Gaza aid boat activists to be shown 7 October attacks footage, says Israeli defence minister – as it happened
By: Tom Ambrose (now); Joe Coughlan, Vicky Graham and Jonathan Yerushalmy (The Guardian)
Now those on the selfie yacht will claim they have been traumatized.
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Israel’s defence minister, Israel Katz, has congratulated the Israeli army on the “quick and safe takeover” of the Madleen , the Gaza-bound aid vessel.
Confirming that the passengers onboard – including climate activist Greta Thunberg and French MEP Rima Hassan – will be transported to the port of Ashdod, Katz added that he had instructed the IDF to “show the flotilla passengers the video of the horrors of the October 7 massacre.”
Referring to Thunberg personally, as well as the other activists on board, Katz said he wanted them to “see exactly who the Hamas terrorist organization they came to support and for whom they work is, what atrocities they committed against women, the elderly, and children, and against whom Israel is fighting to defend itself.”
The current war in Gaza began after a Hamas-led assault on southern Israel on 7 October 2023 that killed more than 1,200 people, according to an Israeli tally.
Gaza’s health ministry says over 54,000 Palestinians have been killed since the start of that campaign.
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The IDF saved the lives of these misguided fools. The Palestinians would have rushed the boat to get the supplies or Hamas would have gunned people to keep them back.
The Palestinians behave like animals. The Jews liberated from NAZI concentration camps didn't act this way. How many of the Palestinians killed at Israeli aid distribution sites have been trampled?
And then blamed the IDF and the stupid fuckers on the leftwing media would have believed them and we would see it repeated endlessly.
If you pay attention, the news reports are that the IDF fired shots and (fill in the blank) Palestinians were killed. The reports never actually claim the IDF shot anyone. A lot of the Palestinians are being killed by trampling each other.
I actually saw a video of a person in plain clothes shooting at the Gazans trying to get the aid, and it is known that the Hamas militants wear plain clothes in order to hide among their human shields. Has the media bothered to point THAT out? NO, because it doesn't fit their narrative of blaming the IDF.
The events of Oct 7th does not justify killing tens of thousands of people in a prolonged revenge campaign of bombing and deprivation. I have a feeling Greta Thunberg will take that position as well.
Why not let her deliver what little aid she has for the Gazans and move on from there?
Maybe if your are ignorant of the history of the palestinians.
Again, you haven't been paying attention. That aid would have been taken by hamas and there is a very good chance they would be killed. Much like the Israeli were on October 7th and hostages that were taken.
Then invite international authorities in to distribute the aid.
Then Hamas would steal the supplies and just kill the "international authorities" aka as the UN
You really think Hamas is so powerful that they could overwhelm any international peacekeeping force? Do you need genocide so badly that you’re afraid to try?
Yet again, you aren't paying attention to what is going on. What I stated in 2.1 and what Greg Jones stated in 2.1.2 are happening.
I didn’t say they weren’t. I said there should be an effort to do something about it. Randomly bombing schools is not the answer.
Something was done about it.
I'll take "Unrelated nonsense" for $100 Alex.
Why aren't you suggesting hamas, the guys that started it all, give up the hostages and surrender? I am confident Israel would stop the bombing.
This is the only valid point being made for stopping the Israeli action.
Possibly the least helpful endorsement since Bill Cosby's commercial for rohypnol.
Because.... and you won't like to hear this.... left wing activists have a long history of disregard for both laws and common sense if they feel strongly about something. There is no telling what she and her fellow whackjobs are actually trying to smuggle in there, there is zero way to guarantee her safety, and there is zero confidence she won't try to stay there and make herself a volunteer human shield.
What does any of that have to do with showing her video of Oct 7th? On the face of it appears like the Israeli authorities believe the video justifies killing 50,000 people.
Not really. On the face of it, they want these virtue signalers to get a slice of real life and why the whole conflict/war got started. Perhaps it will generate some internal soul searching.
The video justifies Israel doing whatever they have to do to make sure Oct 7 never happens again. That could include hamas giving up for the sake of the Palestinians or the Palestinians rising up and throwing hamas out.
The same thing it did when you brought it up.
I doubt that very much. I think they feel the actions of Oct 7th make them justified in doing whatever they feel like they need to do to end Hamas. Whether this will actually do that is another matter.
There is no way that Israel has killed that many people,
Why [deleted] [✘] believe every bit of misinformation and propaganda that the Gaza Health Ministry puts out?
The Palestinians would have swarmed the boat the same way they swarm any other aid distribution. And the selfie yacht wasn't equipped to defend itself.
How did the selfie crew think they would get out of Gaza? Sail off into the sunset? Fly out of Tel Aviv?
So what little aid they had aboard that ship will go to Gaza and not be taken by Hamas for their own use.
Again I shake my head at your "bleeding heart" comments. You know very well that the reason for Israel to continue fighting is to end and erradicate Hamas in order to be able to live without the threat I posted elsewhere of a Hamas official stating that Oct 7 will be repeated over and over again. Why are there so many civilian deaths? Ask that question of Hamas instead and have them answer that it is because they wear civilian clothing and hide themselves and their weapons and control centres in and under hospitals, schools, mosques, UNRWA facilities and refugee camps, in order to not be separated from their human shields. No blame for that, eh JR? And if you believe the numbers the Hamas authorities provide, would you be interested in buying a 10% share from me of the toll booth of the superhighway between Chengdu and Chongqing? I would sell it to you really cheap, it would be a bargain. I'll send you the SWIFT code for my bank account.
They are just doing this to get attention for themselves.
"How dare you" comes to mind. Been out of the limelight and found a new ticket............
I was going to post a similar article myself.
Hopefully (tho I doubt it) watching the video will give these celebrities a clue about the ruthless savages they are trying to support
They will be blind to it, will continue to believe Israel DESERVED it, and they will NEVER admit that they were supporting the wrong side, because that would discredit what they consider themselves to be and stand for. I will apologize if Greta Thunberg actually admits that she was wrong, but I really don't think I will have to.
Will they be prying their eyelids open?
Will the Israelis in turn watch videos of Palestinian children trying to escape the bombs?
Starving babies?
They can be fed with the meat from the screaming live Jewish babies their heroes cooked in ovens in front of their parents. Oh, but wait, maybe that wouldn't be considered Halal.
Nice to see your support of declared terrorists. Why not ask those "heroes" to surrender in order to stop the carnage, since it is inevitable that Hamas is not going to end up winning this war notwithstanding the fact that they've OBVIOUSLY already won the propaganda war, as proven by your and JohnRussell's comments.
Why do you engage such simplistic arguments? Did you watch the videos I linked? How is a child a terrorist?
I absolutely condemn Hamas and wish they would surrender, but that doesn’t keep me from having basic compassion for children and other non combatants. These are human beings and they are not less worthy of basic human needs than you or anyone else.
Why should I have more compassion for the children of those who blew up buses with Israeli children and women on board that I personally witnessed when I was in Jerusalem, or the bombing of the Passover seder at the Park Hotel in Netanya (known as the Passover Massacre) when I was in that demolished reception room a couple of days after the bombing seeing the devestation, the blood on the walls and floor that had not yet been wiped off, and listened to the doctors at Laniado Hospital tell me through their tears what they had to do to save at least a few of their lives and how mangled the children's bodies were - yes PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. How would I have felt if my son had NOT slept in the morning when he would normally have been eating breakfast at the cafe below his building that was blown up just when he normally would have been there - so they didn't have to send his remains back to us in a bottle or cannister? How about all THOSE children? Did the Palestinians give a shit about them? Did you ever have to run and hide in a bomb shelter? Well, I had to. So tell me why I should be as concerned about the Gazan children who were NOT cooked in ovens on Oct 7, you know, the children of those who danced in the streets and shared candies on Oct 7, JUST AS THEY DID ON 9/11.
I did not say you should have more compassion for one group over another. I think you should have compassion for children. Period. Why does it matter what their parents are doing? They are children!
Yes, I have compassion for those children who will grow up and NOT want to kill Jews but will do whatever they possibly can to resist the UNRWA training and the command in the Q'oran to kill Jews and will rebuke the Imams who tell them that The Day of Judgment Will Not Come Until the Muslims Have Fought the Jews and Killed Them. I will have compassion for those Muslim children who attend the Seeds of Peace Camps and learn to be brothers and sisters with Jews.
When this becomes a commonplace reality, I will be equally compassionate:
So you need to wait for that little to grow up and tolerate Jews before you have compassion for her? What do you think the chances of that are now?
Meanwhile a whole lot of other children won’t get the chance to earn your precious compassion. They’re too busy dying.
Well, you know what Andy Dufresne said, Either get busy living or get busy dying. There is no sense our continuing this dialogue, because it's pretty obvious we have had very different life experiences which form our attitudes. So take care, Tacos! Times are pretty weird these days.
There is no credible evidence that Palestinian children or babies are being killed or starved. Quit believing the propaganda and lies
Did you watch the videos I linked? Why do you find them not credible? Do you have a need to dehumanize all Palestinians? Even children?
If your comment wasn't meant to be satirical, then surely we all must know that collateral damage happens in wars. Interestingly, even the vicious Nazis and evil Japanese in WW2 realized that they could not win the war and surrendered, one reason that they surrendered was to stop the carnage of their own and innocent people when they saw the carpet-bombing of Dresden and the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Don't expect the same common sense from Hamas, because they know they have already won the propaganda war causing the bleeding hearts of the world to gush out their empathy for the declared terrorists, [deleted] [✘] The fact is that Israel is not the root cause of the deaths of the innocent victims in Gaza, it is Hamas for the many reasons I've already posted over and over again for months.
And, as expected, the little clown has been deported from Israel.