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Kamala Harris Delivers Another Incoherent Interview On MSNBC - State of the Union

  
Via:  Texan1211  •  3 years ago  •  326 comments

By:   Jordan Andrews (State of the Union)

Kamala Harris Delivers Another Incoherent Interview On MSNBC - State of the Union
Vice President Kamala Harris has come under fire online following her recent public appearance, particularly regarding her poor use of language and lack of articulation. "You know, every election cycle we talk about this is the most election of our lifetime. Lawrence, this one is," Harris said. "We are literally talking about people who are […]

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Vice President Kamala Harris has come under fire online following her recent public appearance, particularly regarding her poor use of language and lack of articulation.

"You know, every election cycle we talk about this is the most election of our lifetime. Lawrence, this one is," Harris said.

"We are literally talking about people who are attempting to divide our country in the most crude, frankly, and profound way," Harris said. 


Kamala Harris: "This is the most election of our lifetime" pic.twitter.com/aNg7JNIqle
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) December 20, 2023

"We are talking about those who are intent and purposeful to, to attack fundamental freedoms," she said.

"Be it the freedom to make a decision about your own body, the freedom to love who you love openly and with pride, the freedom to be free from fear of violence and hate, the freedom to just be — the freedom to just be," she said.

Critics blasted her statement about the upcoming election being "the most election" and compared her communication style to that of President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

"Kamala Harris: 'This is the most election of our lifetime,'" the RNC Research account posted.

"This one is the most election of our lifetime. There's never been an election this most election," one X user posted.

"As a woman, I am mortified that Kamala Harris is the first female VP. She is an utter embarrassment," another X user wrote.

"Terrible! Embarrassing!" another said.



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bugsy
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3  bugsy    3 years ago

Being intelligent was not one of the boxes she needed to/did check off to be VP.

 
 
 
Hallux
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4  Hallux    3 years ago

So, I am supposed to believe no editing took place ... in this day and age that is a joke.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @4    3 years ago

How many word salads does she have to toss before you stop saying it is not her?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2    3 years ago

If you are going to criticize, at least be accurate.   This was not a word salad.   This was leaving out a word in a sentence.   

Specifically she left out the adjective "important" (or possibly "critical" or "pivotal" or ...) in her phrase:  “the most ______ election”

Why do people so often focus on such petty crap rather than matters of importance?   Criticize Harris for incompetence (e.g. the border) rather than something as silly as leaving out an adjective while speaking (as if this is rarity for a public figure).

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.1    3 years ago

Are you suggesting her comment was edited? That is what my comment was in reference to. If you are going to have an issue with a comment, at least be accurate with what the comment was actually saying.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.2    3 years ago

Only they call themselves the smartest people in the room. The rest of us know it is just more defending the indefensible and denying the undeniable 

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2.5  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.3    3 years ago

No but, I am straight up saying that Harris merely skipped one word in her prepared remarks which were still perfectly well understood by everyone and over which you are now having a typically hyperpartisan disproportionately over the top total overreaction...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @4.2.5    3 years ago

Is that what I am doing? Thanks for letting me know, I never would have guessed that.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.8  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.3    3 years ago
Are you suggesting her comment was edited?

No.   How on Earth do you come up with that bizarre notion?   This sentence in particular is crystal clear:

TiG@4.2.1 —Specifically she left out the adjective "important" ...

Surely you know that 'she' refers to Harris.   I stated in crystal clear language that Harris left out an adjective in her sentence.

You don't see this??

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.2.9  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.2    3 years ago

You sure read a lot into someone accidentally omitting an adjective in an oral statement.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.8    3 years ago

And none of that had anything to do with my comment and the post I was commenting on. That would be comment 4.

Thanks for the input but I already know what I said,what I meant and what I was commenting on.Obviously you don't. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.12  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.10    3 years ago
And none of that had anything to do with my comment and the post I was commenting on. 

I commented on your comment, not on Hallux' comment.   I  commented on what you actually wrote.

You complained about word salads:

RDtC@4.2 — How many word salads does she have to toss before you stop saying it is not her?

I noted that this was not a word salad in any way, but rather an omission of an adjective in a sentence:

TiG@4.2.1 — If you are going to criticize, at least be accurate.   This was not a word salad.   This was leaving out a word in a sentence.  

In short, yeah Harris fucked up.   She should have said "most important election" and instead said "most ____ election".

This kind of criticism is petty and pointless.   As I noted, one could easily criticize Harris for cause (e.g. the border).   But this petty partisan crap accomplishes nothing.    

And why is this petty?   Because politicians routinely make oral mistakes.   They leave out words.   They use the wrong words.   It is a common human error and certainly easy to understand.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.12    3 years ago

Thanks for the input but I already know what I said,what I meant and what I was commenting on.Obviously you don't. 

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.14  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.4    3 years ago
The rest of us. . . . 

Tell us who Y'all are. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.14    3 years ago

Not the ones that are not

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.16  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.15    3 years ago

You wrote a "word salad" — UNBELIEVABLE!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.17  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.16    3 years ago

I aspire to be just like kamala. Of course I have to lose 20 or so IQ points.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.18  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.17    3 years ago

I do not like Harris as V.P. and have little use for her as a politician.

Regardless of politics, policies, behavior, etc., anyone who earns a JD and passes the CA bar is intelligent.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.19  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.17    3 years ago

Well, . . .twice in a matter of days I have experienced several words salads you've "repared and posted, so you're busily on your your way to having that aspiration fulfilled!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.19    3 years ago

If you say so.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.21  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.1    3 years ago
Why do people so often focus on such petty crap rather than matters of importance?

You mean like somebody focusing on the word "vermin" instead of the whole message?  

 Criticize Harris for incompetence

That is exactly what this article does.  She is so incompetent she can't even make sense when she talks.  It's not like this is a one off thing.  She has a history of this stupidity.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.22  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.21    3 years ago
That is exactly what this article does. 

Yes but the comments are claiming that she is stupid, unintelligent, idiot, etc.

Do you consider earning a JD degree (technically a doctorate) and then passing the CA bar a feat that can be accomplished by an unintelligent person or —even worse— a "complete and utter idiot"?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.23  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.22    3 years ago

Harris was the attorney general of California and a United States senator. 

I wonder how many of these guys think Tommy Tuberville or Ron Johnson are "unintelligent"

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.22    3 years ago
Yes but

Everything after "but" is nothing than mere excuses and opinion.  None of which have a damn thing to do with my comment.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.25  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.24    3 years ago

Do you consider earning a JD degree (technically a doctorate) and then passing the CA bar a feat that can be accomplished by an unintelligent person or —even worse— a "complete and utter idiot"?

Note: 

Jeremy@4.2.21 ☞ She has a history of this stupidity.
 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.26  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.25    3 years ago
Why do people so often focus on such petty crap rather than matters of importance?

Again.  Nothing to do with my statement.  I'm not playing your games.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.28  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.27    3 years ago

MAGA "facts" are not facts.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.29  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.27    3 years ago

I baffles me that people keep trying to make excuses for her.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.31  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.30    3 years ago
Do a modicum of research yourself. Look up "Kamala Harris Word Salad" and become enlightened to the brutal reality that she is a poor, poor communicator.

You can believe she makes "word salads" if you want, but that is not what the argument on this seed is about. You and others claim that her forgetting to put the word "important" in one sentence of the interview is a "word salad" proving she is unintelligent. That is ABSURD, and so are half the comments on this article. If anybody here cares what is posted on NT this article should have been at least locked , if not deleted altogether.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.33  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.30    3 years ago
the brutal reality that she is a poor, poor communicator.

You would think that somebody with her background would be able to coherently communicate.  She's an example that having a college degree doesn't necessarily make one smart.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.35  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.32    3 years ago

Without a doubt.  

Notice how they keep moving the goal posts?

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4.2.36  Gazoo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.33    3 years ago

“You would think that somebody with her background would be able to coherently communicate.”

She was certainly able to communicate coherently with willie brown.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.2.39  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.22    3 years ago

I do not consider her to be stupid at all but I do consider her to have little or no common sense to to utilize her intelligence properly. I once had a brother in law who had a Mensa level IQ and a doctorate degree in mathematical statistics but had little common sense in that he had trouble managing his check book.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.41  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.39    3 years ago

She strikes me as immature and incompetent.   

It is one thing to criticize an individual for cause and back that up.

It is quite another to just make emotive, partisan negative personal comments that defy reason.

Ridiculous seeds like this accomplish nothing other than to illustrate the hyper-partisanship at play today.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.43  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.26    3 years ago

No, but you have time to prank us about displaying 'Proud' and Pride. So, I am waiting for the game to end.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.44  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.29    3 years ago

It really should not "baffle" any of us, because we as humans are not perfect and with aging in many cases we, humans, give up the facade of achieving the unachievable perfection in such a dynamic world. Now then, the NOTION that people should DISCOUNT/DISMISS/Wring hands, feet and neck over the missing of one word or several in an interview. . ."Important" as the word is. . .ridiculous. 

What should the nation do? Impeach the person.  Not. Going. To. Happen. Nor. Should. It. Happen. Over. This.

It's not as if she lied to the country, defamed somebody, or has attacked the competition mercilessly just to make herself look better to the public.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.46  Right Down the Center  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.33    3 years ago
You would think that somebody with her background would be able to coherently communicate.

You would have to wonder what someone would have done in order to get a degree and pass the bar when the ability to communicate is key to being a lawyer and they are soooo shitty at it..

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.47  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.34    3 years ago
Much easier to delete than to debate, especially when you are attempting to defend someone like Harris.

Defending the indefensible and denying the undeniable. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.48  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.44    3 years ago
What should the nation do?

The nation should do nothing but Biden should get himself another running mate.  Keeping her just makes people more concerned about him running at his age.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.49  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.2.44    3 years ago
Not. Going. To. Happen. Nor. Should. It. Happen. Over. This.

California public school education?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.2.50  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.45    3 years ago

Because IMPEACHMENT is the only way to get rid of any Vice-President outside of an election. As for waiting for her to "arrive" at perfection, all of us would be waiting for a LIFETIME (and our deaths). As for how she makes MAGAs feel—It has been implied that MAGAs have no feelings of IMPORTANCE where liberals are concerned. Begs the question that MAGAs are here railing on a liberal/VP and writing articles about her.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.51  CB  replied to  Gazoo @4.2.36    3 years ago

Well, . . we all have an individual private life and want love in it. Now you can continue 'tapping' this vein but at some point it will say more about MAGAs than any other person. Play to better 'angels.'

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.52  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.48    3 years ago

Barack Obama as Vice-President pick. Or that may be too 'trumpian' an audacious action to test out on the system.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.53  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.49    3 years ago

I have no idea what the hell you are being silly about now.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.54  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.2.53    3 years ago
I have no idea what the hell you are being silly about now.

Your punctuation.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.55  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.52    3 years ago

That would be a good idea but I am sure Obama would want to stay away from the Biden shit show.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.56  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.54    3 years ago

Petty too. This is online. "Short-hand" and "expressive" communication is allowed. On a comment board, I really can just bang the keyboards with "all thumbs" and still get by. Get over it. 

BTW, I have seen you miss a few words here and there too in your discourses. But, I am not petty so I don't make a point of stressing even MAGAs out about their lapses. I get over it (and keep my thoughts about it to myself).

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.57  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.55    3 years ago

Please. What does MAGAs know about Obama besides he has left "Obamacare" waving and flapping in MAGA faces for all these years?! Don't pretend to speak positive of Barack just as an opportunity to trash Biden. Oh, and there MAGAs go again: Trashing a liberal just because.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.58  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.57    3 years ago

Very close to a word salad.  Maybe if you stuck a couple more MAGAs in there

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.59  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.58    3 years ago

MAGA sputtering. At least, Obama ain't mad at Biden for sticking it out during a pandemic and whipping that other guy with the big ass lying mouth and taking his 'job' from him. ?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F474x%2F1c%2F9e%2F2c%2F1c9e2c8f12ab9016cb82efacf92fdf95--mick-jagger-the-rolling-stones.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=6a598d9c1c2626974da1aa5a85e1316d3c9c24b6ea0e10833996b26b03bfd249&ipo=images

Obama could have done it himself, but alas: It is time limited by the Constitution.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.60  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.59    3 years ago

I like balsamic vinaigrette. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.61  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.2.59    3 years ago
At least, Obama ain't mad at Biden for sticking it out during a pandemic and whipping that other guy with the big ass mouth's and taking his 'job' from him.

”with the big ass mouth’s”?  That isn’t Kamala speak, whose is it?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.63  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.2.59    3 years ago

A bright red tongue with whites stripes can signal serious conditions, you should get it checked out.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.64  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.60    3 years ago

No one, but no one, seems to notice, nevertheless.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.66  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.61    3 years ago

MAGA petty again. I corrected my mistake. Still it's a comment and nobody will be writing articles about it (but you apparently) and so you just made it weird in your 'haste' to look smart. . . I corrected my sentence and the ten minute marker did not even 'sound.'  MAGA PETTY.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.67  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.62    3 years ago

MAGA desperation on tap.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.68  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.2.66    3 years ago

Nothing MAGA about me brother, I thought that you would have learned that by now.

Still it's a comment and nobody will be writing articles about it (but you apparently).

I wrote no article on your comment.

so you just made it weird in your 'haste' to look smart.

Weird?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.2.69  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.65    3 years ago

Or if looking at this positively-it could mean: The audacity of hope (Help! Barack we need you!)  :)

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.70  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.68    3 years ago

Still doing it right now, just plainly weird.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.71  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.64    3 years ago

Source please

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.72  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.71    3 years ago

I am the source. Quote me.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.73  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.72    3 years ago

Maybe a credible source?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.74  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.2.70    3 years ago

Why do you feel weird?  Maybe the bright red tongue.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.2.75  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.73    3 years ago

I'm the source and I am credible for I am the source. Like it or lump it.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.2.76  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.74    3 years ago

It is clear MAGAs need to win this. . . so go ahead take it. Enjoy it. I'm moving back into the substance of the discussion and it ain't this.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.77  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.75    3 years ago

Is that like 'I think therefore I am"?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.78  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.2.76    3 years ago
It is clear MAGAs need to win this.

Win what, lower ratings for Kamala?  

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.2.79  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.77    3 years ago

It's more like I am thinking of seeing other people and you should get your banter somewhere else too. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.81  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.79    3 years ago

That hurts my feelings.  Maybe I am becoming a dem.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.83  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.78    3 years ago

Go collect your prize and know that I am happy for you.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.84  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.2.83    3 years ago

Prize? Is this a contest for you?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.86  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @4.2.43    3 years ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.87  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @4.2.44    3 years ago
Impeach the person

[deleted]  Nobody mentioned a damn thing about impeachment.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.2.88  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.62    3 years ago

Not all liberals, many certainly are.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hallux @4    3 years ago
So, I am supposed to believe no editing took place

You want me to believe she's not a blithering idiot with the articulation level of a toddler?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4.3.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3    3 years ago

“You want me to believe she's not a blithering idiot with the articulation level of a toddler?”

Believe as you will, but to maintain any level of integrity, the same standards must apply to every individual in the public eye, in every situation, and in every context.

We could do well to start here. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.3.2  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3    3 years ago
You want me to believe she's not a blithering idiot with the articulation level of a toddler?

Then you actually believe that the current V.P. who graduated with a JD then passed the CA bar, who was elected and served twice as the AG for CA and was elected and served as a US senator for CA has these qualities:

  • "a blithering idiot"
  • "the articulation level of a toddler"

Probably best to tone down the level of hyperbole just a tad ... to get even remotely close to a credible claim.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.3.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.2    3 years ago
Probably best to tone down the level of hyperbole just a tad

3f6ewg.jpg

 
 
 
CB
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4.3.4  CB  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.2    3 years ago

They can't tone it down. They are living out a fantasy that they 'own' the opposition with their figurative combat rhetoric. It is every bit modeled after Trump's verbosity where he wins simply because he demands that he get the last word!

MAGAs literally think they can 'chat' the opposition to 'death'!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.3.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.3.4    3 years ago

Nice chat

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.3.6  TᵢG  replied to  CB @4.3.4    3 years ago

For many it is not a fantasy; it is just taunting bullshit.   I am quite certain that these 'many' know they have no argument in support of the party to which they are attached and thus engage in non-serious, flippant, dishonest and often petty commentary.   To wit, if one cannot argue serious issues, some resort to low-grade rhetoric.

 
 
 
CB
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4.3.7  CB  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.6    3 years ago

And I will share this. All my life I have thought that conservatives (MAGA/Tea-partiers) were sincere people but simply misguided.

Now, I am getting the "full-seat" treatment that informs me a large segment of our citizenry is INTENTIONALLY biased against facts and have been deliberately misshaping the political landscape since this country's inception. . . to their (alone) worldview by force of their will. 

Well that shit ends now.

Thanks to the internet, people are waking up to the truth that conservativism is a SHAM, a scam, and its proponents not truly believe in individual freedom for those they INSIST will be beneath them in the pecking order of this nation.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.3.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.3.7    3 years ago
All my life I have thought that conservatives (MAGA/Tea-partiers) were sincere people but simply misguided.

All of your life?  How young are you?

is a SHAM

It’s Sam the Sham:

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.3.9  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.3.8    3 years ago

Don't worry about it. By now some conservatives are beyond understanding liberals. Too much BS circulating around - give it several months of puking and purging. . . . 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
4.3.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.3.9    3 years ago
Don't worry about it.

What me worry?

give it several months of puking and purging. . . . 

I don’t expect to do either

Instead I followed Matty’s advice;

Matty told Hatty
That's the thing to do
Get you someone really
Pull the wool with you

Wooly bully

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.3.12  CB  replied to  MonsterMash @4.3.11    3 years ago

Actually, though I am mindful to tread lightly on this one, I have got to ask: Who the hell are you attempting to label as mentally imbalanced? Do be specific, if you can.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.3.14  CB  replied to  MonsterMash @4.3.13    3 years ago

Please, let's be respectful to one another. This country won't make it with us 'warring' politically and bashing each other in 'blood-less combat' - we have got to start somewhere "stitching" ourselves together as a country! Why? Because, believe it or not, we are all that we got in this 'world.' Outsiders will 'welcome' us mocking each other to 'bits' in every way, shape, and form. But, we will end up a lost "people" in the process.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
4.3.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.2    3 years ago

So you are of the mindset that because somebody has a degree they can't be blithering idiots.  Sorry to burst your little bubble, but a degree doesn't prevent stupidity and Kamala Harris is a perfect example of that. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.3.16  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3.15    3 years ago
So you are of the mindset that because somebody has a degree they can't be blithering idiots. 

No, Jeremy, you have dishonestly diluted my position to absurdity.   Pay attention to what I actually wrote:

TiG@4.3.2 ☞ Then you actually believe that the current V.P. who graduated with a JD then passed the CA bar, who was elected and served twice as the AG for CA and was elected and served as a US senator for CA has these qualities: ...

A blithering idiot would never be able to graduate with a JD (that is a doctorate degree) and then use that knowledge to pass the CA bar.   Those two feats alone are proof that Harris is very intelligent.   So your criticism of her intelligence is ridiculous on its face.

On top of that, she has served and reelected as the AG for CA.   Elected and served as a US senator and is the current V.P.

One could make a decent argument that she is ineffective, etc. at her current job, but to instead criticize her intelligence is demonstrably laughable hyperbole.   

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
4.3.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.16    3 years ago
Pay attention to what I actually wrote

I did.  The only conclusion is that you think that there is no chance somebody with a degree can't be an idiot despite Kamal Harris' examples.  

A blithering idiot would never be able to graduate with a JD 

And then we have Kamala Harris.  

On top of that, she has served and reelected as the AG for CA. 

"Reelected".  LMAO.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
4.3.18  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.16    3 years ago
No, Jeremy, you have dishonestly diluted my position to absurdity.

No he hasn’t.     You put forth an example of a person who managed to passed the bar.    Largely an exercise of memory not intelligence.    Then use her history as a career bureaucrat as a sign of intellect?

Not my idea of a good acid test of intelligence with all the dimbulbs we see making it in those jobs.    Nah, her everyday actions speak for themself and I pray for Joe Biden to stay healthy every day because of it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.3.19  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @4.3.18    3 years ago
You put forth an example of a person who managed to passed the bar.    Largely an exercise of memory not intelligence.  

You actually think that earning a JD and then passing the bar is an exercise of memory and not intelligence.

You need to have a discussion with an attorney and learn what is involved in the bar.    There are judgment and reasoning questions that cannot simply be 'memorized'.

Ask Tacos! or G2 (both have passed the CA bar) about what is required to pass the bar.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.3.20  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3.17    3 years ago
The only conclusion is that you think that there is no chance somebody with a degree can't be an idiot despite Kamal Harris' examples. 

Amazing that you will repeatedly misrepresent what I wrote no matter what.   You cannot rebut what I actually wrote so you repeatedly toss out a bullshit strawman instead.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
4.3.21  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.20    3 years ago
Amazing that you will repeatedly misrepresent what I wrote no matter what.

Then you should really pay closer attention to what you write.  

You cannot rebut what I actually wrote so you repeatedly toss out a bullshit strawman instead.

Opinions will vary.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
4.3.22  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.19    3 years ago
You actually think that earning a JD and then passing the bar is an exercise of memory and not intelligence.
You need to have a discussion with an attorney and learn what is involved in the bar.    There are judgment and reasoning questions that cannot simply be 'memorized'.

Don’t need to.    Have three in my family, including my brother who had just completed a BS in Engineering.    He found it a breeze in comparison except for the intensity of the memorization required.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.3.23  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @4.3.22    3 years ago
Don’t need to.    

Clearly you do since you are demonstrably wrong that passing the bar requires only memory and not intelligence.

Applying the law to situations in the exam is an exercise of reasoning (intelligence) not mere memorization.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.3.25  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.24    3 years ago
Of course, we know high IQs don't necessarily mean the person has a freaking clue--as evidenced with Kamala.

She must be doing something right to get her different positions.  Maybe there is a clue in a book.

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Sparty On
Professor Guide
4.3.26  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.23    3 years ago
Clearly you do since you are demonstrably wrong that passing the bar requires only memory and not intelligence.

Clearly, as noted, I don’t.    And once again, opinions do vary.    It goes without saying that I disagree with yours.    Completely   

Applying the law to situations in the exam is an exercise of reasoning (intelligence) not mere memorization.

Every job takes reasoning.    As a Plumber Pipe fitter I had to reason the best ways to route piping through buildings.    As a Marine I had to reason the best way to deploy Marines to best handle the given situation.    As an Engineer reasoning was a huge part of the job applying principles and practice to every distinctly different job, etc, etc.

I never said lawyers didn’t have to reason only that passing the bar is in not necessarily a good judge of intellect.     That said, once again it’s doubtful we will agree on anything, so I’ll leave it at that.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.3.27  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.3.25    3 years ago

The explanation for a woman getting a JD, passing the CA bar, serving twice as AG of CA, once as senator and eventually V.P. is that she was great at giving blowjobs is an excellent example of misogyny. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
4.3.28  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.24    3 years ago
No real point quibbling over a word anyway.

Nope, especially in this case.   It always ends up in the same place.

Nowhere.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
4.3.29  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.27    3 years ago

I didn't say she did.  I said maybe the question of how she got where she was is in the book.

You might be able to get a sense of humor on a week after Christmas sale.  Or you can just stick with the name calling.  Funny how you never seem to have an issue with questionable meme's or comments when some on the left do it.  A few do it almost every article they comment on so an excuse of you don't read all articles does not cut it.

Have a nice day.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.3.30  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @4.3.26    3 years ago
I never said lawyers didn’t have to reason only that passing the bar is in not necessarily a good judge of intellect.  

You are equivocating.  You wrote:  

Sparty @4.3.18 ☞ You put forth an example of a person who managed to passed the bar.    Largely an exercise of memory not intelligence. 

Reasoning is a function of intelligence!   Having to apply one's understanding of law and its nuances (not just memorizing laws but understanding those laws, their interrelationships, their usages in context based on precedent) to situations on the exam requires intelligence.   Legal essays test both judgment and legal reasoning.

It is ridiculous to claim that earning a JD and passing the bar exam is not intelligent.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.3.31  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.3.29    3 years ago
I didn't say she did. 

So what is this, you are going to deny that you posted a meme suggesting Harris' success was based on giving good blowjobs?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
4.3.33  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.31    3 years ago

It is a meme dude (or dudette). It is no surprise that some that are defending Kamala like she is related to them won't think it is funny.  They are welcome to that opinion. 

Funny how you never seem to have an issue with questionable meme's or comments when some on the left do it.  A few do it almost every article they comment on so an excuse of you don't read all articles does not cut it.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
4.3.34  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.30    3 years ago
You are equivocating.  You wrote:  

No I am not.   Just one more of your opinions that I disagree with

Sparty @4.3.18 ☞ You put forth an example of a person who managed to passed the bar.    Largely an exercise of memory not intelligence.

I stand by that comment.   100% 

It is ridiculous to claim that earning a JD and passing the bar exam is not intelligent

You would be right if I had said that but since I did not, now you are only trying to put words in my mouth.    Look no further than my comment you quoted above for proof of that.

Pretty sad …..

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
4.3.35  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.32    3 years ago

I am done, promise

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.3.37  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.36    3 years ago

[No Trump] [means] [no Trump!]

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.3.38  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.37    3 years ago

My bad. I thought you were interested in defenses of the indefensible. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.3.40  CB  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.23    3 years ago

It gets even more interesting (and clarifying) when it is realized and accepted that to be a constitutionally approved vice-president you don't even need a higher-learning degree of any kind (though it would be helpful overall). 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
4.3.42  Sparty On  replied to  CB @4.3.40    3 years ago

Potato …. Potatoe ….

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.3.43  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.3.10    3 years ago

Alfred E. Neuman should run for president again. Could probably do a better job than Biden or Trump./sarc

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
4.3.45  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.36    3 years ago

It is rather bizarre 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
4.3.46  Sparty On  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.3.43    3 years ago

Pat Paulsen for President

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.3.47  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sparty On @4.3.46    3 years ago

That too.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
4.3.48  arkpdx  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.39    3 years ago

But not surprising 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
4.3.49  arkpdx  replied to  Sparty On @4.3.46    3 years ago

I think I preferred Walter. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.3.50  CB  replied to  Sparty On @4.3.42    3 years ago

**Sputter.****

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5  JohnRussell    3 years ago
“You know, every election cycle we talk about this is the most election of our lifetime. Lawrence, this one is,” Harris  said .

If you look at the video it is plain as day that Harris simply left out the word "important" after the word "most".  It is a trip of the tongue. Happens all the time to various people , even politicians.  Doesnt have a damn thing to do with intelligence.  Yet here we have the right wingers creaming themselves over a ridiculous "gotcha" attempt. 

There is a conservative candidate this year that does this sort of thing virtually every time he speaks to a crowd. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
6  Drinker of the Wry    3 years ago

The best thing about Kamala, is that she doesn’t embarrass Joe by having better ratings than he has.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
6.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6    3 years ago

That was one of the boxes she had to check although I read last week she actually scored higher than Joe on a poll

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Senior Silent
7  afrayedknot    3 years ago

How nice it would be, if only for today of all days, could everyone step off, count your blessings, and come back tomorrow to rehash whatever…

…so Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! Peace!!!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.1  Sparty On  replied to  afrayedknot @7    3 years ago

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TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @7.1    3 years ago
Too many people, with too much venom to discharge.

Seems that way:

SpartyOn @ 8 — Quayle is a genius compared to Kamala. 
 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.1    3 years ago
Seems that way:
SpartyOn @ 8 — Quayle is a genius compared to Kamala. 

Defending the indefensible Kamala. It is always that way for some.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @7.1.2    3 years ago

You totally missed the point.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
7.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.3    3 years ago

No he didn’t.    

The venom I’m referring is the endless railing on Trump, anyone who has the temerity not to rail on Trump or conservatives in general.    Anyone who reads NTers for more than a second can see it.    And can recognize who I’m talking about.    Look no further than the front page nearly every day of the week.

There are also those here who think they mask it with semi-clever attempts to debate the logic of it,   Which there it little.    It’s red ass.   Plain and simple.   Red ass that’s accelerated since November of 2016.

So I called out the hypocrisy “once” of those who hammered on Quayle for simply misspelling a word vs giving Harris a free pass for her consistent public babble rap.    The reality of it bites.    I can only imagine how bad for those that support her.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @7.1.4    3 years ago
SpartyOn @ 7.1 — Too many people, with too much venom to discharge.
SpartyOn @ 8 — Quayle is a genius compared to Kamala. 
 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
7.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.5    3 years ago

No he didn’t.    

The venom I’m referring is the endless railing on Trump, anyone who has the temerity not to rail on Trump or conservatives in general.    Anyone who reads NTers for more than a second can see it.    And can recognize who I’m talking about.    Look no further than the front page nearly every day of the week.

There are also those here who think they mask it with semi-clever attempts to debate the logic of it,   Which there it little.    It’s red ass.   Plain and simple.   Red ass that’s accelerated since November of 2016.

So I called out the hypocrisy “once” of those who hammered on Quayle for simply misspelling a word vs giving Harris a free pass for her consistent public babble rap.    The reality of it bites.    I can only imagine how bad for those that support her.
 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7.1.7  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.3    3 years ago

No, I didn't.

I only need to look at your response and who you choose to respond to.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
7.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  afrayedknot @7    3 years ago

Exactly, Kamala said : "This Holiday, my wish for you and your family is that you take a few moments of quiet reflection and find that stillness that's at the center of the Holiday story. May you find peace in these silent nights. And warmth from those surrounding you. I hope you enjoy your Holiday tree.”

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.2    3 years ago
I hope you enjoy your Holiday tree.”

BFD

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
7.2.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @7.2.3    3 years ago

Harris: ‘It’s time for us to do what we have been doing, and that time is every day'

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
7.2.6  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.2.4    3 years ago

Again, use your words to explain to the group how Harris' words above negatively impacted your life or outlook!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
7.2.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @7.2.6    3 years ago

I have no idea what  you are talking about.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
7.2.8  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.2.7    3 years ago

But you are here all the same. :) 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
7.2.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @7.2.8    3 years ago

Yes I am. jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
8  Sparty On    3 years ago

Quayle is a genius compared to Kamala. 

Remember how hard the left hammered on him for the potato incident and yet Kamala is sharper?

Hilarious!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9  JohnRussell    3 years ago

[delete]

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
9.1  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @9    3 years ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
9.2  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @9    3 years ago

The face the gop shows ^ is electoral poison.

Like overhearing a locker room conversation from a geriatric men's club at some all white seniors retirement center out in the suburbs. Like old throwbacks having their last hurrahs!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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9.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @9    3 years ago

Can someone repost the crucifixion of Santa Claus. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @9.3    3 years ago

do you think some of the idiotic comments made on this article are good for NT ? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
9.3.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    3 years ago

Have you considered starting JRNT where you could allow only what you thought was good for it?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
9.3.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    3 years ago

I think little is good on NT except for amusement.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.3.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @9.3.2    3 years ago

Reading stupid comments must appeal to you. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
9.3.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.4    3 years ago

One man's stupid is another man's brilliant.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.3.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @9.3.6    3 years ago

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Gazoo
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9.3.9  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    3 years ago

“do you think some of the idiotic comments made on this article are good for NT ?”

Lmmfao, oh the irony in that statement.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.3.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @9.3.9    3 years ago

[✘]

 
 
 
Ronin2
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9.4  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @9    3 years ago

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Right Down the Center
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11  Right Down the Center    3 years ago

Epitome of democrat intelligence:

“The Governor and I and we were all doing a tour of the library here and, um, talking about the significance of the passage of time. Right. The significance of the passage of time. So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to lay these wires, what we need to do to create these jobs. And there is such great significance to the passage of time. When we think about a day in the life of our children and what that means to the future of our nation, depending on whether or not they have the resources they need to achieve their God given talent."

 
 

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