Trump : American War Casualties Are Just "The Way It Is"
Trump read his heartfelt thoughts about the war with Iran off a teleprompter about an hour ago, but cavalierly ad libbed that American War deaths are "the way it is" , casualizing the loss of American lives. What else did anyone seriously expect? Trump doesn't care about our troops lives, he cares about exerting power and extorting financial concessions that will benefit him personally from various world governments and business cartels.
I don't think a spate of terrorist attacks within our borders would really bother him much. They would give him a way to exert more executive power leading up to the elections. Anyone with half a brain understands he is going to try and rig the midterms.
God help us, please.
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Trump is probably bored already with this war.
The part that offended me wa s the very end when he did not encourage us to win, but to take our country back.
That doesn't even make sense in relation to iran
Not sure if this is a step forward or back on his "suckers and losers" comment. One way or the other it shows his utter disdain for the lives of the military he commands.
Donald Trump does not have the ability to empathize with other human beings. He couldn't care less if American troops die unless it somehow lessens his chances to control events or enrich himself.
May I offer a slight correction?
Sad that you feel that way. Folks who have NEVER experienced war battles need - yes - need to learn how to feel for their BROTHERS AND SISTERS in arms instead of trying to blame anyone and everyone for their own shortcomings.
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You seem to have responded to something John never said, unless you're agreeing that Trump needs to learn how to feel for American troops. You are aware that John said Trump doesn't care about them, right, not that he (John) doesn't care about them?
Caring about them includes not choosing to send them to unnecessary wars to die for one's ego.
What makes you think that DJT gives one iota of concern for others?
He is the last person to be asked about the lives of the people under his command or how they feel towards one another. It is my considered opinion that he does not feel for them in the slightest.
Like Grandfather trump and the rest of the family? He literally moved to the States to avoid military service and apparently that is now the family tradition.
People know this but refuse to acknowledge it. trmp and his whole fucking family are just so fucking perfect! Even tho all of them are loser cowards who would have called their mommies the first night of basic
Are you mad Trump talks to Americans like an adult?
You're joking.
Trump cannot emphasize with anyone, including American soldiers and their families. He does try and fake it now and then if that helps you out.
Do you want to him say no dies in a war? To tell Americans not to worry about anything and that every single person will come home safe and sound from a shooting war?
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Of course it is your problem.
About ten years ago, Iran captured American sailors and used them for propaganda videos in defiance of the Geneva convention. Obama's response was to send pallets of cash as part of his craven campaign of appeasement is his desperation to prop up Iran and have a "Deal" with them. That's where we were.
Now ee are less than 24 hours removed from one of the most successful military operations in American history in which pretty much the rulers of Iran were wiped out and you are obsessing over a clause in a statement where the President told the American people that casualties are probably inevitable. That's the sign of a major problem.
Trump is the most corrupt president in our history, by far. He is also the stupidest president that I can recall from my lifetime, or even reading about. And you and people who think like you literally don't care.
You cannot have lastingly good outcomes from this kind of person. It is not possible.
As far as the most successful military mission , I guess that's true if your criteria is bombing a country that doesn't have a functional air force or air defense system. We have known flown 1000 bombing runs over Iran this weekend without a single plane shot down. Which is great , but I don't know if it qualifies as an all time great military mission.
Still preaching that lie?
Iran has been a terrible nemesis for 40 plus years, killing Americans with relative impunity prior to Trump. I don't care how stupid he is. If he removes Iran as a power aligned against us he's accomplished a hell of lot more than people who are ever so smart.
I guess that's true if your criteria is bombing a country that doesn't have a functional air force or air defense system.
Why is that? Oh yeah because we destroyed it. Iran has (or had) what was considered state of the art air defense systems thanks to its Russian and Chinese friends.
We have known flown 1000 bombing runs over Iran this weekend without a single plane shot down. Which is great , but I don't know if it qualifies as an all time great military mission.
Of course it does. That's literally what it makes it all time great mission.
Are you kidding? You think that's a lie?
From CNN:
The Obama administration secretly arranged a plane delivery of $400 million in cash on the same day Iran released four American prisoners and formally implemented the nuclear deal, US officials confirmed Wednesday.
President Barack Obama approved the $400 million transfer, which he had announced in January as part of the Iran nuclear deal. The money was flown into Iran on wooden pallets stacked with Swiss francs, euros and other currencies
And to promptly be replaced with new ones of the same ilk!
His replacement is already dead. Maybe Supreme Leader number 3 of the weekend of will see the wisdom of surrender. If not, we'll probably be dealing with number 4 soon enough.
You're denying that Obama DID NOT give Iran $1.7B in 2016??
From your favorite , ChatGPT:
Well, he 'emphasizes' all sorts of things that shouldn't be, but no doubt you're talking 'empathize' of which Donald Trump seems completely incapable. It's quite clear not only does he not give a shit about our men and women in the armed forces, he thinks of them as 'suckers' and 'losers' for either not being able to get out of service like he did or choosing to serve on their own. And now that scum bag draft dodging dick wad is sending our sons and daughters into another unprovoked war. What a shit show. But anyone with more than half a brain saw this coming. Sadly, it's apparent that there are fewer Americans like that than I wanted to believe so here we are, up shit creek with a Trump brand paddle...
I will never understand how those comments didn't sink him with veterans.
It did with many, but others believed the bullshit rightwing media that kept saying "fake news!", "I didn't hear it in person so it can't be true!" and "Gargle, gargle!"... (that last one is from those rightwing Trump fans that couldn't speak due to the excess Trump ball sweat in their throats).
And in context....
Yes, see comment 2.2.17.
MAGA actually started with Desert Storm vets and their experiences with the VA due to the way they were treated about health issues from oild the burning oil and the PTSD.
Studies are indicating the Alzheimer's is more likely due to long term poor air quality or medium exposure to horrible air quality.
Afghan vets experienced more of the same.
Their own burn pits, a regular Army Base feature possibly poisoned them.
I talked to one career military vet (about 70 years old at the time) and asked him that question prior to the election. He said that he is not convinced Trump said that. Yet another SMH anecdote.
My dad wasn't career, but he is a vet, and he doesn't understand how Trump has any veteran support, either.
He said he remembers during Watergate that he first defended Nixon, but as more and more evidence was made public, he had to recognize that Nixon was, indeed, a crook. He was comparing Trump to Nixon (unfavorably), and said it seems that way fewer people are paying attention to the evidence this time around. They're too attached to their positions to listen.
And as far as the "losers and suckers" comment, yeah, that one wasn't made publicly. But he certainly didn't hold back in public about John McCain, a man who pretty much everybody on both sides of the aisle agree served honorably.
Confirmation bias is a bitch.
How soon should we expect Barron to enlist?
Bone spurs are congenital.
Are you shure?
You made me look it up now you have to read it:
"golf injuries" LOL !!
I thought bone spurs were caused by intense fear of getting hurt and having to be brave.
I thought it was caused by severe laziness
It was their money to start with. We just gave it back to them.
correct
This is the part that makes no sense to me and why I strongly disagree with what Obama did. First, whatever agreement we had concerning military equipment wasn't an agreement made with the Islamic Republic of Iran. Second, every president since the Iranian revolution should have told Iran to stuff it concerning whatever they think they were owed after holding 52 American citizens for 444 days. That we could owe them anything that doesn't create large craters in their country is simply nonsense. It seems to me that Obama was trying to help Iran get the bomb.
Believe there was consensus from multiple other countries that all agreed that the money seized, that was Iran's', would be released if Iran cooperated with the nuclear inspections etc., so as monitoring could keep their nuclear aspirations below weapons grade. I have read that the money approved by all the nations involved, was also used as insurance to be certain some, American I believe hostage(s), would be released as previously agreed upon.
Right. And Chamberlain returned from Munich with a guarantee from Hitler that if we let him have the Sudetenland, he'd halt his ambitions for the rest of Europe. Iran, under its current fanatical leadership, will never not try to build the bomb. I think anyone who thinks otherwise still thinks leaving a tooth under their pillow will result in money in the morning. Iran's fanatical government is a rabid dog and there's no use pretending we can get them to play nice somehow. Won't happen.
So having inspectors there, as opposed to not having inspectors there, is better, cause I think not.
I don't understand your reasoning. Inspectors were monitoring Fordow. They knew Iran was enriching uranium to near 90% enrichment, far higher than the 5% necessary for nuclear power plants. In fact, the Fordow site was only useful in building a bomb as it was too small for production for power purposes. So, what's better about having inspectors? What was the point? Confirming what anyone who wasn't fooling themselves already knew? That Iran always intended to build the bomb? Geez! It's like some people want them to get the bomb.
Convicted felon - not convicted criminal.
Learn the difference.
A felon IS a criminal.
A felon is a criminal who has been convicted of a felony instead of a misdemeanor.
Wanna guess whether a felony is worse than a misdemeanor?
I suspect we are all curious as to what you think the difference is between a felon and a criminal.
All felons are criminals by definition.
Ungodly, inhuman and there you go MAGA.
More war, higher prices, volatile markets, tariffs we pay, attacking blue states and blue cities first with casualties of Americans at home. Casualties of both immigrants and Americans in detention camps here at home, including children.
The crazy lunatic has instigated attacking fishing boats in international waters, attacked South American countries with regime change and invasion, dropping bombs on a country he previously said was "obliterated" of nuclear capability then lies saying they had nuclear capability as an excuse to drop bombs on the "obliterared" country.
Does he have dementia, did he forget he obliterated their nuclear capability? Did American soldiers die for his insanity?
He has cut thousands and thousands of government jobs and departments to fund endless war, cut healthcare and food assistance for more endless war, fed DOGE all your personal info and is bent on invading every Americans privacy on top of all the other damage to America by his insane policies.
HOW IS HE GOING TO JUSTIFY HIS INSANE BALLROOM WHILE AMERICANS ARE DYING IN WAR?!?!?
Hop to it MAGA, offer to enlist as a "warfighter" or offer to build the "Magnificent Ballroom" that will be bigger than the White House.
Recently his approval rating keeps slowly going down in the polls.
Well, if peep holes might have seen something, something WRONG with the LYING POS in our White Power House of shame, a little sooner, we perhaps wouldn't be fighting another BULLSHIT WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST, but, here we are once again...
Yes its definitely yet another case of "deja vu" once again!
Trump was considering casualties long ago. Military leaders warned about Iran launching massive missile attacks at our many nearby bases in the region. Gen Dan Caine was one of those opposed to going forward.
I mentioned all that days ago:
But here is the thing: The really tough decisions are left to the Commander-in-Chief and he made it.
And btw, here is what he actually said about it:
"Its menacing activities directly endanger the United States, our troops, our bases overseas and our allies throughout the world. For 47 years, the Iranian regime has chanted “death to America” and waged an unending campaign of bloodshed and mass murder targeting the United States, our troops and the innocent people in many, many countries," Trump said.
“Iran is the world’s number one state sponsor of terror and just recently killed tens of thousands of its own citizens on the street as they protested,” Trump said. “It has always been the policy of the United States, in particular my administration, that this terrorist regime can never have a nuclear weapon. I will say it again. They can never have a nuclear weapon.”
Trump, who campaigned on a message of keeping the U.S. out of foreign entanglements, gravely suggested that "the lives of courageous American heroes may be lost, and we may have casualties.”
"That often happens in war. But we are doing this not for now, we are doing this for the future and it is a noble mission," Trump continued.
Trump starkly warns of potential US casualties in 'massive ongoing operation' to stop Iranian regime - ABC News
System of a Down - BYOB
He's fine with sending my son to war but will he send his own?
Gee, FDR had 16 million Americans serving during WWII.
Would you have been asking that question back then?
People no doubt did. But comparing the threat imposed by Hitler, et. al. during WWII to Iran is ridiculous.
FDR was very hesitant to enter the war even with the severity of the threat. Trump, the self-claimed no-war president, does whatever he thinks will help or please him.
WWII was justified. This isn't
Pretty sure she was talking about Trump.
I was and that was obvious. But I really don't care what Vic says. His words are worthless to me as is he
People didn't have to ask that question of FDR because his sons did go to war. And they weren't asked, begged, they volunteered and went. Granted, he checked in, got constant reports on his boys everyday, but they were there. Barron is of age...
The thing about Trump, Kirk, and others like them, they are always willing to sacrifice others for their good, but never sacrifice their own. Like Kirk stated (and Trump, WCN believes) "...If being able to continue the right to bear arms means some kids get killed in school shootings, well, some sacrifices have to be made...".
And then he'll present a purple heart to someone who makes it back and state he never got one, can I see it, then keep it. I mean, we all know how he REALLY likes medals for things he didn't deserve, earn, or involved with.
that was a declared war, after FDR asked for it from a joint session of congess, when pearl harbor was attacked, while negotiations had been ongoing with those that attacked us ...
Pete Hegseth spoke a little while ago, His message could be summarized as KILL KILL KILL.
Does he have military age children?
You bet!
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interesting. This seems to happen a lot. Vic bitches...charger does his bidding
…seems the fascination with overpopulation has led to ‘filtering’ down challenging commentary hereabouts…
Who is that?
Stock photo of a woman Marine.
Why? Because.
Lies. Pete Hegseths oldest child is a boy named Gunner who is 15 years old
Vic seems to be hallucinating on that topic.
Trump does...
Can you imagine if one of us tried to pass that off as one of Biden's kids?
Shameful. It should be flagged for being an outright lie
SHAME!!!!!!!!!!
Or, Stolen Valor...
he does but he's not going anywhere except into the family business of graft, lies, and corruption
Result of being in a chugging contest with Patel, the demented mina bird!
In between his basically pointless comments about the war with Iran and the awarding of the Congressional Medal Of Honor to three recipients from Vietnam and WWII, Trump talked about the ballroom, that he loved the color gold, and how construction hammering reminds him of money.
Trump , at what is a formal if not solemn occasion .
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I hope you weren’t expecting solemn behavior from a person who has no ability to experience empathy. That’s like asking a mentally retarded individual to do calculus.
Trump would try to use his toes.
Gen Ripper has solved it all! They can't be called back. God bless us all!
Except he can't see them beyond his stomach.
I have seen death in war.
I do not speak lightly of it.
President Bonespurs has never been in the military, much less in war. The dead are just "losers" to him.
Worse, they are propaganda props.