on the ballot, his knowing that Epstein was a pedophile is probably not as big as deal as it would have been if Trump tried to ask people to vote for him again, but it is not nothing.  I think he knew Epstein was making sex slaves out of 15 or 16 year old girls and stood by and said nothing. That is not historically presidential timber in this country. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    last year

Some have been calling for his impeachment since he got elected.  If anything other than "suggested and believed" I think the pull of another impeachment will be too great to ignore.  Until then it is a nothingburger.

Maybe he did and maybe he didn't.  This does not help prove the case either way.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.1    last year

Of course he should be impeached. After Jan 6th everyone knew he was guilty as hell , including all the Republicans in Congress.  But they totally lacked guts, and they will lack guts again.  But as to what he deserves, of course he deserves to be impeached. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    last year
Of course he should be impeached. After Jan 6th everyone knew he was guilty as hell , including all the Republicans in Congress. 

Playing fast and loose with the word everyone

But they totally lacked guts, and they will lack guts again.  But as to what he deserves, of course he deserves to be impeached. 

Pretty sure you can't be impeached for "deserves to be impeached".

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1.4  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    last year

Trump was raping those young girls. Wake up!

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.5  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @3.1.4    last year

‘Trump was raping those young girls’

Your proof of this is what?

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.2  cjcold  replied to  Right Down the Center @3    last year

Trump was culpable in all of Epstein's crimes. Best friends.

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.2.1  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @3.2    last year

The president of the United States is a rapist.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  cjcold @3.2    last year

Guilt by association?  That's new.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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Karoline Lashes Out at Democrats for Trying to ‘Embarrass’ Trump With Epstein Emails: ‘F ...

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White House press secretary   Karoline Leavitt   lashed out at Democrats on Wednesday, accusing them of pushing a false narrative with the media after bombshell emails written by late child sex predator   Jeffrey Epstein   about President   Donald Trump   dropped.

CNN’s   Alayna Treene   reported on Leavitt’s statement during Wednesday’s   The Situation Room .

Democrats on the House Oversight Committee released the   emails , one of which includes Epstein saying in 2011 that Trump, a former friend, “spent hours” with an alleged victim at his house. He also at one point said Trump “knew about the girls.” The president is not, however, being accused of any wrongdoing based on the emails.

Leavitt said Democrats “selectively” chose emails and leaked them to the media in an effort to “embarrass” the president.

“Karoline Leavitt really lashing out at Democrats and arguing that they’re selectively leaking some of these documents in order to try and embarrass the president. She writes, quote, ‘the Democrats selectively leaked emails to the liberal media to create a fake narrative to smear President Trump,'” Treene reported.

Leavitt noted that the redacted   name   in the emails is the late   Virginia Giuffre , an alleged   Epstein   victim who long maintained she never saw Trump take part in Epstein’s crimes.

“They go on to argue things that we know they have in the past, which is that the president had long ago kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of his Mar-a-Lago club, calling him a creep and all of that that they have highlighted. And we should point out that one, Donald Trump has never been convicted or accused of really any wrong doing here by any victims,” Treene reported.

Epstein died of an apparent suicide in 2019 as he was facing sex trafficking charges. His longtime associate   Ghislaine Maxwell , who was receiving some of the emails in question, is currently serving 20 years for sex trafficking.

Watch above via   CNN .

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.1  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year

She is just another Trump whore with no morals.

Oops, she forgot her weekly dye job. Her roots are showing.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    last year

Whomp whomp… sad trombone music for democrats.

the “gotcha” is the victim who already testified that she worked for trump and he never acted inappropriately towards her.  Now democrats have to believe Epstein and attack his victims to get trump….

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    last year

If true it still won't stop some from continuing the narrative.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    last year

It seems odd that NONE of the alleged victims have ever come out and stated as having been approached by Trump

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2    last year

It is not from lack of trying to find one, even if it is a person looking for a payout or their 15 minutes of fame.  Maybe they just want to be closer to the midterms.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2    last year

Some of the best attorneys in the world have spent a good part of the last decade trying to find any rich person, not just Trump, who Epstein provided women too.  They've successfully sued a bank and Prince Andrew.  Nothing has prevented any victim from naming any other rapist or suing them.  

Seems more than likely Epstein and Maxwell were the only ones actually abusing underage women.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.2.3  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.2    last year

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Sean Treacy
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5.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  cjcold @5.2.3    last year

That you equate calling her someone who abused underage women as defending her is bizarre, to put it kindly. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.2.5  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.2    last year

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JohnRussell
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5.2.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.2    last year

ABC News reported today that Trump cabinet figures tried to get Lauren Boebert to take her name off the motion in the House to release the files. Why would that be? 

I think the full Epstein files will show Trump knew that Epstein was abusing underage girls and said or did nothing.  Is it ok, to you, if it turns out Trump knew about crimes related to underage sex committed by his friend and looked the other way?  This is the scandal.  This is what Trump doesnt want discovered. 

Besides that it is known that Trump has had prurient interest throughout his life in teenage girls. He judged teen age "modeling" pageants where teenage girls in skimpy and tight bathing suits paraded in front of him and the other judges , one of which was later criminally connected to pedophilia. 

Then there is this 

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Trump essentially bragged about this behavior in an appearance on the Howard Stern show. 

Here's what will happen. It will come out that Trump didnt say anything about Epstein because he didnt think it was so bad, and when that happens MAGA will say "so what?". 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.6    last year

Here's what will happen. It will come out that Trump didnt say anything about Epstein because he didnt think it was so bad, and when that happens MAGA will say "so what?". 

in 2024. CNN reports that according to a 2011 email written by Virginia Giuffre, Bill Clinton had stopped Vanity Fair from writing sex trafficking articles on Epstein. Exactly zero politicians cared about this story last year. Zero politicians care now. 

Everyone in Clinton/trump/schumer world and all the democrats he donated to knew,  at the least, he liked girls who were 18 or so. His plane was publicly known as the Lolita express.  Everyone knew.  The only reason democrats pretend to  care, now, is it’s a talking point to attack trump. 

democrats have said “so what” about this for years.  Why do you think trump supprters should act differently than democrats have?  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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www.mediaite.com   /politics/karoline-leavitt-pressed-on-report-trump-admin-is-trying-to-flip-lauren-boebert-on-epstein-files-release/

Karoline Leavitt Pressed On Report Trump Admin Is Trying to Flip Lauren Boebert On Epstein Files Release

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ABC News’s chief White House correspondent,   Mary Bruce , pressed Trump Press Secretary   Karoline Leavitt   on Wednesday about reports that Trump officials are pressuring Rep.   Lauren Boebert   (R-CO) to flip on her vote to release the   Epstein files.

ABC   reported   earlier in the morning that “administration officials met with Rep. Lauren Boebert Wednesday morning” about her joining the discharge petition to force a vote on the release of the files. “Attorney General   Pam Bondi , Deputy AG   Todd Blanche,   and FBI Director   Kash Patel   were among those present for the meeting, which occurred at the White House,” added ABC, citing unnamed sources.

Leavitt raged against the Democrats for releasing new emails regarding Trump’s relationship to Epstein on Wednesday when asked about them at the briefing. Bruce interjected, “In transparency, Karoline, why are White House officials then meeting with Representative Boebert in an effort to try and get her to not sign this petition calling for the release of the files?”

“Doesn’t it show transparency that members of the Trump administration are willing to brief members of Congress whenever they please? Doesn’t that show our level of transparency? Doesn’t it show the level of transparency when we are willing to sit down with members of Congress and address their concerns?” Leavitt replied, adding:

That is—that’s a defining factor of transparency: having discussions, having discussions with members of Congress about various issues. And I’m not going to detail conversations that took place in the Situation Room in the press briefing room.

Boebert is one of four Republicans who have joined Democrats to move to release the full Epstein files. Reps.   Thomas Massie   (R-KY),   Nancy Mace   (R-SC), and   Marjorie Taylor Greene   (R-GA) are the others bucking party leadership to join the petition.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @6    last year

If Trump is completely innocent, why would he be trying to keep the files from release?  It doesnt make any sense. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

Here is a pretty deep dive into this news for anyone who might be interested

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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8  Colour Me Free    last year

Wowza really? Talk about desperate and pathetic.  Truth means nothing when speculation and innuendo rule the day ... I am not a diehard Trump supporter, but this is BS ...

One does not have to support Trump in order to see the desperation of the party of (D) at play .. if you want to take Trump down .. then finally come up with something legitimate!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Colour Me Free @8    last year
  Truth means nothing when speculation and innuendo rule the day ... I am not a diehard Trump supporter, but this is BS ...

What is bs?  

I"ll ask you the same question I asked Sean -  Is it ok, to you, if it turns out Trump knew about crimes related to underage sex committed by his friend and looked the other way? 

Low lifes behave like that and it is accepted to a degree because they are low lifes. Is Trump a low life? Is there no standard for his behavior? 

Did Trump tell Epstein "I know what you're doing and stop today or I"m turning you in", or did he look the other way? The president should be forced to answer that question. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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9  Snuffy    last year

Man I am so sick of the partisan bullshit that gets slung around. Here we have the Democrats who released three emails (out of how many?) that they use to insinuate that Trump is tainted. Right after the Republicans release their own 'cherry-picked' emails to show otherwise. 

I think the saddest part of all of this is that the sycophants don't realize this is all one big kabuki play to keep their respective base fired up. They don't (or refuse to) see that their respective parties are just playing with them to keep them fired up. All in an effort to keep them from looking behind the curtain. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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9.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Snuffy @9    last year
behind the curtain. 

Sorry Snuffy, but Oz zy ain't Z[nnn, behind the curtain, like Trump's catchin some zzz;s in front of the curtain, that hopefully gets draped over the drapes

 
 
 
evilone
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9.2  evilone  replied to  Snuffy @9    last year
I think the saddest part of all of this is that the sycophants don't realize this is all one big kabuki play to keep their respective base fired up.

People know. Partisans are complicit being willfully obtuse and hyperbolically hypocritical. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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10  bugsy    last year

Leftists will never accept that if there was ANY evidence against Trump, it would have been released (leaked) years ago.

Leftists……just stop. Why do you see you are embarrassing yourselves but obviously do not care. 

All because of BUTTruuuuuuuuump.

 
 
 
evilone
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10.1  evilone  replied to  bugsy @10    last year
Leftists……just stop. Why do you see you are embarrassing yourselves but obviously do not care. 

I suppose when Dems take the House again they can spend four years in multiple Congressional investigations that generate absolutely nothing like the MAGA owned House did to Biden... It seems like this is all Congress is good for these days.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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10.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  evilone @10.1    last year
It seems like this is all Congress is good for these days.

Political theater has become the best way to get re-elected.

 
 
 
evilone
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10.1.2  evilone  replied to  Jack_TX @10.1.1    last year
Political theater has become the best way to get re-elected.

Political theater has become the best way to raise campaign funding, which is probably the same thing... yeah. 

 
 

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