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Right wing religious leaders routinely venture into political waters.

  
By:  John Russell  •  7 months ago  •  25 comments


 Right wing religious leaders routinely venture into political waters.
"founded the Christian Coalition, which became a major force in Republican politics."

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MAGAs, particularly MAGA politicians have been on record saying the Pope should stay the heck out of politics. Stay in his own lane, which would be ministering to his "flock". There are most likely some regular people who agree. Out of context it doesnt sound unreasonable to at least allow for the possibility that religion and politics are two different lanes. 

Does anyone see the beam in your eye problem with such thinking?   Especially in the United States and specifically as it pertains to Trump's political base?  Right wing religious leaders routinely venture into political waters. Over the years many of Trumps most outspoken defenders have invoked religious arguments to promote him. His "spiritual" adviser, an ordained evangelical minister, runs an office out of the White House. His Secretary of War invokes God's blessing for the business of killing people. 

I asked Bing Co-pilot for a list of conservative preachers who have gotten involved in political issues -

1. Jerry Falwell Sr.

  • Founder of the Moral Majority in 1979.

  • Mobilized millions of evangelical voters around issues like abortion, school prayer, and opposition to the Equal Rights Amendment.

  • Widely credited with helping Ronald Reagan build a powerful religious conservative coalition.

2. Pat Robertson

  • Televangelist and founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN).

  • Ran for president in 1988, finishing second in the Iowa caucuses.

  • Later founded the Christian Coalition, which became a major force in Republican politics.

3. James Dobson

  • Founder of Focus on the Family.

  • Influential in shaping conservative positions on family policy, LGBTQ issues, and education.

  • Frequently endorsed candidates and advised Republican administrations.

4. Franklin Graham

  • Son of Billy Graham and head of Samaritan’s Purse.

  • Known for outspoken political commentary on elections, Supreme Court decisions, and cultural issues.

  • Has been a prominent supporter of Republican candidates in recent years.

5. Ralph Reed

  • Former head of the Christian Coalition.

  • Founder of the Faith and Freedom Coalition, which organizes conservative Christian voter turnout.

  • Plays a major role in election mobilization efforts.

6. Paula White‑Cain

  • Pentecostal pastor and spiritual adviser to Donald Trump.

  • Led faith‑based outreach efforts and participated in political events and rallies.

  • Known for framing political outcomes in religious terms.

7. Tony Perkins

  • President of the Family Research Council.

  • Frequently involved in policy advocacy on religious liberty, abortion, and LGBTQ issues.

  • Advises conservative lawmakers and participates in political strategy efforts.

8. Robert Jeffress

  • Pastor of First Baptist Dallas.

  • Known for political sermons and public commentary on elections and national policy debates.

  • Frequently appears in media to discuss political issues from an evangelical perspective.

9. Lance Wallnau

  • Charismatic Christian speaker associated with the New Apostolic Reformation.

  • Known for describing political leaders in prophetic terms.

  • Active in political mobilization among charismatic and Pentecostal communities.

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If you have any familiarity with such topics on You Tube you know there are countless lesser known right wing religious figures who meddle in politics constantly.

And yet MAGAs and Republican lawmakers and public figures have the gall to tell the Pope to stay out of politics, including Donald J. (for Jesus) Trump and JD Vance, someone who converted to Catholicism recently and now feels qualified to write a book about the faith. 

Pope Leo is as American as any of the army of right wing religious figures who wade into political matters. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    7 months ago

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Trout Giggles
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1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1    7 months ago

he's sleeping again

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.2  MrFrost  replied to  JohnRussell @1    7 months ago

Let's not forget him bob duggar

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  MrFrost @1.2    7 months ago

Jim Bob Duggar 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  author  JohnRussell    7 months ago
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A recent Holy Week prayer gathering at the White House has sparked strong reactions among Catholics after remarks made during the event appeared to draw comparisons between President Donald Trump and Jesus Christ.

According to LifeSiteNews,   the event, described as an Easter lunch and prayer vigil, brought together around 100 religious leaders in the East Room to reflect on the significance of Holy Week . During the gathering, President Trump spoke at length on various topics and read a passage recounting Christ’s entrance into Jerusalem. At one point, he interjected with a comment about himself, saying, “they call me King now, do you believe it?”

The moment drew further attention when televangelist Paula White addressed the president in prayer, referencing Christ’s suffering and linking it to Trump’s own experiences. She stated, “no one has paid the price like you have paid the price… It’s a familiar pattern that our Lord and Savior showed us, but it didn’t end there for Him, and it didn’t end there for you.” She continued, “because of His resurrection, you rose up. Because He was victorious, you were victorious.”

Also present was Bishop Robert Barron, who later offered a prayer affirming Christ as “the ‘yes’ to all the promises made to Israel” and speaking of the Christian mission to proclaim His kingship to the world . However, criticism emerged over his participation and perceived silence during earlier remarks.

LifeSiteNews reports that some Catholic commentators argued that the bishop’s presence at the event could be interpreted as tacit approval. One critic stated that when a bishop does not object in such moments, “his silence communicates consent.”

The event also included remarks from Franklin Graham, who invoked biblical imagery and prayed for the president’s leadership in the context of international tensions, particularly involving Iran.

Additional criticism centered on Paula White’s theological statements and past remarks. Catholic author Taylor Marshall described her comments at the event succinctly, stating, “Paula White speaks blasphemy” . Public commentator Candace Owens also expressed concern, noting she was “deeply concerned about Bishop Barron” due to his association with the gathering.

The controversy reflects broader concerns among some Catholics about the relationship between faith and political power. As one pastor cited in the report observed, Scripture warns of voices that tell leaders “what they want to hear,” describing such moments as “court religion – religious voices aligning with power to secure it for themselves.”

For many of the faithful, the incident raises important questions about the integrity of Christian witness—especially during Holy Week, a time centered on the humility, suffering, and kingship of Christ alone.

Bishop Barron Draws Criticism Following Event Where Trump Was Compared to Jesus Christ – Catholic Online News

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2    7 months ago
The moment drew further attention when televangelist Paula White addressed the president in prayer, referencing Christ’s suffering and linking it to Trump’s own experiences. She stated, “no one has paid the price like you have paid the price… It’s a familiar pattern that our Lord and Savior showed us, but it didn’t end there for Him, and it didn’t end there for you.” She continued, “because of His resurrection, you rose up. Because He was victorious, you were victorious.”

Was trmp scourged with a whip? Did someone push a crown of thorns down on his head. was he nailed to a cross and left to die????? well??? was he?????????

I think I made my point. White is a blasphemous twat waffle

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1    7 months ago
Was trmp scourged with a whip? Did someone push a crown of thorns down on his head. was he nailed to a cross and left to die????? well??? was he?????????

No, but people are persecuting him by talking about the fact that he cheated on all three of his wives, is a convicted felon, was found liable for sexual assault and defamation, said he wanted to date his daughter and has been caught in thousands of lies, and that's before even bringing up his incitement of a riot and attempted insurrection on his behalf. I mean, he is just being so persecuted by people remembering and talking about things he did! It's exactly like how people treated Jesus... /s

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.1    7 months ago

Awww....I guess we should stop telling the truth about him, eh?

 
 
 
Thomas
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3  Thomas    7 months ago
Paula White addressed the president in prayer, referencing Christ’s suffering and linking it to Trump’s own experiences. She stated, “no one has paid the price like you have paid the price… It’s a familiar pattern that our Lord and Savior showed us, but it didn’t end there for Him, and it didn’t end there for you.” She continued, “because of His resurrection, you rose up. Because He was victorious, you were victorious.”

What complete and total bullshit. I thought of a joke a little while ago having to do with priests, choirboys and the line from the song that goes "If you can't be, with the one you love..."

 
 
 
evilone
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3.1  evilone  replied to  Thomas @3    7 months ago

Perhaps if we nail Trump to a cross until he expires and inter him in his ballroom we can see if he rises from the dead like the vampire he often comes across as.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  author  JohnRussell    7 months ago

Trump Meets His Match in Pope Leo; As Bishop Sheen said to Milton Berle, the vicar of Rome has better writers and a better sponsor.

by Peggy Noonan

.....If you really believe   in   Christ, as a Christian preacher should, you wouldn't compare him to any leader of this world. That wasn't an act of misdirected reverence but a refusal of reverence.

What is going on with this administration and its use and abuse of Christianity? Shouldn't the great churches of America be thinking about this, and at this point talking about it publicly, thoughtfully?

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, earlier   in   the Iran war, stood   in   the Pentagon and issued a call for a wartime prayer: "Every day, on bended knee, with your family,   in   your schools,   in   your churches," the American people should pray " in   the name of Jesus Christ."

On Thursday, he compared mainstream media reporters to the enemies of Christ—"the Pharisees" who "held counsel against him . . . to destroy him." The press, he said, is "just like these Pharisees." He clarified he meant "the legacy,   Trump -hating press."

American presidents during war have always called on God for help and guidance, deliberately not the Lord of one faith, but of all. And none have ever used the story of Christ to undermine a president's critics.

I am becoming shocked by what I'm seeing here, and as a registered pundit my response to shock tends toward counter-rudeness.

A reader sent a note this week saying he'd been following the president's attack on the   pope   and   his   follow-up posting of the artificial-intelligence image depicting him as Christ healing the sick, and it sent him to the Sermon on the Mount. Consider what Jesus said, the reader urged, and the things   Trump   says. I did.

Christ: "Blessed are you who are poor."

Mr.   Trump : "Part of the beauty of me is that I'm very rich." "My whole life I've been greedy, greedy, greedy. I've grabbed all the money I could get."

Christ: "Blessed are the meek."

Mr.   Trump : "It has been stated by many that the first month of our presidency . . . is the most successful   in   the history of our nation." "You know who No. 2 is? George Washington."

Christ: "Blessed are the merciful."

Mr.   Trump : "I am your retribution." "Why are we having all these people from s— hole countries come here?"

Christ: "Blessed are the peacemakers."

Mr.   Trump : "A whole civilization will die tonight." "He died like a dog." "He died after running into a dead-end tunnel whimpering and crying and screaming."

Christ: "Love your enemies: do good to them that hate you."

Mr.   Trump : "I love getting even with people." "I hate my opponent, and I don't want the best for them, I'm sorry."

Some common subject matter, but rather different approaches! So different that Mr.   Trump 's statements seem the photographic negative of the Sermon on the Mount.

I used the word hick last week, not one people use much anymore but one that should be redefined and reoriented, because it's a growing public style. Old meaning of hick: hayseed, rube, ill-educated person. But modern hickdom doesn't have anything to do with geography, class, profession, circumstances of birth. It has to do with character and disposition. You can be a Harvard hick, a Palm Beach hick.

What all hicks have   in   common is that they lack respect. They lack a shown courtesy toward people or things that deserve a measure of homage. They don't have the bandwidth to know what should be respected   in   the world, or what and who helps it turn. They aren't skeptical but cynical. They think they're wised-up, but they lack something essential, a broad and sympathetic imagination. And they are all over Washington.

A hick picks a fight with a   pope .
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @4    7 months ago

I generally don;t agree with Noonan, but on this she is absolutely right

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  author  JohnRussell    7 months ago

I guess this is yet another topic I bring up here that the "conservatives" want nothing to do with.  I must be good.  

 
 
 
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5.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5    7 months ago

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Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1    7 months ago
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LOL. You see the whining and stupidity of conservative hypocrisy being pointed out and only have enough bravery to try and deflect instead of addressing the obvious concise point of the seed. Not like any rational minds expected anything different.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1    7 months ago

I wish you were capable of discussing or debating what is in the seeded article.

 
 
 
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5.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1    7 months ago

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Trout Giggles
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5.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @5    7 months ago

That surprises me because the pseudo Christians here love to argue that trmp is a god and we're the evil ones because we don't see it

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2    7 months ago

They cant claim the pope should not be involved in politics when right wing "pastors" are involved in politics on a daily basis. 

That is why they avoided this seed. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    7 months ago
They cant claim the pope should not be involved in politics when right wing "pastors" are involved in politics on a daily basis. 

They're not only hypocritical about their views on religious leaders speaking out on politics.

A 2024 poll showed 61% of Republicans disapprove of celebrities speaking on politics, often citing "information overload" or feeling "lectured" . Many conservatives believe entertainers should "stick to performing" and avoid alienating audience members, arguing that celebrities are often out of touch with average Americans' realities.

Most Republicans don't want to hear celebrities' political opinions: Poll | Fox News

But whenever these folk speak...

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...they change their tunes quicker than a prairie fire with a tailwind.

 
 
 
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5.2.3  Gsquared  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.2    7 months ago

Whenever right wingers complain about celebrities speaking on politics, just think:

                original

Or, Bedtime for Bonzo

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freepress
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6  freepress    7 months ago

Absolutely! True, factual and correct on all points.

Jerry Falwell, Franklin Graham, Franklin Graham Jr., the crazy evangelical attached to Pete Hegseth, and the spiritual grifter that is Trump's "advisor". 

Evangelicals have invaded our government, our politics and have been attacking our foundational freedoms with the passage of harsh policies that hurt everyone. 

They are at the point where they are abandoning the Constitution, twisting the Bible into pretzel logic loops, and attacking the freedom of all Americans just to continue a culture war against the " libs".

Laughable to say the pope cannot advocate for peace because advocating for peace is against Trump's war. 

 
 

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