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Jonathan Ross' Internal Bleeding Statement Questioned By Left

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  10 months ago  •  21 comments

By:   Khaleda Rahman (Newsweek)

Jonathan Ross' Internal Bleeding Statement Questioned By Left
The Department of Homeland Security said the ICE agent who fatally shot Renee Good in Minneapolis suffered internal bleeding.

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Yeah, the "internal bleeding" excuse is pretty much bullshit.  Good's vehicle could not achieve sufficient speed (from reverse) in less than 10 feet to cause massive injury resulting in internal bleeding.  And Ross' torso was above the hood of the vehicle so there's little opportunity for contact.  Ross could have been struck by the rearview mirror but the available video doesn't support that, either.  Ross' own cellphone video refutes the notion that his torso made contact with the vehicle.

DHS and ICE are pushing a false narrative because they actually believe the American people are stupider than they are.  


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


Social media users who lean left have questioned whether the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officer who killed Renee Good in Minneapolis suffered internal bleeding.

The Department of Homeland Security told Newsweek on Wednesday that the officer, Jonathan Ross, suffered internal bleeding to his torso during the January 7 encounter. Officials did not provide further details about how extensive the bleeding was or his current condition.

Newsweek has contacted DHS for further comment via an email sent outside regular business hours.

Why It Matters

The report that Ross suffered internal bleeding has prompted fresh debate about the shooting. There are many causes of internal bleeding, varying in severity from bruising to significant blood loss.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem has said Ross was struck by Good's vehicle and that he fired in self-defense, a characterization that has been rejected by Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey and other Minnesota officials.

Video captured by bystanders has not clearly shown Good's vehicle making contact with Ross and he and other officers were seen walking without obvious difficulty after Good was shot and crashed her vehicle.

What To Know


Vice President JD Vance responded to the report of Ross suffering internal bleeding, saying "it turns out ramming a law enforcement officer with a car causes injuries." Elon Musk went further, claiming Good "almost killed" Ross.

While conservatives used the reports of Ross suffering from internal bleeding as evidence he was hit by Good's vehicle, several X users—primarily those on the left—accused the government of "lying." Others suggested that if he did, it would not have been a serious case if he did not require hospitalization.

Political commentator Brian Krassenstein wrote on X that DHS is "LYING" about Ross suffering from internal bleeding.

Pointing to news reports that Ross was treated at a hospital and released the same day, he wrote that "this leaves less than a 9 hour window that he could have feasibly been at the hospital."

Krassenstein said that protocol for internal bleeding would require patients to spend at least the night in hospital.

Activist Amy Siskind shared video of Ross walking away from the scene moments after shooting Good, writing on X: "Hello doctors, do people with internal bleeding walk like this?"

Benjamin Allbright, a radio host for KOA Colorado who recently said he is "not a leftist," wrote on X that "if he was actually internal bleeding, he would not have been released from the hospital when he was."

Meanwhile, journalist Aaron Rupar said the Trump administration "has no credibility and nothing 'officials' say should be taken at face value."

Good, 37, was shot in the head after three ICE officers surrounded her Honda Pilot on a snowy street in Minneapolis.

Bystander video shows one officer ordering her to open the door of her vehicle and grabbing the handle.

Video shows that as the vehicle begins to move forward, Ross, who was in front of the vehicle, raised his weapon and fired three shots at close range, jumping back as Good's vehicle advanced.

Newsweek previously reported that Ross was dragged by a vehicle and injured while trying to apprehend a suspect.

What People Are Saying


Political commentator Brian Krassenstein said in a video posted on X: "Ross shot Good at 9:37 a.m. This was also the time he allegedly got hit by the car. At 5:52 p.m. that day, the Washington Post reported that Kristi Noem said that he had been released from the hospital. This means that the maximum amount of time that Ross could have been at the hospital is nine hours, tops. The problem is that the minimum time anybody would spend at the hospital if they actually had internal bleeding of organs in their torso would be 24 to 28 hours."

Journalist Aaron Rupar wrote on X: "This should go without saying but the Trump regime has no credibility and nothing "officials" say should be taken at face value. Last week they lied about a killing we all saw on tape. It's malpractice to report on the statements they release with anything but extreme skepticism."

Benjamin Allbright wrote on X in response to another user: "First of all, the definition of internal bleeding includes light bruising. Second, if he was actually internal bleeding, he would not have been released from the hospital when he was. What you're doing is falling for what this administration always does, which is lying about something to make it look a certain way and try to grab the early narrative."

Democratic strategist Mike Nellis wrote on X: "Now the White House wants everyone to believe the officer who shot Renee Good had internal bleeding because she rammed him with her car. If that were true, you'd see it clearly in at least one of the videos, and they would've been shouting it from the rooftops since Day One. If that were true, they wouldn't be blocking local officials from investigating. These people are f****** liars, and we have no reason to believe a word they say."

Vice President JD Vance wrote on X on Wednesday: "While much of left has lied about this case, it turns out ramming a law enforcement officer with a car causes injuries. Who knew!"

Elon Musk wrote on X: "She almost killed him."

What Happens Next


It remains to be seen if further details about Ross' injuries will emerge.

An FBI investigation into Good's shooting is ongoing, while Minnesota officials have raised alarm after federal officials blocked state investigators from accessing evidence and declared the state has no jurisdiction to investigate the killing. The Justice Department on Tuesday said it does not believe there is currently any basis to open a criminal civil rights investigation. Good's family has hired the law firm Romanucci & Blandin to conduct their own investigation into the shooting.

Meanwhile, tensions remain high in Minneapolis amid the Trump administration's immigration crackdown, with the shooting of a man in the leg by an immigration officer on Wednesday night sparking fresh protests.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    10 months ago

A bruise is caused by internal bleeding.  Did Ross get bruised by patting himself on the back?  The released videos of the incident does not support the DHS excuse for murder.

These bogus claims are all about covering Noem's ass for deliberately lying and covering Trump's ass for jumping to a conclusion without knowing anything.  Trump is threatening to deploy the US military to the Twin Cities to hide his own stupidity.

Stalinism has come to America.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Nerm_L @1    10 months ago

A similar incident occurred in Chicago in November. An ICE vehicle got nervous about some of the traffic they were in and accidently swerved into a teachers Tahoe.

They got out, she's yelling that he hit her car, so he says "do something about it, bitch" and fired five shots into her car, arrested her and a passenger as domestic terrorists

and fabricated, with other officers, a complete lie.

Woman shot by Border Patrol is charged; Brighton Park residents say feds antagonized the community - Chicago Sun-Times

US prosecutors ask court to drop indictment of woman shot during deportation blitz in Chicago | Reuters

His own body cam, supported by Chicago traffic video told a different story - the truth.

Was Stalin an Authoritarian or a Fascist?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
1.1.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Split Personality @1.1    10 months ago
Was Stalin an Authoritarian or a Fascist?

Stalin was a self-serving communist.  Trump is behaving as if Joseph Stalin is role model.  Stalin erected self-aggrandizing monuments to himself and remodeled the Kremlin according to his taste.  Stalin was very conscious of his brand. 

Trump is actually mirroring Stalin's megalomania.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Nerm_L @1    10 months ago
The released videos of the incident does not support the DHS excuse for murder.

Maybe the driver was a black belt in the no touch martial art of bulshitzu.

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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    10 months ago

DHS or Ross himself should name the hospital and emergency room treating physician.  I have been in the emergency room as a patient and was admitted and I have been there and been sent home the same day. They give you the paperwork either way showing what you were treated for. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @2    10 months ago

No one with suspected internal bleeding gets released the same day.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @2.1    10 months ago

Of course not, they couldnt even complete all the tests on the same day. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.3  bugsy  replied to  Split Personality @2.1    10 months ago

They do if it is a bruise, even a serious one associated with trauma. 
Bruising is considered internal bleeding

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @2.1.3    10 months ago

huh...I got a serious bruise on my sternum when I rolled a car over 4 times. Actually, I cracked it. Not one word about "internal bleeding"

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.4    10 months ago

I got a fractured sternum when I was kicked in the chest by the security nazis at the old Comiskey Park. 

Originally I wasnt going to go to the hospital but when i went to take a drink of coffee the next morning I spit it up all over the kitchen table. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    10 months ago

It hurts like hell. Did you go to the hospital to at least get an x-ray?

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.4    10 months ago

From google AI

‘Yes, a bruise ( contusion ) is a form of internal bleeding , specifically when small blood vessels under the skin break from trauma and leak blood into the surrounding tissues, causing discoloration. While a common bruise is localized, significant internal bleeding can occur deeper in organs, muscles, or the abdomen, which might not be visible externally but can be serious, requiring medical attention’

Hope this helps
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @2.1.7    10 months ago

what hospital did he go to, and who treated him for what? ross has paperwork for that information, and if he actually went to the emergency room he should show evidence of that. 

the incident happened 9 days ago, and we still dont know the name of the hospital he went to. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.9  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.8    10 months ago
what hospital did he go to, and who treated him for what?

I googled both of your questions and the answer came up the same..

"none of your effing business"

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2    10 months ago

Even if the hospital is named they can't say what he was treated for because of HIPAA

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2    10 months ago

No , but he could.  He got paperwork when he left that hospital, if he ever went.  Let's see it. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    10 months ago

he's not gonna show it especially if there's nothing to show

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.2.3  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    10 months ago
He got paperwork when he left that hospital, if he ever went.  Let's see it.

He probably got it referred from Trump's personal doctor.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2.4  Split Personality  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.3    10 months ago

he will be applying for disability with full pay for back pain from  this event and the last dumb thing he tried to do where he was dragged after reaching in and trying to control the steering wheel.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
3  Igknorantzruls    10 months ago

Hopefully, if he actual has internal bleeding, i very much doubt it was from Goods' vehicle, hopefully, it is from his bleeding ulcer but somehow doubt he even feels a little bit guilty. After seeing so many videos it appears more and more like he was setting up to take revenge from the last person that drug him down the road. 

  He also very much put the agent attempting to reach into the vehicle in jeopardy when he unnecessarily drew and shot.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3    10 months ago

I think he got on edge when the wife sassed him. 

 
 

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