Donald J. Trump is an upstanding, patriotic President whose personal character is an inspiration for us all and whose wise leadership represents the best of United States.
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Prove Me Wrong!
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You know the only proof that you are wrong is going to be insults and unfounded emotion driven opinion.
That's is my expectation. I'm trying to show people how Trump gets away with all the shit he does. People will fight each other, they'll post stupid memes, they'll put on inflatable frog costumes and harass their won neighbors.
Proving me wrong should be easier than easy. But I'm betting few will even try.
That might say something about you but it doesn't prove anything, one way or other, about Donald J. Trump. If you can't think for yourself then Donald J. Trump is the man for you.
Like i have to tell another poster John, your opinion is not proof, it's only opinion, and the opinion of others who reinforce your confirmation bias isn't proof either.
Typical underplaying. Of course other people lie. That does not excuse a pathological liar like Trump. Your 'logic' is akin to equating a kid who shoplifts a candy bar to a grand larcenist because they both stole something. It is ridiculous.
John - you have "proven" nothing - all you have to throw out is your opinion - many times - which are nothing more than your opinion - and we all know that opinions are not facts.
Whether you like it or not, all of us on NT are allowed - nay - encouraged - to voice their "opinions", per the CoC. You voice yours constantly/consistently.
But, IMHO, you are a voice of opinion - your opinion.
The author of the seed has attempted, and, again, IMHO, has succeeded in pointing out how a topic can be destroyed purely by the personal prejudices/bias of a responder.
The author asked for you/us to "prove" that he is wrong - thus far, there has been no proof provided.
To intelligent people the magnitude of the lie is what is important, does trump saying democrats stole an election effect everyone's lives more or less than telling them the bif lie that they can keep their doctor or their ACA will lower their costs, which it didn't for anyone but the worthless takers. I know how intelligent people would say, quality over quantity.
You made yourself the subject with both yor headline and your first comment
How? How does commenting about me prove anything about Donald J. Trump? You hate me but don't give a shit about Donald J. Trump?
Wasting your time attacking me does not prove me wrong. In military terms you've demonstrated that you cannot focus on task and stay on mission. You are demonstrating how Donald Trump gets away with all his shit.
To intelligent people the magnitude of the lie is what is important, ...
Yes, that is how intelligent people operate. They do not care that Trump lies about being a great golfer. But they do care about lies such as: 'the East Wing will not be touched'.
The entire East Wing of the White House will be demolished “within days,” according to two Trump administration officials. The demolition is a significant expansion of the ballroom construction project from what President Donald Trump said this summer.
“ It won’t interfere with the current building, ” Trump said on July 31. “ It’ll be near it, but not touching it, and pays total respect to the existing building, which I’m the biggest fan of. ”
They also care about lies such as 'I will bring down prices ... it will happen quickly':
“ Starting the day I take the oath of office, I will rapidly drive prices down and we will make America affordable again. We’re going to make it affordable again. ”
You know, important stuff.
So are you trying to imply that Trump does not lie about important stuff? Really?
... does trump saying democrats stole an election effect everyone's lives more or less than telling them the bif lie that they can keep their doctor or their ACA will lower their costs, which it didn't for anyone but the worthless takers. I know how intelligent people would say, quality over quantity.
Yeah George, Trump's continued lies about the 2020 election being stolen is and was hugely divisive and incited a group of his supporters to break and enter the Capitol to disrupt a session of Congress.
Your attempt to dismiss Trump's wrongdoing is, yet again, pathetic.
Most non TDS sufferers don't care about the east wing getting demolished, I know zero people talking about it in everyday life. they care about being able to afford food and get healthcare and quality education, it's only a lie of magnitude to partisans and TDS afflicted.
No TDS is caring about bullshit while ignoring everything else, the east wing has zero impact on my life, trumps stupid posts have zero impact on my life other than posts here to laugh at, peoples ignorant comments about traitorous, criminal., word of the day BS have zero impact on my life, My life isn't consumed with waiting to be offend by trump which is the definition of TDS.
To intelligent people the magnitude of the lie is what is important, does trump saying democrats stole an election effect everyone's lives more or less than telling them the bif lie that they can keep their doctor or their ACA will lower their costs, which it didn't for anyone but the worthless takers. I know how intelligent people would say, quality over quantity.
That's a fair question. But it falls into the trap of believing that two lies can result in the truth.
Trump lying about the election is a separate issue from the lies about ACA. Neither lie is better or worse than the other. They're both reprehensible lies. But by turning it into a competition, one or both of the liars will be allowed to skate. We're stuck trying to defend our liars instead of fixing the damned problems.
... TDS is caring about bullshit while ignoring everything else ...
TDS, if there were such a thing, would accurately label blind support for Trump no matter what he does.
... the east wing has zero impact on my life ...
Oh, what happens to the nation and our history does not matter unless you personally are affected? Interesting.
... trumps stupid posts have zero impact on my life ...
Again with the narcissistic criterion. The interesting pattern continues.
My life isn't consumed with waiting to be offend by trump which is the definition of TDS.
Your posts show that you spend a substantial amount of time trying (pitifully) to defend Trump. You find it worthwhile to make pathetically lame defenses of Trump? Defenses that are easily rebutted (hell, the 'defenses' reflects an alternate reality) with no counter-rebuttal from you?
Most non TDS sufferers don't care about the east wing getting demolished, I know zero people talking about it in everyday life. they care about being able to afford food and get healthcare and quality education, it's only a lie of magnitude to partisans and TDS afflicted.
Isn't that because the meaning of America has been cheapened. What if Trump replaced the USS Arizona memorial with a cocktail lounge to host Japanese dignitaries? The Liberty Bell is just a piece of cracked scrap metal. What if Trump replaced that with his golden ding dong.
But it falls into the trap of believing that two lies can result in the truth.
Bullshit, 2 lies only lead to lies, but all lies aren't created equal, a loser claiming to have won is inconsequential to the vast majority of the country, but screwing the entire country over based on a lie is far worse.
Lets start with the Biggest lie of all, Who here is fucking stupid enough to believe the ACA was healthcare reform?
One of the main differences would be if he rebuilt the Arizona memorial, but i understand what you are saying, it would be awful if trump went around tearing down the statues of people and historical monuments because he didn't like them.....right?
One of the main differences would be if he rebuilt the Arizona memorial, but i understand what you are saying, it would be awful if trump went around tearing down the statues of people and historical monuments because he didn't like them.....right?
Yuppers. The mass stupidity to pull down statues (Confederate and otherwise) was just as stupide as demolishing the East Wing of the White House.
American values, traditions, history, and heritage (warts and all) belong to all of us. Tearing that down erases America. We lose our American identity and a reason to aspire to something better. Tearing down the good and bad that makes us American means America becomes nothing more than a piece of land. And there's nothing exceptional in that.
You are correct, i will remove it if you want, it does indicate that rational people believe that the democrat policies have devolved to the point of mental illness.
You are correct, i will remove it if you want, it does indicate that rational people believe that the democrat policies have devolved to the point of mental illness.
No, leave it. One of the things this exercise is supposed to show is that people cannot think for themselves.
The point of the exercise is to show that people will start blaming and fighting each other and divert attention away from the politician. The exercise is a rather obvious open door to attack Trump. But I'm betting that won't happen. I am expecting people will attack me, attack each other, and let Trump skate.
Nerm - there is entirely too much TDS for that exercise to work. The "excuses/reasons" will and are failing so that all we get now is "I think" and not "I know".
Nerm - there is entirely too much TDS for that exercise to work. The "excuses/reasons" will and are failing so that all we get now is "I think" and not "I know".
The point is the statement about Donald Trump is false. Proving me wrong should be the easiest thing possible. But so far I have seen only one comment that has tried to prove me wrong.
Even the attempt to support Trump doesn't provide anything that affirms the statement so they aren't proving anything, either.
'tried'?What part of the comment do you find incorrect?
I've addressed that. Besides if I simply state you proved me wrong then you're God and there's no need for further discussion. Let's giver others a chance.
Here is one of my favorites from yesterday, the left was outraged because trump told our troops that their rewards and promotions would be based on Merit and merit only, which means you can't use grievances to get votes, if you have a Vagina and are most qualified you will get the promotion, but you will not get it because you have a vagina, or more melatonin than the next candidate.
Those of us who actually served KNOW that promotions are based on merit! I earned my prmotions not because I have a vagina but because I earned it! I'm getting damn sick and tired of your useless opinions that aren't based on any kind of fact
Donald J. Trump is an upstanding, patriotic President ...
Trump is the only PotUS in our history who has attempted to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying and incitement. As PotUS he unilaterally demolished the East Wing because he, personally, wants a grand ballroom.
... whose personal character is an inspiration for us all ...
Trump is a pathological liar and lifelong con man whose modus operandi is "cheat to win". He shows all the traits of a psychopath.
... and whose wise leadership represents the best of United States.
Trump's first major act of office was to troll our trade partners, threaten them with absurd tariffs, impose absurd tariffs, and initiate a trade war. He was elected, mostly, to lower prices and the first thing he did was initiate a process that will result in increased consumer prices.
Prove Me Wrong!
There are many more examples, but if these are insufficient, then it is pointless to bother with the rest.
Trump is the only PotUS in our history who has attempted to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying and incitement.
Well, I don't know that Trump tried to steal the election. IMO Trump was only trying to be the biggest asshole in the Galaxy. The Constitutional limit meant Trump's term ended Jan. 20th no matter what. If the election remained unresolved then the chain of succession would have been triggered. Trump could not have remained in office. The state results had already been certified so challenging the legitimacy of the election was nothing more than a moronic stunt to be an asshole; there's no way it could have been successful.
As PotUS he unilaterally demolished the East Wing because he, personally, wants a grand ballroom.
Pretty easy to verify that statement. Just look at the crater.
Trump is a pathological liar and lifelong con man whose modus operandi is "cheat to win". He shows all the traits of a psychopath.
Well I don't know that Trump's lying is pathological. Trump's lying could be the result of over indulgent parenting. Trump's lying could be a learned behavior. The only thing we can say for certain is that Trump often lies when a lie isn't needed. Trump's habitual lying is part of his personal brand. Trump lies can't be defended so people seem to just live with them.
Trump's first major act of office was to troll our trade partners, threaten them with absurd tariffs, impose absurd tariffs, and initiate a trade war. He was elected, mostly, to lower prices and the first thing he did was initiate a process that will result in increased consumer prices.
Trump had to prove he was the biggest asshole in the Galaxy. Trump was correct that countries aren't partnering with the US for our benefit. Unfavorable trade agreements and complacency over trade barriers needed to be corrected. Tariffs are a legitimate policy remedy to correct trade barriers and to revitalize our own industrial economy. But tariffs alone are just a half measure that delivers half-assed results.
Believing that tax cuts will motivate multinational corporations to invest in the US is a TEA Party wet dream. Hasn't worked before. Won't work now. And repeating the lie won't change the result.
Then you will not be convinced of anything.No point even trying after that.
Don't try to convince me that Trump tried to steal something that cannot be stolen. Claiming that Trump tried to steal the election gives Trump much, much more credit than he has earned. That claim only proves we're all dumber than Trump.
Why do you want to give Trump the benefit of the doubt? He doesnt deserve that. In fact it is ridiculous. Thats whats wrong with the world right now - too many people want to sound ridiculous and then demand that everyone else agree to it.
Trump has three years to go, and who is going to beat out Vance? It's doubtful the Libs will gain anything during the midterms thanks to Schumer's shutdown
Trump was a known quantity and still got reelected because the electorate realized the Dems are so weak and corrupt.
Claiming I am a liverwurst on pumpernickel sandwich won't prove me wrong. You'll need to do better than that to Prove Me Wrong!
You know the only proof that you are wrong is going to be insults and unfounded emotion driven opinion.
That's is my expectation. I'm trying to show people how Trump gets away with all the shit he does. People will fight each other, they'll post stupid memes, they'll put on inflatable frog costumes and harass their won neighbors.
Proving me wrong should be easier than easy. But I'm betting few will even try.
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That might say something about you but it doesn't prove anything, one way or other, about Donald J. Trump. If you can't think for yourself then Donald J. Trump is the man for you.
I've proven enough about Donald J Trump to last a lifetime. You are late to the cause.
Like i have to tell another poster John, your opinion is not proof, it's only opinion, and the opinion of others who reinforce your confirmation bias isn't proof either.
It doesnt take any exceptional ability to see that Donald Trump is a malevolent buffoon.
And, see, you've already lost the argument. I'm not the subject and you have allowed Trump to skate.
The headline statement stands unchallenged. You have not proven me wrong. That's how Trump wins.
I dont think letting Trump skate would be something I could be intelligently accused of.
You have demonstrated why No Kings isn't going to be effective. You've already lost.
Nothing will be effective when we have half a country that enjoys being lied to.
Well, Trump never lies so it must be the other side you're talking about. Prove me wrong.
But we hope they will come to their senses, but when they believe conspiracy theory shit like this is possible it doesn't create much hope for us.
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Is that supposed to prove something about me? Donald J. Trump has lied to you, me, and everyone else. And Trump's lies are my fault?
Donald J. Trump is a liar. That's a fact. You can't defend it so you'll just have to live with it. And it's not my fault.
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You made yourself the subject with both yor headline and your first comment
Typical underplaying. Of course other people lie. That does not excuse a pathological liar like Trump. Your 'logic' is akin to equating a kid who shoplifts a candy bar to a grand larcenist because they both stole something. It is ridiculous.
That is all they have.
John - you have "proven" nothing - all you have to throw out is your opinion - many times - which are nothing more than your opinion - and we all know that opinions are not facts.
stop trolling for gods sake
What - ?
Whether you like it or not, all of us on NT are allowed - nay - encouraged - to voice their "opinions", per the CoC. You voice yours constantly/consistently.
But, IMHO, you are a voice of opinion - your opinion.
The author of the seed has attempted, and, again, IMHO, has succeeded in pointing out how a topic can be destroyed purely by the personal prejudices/bias of a responder.
The author asked for you/us to "prove" that he is wrong - thus far, there has been no proof provided.
To intelligent people the magnitude of the lie is what is important, does trump saying democrats stole an election effect everyone's lives more or less than telling them the bif lie that they can keep their doctor or their ACA will lower their costs, which it didn't for anyone but the worthless takers. I know how intelligent people would say, quality over quantity.
Existing tickets some receive say otherwise. Many have been censored just so echo chambers and run.
How? How does commenting about me prove anything about Donald J. Trump? You hate me but don't give a shit about Donald J. Trump?
Wasting your time attacking me does not prove me wrong. In military terms you've demonstrated that you cannot focus on task and stay on mission. You are demonstrating how Donald Trump gets away with all his shit.
Yes, that is how intelligent people operate. They do not care that Trump lies about being a great golfer. But they do care about lies such as: 'the East Wing will not be touched'.
They also care about lies such as 'I will bring down prices ... it will happen quickly':
You know, important stuff.
So are you trying to imply that Trump does not lie about important stuff? Really?
Yeah George, Trump's continued lies about the 2020 election being stolen is and was hugely divisive and incited a group of his supporters to break and enter the Capitol to disrupt a session of Congress.
Your attempt to dismiss Trump's wrongdoing is, yet again, pathetic.
I can't deal with you. You're not making any kind of sense at all
Have a nice day
Most non TDS sufferers don't care about the east wing getting demolished, I know zero people talking about it in everyday life. they care about being able to afford food and get healthcare and quality education, it's only a lie of magnitude to partisans and TDS afflicted.
You do not care about the East Wing being demolished. Nothing to see here, right? No big deal. If Trump did it, it is okay with you.
That, George, is TDS.
Do you recognize that Trump is doing the opposite in this regard?
No TDS is caring about bullshit while ignoring everything else, the east wing has zero impact on my life, trumps stupid posts have zero impact on my life other than posts here to laugh at, peoples ignorant comments about traitorous, criminal., word of the day BS have zero impact on my life, My life isn't consumed with waiting to be offend by trump which is the definition of TDS.
That's a fair question. But it falls into the trap of believing that two lies can result in the truth.
Trump lying about the election is a separate issue from the lies about ACA. Neither lie is better or worse than the other. They're both reprehensible lies. But by turning it into a competition, one or both of the liars will be allowed to skate. We're stuck trying to defend our liars instead of fixing the damned problems.
Like all MAGAs you dont even make any sense.
1st, did Donald Trump try and steal the 2020 election ?
TDS, if there were such a thing, would accurately label blind support for Trump no matter what he does.
Oh, what happens to the nation and our history does not matter unless you personally are affected? Interesting.
Again with the narcissistic criterion. The interesting pattern continues.
Your posts show that you spend a substantial amount of time trying (pitifully) to defend Trump. You find it worthwhile to make pathetically lame defenses of Trump? Defenses that are easily rebutted (hell, the 'defenses' reflects an alternate reality) with no counter-rebuttal from you?
Isn't that because the meaning of America has been cheapened. What if Trump replaced the USS Arizona memorial with a cocktail lounge to host Japanese dignitaries? The Liberty Bell is just a piece of cracked scrap metal. What if Trump replaced that with his golden ding dong.
Trump has turned TEA Party and I object.
Bullshit, 2 lies only lead to lies, but all lies aren't created equal, a loser claiming to have won is inconsequential to the vast majority of the country, but screwing the entire country over based on a lie is far worse.
Lets start with the Biggest lie of all, Who here is fucking stupid enough to believe the ACA was healthcare reform?
One of the main differences would be if he rebuilt the Arizona memorial, but i understand what you are saying, it would be awful if trump went around tearing down the statues of people and historical monuments because he didn't like them.....right?
Yuppers. The mass stupidity to pull down statues (Confederate and otherwise) was just as stupide as demolishing the East Wing of the White House.
American values, traditions, history, and heritage (warts and all) belong to all of us. Tearing that down erases America. We lose our American identity and a reason to aspire to something better. Tearing down the good and bad that makes us American means America becomes nothing more than a piece of land. And there's nothing exceptional in that.
That doesn't prove anything.
You are correct, i will remove it if you want, it does indicate that rational people believe that the democrat policies have devolved to the point of mental illness.
No, leave it. One of the things this exercise is supposed to show is that people cannot think for themselves.
The point of the exercise is to show that people will start blaming and fighting each other and divert attention away from the politician. The exercise is a rather obvious open door to attack Trump. But I'm betting that won't happen. I am expecting people will attack me, attack each other, and let Trump skate.
Nerm - there is entirely too much TDS for that exercise to work. The "excuses/reasons" will and are failing so that all we get now is "I think" and not "I know".
The point is the statement about Donald Trump is false. Proving me wrong should be the easiest thing possible. But so far I have seen only one comment that has tried to prove me wrong.
Even the attempt to support Trump doesn't provide anything that affirms the statement so they aren't proving anything, either.
'tried'?
What part of the comment do you find incorrect?
I've addressed that. Besides if I simply state you proved me wrong then you're God and there's no need for further discussion. Let's giver others a chance.
Here is one of my favorites from yesterday, the left was outraged because trump told our troops that their rewards and promotions would be based on Merit and merit only, which means you can't use grievances to get votes, if you have a Vagina and are most qualified you will get the promotion, but you will not get it because you have a vagina, or more melatonin than the next candidate.
Jesus christ, George!
Those of us who actually served KNOW that promotions are based on merit! I earned my prmotions not because I have a vagina but because I earned it! I'm getting damn sick and tired of your useless opinions that aren't based on any kind of fact
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Trump is the only PotUS in our history who has attempted to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying and incitement. As PotUS he unilaterally demolished the East Wing because he, personally, wants a grand ballroom.
Trump is a pathological liar and lifelong con man whose modus operandi is "cheat to win". He shows all the traits of a psychopath.
Trump's first major act of office was to troll our trade partners, threaten them with absurd tariffs, impose absurd tariffs, and initiate a trade war. He was elected, mostly, to lower prices and the first thing he did was initiate a process that will result in increased consumer prices.
There are many more examples, but if these are insufficient, then it is pointless to bother with the rest.
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Well, I don't know that Trump tried to steal the election. IMO Trump was only trying to be the biggest asshole in the Galaxy. The Constitutional limit meant Trump's term ended Jan. 20th no matter what. If the election remained unresolved then the chain of succession would have been triggered. Trump could not have remained in office. The state results had already been certified so challenging the legitimacy of the election was nothing more than a moronic stunt to be an asshole; there's no way it could have been successful.
Pretty easy to verify that statement. Just look at the crater.
Well I don't know that Trump's lying is pathological. Trump's lying could be the result of over indulgent parenting. Trump's lying could be a learned behavior. The only thing we can say for certain is that Trump often lies when a lie isn't needed. Trump's habitual lying is part of his personal brand. Trump lies can't be defended so people seem to just live with them.
Trump had to prove he was the biggest asshole in the Galaxy. Trump was correct that countries aren't partnering with the US for our benefit. Unfavorable trade agreements and complacency over trade barriers needed to be corrected. Tariffs are a legitimate policy remedy to correct trade barriers and to revitalize our own industrial economy. But tariffs alone are just a half measure that delivers half-assed results.
Believing that tax cuts will motivate multinational corporations to invest in the US is a TEA Party wet dream. Hasn't worked before. Won't work now. And repeating the lie won't change the result.
Then you will not be convinced of anything.
No point even trying after that.
Donald Trump approved of a plan which would have Pence unilaterally declaring Trump won the election. He TRIED to steal the election.
Right wingers claim he deserves the benefit of the doubt because the plan didnt work. It is shameful.
Don't try to convince me that Trump tried to steal something that cannot be stolen. Claiming that Trump tried to steal the election gives Trump much, much more credit than he has earned. That claim only proves we're all dumber than Trump.
It's not Star Wars. It doesn't work that way.
Apparently I have more faith in America and the integrity of Americans than those claiming Trump could have stolen the election.
Why do you want to give Trump the benefit of the doubt? He doesnt deserve that. In fact it is ridiculous. Thats whats wrong with the world right now - too many people want to sound ridiculous and then demand that everyone else agree to it.
So if someone attempts to rob Fort Knox, their failure means that they did not try?
Why would you put forth such an obviously stupid argument? To what end?
Trump failed, but he sure as hell tried to steal the 2020 election.
He acknowledged that Trump tried to steal the election. He just dismissed that because Trump failed.
None of that matters.
Trump has three years to go, and who is going to beat out Vance? It's doubtful the Libs will gain anything during the midterms thanks to Schumer's shutdown
Trump was a known quantity and still got reelected because the electorate realized the Dems are so weak and corrupt.
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Nerm,
I understand what you are trying to do here. Sadly, others don't, and it has turned into a pile of flags. Sorry, but I am closing it down.